04-01-2005, 09:45 AM
And cut loose with opinions. Really, what's the deal with the accquisition of so many Cleveland Browns? Don't the Broncs know that's BAD KARMA? Further proof everything's going to hell in a handbasket.
Meanwhile, the Broncs are hot and heavy about ol' Courtney? A guy who's injury prone EARLY in his career? Who made this final decision, Shanny? I'd say Ted L., but he's still spinning on the turnstile rack. http://scosoft.com/s/g/6b7c14e2.gif
04-01-2005, 10:06 AM
I addressed this in another thread with this post:
**I think it's a nice gamble for a 4th round pick. This guy was top five talent, and there's every reason to believe he's in a better situation here. This team will obviously win more than the Browns, the coaching situation is more solid, we definietly have better linebackers, and now Warren has something to prove. Add to all of that the fact that Warren will be under the tender minstrations of Rich Tuten and "The Beast", (isn't that what they call that monstrous sled the Broncs have to push around in training camp?) I think he'll be in much better condition as well.
And who knows how any fourth round pick will pan out? We have two additional late thirds now, so I'm all for this move.
As to getting all of the Browns DL, I really think it's all coincidence. True, Andre Patterson did work with them, but the right situations came to pick these players up. Courtney Brown could have been cut from any team and I think we would have pursued him. So did three other teams. And the Droughns trade worked for both squads. The Browns get a solid, steady guy to get the tough yards (they still have a home run hitter is Suggs) and the Broncs shore up a positional weakness with two guys who are good role players and have cap-friendly deals.
You wanted talented D-lineman? We got that. Warren and Brown will be given every opportunity to suceed. Yes, they may get injured. But then again, any player can get injured. With the deals we have in place for these guys (structured around playing time and incentives), it's worth the risk. And we moved Droughns for two guys that will contribute.
Getting all of these D-Lineman will also allow us to take the best availabe player in the draft and not get forced into a need pick. So if they are available we can afford to snag Michael Clayton, Troy Willamson, Justin Miller, Kahliff Barnes, or even Matt Jones. (I don't know where we'd put Jones, but it'd be exciting to see what Shanny did with him.) Heck, we could even solidify the d-line further by getting Shaun Cody (or David Pollack or Dan Cody if they fell to us.)
Whew. I did not intend to write this much. Just my .02 to say that this is NOT a horrific offseason. Just one where we were up against the cap and had to make well considered choices.
I certainly hope we keep Pryce, but the Broncs front office DOES HAVE A PLAN. It may or may not work as hoped for, but this a very competitive league where nothing is a sure bet.**
Big Guy also had a take on the situation:
**People need to get real on this. Broncs traded a 4th round choice and a backup running back for four stop gap DL that are minimal hits to the cap this year and in the future. If two of these guys make a average contribution it is a steal for the Broncs.
That being said, with the risk these guys pose, the DL is still the most questionable part of the team and it needs to be addressed in the draft to prevent the Broncs form getting in this exact same position a year from now.**
04-01-2005, 10:21 AM
I think its actually an interesting move. while I think it has less reward than ppl probably seem to think. it has some reward and is an interesting at the least risk to take. the only real problem I have that ppl dont realize is broncos spent a fourth to basically lease gerard warren for a year. and could end up paying him serious money or letting him go ala hayward/berry in 12 months.