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alkemical
04-06-2005, 06:14 AM
31 Mar 05

REMEMBER, DON”T KILL THE MESSENGER
You know the old saying, “no news is good news”, well… that was the case as far as the recording process was going for the new Tool CD, but now things may have changed a bit. Yesterday, when I went to the studio to give Maynard a bottle of wine (a 1992 Maya) for winning the bet that I had with him involving his new film “Sleeping Dogs Lie” (I lost by default, not being able to attend the Sedona screening), not only wasn’t Maynard there, but, in what seems to be a case of enantiodromia (something becoming its opposite) if ever there was one (!), I was told the reason why he wasn’t there. I wish this post was dated April 1, but, unfortunately, it isn’t. Like a doctor giving a patient a straight, honest answer to a medical diagnosis, without sugar-coating the truth, here’s exactly what I was told: “Maynard has found Jesus.” This will come as a complete shock to most (but not all) of you, as it did to me. In fact, it just seemed like another MJK prank until I talked to the one person who I believe would know if all this was legit or not. After nearly an hour on the phone with this person, the answer I received was that Maynard has indeed “found Jesus” and that, for this reason, he’s abandoned the project for the time being, if not entirely. I don’t know what the f**k is in the water these days, but hopefully a black jelly belly will turn up in that golden bowl… that’s all I can think to say at this point. Before leaving the studio, I watched as Danny made arrangements to go play some golf, while Adam and Justin kept working on a particular song. So, in case you missed it (those who don’t read the whole post), here’s today's news: Maynard has found Jesus…



From www.toolband.com

Mile High Shack
04-06-2005, 06:21 AM
why is that wrong?

I have "found Jesus" and I still rock out (obviously said tongue in cheek)

what I mean is, I still listen to all of it

Although I can see having a problem with signing hooker with a penis........

lol

alkemical
04-06-2005, 06:53 AM
I never said it was wrong MHS - sheesh- i just found the info and posted it -

But i guess it would also mean the end to - all of opiate material as well -

Mile High Shack
04-06-2005, 07:02 AM
I never said it was wrong MHS - sheesh- i just found the info and posted it -

But i guess it would also mean the end to - all of opiate material as well -

the why is that wrong wasn't at you..sorry

it was at the author of the article.........

yeah I can't see tool continuing on...same thing happend to the korn guitar player

alkemical
04-06-2005, 07:28 AM
the why is that wrong wasn't at you..sorry

it was at the author of the article.........

yeah I can't see tool continuing on...same thing happend to the korn guitar player


The author of the article is actually someone on tool's payroll - Blair is the person who wrote this -

The thing that's so suprising is that if you read alot on their website- then you'd know that it is a bit suprising...

Pezman
04-06-2005, 07:41 AM
Hey, if this is a "jumping the shark" moment, then I will be upset, but until it affects his music in a negative way, its all good. Sounds like Maynard is discovering more about himself.

Now, onto more important stuff........ WHY THE F*** is Maynard finding Jeebus and not in the studio recording the next Perfect Circle or Tool album?

Slacker

Old Dude
04-06-2005, 08:13 AM
See, I'm so out of it that I saw this thread and thought that "Maynard" was Bob Denver who played beatnik Maynard G. Krebbs (the G. stands for Walter) on "The Many Loves Of Dobie Gillis."

alkemical
04-06-2005, 08:15 AM
Hey, if this is a "jumping the shark" moment, then I will be upset, but until it affects his music in a negative way, its all good. Sounds like Maynard is discovering more about himself.

Now, onto more important stuff........ WHY THE F*** is Maynard finding Jeebus and not in the studio recording the next Perfect Circle or Tool album?

Slacker


who knows, maybe danny is busy with the next green jello album (yep, that was him drummin little pig, little pig let me in)

Taco John
04-06-2005, 11:47 AM
With thanks to Endelt at Chiefs planet:


From the ToolBand.com website:

31 Mar 05
REMEMBER, DON”T KILL THE MESSENGER

You know the old saying, “no news is good news”, well… that was the case as far as the recording process was going for the new Tool CD, but now things may have changed a bit. Yesterday, when I went to the studio to give Maynard a bottle of wine (a 1992 Maya) for winning the bet that I had with him involving his new film “Sleeping Dogs Lie” (I lost by default, not being able to attend the Sedona screening), not only wasn’t Maynard there, but, in what seems to be a case of enantiodromia (something becoming its opposite) if ever there was one (!), I was told the reason why he wasn’t there. I wish this post was dated April 1, but, unfortunately, it isn’t. Like a doctor giving a patient a straight, honest answer to a medical diagnosis, without sugar-coating the truth, here’s exactly what I was told: “Maynard has found Jesus.” This will come as a complete shock to most (but not all) of you, as it did to me. In fact, it just seemed like another MJK prank until I talked to the one person who I believe would know if all this was legit or not. After nearly an hour on the phone with this person, the answer I received was that Maynard has indeed “found Jesus” and that, for this reason, he’s abandoned the project for the time being, if not entirely. I don’t know what the f**k is in the water these days, but hopefully a black jelly belly will turn up in that golden bowl… that’s all I can think to say at this point. Before leaving the studio, I watched as Danny made arrangements to go play some golf, while Adam and Justin kept working on a particular song. So, in case you missed it (those who don’t read the whole post), here’s today's news: Maynard has found Jesus…


Thought some of the Tool fans around here might be interested in this news...

alkemical
04-06-2005, 11:54 AM
you must have found my thread on the off topics forum

Taco John
04-06-2005, 12:00 PM
you must have found my thread on the off topics forum



Nah, I didn't see it... I ran across the news at the Planet...

Strange news, indeed. Maynard isn't exactly known for his religious convictions.

alkemical
04-06-2005, 12:01 PM
Nah, I didn't see it... I ran across the news at the Planet...

Strange news, indeed. Maynard isn't exactly known for his religious convictions.


TJ -

I still think something is up - to be honest - i'm going to read it as 'literal' - since the band has a big thing for the quest for the grail.

bendog
04-06-2005, 12:01 PM
I thought this was about a recall on weed eaters or something. Scared me for a minute

RaiderH8r
04-06-2005, 12:04 PM
Nah, I didn't see it... I ran across the news at the Planet...

Strange news, indeed. Maynard isn't exactly known for his religious convictions.
I saw it over there too. That site is like the homeless, never working. Or I've been banned for my Derick Thomas comment....either way.

Maybe Robb got onto a Tool message board and converted Maynard.

Taco John
04-06-2005, 12:04 PM
I thought this was about a recall on weed eaters or something. Scared me for a minute



Your yard tools are just fine. Go back to your beer... ;)

Taco John
04-06-2005, 12:05 PM
Here's the MTV.com story:


Tool's Maynard James Keenan Says He's Found Jesus
04.05.2005 5:32 PM EDT

Status of Tool, A Perfect Circle unclear.

Has Maynard James Keenan, the frontman of both the dark, heavy-metal art band Tool and the somewhat lighter A Perfect Circle, found Jesus and been born again? Well ...

Recent postings on two Tool Web sites — one of them purportedly by Keenan himself — contend that the singer has found religion and has left Tool. Could this really be? On Tuesday afternoon (April 5), MTV News' Kurt Loder e-mailed Keenan for confirmation, and this is what he e-mailed back: "I did, in fact, find Jesus. More news to follow. God bless ya."

Keenan's letter to fan site toolshed.down.net explains that "some recent events have led me to the rediscovery of Jesus" and that "Tool will need to take the back seat." A posting on Tool's Web site alludes to Maynard's newfound Christianity as well, but who wrote the post is unclear. It reads, "I went to the studio to give Maynard a bottle of wine ... [and] not only wasn't Maynard there, but ... I was told Maynard has indeed 'found Jesus' and that, for this reason, he's abandoned the project for the time being, if not entirely."

But given their timing (one dated March 31, the other April 1), both posts were dismissed as April Fools' pranks, leaving fans wondering whether Keenan and the rest of Tool were just having a little fun with everyone.

The band's management could not be reached for comment or confirmation on the matter.

Keenan would be the second rocker in as many months to profess a renewed interest in religion. In late February, Korn's management formally announced that guitarist Brian "Head" Welch was leaving his band to rededicate his life to Christianity (see "Brian 'Head' Welch Talks God To 10,000 In California Church").

Whether Keenan — the man responsible for songs like "Prison Sex" and "Jerk-Off" and who for a time carried business cards with the name "Jesus H. Christ" printed on them — will become the second rocker to turn his back on a high-profile, highly successful band to follow a more spiritual path remains something of a question mark for the time being. But at least one person expressed glee over Keenan's apparent decision: Head.

"This is a beautiful, beautiful outpouring of the Holy Spirit," Welch wrote in an e-mail to MTV News.

— Chris Harris


http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1499613/20050405/tool.jhtml?headlines=true

Taco John
04-06-2005, 12:06 PM
From the ToolShed.down.net news section:

[04/01/05] - Completely unexpected

I have no idea how to introduce this, so I'll just post it. This is an email Maynard (the real one) sent in moments ago:

"hi, kabir. i thought it only fair to inform you first, before you hear it second or third hand. some recent events have led me to the rediscovery of jesus. tool will need to take the back seat. this may come as a shock. i just thought you should know considering all the support you given us over the years.

all my faith. maynard."

This is an actual email from actual MJK. I was going to type up a post about how the RIAA had sent us a letter shutting down The Tool Page (as this year's annual April Fools' Day joke), but now I just don't think it seems appropriate. More on this as it develops. §

Also, the Opinion forums are down temporarily. They will return as soon as possible. §

http://toolshed.down.net/news/

alkemical
04-06-2005, 12:08 PM
TJ -

Blair writes the news on the front page for toolband.com - he/she is their aide so to speak - but i know according to lore, he's ready for the end of the world


Here's the MTV.com story:


Tool's Maynard James Keenan Says He's Found Jesus
04.05.2005 5:32 PM EDT

Status of Tool, A Perfect Circle unclear.

Has Maynard James Keenan, the frontman of both the dark, heavy-metal art band Tool and the somewhat lighter A Perfect Circle, found Jesus and been born again? Well ...

Recent postings on two Tool Web sites — one of them purportedly by Keenan himself — contend that the singer has found religion and has left Tool. Could this really be? On Tuesday afternoon (April 5), MTV News' Kurt Loder e-mailed Keenan for confirmation, and this is what he e-mailed back: "I did, in fact, find Jesus. More news to follow. God bless ya."

Keenan's letter to fan site toolshed.down.net explains that "some recent events have led me to the rediscovery of Jesus" and that "Tool will need to take the back seat." A posting on Tool's Web site alludes to Maynard's newfound Christianity as well, but who wrote the post is unclear. It reads, "I went to the studio to give Maynard a bottle of wine ... [and] not only wasn't Maynard there, but ... I was told Maynard has indeed 'found Jesus' and that, for this reason, he's abandoned the project for the time being, if not entirely."

But given their timing (one dated March 31, the other April 1), both posts were dismissed as April Fools' pranks, leaving fans wondering whether Keenan and the rest of Tool were just having a little fun with everyone.

The band's management could not be reached for comment or confirmation on the matter.

Keenan would be the second rocker in as many months to profess a renewed interest in religion. In late February, Korn's management formally announced that guitarist Brian "Head" Welch was leaving his band to rededicate his life to Christianity (see "Brian 'Head' Welch Talks God To 10,000 In California Church").

Whether Keenan — the man responsible for songs like "Prison Sex" and "Jerk-Off" and who for a time carried business cards with the name "Jesus H. Christ" printed on them — will become the second rocker to turn his back on a high-profile, highly successful band to follow a more spiritual path remains something of a question mark for the time being. But at least one person expressed glee over Keenan's apparent decision: Head.

"This is a beautiful, beautiful outpouring of the Holy Spirit," Welch wrote in an e-mail to MTV News.

— Chris Harris


http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1499613/20050405/tool.jhtml?headlines=true

Taco John
04-06-2005, 12:09 PM
I think it's a ruse... I'll be happy for the guy if it's true, and hope he takes his music in whatever direction he's going... But I think this is a ruse, perhaps to poke fun at Head...

RaiderH8r
04-06-2005, 12:10 PM
I think it's a ruse... I'll be happy for the guy if it's true, and hope he takes his music in whatever direction he's going... But I think this is a ruse, perhaps to poke fun at Head...
Maynard will come back if they pre-sell 1 million albums.

alkemical
04-06-2005, 12:15 PM
I think it's a ruse... I'll be happy for the guy if it's true, and hope he takes his music in whatever direction he's going... But I think
this is a ruse, perhaps to poke fun at Head...



did you ever find the 'secret' pages on the toolband site TJ?

Mile High Shack
04-06-2005, 12:21 PM
Well maybe his music will take a different turn now…….I mean as long as it’s for the right reasons I respect someone doing this……..if it’s true I can’t imagine him singing a lot of his old songs.

alkemical
04-06-2005, 12:25 PM
Well maybe his music will take a different turn now…….I mean as long as it’s for the right reasons I respect someone doing this……..if it’s true I can’t imagine him singing a lot of his old songs.

actually the very first APC song is actually a good cd dealing with christian theology -


here's what i was talking about secret pages

http://www.toolband.com/index_frames.html

Mile High Shack
04-06-2005, 12:27 PM
actually the very first APC song is actually a good cd dealing with christian theology -


here's what i was talking about secret pages

http://www.toolband.com/index_frames.html
I think APC is a little different than tool….you are right….maybe he is just going to go with APC now.

I hope he didn’t go off the deep end like Rob on the end of the world stuff…..I’m sure Maynard is smarter than me, but man I could try and show him some things how these crack pots who claim the end of the world don’t know jack.

alkemical
04-06-2005, 12:48 PM
I think APC is a little different than tool….you are right….maybe he is just going to go with APC now.

I hope he didn’t go off the deep end like Rob on the end of the world stuff…..I’m sure Maynard is smarter than me, but man I could try and show him some things how these crack pots who claim the end of the world don’t know jack.


you know something MHS -

I dont' believe people are smarter for the most part than other people. for instance, i'm sure danny carey knows more about our similar studies - but i may know more about chocolate than he does (i work for a major chocolate company) -

I think maynard is smart, but i also think people add 100 iq points on a celebrty -

but with tool - they really push and promote smaller bands - and to me that counts... it's like even though they've made $$$ they don't forget how hard it was to get where they are

bronco militia
04-06-2005, 12:54 PM
I think maynard is smart, but i also think people add 100 iq points on a celebrty -



word

epicSocialism4tw
04-06-2005, 01:15 PM
You know...I thought that I heard a disappointed Christian behind the lyrics on Aenima and Undertow. I just thought that he hadn't been able to reconcile some of the evils in the world (or in his own experience) with the idea of a loving God. I think that he was seeking God and truth, but was angry at Him. Lyrically he comes off that way sometimes.

That's awesome for Mr. Keenan. That is one decision that he will never regret.

FADERPROOF
04-06-2005, 01:45 PM
I think it's a ruse... I'll be happy for the guy if it's true, and hope he takes his music in whatever direction he's going... But I think this is a ruse, perhaps to poke fun at Head...

Same here,this comes as too much of a shock to me, especially after Head left Korn, for me to take it seriously.

FADERPROOF
04-06-2005, 02:04 PM
http://www.toolnavy.com/image.php?u=7429&dateline=1111012103

Pezman
04-06-2005, 10:55 PM
Just a prank... whew...

From Toolband.com:

Good news, April fools fans. The writing and recording is back under way. When approached for comment on his recent encounter with the Son of God, Maynard said, "That guy's a punk!" As it turns out, Maynard was out "location scouting" near the Fourth Street bridge in downtown Los Angeles when he "found Jesus." "Turns out he was here the whole time, and not that difficult to find if you know where to look," Maynard reported. Apparently Jesus offered him the position of campaign manager for his new line of "Holier Than Thou" sparkling holy water, which Maynard of course accepted. What wasn't obvious was that this guy is a total drunk. It's an occupational hazard. Every time our Lord goes to get a glass of water, it transforms into a generic grocery store Merlot. Because the alcoholic is the Son of God and an all-knowing being, he knew of Maynard’s extensive interest in collecting wine. So he went to work trying to get his lips on it. Maynard caught J.C. in his cellar transforming his precious wine collection into urine, then pissing it into the empty "sparkling holy water" bottles for the eventual sale to all those people who bought, read, and embraced "The Celestine Prophesy." Tragic. "Truth be told," Maynard confessed, "I wasn't feeling top notch when I found him. The evening prior to the day in question I had over indulged in a series of bad Molotov shrimp cocktails with a side of Makers Mark and twin strippers. So after an entire night of G.I. Blowouts, hot/cold sweats, and blurred vision, it's very possible that the guy I met wasn't even Jesus at all. For all I know, it was Willem Dafoe."

http://www.toolband.com/index_frames.html

FADERPROOF
04-06-2005, 11:03 PM
Just a prank... whew...

From Toolband.com:

Good news, April fools fans. The writing and recording is back under way. When approached for comment on his recent encounter with the Son of God, Maynard said, "That guy's a punk!" As it turns out, Maynard was out "location scouting" near the Fourth Street bridge in downtown Los Angeles when he "found Jesus." "Turns out he was here the whole time, and not that difficult to find if you know where to look," Maynard reported. Apparently Jesus offered him the position of campaign manager for his new line of "Holier Than Thou" sparkling holy water, which Maynard of course accepted. What wasn't obvious was that this guy is a total drunk. It's an occupational hazard. Every time our Lord goes to get a glass of water, it transforms into a generic grocery store Merlot. Because the alcoholic is the Son of God and an all-knowing being, he knew of Maynard’s extensive interest in collecting wine. So he went to work trying to get his lips on it. Maynard caught J.C. in his cellar transforming his precious wine collection into urine, then pissing it into the empty "sparkling holy water" bottles for the eventual sale to all those people who bought, read, and embraced "The Celestine Prophesy." Tragic. "Truth be told," Maynard confessed, "I wasn't feeling top notch when I found him. The evening prior to the day in question I had over indulged in a series of bad Molotov shrimp cocktails with a side of Makers Mark and twin strippers. So after an entire night of G.I. Blowouts, hot/cold sweats, and blurred vision, it's very possible that the guy I met wasn't even Jesus at all. For all I know, it was Willem Dafoe."

http://www.toolband.com/index_frames.html


It's funny that even some of the most devoted tool fans still dont know to take Maynard with a grain of salt.

alkemical
04-07-2005, 05:15 AM
I figured it was a trickster element to it - considering the way it was written that he 'found' jesus.......