Denver Browns??

[Atlas]

Just trying it on for size.

[labronco]

Just trying it on for size.

denver what? i would have banned you if i could, just for saying that, that, ... s***! why did we get all this crap from cleveland?

i keep telling myself... we got'em for nothing. we got'em for nothing. we got'em for nothing....

[easymobee]

So what if all these guys are from the same team?

Gerard Warren was a top 3 pick in the draft and all he cost was a 4th rounder.

Courtney Brown was the #1 Overall pick in the draft and is a physical freak of nature ( Along with a tag that says "Look like Tarzan, Play Like Jane" ) But his contract is all in the Broncos favor. He's at the stage in his career where he truly has to play for his pay.

Ebenezer Ekuban had 8 sacks last year and could be another of our revolving door of DE's that end up mustering up 10-12 sacks.

Combine 2 NFL teams starting D Lines and you're bound to get one great rotation.

Trevor Pryce is still as of now a Bronco.

Palepoi, Pope, D.Davis, and all the others will be here as well ..... we're gonna be deep at this position.

Also, for those that want to bring up Cleveland's Run D numbers with equal parts doom and gloom ....... look at who the LineBACKERS in Cleveland were last year compared to whom reside in those spots here.

[easymobee]

And to our beloved Chief fans here at the Mane ......

Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Ian Gold, and Ekuban (All Horrible moves according to McDonalds faithful) would all be upgrades on your D.

I've been lurking at the planet and seeing all the talk about how Courtney Brown should just call it a career because he has 0% chance of remaining healthy enough to be of any use to Denver ...... only to see that a week earlier this same poster was proclaiming Kendrell Bell's injury days a "thing of the past" while penciling him in for a nice run of 16 straight starts.

[missingnumber7]

I sense a theme...get a lot of dline help so that if what happened last year happens again we don't have to pick up washed up guys, we have the guys we want. Last year when we were short d linement we would've killed for this depth...actually isn't that where the 3-4 talk came from? But anyway...I think that our d-line should be good this year. If you rotate guys and keep them fresh especially on long grind it out drives against running teams. If any one or two of these guys has an awesome year it it gonna be good times had by all.

[easymobee]

If you rotate guys and keep them fresh especially on long grind it out drives against running teams.

Its not just a bunch of 300 lb guys that would be working as gym teachers if not for the Broncos either.

There is a lot of actual TALENT there (Espescially if Trevor Pryce is retained).

Maybe Gerard Warren didn't do it for Cleveland like they thought he would, but there is a reason he was the 3rd pick in the draft, He came very cheap, and he's in a contract year ...... whats not to like about that?

Same thing could be said for Courtney Brown. There's a reason that he was in negotiations with 4 teams.

Ekuban is a 1st rounder too, and its being glossed over that he has produced at a pretty good level throughout his career ...

I just think that most of the negatives from this whole thing are being forged out of the fact that all these guys are from the same team ....

If they were all from 3 different teams people would probably accept it better.

Isn't it better that all 3 players have played together before and are already famaliar with their position coach?

[missingnumber7]

Isn't it better that all 3 players have played together before and are already famaliar with theri position coach?
True but with a different scheme it may not be that easy. But as for the bunch of them being talented...it takes the pressure off the individual to have a huge year like a FA would have coming in or a traded player would. I have a hard time believing that all 3 will have stellar all star years...but they have above average years and as a group they take pressure off of Pryce and put more emphasis in the group instead of the individual and we could see a huge year from our D-line.

[Kaylore]

Why is everyone upset about this? We basically took the entire D-line, coach inlcuded, and moved him here. I think its hilarious! And it may work! If anything we're preserving some consistancy up front.

We'll see how these guys do on a team that has a winning tradition and in a town that doesn't suck balls. Corey Dillon came out ok, at NE. Maybe Courtney Brown won't totally kill himeself playing he'll know he doesn't need to be the team savior. There's lots of help and they just do their job.

[azbroncfan]

Lets get orphius roye and we could have the dLINE that was involved in the Lewis running wild debacle. Granted Browns LB's are terrible and there Dline did okay against Portis that year.

[-Slap-]

I think importing entire units from unsuccessful teams is an innovative idea.

Why stop with Cleveland's defensive line? Why don't we see if we can reassemble the New York Giants' offensive line here in Denver? Maybe we can bring in all of San Francisco's receivers, too.

If we do nothing else, we should ask Cleveland about Jerry Sherk. He's 57 now, but at least he was good at one time.

http://www.sportsattic.com/nflphoto/photos/Sherk,Jerry1.jpg

[LifersRaiders]

Aaron 755
Ruth 714
Mays 660
Robinson 586
Killebrew 573

OUTSTANDING!!

[crazyhorse]

I must admit. It has taken awhile, but the fans are finally showing signs of rolling over. Normally when the Broncos make a deal the fans disagree with, they dont take long before they start to roll over and take it. But in this case, since the news broke yesterday, the fans have almost shown signs that they have some confidence in thier own opinions.

I expect as the opinions make thier transistions over the next few days, you clowns will find a way to proclaim yourselves capable of a Superbowl.

I would just like to leave you with one reality to tussle over the next few months.

These guys you are picking up have collectively been one of the worst defensive lines in the run game, in recent history.

The one thing you can hang your hat on in the current moves of the Broncos is that you may have a better pass rush. But that's just wishful thinking really.

Then again I could be completely wrong. They may do fantastic. I believe that the track record proves out however, that they wont do very well. The odds are against you.

Keep smiling.

[Mile High Shack]

I must admit. It has taken awhile, but the fans are finally showing signs of rolling over. Normally when the Broncos make a deal the fans disagree with, they dont take long before they start to roll over and take it. But in this case, since the news broke yesterday, the fans have almost shown signs that they have some confidence in thier own opinions.

I expect as the opinions make thier transistions over the next few days, you clowns will find a way to proclaim yourselves capable of a Superbowl.

I would just like to leave you with one reality to tussle over the next few months.

These guys you are picking up have collectively been one of the worst defensive lines in the run game, in recent history.

The one thing you can hang your hat on in the current moves of the Broncos is that you may have a better pass rush. But that's just wishful thinking really.

Then again I could be completely wrong. They may do fantastic. I believe that the track record proves out however, that they wont do very well. The odds are against you.

Keep smiling.

I appreciate your concern, but at least our team doesn't stand pat and only hire a coach to solve it's needs

[crazyhorse]

I appreciate your concern, but at least our team doesn't stand pat and only hire a coach to solve it's needs

I am guessing you will likely wish they had "stayed pat" by mid season.

[Mile High Shack]

I am guessing you will likely wish they had "stayed pat" by mid season.

how much you want to bet we have a better record than the chiefs next year?

[-Slap-]

These guys you are picking up have collectively been one of the worst defensive lines in the run game, in recent history.

Shows what you know, asshole. They held Jamal Lewis under 300 yards, didn't they?

[27atwater]

The Jamal Lewis thing isn't even an argument. Ekuban wasn't there and Brown wasn't on the field. Add their awful, HELMET TOSSING LBs and there ya have it.

[Mile High Shack]

Shows what you know, asshole. They held Jamal Lewis under 300 yards, didn't they?
This is what scares me…was it coaching and lack of good linebackers OR……was it the Dline…I guess we’ll find out since we are the Denver Browns now

[broncohaven]

Also, for those that want to bring up Cleveland's Run D numbers with equal parts doom and gloom ....... look at who the LineBACKERS in Cleveland were last year compared to whom reside in those spots here.
I was just thinking about that, and I couldn't for the life of me name a single Cleveland LB. Generally not a good sign.

I think everyone needs to realx about this whole thing. We're not going to turn into the Browns because we sign three DL from their squad. Two at least have stud potential, and all have been gotten at great value.

[Mile High Shack]

I was just thinking about that, and I couldn't for the life of me name a single Cleveland LB. Generally not a good sign.

I think everyone needs to realx about this whole thing. We're not going to turn into the Browns because we sign three DL from their squad. Two at least have stud potential, and all have been gotten at great value.
I think we are getting 4 of their Dlineman, I think we are getting a DT from them too with this trade

[27atwater]

I also heard a name I am unfamiliar with when they discussed it on the radio.

[crazyhorse]

and all have been gotten at great value.

When you suck, your value tends to drop off.

On the other hand, Droughns did not suck. And he was your best pass catching back. Which will likely further cripple the short passing game.

[Mile High Shack]

When you suck, your value tends to drop off.

On the other hand, Droughns did not suck. And he was your best pass catching back. Which will likely further cripple the short passing game.

LOL best pass catching back

have you seen him play?

[crazyhorse]

LOL best pass catching back

have you seen him play?

Yes, And though he is not great. He was the best you had.

[Mile High Shack]

Yes, And though he is not great. He was the best you had.
You chief/raider fans crack me up

All we hear is…”Denver backs aren’t all that great, it is just the system”

Well we trade a “system” back for some backup dlineman and you cry….TERRIBLE TRADE….YOU LOST ONE OF YOUR BEST PLAYERS

Give me a physical break…you freakin’ troll

[Atlas]

We're not going to turn into the Browns because we sign three DL from their squad. Two at least have stud potential, and all have been gotten at great value.

Brown, Ecuban, Myers and Warren. That's four.

I agree though. Add the entire Brown Dline and have them fight it out with the Denver Dline and field the best team. Why is everyone so upset? Alexander, Henry and James are all on the market and none of them are getting any action why do any of you think Denver could get anything for Drougns? A one year wonder in the Bronco system isn't exactly rare. Ecuban had just as good a season as Bryce Fisher. He also comes cheaper. Myers is a tough scrapper. I remember watching him in Dallas. He has limited tools but he gives his all. He reminds me of a Mike Lodish. Both Warren and Brown are cheap and come with loads of potential.

Why is everyone upset. People need to relax and see how this shapes out. I know one thing for certain there is going to be plenty of competition in camp this year and that is always a good thing.

[dumpy]

Yes, And though he is not great. He was the best you had.


Sorry, Q was better and Bell lit it up after he caught the ball (if he just wouldn't fumble it at the goal line). Both these guys are better pass catchers than Droughns

[Odysseus]

This is what scares me…was it coaching and lack of good linebackers OR……was it the Dline…I guess we’ll find out since we are the Denver Browns now

I would say it was coaching since the coach got walked.

Broncos are actually pretty good at working with lab rats. It's just unfortunate that it's an obsession. I think Broncos are going towards a "disposable" defense where they bring players in, let them get paid elsewhere and build it again. I think they want to be the pimp daddys of the NFL. Get the ho's working and toss them tricks. Gimme my dayum Lombardi!

Remember...Pimping ain't easy!

[Raider Bill]

What did they do, buy Butch Davis' "plan" off of E Bay?

[crazyhorse]

Sorry, Q was better and Bell lit it up after he caught the ball (if he just wouldn't fumble it at the goal line). Both these guys are better pass catchers than Droughns

These statements are incorrect. Droughns was without a doubt, your best pass catching back. And that's not saying much.

[Atlas]

These statements are incorrect. Droughns was without a doubt, your best pass catching back. And that's not saying much.

Droughns was a good pass catching back BUT you don't catch many passes from the Bench and that's where he would have been. Anderson is probably better but the Job is Bell's and he'll learn how to catch better.. practice,practice,practice.

[crazyhorse]

Droughns was a good pass catching back BUT you don't catch many passes from the Bench and that's where he would have been. Anderson is probably better but the Job is Bell's and he'll learn how to catch better.. practice,practice,practice.

Though I disagree that Anderson is better. I do think the rest is a fair assumption.

Pass catching is the exact reason that Anderson could never nail down the job of RB in Denver.

[HEAV]

Ya sure Plan E is working out great so far................ Only way I'll be happy if they pull of the deal with Pryce to the Skins and get Rolle. Other wise it's garbage in garbage out.

[Mile High Shack]

These statements are incorrect. Droughns was without a doubt, your best pass catching back. And that's not saying much.
Way to avoid what I said idiot

[sirhcyennek81]

Johnson is actually our best passcatching back. However, a running back's main job...is to run the ball. Droughns would not have been able to do this with a bell, griffin and anderson ahead of him. Good luck in cleveland, Reuben.

[Spider]

When you suck, your value tends to drop off.

On the other hand, Droughns did not suck. And he was your best pass catching back. Which will likely further cripple the short passing game.
:kiddingme we didnt have a good pass catching back since Portis has left ....
R.D. is pure class , and he will bust his ass every play , play any position asked of him , he will be missed , but he does lose control of the Rock ......... But he wasnt our Best pass catching Back , that Honor goes to Kyle Johnson .......

[Arkie]

Yes, And though he is not great. He was the best you had.

Whatever! Just because he tore up the Chiefs defense. You will meet Tatum Bell soon enough. :~ohyah!:

Droughns was good because he was playing for Denver. Do these numbers mean anything to you?

Clinton Portis had a 5.5 average in Denver. It dropped to a 3.8 in Washington.

Orlandis Gary had a 4.3 average in Denver. It dropped to 3.4 in Detroit.

Derek Loville had a 3.2 average in San Francisco. It rose to a 4.1 average in Denver.

Reuben Droughns had a 2.4 average at Detroit. It rose to a 4.4 average in Denver. I'm predicting it will drop to 3.3 in Cleveland.

You heard it here first.

Oh yeah, Tatum's will be over 5 yards per carry again!

[Spider]

;D Bosco T. Bell showed alot last year , Showed me anyway , biggest thing about Bell is his deceptive Power , I didnt think he could Power like that ..... He refines his Vision , Bell Damn well could be another TD ...... Bell isnt Flashy like Portis was , But Bell brings it .....

[Arkie]

I just hope Bell can stay healthy. He's only shown glimpses of what he will do.

[Atlas]

Though I disagree that Anderson is better. I do think the rest is a fair assumption.

Pass catching is the exact reason that Anderson could never nail down the job of RB in Denver.

That is a redicules statement. The reason Anderson wasn't the starting back is because he couldn't catch. Portis didn't exactly have good hands and he seemed to handle the RB situationpretty well.

[~Crash~]

Anderson did fine at catching the ball ! also Anderson knew how to find the end zone 20 pluss timeS the year he was the starter and teams had 8 in the box all day our passing game scared noone !

[~Crash~]

Anderson had a few games were he was getting stonewalled because he is a touch slow to the hole. but like I said times have change we do have a better passing game there will be no 8 in a box ! if there is jake will make them pay !!

[crazyhorse]

You chief/raider fans crack me up

All we hear is…”Denver backs aren’t all that great, it is just the system”

Well we trade a “system” back for some backup dlineman and you cry….TERRIBLE TRADE….YOU LOST ONE OF YOUR BEST PLAYERS

Give me a physical break…you freakin’ troll

I did not address you directly, but did answer your question.

Once again, I never said he was great. Only the best you had at catching as a running back.

I hope this has satisfied your need to be acknowledged.

[ozomulsion]

;D Bosco T. Bell showed alot last year , Showed me anyway , biggest thing about Bell is his deceptive Power , I didnt think he could Power like that ..... He refines his Vision , Bell Damn well could be another TD ...... Bell isnt Flashy like Portis was , But Bell brings it .....

Plus he's a damn fine blocker in blitz pickup wether you want to admit it or not. :)

[Mile High Shack]

I did not address you directly, but did answer your question.

Once again, I never said he was great. Only the best you had at catching as a running back.

I hope this has satisfied your need to be acknowledged.
No I just like pointing out how much of an idiot you are

[crazyhorse]

No I just like pointing out how much of an idiot you are

Well played........White Chocolate........ Hilarious!

[bendog]

Plus he's a damn fine blocker in blitz pickup wether you want to admit it or not. :)
He'd better have learned to run "lower" (ie not so upright) or they'll be removing his spleen.

[Spider]

Plus he's a damn fine blocker in blitz pickup wether you want to admit it or not. :)
Hey . you never hear me spit that crap out again ...... He proved me wrong on all counts .......

[fontaine]

Whatever! Just because he tore up the Chiefs defense. You will meet Tatum Bell soon enough. :~ohyah!:

. . .

Oh yeah, Tatum's will be over 5 yards per carry again!

Anything less would be failure considering in his rookie season where he was banged up and still learning the system he still managed 5.3 yards a pop in 75 rushing attempts spread across multiple defenses.


He ranked 9th in the NFL in yards/rush