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BlitzingDog
04-12-2005, 08:17 AM
Why do some people want this guy in the 3rd round? When we can get a guy just a bit less impressive in the late rounds of the draft or undrafted. This guy is good, but heck he wasn't even as good as Shane Lechler. He is my top P but 3rd round worthy? I thought we learned after Nick Harris, look at the Packers. B.J. Sander they took in the 3rd round last year and he was a dud. Roudn 5 is the highest a punter should go!
watermock
04-12-2005, 08:19 AM
He's not sponge worthy.
TheDave
04-12-2005, 08:21 AM
Hilarious!
SpringStein
04-12-2005, 08:28 AM
Why do some people want this guy in the 3rd round? When we can get a guy just a bit less impressive in the late rounds of the draft or undrafted. This guy is good, but heck he wasn't even as good as Shane Lechler. He is my top P but 3rd round worthy? I thought we learned after Nick Harris, look at the Packers. B.J. Sander they took in the 3rd round last year and he was a dud. Roudn 5 is the highest a punter should go!
Couldn't agree more!
jebures
04-12-2005, 12:24 PM
Why do some people want this guy in the 3rd round? When we can get a guy just a bit less impressive in the late rounds of the draft or undrafted. This guy is good, but heck he wasn't even as good as Shane Lechler. He is my top P but 3rd round worthy? I thought we learned after Nick Harris, look at the Packers. B.J. Sander they took in the 3rd round last year and he was a dud. Roudn 5 is the highest a punter should go!
Amen
Beantown Bronco
04-12-2005, 12:41 PM
Cole Farden has a stronger leg, can dominate kickoffs (especially in Denver), and can most likely be had in the late 5th or 6th.....if he's even drafted. I would rather spend one of the late 3rds on anything else at this point.
Ballhawk
04-12-2005, 01:53 PM
Cole Farden has a stronger leg, can dominate kickoffs (especially in Denver), and can most likely be had in the late 5th or 6th.....if he's even drafted. I would rather spend one of the late 3rds on anything else at this point.
And John Daly can hit the ball further than Woods...
Im not saying we should use a third on Colquitt, but great punters are based more on hang time and spot punting (hitting the sidelines, inside the 20s and such).
When you have a great D then great punting can net you another 3-6 points just based on field position.
delany
04-12-2005, 02:22 PM
If I was Denver I would focus on a guy that gets rid of the ball quickly. Harris was to SLOOOOWWW.
One of the critiques of Colquitt is that he also needs to speed up his motion....He has had some kicks blocked that were supposedly due to being slow.
Getting the ball out safely is more important to me than an extra 5 net yards of distance.
I really could care less what round he is drafted in...just find a punter that will make the final roster.
Beantown Bronco
04-12-2005, 02:31 PM
And John Daly can hit the ball further than Woods...
Im not saying we should use a third on Colquitt, but great punters are based more on hang time and spot punting (hitting the sidelines, inside the 20s and such).
When you have a great D then great punting can net you another 3-6 points just based on field position.
I could care less about directional punting. Where has this gotten us the past few years when all we put out there are directional punters? Punt and kick off every one through the endzone for all I care. Why try to get greedy and cute with cornering kicks, which more often than not are shanked out of bounds after 30 yards? A good defense like the Broncos have had the last few years should prevent 80 yard drives and net us points right off the bat.
IMO - The reason the Broncos punting has been poor is because the last few punters have all been "directional" kickers and not pure power and hangtime kickers. Hence, when the Broncos get stopped in their own end, the opposing team often starts with great field position. A stronger leg alone can eliminate much of this. I'm sick of seeing Bronco punts get fair caught at midfield. Bring on a guy like Farden!
Arkie
04-12-2005, 02:52 PM
Dustin Colquitt is clutch, probably Tennessee's MVP. Colquitt has the best hang-time, but he needs to improve his speed.
Cole Farden needs to work on his directional and not outkick the coverage team so much...
Both of them have excellent leg strength.
Kaylore
04-12-2005, 04:16 PM
I'd rather have Matt Payne.
DBroncos4life
04-12-2005, 04:19 PM
I almost everyones eyes Colguitt is HANDS down the best punter in the draft. Why settle for another UDF like we always do?
TheDave
04-12-2005, 04:27 PM
Having just looked at Nick Harris's stats (he's with detroit now) he averages about 41 yrds per last season and has yet to have one blocked... So i think the needs to hurry up problem is fixable. With that in mind i would waste a 3rd on this Kid in a heart beat.
Strengths: A master at pinning opponents inside the twenty...Gets excellent hang time...Very strong leg...Can pooch punt or kick the ball for distance...Good size and solid athletic ability for the position...Prolific college player.
Weaknesses: A little slow and may need to speed up his motion once in the pros...Can be a little more consistent...Has had a couple of punts blocked.
Notes: A weapon in the battle for field position...One of the best punters to come along in a while and a legitimate first day prospect...Father and brother were also punters for the Vols.
delany
04-12-2005, 04:43 PM
Having just looked at Nick Harris's stats (he's with detroit now) he averages about 41 yrds per last season and has yet to have one blocked... So i think the needs to hurry up problem is fixable. With that in mind i would waste a 3rd on this Kid in a heart beat.
Strengths: A master at pinning opponents inside the twenty...Gets excellent hang time...Very strong leg...Can pooch punt or kick the ball for distance...Good size and solid athletic ability for the position...Prolific college player.
Weaknesses: A little slow and may need to speed up his motion once in the pros...Can be a little more consistent...Has had a couple of punts blocked.
Notes: A weapon in the battle for field position...One of the best punters to come along in a while and a legitimate first day prospect...Father and brother were also punters for the Vols.
The problem is...if he doesn't win the job in training camp..there is no way that Denver will carry two punters into the season. so unless he has a mysterious injury...it will be a wasted pick.
There is no margin for error and no time to develop like other positions.
If he is drafted in the late 3rd...you might have to live with him being a little slow...even if it means having a couple blocked (which knowing Denver's luck the last couple of years, will be in the last seconds of a game turning play)...
TheDave
04-12-2005, 04:46 PM
The problem is...if he doesn't win the job in training camp..there is no way that Denver will carry two punters into the season. so unless he has a mysterious injury...it will be a wasted pick.
There is no margin for error and no time to develop like other positions.
If he is drafted in the late 3rd...you might have to live with him being a little slow...even if it means having a couple blocked (which knowing Denver's luck the last couple of years, will be in the last seconds of a game turning play)...
I completely understand your reasoning, but Nick, who everyone said was slow has never had a blocked punt. So i think this guy can learn quick enough... and if a mystery injuring is needed i have no problem hiding out by his car with a 2X4...:)
delany
04-12-2005, 04:56 PM
I completely understand your reasoning, but Nick, who everyone said was slow has never had a blocked punt. So i think this guy can learn quick enough... and if a mystery injuring is needed i have no problem hiding out by his car with a 2X4...:)
Excellent! I assume that you with a piece of wood is all part of the Bronco's 'Plan'.
For what it is worth...I would love to see a decent punter for a change and he IS the best punter in this draft.
Ray Finkle
04-12-2005, 06:50 PM
He will be gone in the second....some team will poop the bed and pick him early...
Billy Clyde Puckett
04-12-2005, 08:10 PM
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IMO - The reason the Broncos punting has been poor is because the last few punters have all been "directional" kickers and not pure power and hangtime kickers. Hence, when the Broncos get stopped in their own end, the opposing team often starts with great field position. A stronger leg alone can eliminate much of this. I'm sick of seeing Bronco punts get fair caught at midfield. Bring on a guy like Farden![/QUOTE]
Huh????? None of the guys Denver has used in recent years have been a directional punter. When was the last time we saw one kicked out of bounds inside the 20 yard line except by accident. I agree they have not had a decent punter for years and it is a need, but I don't think it is worth a third round pick with all of the other needs they have.
Kiper has the Broncs taking Colquitt in the 6th round which is Ok, but I would still be looking for depth on the OL with that pick.
Beantown Bronco
04-13-2005, 05:26 AM
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Huh????? None of the guys Denver has used in recent years have been a directional punter. When was the last time we saw one kicked out of bounds inside the 20 yard line except by accident. I agree they have not had a decent punter for years and it is a need, but I don't think it is worth a third round pick with all of the other needs they have.
Kiper has the Broncs taking Colquitt in the 6th round which is Ok, but I would still be looking for depth on the OL with that pick.
I clearly remember every article talking about Micah Knorr and Baker when they were first signed, mentioned them being directional kickers and constantly mentioning the number of punts they dropped inside the 20 (just count how many times it's mentioned inside Baker's bio on the team site). Just because they haven't lived up to it in Denver doesn't mean that wasn't the reason they were brought in.
Kiper is on crack if he thinks Colquitt will be available in the 6th round. He won't make it through the third. Regardless, I still think the third round is way too early to take a punter when you can get the second or third best punter in the country (whose net punting and kickoff average is probably going to be within a yard or so of the best) in the 6th round or later.
IbleedORANGEandBLUE
04-13-2005, 09:30 PM
colquitt is hands down the best punter in the draft...so to say you would "rather" have someone else is stupid. If we took the chance and spent a 3rd round pick on him...provided he lasts that long...he would shore up a very weak punting game
i personally feel that someone who can help in the game of field position, and keep your defense in good situations against moss and co., priest holmes, LT, etc....is worth a 3rd round pick
you would be hard pressed to find someone else that late in round 3 who could make such an immediate difference
Beantown Bronco
04-14-2005, 07:15 AM
colquitt is hands down the best punter in the draft...so to say you would "rather" have someone else is stupid. If we took the chance and spent a 3rd round pick on him...provided he lasts that long...he would shore up a very weak punting game
I don't think anyone is saying they would rather draft Payne or Farden, all things being equal. What is being said is, why bother spending a third round pick on an A graded punter when you can spend a sixth round pick or later on an A- graded punter....AND use that 3rd round pick on a guy who can fill another need. It's all about value. IMO - a 3rd rounder is just too steep a price to pay for maybe two or three net yards of difference per punt (which is all there was from the top tier to the middle of the pack punters last year)...
fyi - Nick Harris was supposedly an even better prospect than Colquitt coming out of college and if you look at his numbers in the pros, he is well below average in both net and gross yards per punt.
You could make an arguement that Payne's ability to kick as well as punt makes him more valuable than Colquitt, since he's a backup K on your roster without using up another spot.
Taking a P with one of our 3rd rounders, with all the high potential talent that should still be available, isn't something I'm real crazy about. Vince Jackson over Colquitt any day, thanks.
IbleedORANGEandBLUE
04-14-2005, 03:34 PM
good call....except that vincent jackson will not last til the end of the third round....good try though.
with colquitt the very worst you would get is mediocrity, which is still ten times better than what we have now, out of a third round pick, there is virtually no risk involved, only reward.
i'm not saying i want him no matter what...but i think we should think very seriously about our kicking situation...and if no one better is available, to go for it.
having a dominant punter is like having a twelve defensive player in a way
Kaylore
04-14-2005, 04:58 PM
Matt Payne is a better fit. He could back up Elam, and is more athletic. Not as accurate, but a better fit for our system.
sgbfan
04-15-2005, 06:49 PM
Matt Payne is a better fit. He could back up Elam, and is more athletic. Not as accurate, but a better fit for our system.
Maybe its just that I am biased towoard BYU, but Matt Payne is a good kicker. He has a heck of a leg. plus he had 3 or 4 hits this last year where he just layed the guy out. One of them was on Reggie Bush against USC. It was awesome.
DBroncos4life
04-15-2005, 07:00 PM
He is the first punter I ever wanted Denver to draft so I guess that means I kind of like him.
SpringStein
04-17-2005, 02:51 PM
http://nfl.com/draft/analysis/expert/brandt/st
Brandt's rankings of ST players. Punters:
1. Reggie Hodges, Ball State
2. Dustin Colquitt, TN
3. Adam Anderson, W. Michigan
4. Cole Farden, Okie State
5. Matt Payne, BYU
BroncoInferno
04-18-2005, 03:41 PM
Matt Payne is a better fit. He could back up Elam, and is more athletic. Not as accurate, but a better fit for our system.
Yep, get Payne in the 6th or 7th. I like Elam as a FG kicker, but his weakness on kickoffs is really a liability. There just aren't many quality punters who can also kickoff well. This forces us to bring in marginal punters like Knorr and Baker simply because they can kickoff. I don't believe Colquitt kickoffs, so if we picked him it would force us to use a roster spot on a specialist. Payne can do both very well, plus we have have a legit emergency kicker in the event that Elam pulls a hammy or something. Also, if he gets beaten out, it's not as bad since your typical 6th or 7th rounder is cut from the final roster more often than not anyway.
Beantown Bronco
04-19-2005, 02:04 PM
http://nfl.com/draft/analysis/expert/brandt/st
Brandt's rankings of ST players. Punters:
1. Reggie Hodges, Ball State
2. Dustin Colquitt, TN
3. Adam Anderson, W. Michigan
4. Cole Farden, Okie State
5. Matt Payne, BYU
I'm still on board for Farden. Look at the number of touchbacks on kickoffs! And his punting average is the same as Colquitt's. Just imagine what he could do at Mile High...
IbleedORANGEandBLUE
04-21-2005, 08:51 PM
i dont care who we draft, as long as we get somebody...
i dont know why we wasted the money on the two ****ty punters we have "competing" for the job now...they both suck...waste of money, allbeit a small about...it all counts
sgbfan
04-21-2005, 10:12 PM
I really like Matt Payne. he has a strong leg and can make long kicks both punting and field goals. He did miss a few big kicks this year, but he did have a streak where he made 13 straight from over 40 yards, including a 53yd game winner against ND. He was a little out of control last year, a few kick offs out of bounds, missed field goals, over-punting the football. But I believe that was from a lack of discipline in the BYU system the last few years. He does have a lot of heart though. He could hit as well as anybody else on BYU's team last year when nobody else could tackle the returner. he also had a 2 punts around 80yds in one game I saw last year. He also might be the only kicker to add a TD pass to his resume as well.
anthonypacino
04-21-2005, 10:18 PM
Mike Nuguet is the best kicker in the draft and probably the best special teamer ou there right now. I am a huge OSU fan and I have watched that kid to some clutch things in many games.
Finger Roll
04-21-2005, 10:31 PM
I would love to use one of our 3rd round picks on the best punter. most of our 3rd round picks the last 10 years have been horrible so why not get a player that can contribute. It's time Shanahan takes punters seriously. I'm sick of these shank artests they bring in every year.
Kaylore
04-21-2005, 10:36 PM
Maybe its just that I am biased towoard BYU, but Matt Payne is a good kicker. He has a heck of a leg. plus he had 3 or 4 hits this last year where he just layed the guy out. One of them was on Reggie Bush against USC. It was awesome.
In the game against Boise St. They're return guy took two hits from him that layed him out. I don't know if you remember, but on the third return, he did a QB slide, b/c he was affraid to get nailed again. The guy is a great athlete, and more likely to available for us than Colquitt.
Goobzilla
04-21-2005, 10:36 PM
I still have Nick Harris nightmares everytime we talk about drafting a punter, but I guess we have to bite the bullet sooner or later. We can't keep sticking a band-aid on our punting & kickoffs. Let's go get a good one if we have an opportunity to do it with one of these 3rds.
Kaylore
04-21-2005, 10:43 PM
I still have Nick Harris nightmares everytime we talk about drafting a punter, but I guess we have to bite the bullet sooner or later. We can't keep sticking a band-aid on our punting & kickoffs. Let's go get a good one if we have an opportunity to do it with one of these 3rds.
You're right, because I have nightmares right now everytime someone says "Broncos Special Teams." Yeah our special teams are very special. (http://www.specialolympicsco.org/)
sgbfan
04-22-2005, 12:11 AM
In the game against Boise St. They're return guy took two hits from him that layed him out. I don't know if you remember, but on the third return, he did a QB slide, b/c he was affraid to get nailed again. The guy is a great athlete, and more likely to available for us than Colquitt.
He sure did lay the guy out though. I think he got about 10-15 reps in his pro day. He weighs about 240 I
sgbfan
04-22-2005, 12:14 AM
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Payne (6-3 7/8, 224) had a 31½-inch vertical jump and a 9-foot-4½ broad jump. Last season, Payne was a Lou Groza and Ray Guy Award semifinalist, and was named a first-team AFCA All-American. He holds an NCAA record with 14 consecutive field goals made from the 40- to 49-yard range.
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Heres what he had from his pro day.
longtimer
04-22-2005, 09:35 AM
I'd rather have Matt Payne.
AMEN!!
And he like to tackle people and he can do KOs to. he big enough not to be a kiability on STs.
longtimer
04-22-2005, 09:52 AM
Let's compare the two:
Matt Payne
Official Bio College: B.Y.U. Height: 6-4
Position: Punter Weight: 229
Class: Senior 40-Yard: 4.76
SCOUTING REPORT
Strengths: Versatile and has kicked and punted during his days in Provo...Has very good leg strength...Mature individual...Can punt for distance or pin the opponent inside the twenty...Good size and athletic ability...Can also kickoff.
Weaknesses: Only average as a field goal kicker...Not as accurate as you would like...Didn't concentrate on just one position in college.
Notes: Statistically one of the best punters in the country...Will probably get drafted late and has a good chance of making an NFL team.
Dustin Colquitt
Official Bio College: Tennessee Height: 6-23/8
Position: Punter Weight: 211
Class: Senior 40-Yard: 4.70
SCOUTING REPORT
Strengths: A master at pinning opponents inside the twenty...Gets excellent hang time...Very strong leg...Can pooch punt or kick the ball for distance...Good size and solid athletic ability for the position...Prolific college player.
Weaknesses: A little slow and may need to speed up his motion once in the pros...Can be a little more consistent...Has had a couple of punts blocked.
Notes: A weapon in the battle for field position...One of the best punters to come along in a while and a legitimate first day prospect...Father and brother were also punters for the Vols.
After comparing the two Payne win in a land slide!!! He can do more things (punt,FG and KOs) and there does not seem to much difference between there punting. Payne might have a better upside since he did not foccus on just punting in college.
Daft payne in the 6th and get someone who can contribute at a other position in the 3rd.
Billy Clyde Puckett
04-22-2005, 11:02 AM
Let's compare the two:
Matt Payne
Official Bio College: B.Y.U. Height: 6-4
Position: Punter Weight: 229
Class: Senior 40-Yard: 4.76
SCOUTING REPORT
Strengths: Versatile and has kicked and punted during his days in Provo...Has very good leg strength...Mature individual...Can punt for distance or pin the opponent inside the twenty...Good size and athletic ability...Can also kickoff.
Weaknesses: Only average as a field goal kicker...Not as accurate as you would like...Didn't concentrate on just one position in college.
Notes: Statistically one of the best punters in the country...Will probably get drafted late and has a good chance of making an NFL team.
Dustin Colquitt
Official Bio College: Tennessee Height: 6-23/8
Position: Punter Weight: 211
Class: Senior 40-Yard: 4.70
SCOUTING REPORT
Strengths: A master at pinning opponents inside the twenty...Gets excellent hang time...Very strong leg...Can pooch punt or kick the ball for distance...Good size and solid athletic ability for the position...Prolific college player.
Weaknesses: A little slow and may need to speed up his motion once in the pros...Can be a little more consistent...Has had a couple of punts blocked.
Notes: A weapon in the battle for field position...One of the best punters to come along in a while and a legitimate first day prospect...Father and brother were also punters for the Vols.
After comparing the two Payne win in a land slide!!! He can do more things (punt,FG and KOs) and there does not seem to much difference between there punting. Payne might have a better upside since he did not foccus on just punting in college.
Daft payne in the 6th and get someone who can contribute at a other position in the 3rd.
Agree. Can't waste a 3rd round choice on the most risky position in the draft. Broncs do need punter but Denver punting will be much better as the coverage is improved. I believe the Broncs were 28th in punt coverage last year. Kick it 45 and cover and you get a net of 40 which is pretty good.
labronco
04-22-2005, 04:14 PM
we should send a scout out to soccer/rugby countries for a kicker/punter. then place him on a practice squad/nfl europe, and groom him for the year after. a novel idea.
bananasplit_13
05-14-2005, 12:43 PM
we should send a scout out to soccer/rugby countries for a kicker/punter. then place him on a practice squad/nfl europe, and groom him for the year after. a novel idea.
Forget that, we should go to Australia and recruit Aussie Rules Football players - they have to be able to kick accurately, run a LOT (a few of the positions run the equivalent of a marathon every game), tackle and kick for power. That's the place to go.
Kaylore
05-26-2005, 11:49 AM
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Mr. Trout
06-02-2005, 11:20 PM
Maybe one of our boys on defense will have the chance to give Colquitt a good welcome to the NFL.