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PatsWin2002
04-12-2005, 07:54 AM
A decent piece from the Miami Herald:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/11371399.htm
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Posted on Tue, Apr. 12, 2005

NFL DRAFT | LINEBACKERS

'Tweeners' are now a commodity

With the return of the 3-4 defense, athletes who play defensive end and linebacker -- such as Maryland's Shawne Merriman -- are now coveted.

BY ARMANDO SALGUERO
asalguero@herald.com

Shawne Merriman is in limbo now.

For the next couple of weeks, before he is selected in the first round of the NFL draft, Merriman can say he is neither a defensive end nor a linebacker, not big enough to consistently collide with 330-pound blockers, not really fleet enough to keep pace with running backs.

And that's a good thing.

Players such as Merriman, who weighs 272 and runs the 40-yard dash in 4.61 seconds, were once derided as ''tweeners,'' because in choosing to play them at defensive end or outside linebacker, teams decided they fell somewhere in between.

Players that fell in between often fell through the cracks.

''Some people find that maybe a tweener is not so good, but from what I've seen so far, I find being a tweener is an excellent thing these days,'' Merriman said. ``Every team is trying to convert to a 3-4 [defense]. But I can also play a 4-3. So whatever they need me to play I'll be able to fill those shoes.''

THROWBACK POSITION

The vogue return of the 3-4 defense, the NFL's answer to bell-bottoms, is about to make players such as Merriman a lot of money.

Tweeners such as Iowa State's Tyson Smith, FSU's Eric Moore, Southern Utah's Marques Harris and Troy's Demarcus Ware have found a home in limbo.

''When you talk about players like that, like a Shawne Merriman, he really becomes interesting because he's a versatile guy,'' Buffalo Bills president and general manager Tom Donahoe said. ``And depending on the defense you play, some people will see him as a 4-3 end and some will see him as a 3-4 outside linebacker. But it does put a premium on those types of players.''

A tweener's good-but-not-great bulk and quick-but-not-blazing speed offer exactly what 3-4 teams need to fill that outside linebacker role where players sometimes drop in coverage and sometimes rush the passer.

''I think there is definitely a slot that people would categorize 3-4 outside linebackers because it is a little bit different position in terms of, you would like to have bigger guys,'' Dolphins coach Nick Saban said. ``Sometimes you give up a little bit of space play and the athleticism for a good rusher. So that does fit a category of guys who really may not be a [4-3] defensive end and really may not be truly a 4-3 linebacker.''

Approximately a dozen teams -- including the Dolphins -- plan to deploy into a 3-4 alignment at least some of the time next season. Such a boon of three-linemen, four-linebacker alignments increases the need for pass-rushing linebackers to enter the league.

That need isn't coming at such a great time, because only two major colleges -- Virginia and Maryland, where Merriman played -- use the 3-4 defense regularly. That creates something of a problem.

Teams are taking college defensive ends and turning them into linebackers. And, they're adapting college linebackers into undersized NFL pass-rushers.

''All those outside linebackers are projections,'' Houston Texans general manager Charley Casserly said. ``Those projections are not easy to get right.''

Can you say draft-day mistakes?

PLAYERS UNCERTAIN

The truth is players themselves sometimes don't have a handle on whether they should be defensive ends, linebackers or what.

''I just want to be in the scheme that uses all of my physical talents,'' Merriman said. ``The best way to help the team would be for me to use the height and the speed and the strength that I have to the benefit of the whole defense.''

Exactly what position would that be from?

''I think I can play an outside linebacker, middle linebacker, defensive end, whatever they need me to play, I can play it,'' Merriman said. ``It all depends on what [teams] project me as and what they need.

``Whatever it is, I can do it.''

watermock
04-12-2005, 08:10 AM
Oh shush! We are sick and tired of watching that team turn shiat into shinola.

Billichick will probably trot out Brushi with a limp and slurred speech and still win another Lombardi. Enough I say!

Hotrod
04-12-2005, 08:12 AM
Oh shush! We are sick and tired of watching that team turn shiat into shinola.

LOL

David Pollack ;D

Ya I know its a pipedream now.

watermock
04-12-2005, 08:17 AM
I'm still waiting for Denver to pick Ware@25 and stick him in a 4-3.

bloodsunday
04-12-2005, 08:21 AM
I'm still waiting for Denver to pick Ware@25 and stick him in a 4-3.
How about Matt Jones as a rush end? ugh!~

PatsWin2002
04-12-2005, 08:29 AM
Oh shush! We are sick and tired of watching that team turn shiat into shinola.

Billichick will probably trot out Brushi with a limp and slurred speech and still win another Lombardi. Enough I say!

Ha!

You can't polish a turd.....but sometimes the good ones are found buried in the manure pile.

Hotrod
04-12-2005, 08:33 AM
Cronell or whatever his name is did get alot of credit for finding the turds in the ruff per se ;D

Does it bother anyone else the same person just unloaded the entire Browns dline ??? Lets hope he was a product of the system not the system himself.

watermock
04-12-2005, 08:35 AM
Denver is hoping so, but we might be digging in the wrong place...

"They are digging in the wrong place!!"~ Shamu and Indiana Jones

Mile High Shack
04-12-2005, 08:40 AM
How about Matt Jones as a rush end? ugh!~

we could get Turley from the saints for that :)

bloodsunday
04-12-2005, 08:42 AM
Does it bother anyone else the same person just unloaded the entire Browns dline ??? Lets hope he was a product of the system not the system himself.
Well this is a case by case basis. Not all of these moves were motivated by the fact that these guys cannot play. For example, they wanted to keep C Brown, but didn't want to pay him the salary he was on the books for. In fact, Warren is the only guy he really "shipped out" for poor play and character. Ekuban and Meyers are guys he would have kept not for the fact that he wanted Reuben. That's not to say that he considers them playmakers, but their not garbage either.

I also think that Crennel, as a defensive mind, wants to have "his guys". Just like an offensive minded coach always brings in a new QB, even if the one in place is pretty good. And, Savage is known as a master draft guru and probably doesn't want the failures of the past hanging around.

Nonetheless, the point is the same. Cleveland was not high on them and now we're supposed to believe that their the answer.

PatsWin2002
04-12-2005, 08:51 AM
Denver is hoping so, but we might be digging in the wrong place...

"They are digging in the wrong place!!"~ Shamu and Indiana Jones

"Jake. Why did it have to be Jake?" .....

Oops! I meant "Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes?"

watermock
04-12-2005, 09:03 AM
"Jake. Why did it have to be Jake?" .....

Oops! I meant "Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes?"

"Who knows Mr. Brown...In a Thousand Years...even YOU may be worth SOMETHING..."

jonny1
04-12-2005, 10:30 AM
Nonetheless, the point is the same. Cleveland was not high on them and now we're supposed to believe that their the answer.

One thing is that they are not bringing in one guy to be the answer, they've brought in 4 guys to compete with the guys that started for the #5 defense last year. The best 4 will start, and I imagine they will have quite a rotation going on, to keep guys like Trevor fresher for the end of games and the season.

Now if they were bringing in those 4 guys from the Browns and expecting them to be the starting DL, then you've got something to b!tch about.