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kirby33
03-29-2005, 03:18 PM
If we go reciever in first round, which one do you take. Below is the list

Draft Tracker

Wide Receivers
Player Ht. Wt. School Rd Sel# Team
Brackins, Larry 6-4 205 Pearl River C.C.
Bradley, Mark 6-1 201 Oklahoma
Bragg, Craig 6-1 196 UCLA
Brown, Reggie 6-1 197 Georgia
Clayton, Mark 5-10 193 Oklahoma
Edwards, Braylon 6-3 211 Michigan
Gibson, Fred 6-4 202 Georgia
Henry, Chris 6-4 197 West Virginia
Jackson, Vincent 6-5 241 Northern Colorado
Jones, Brandon 6-1 208 Oklahoma
Jones, Matt 6-6 242 Arkansas
Lyman, Chase 6-3 217 California
Mathis, Jerome 5-11 181 Hampton
McArthur, Geoff 6-0 199 California
McCoy, LeRon 6-1 211 Indiana (Pa.)
Moore, Lance 5-9 177 Toledo
Murphy, Terrence 6-1 202 Texas A&M
Parrish, Roscoe 5-10 168 Miami (Fla.)
Perry, Tab 6-2 229 UCLA
Rector, Jamaica 5-10 186 Northwest Missouri State
Ridgeway, Dante 5-11 212 Ball State
Roby, Courtney 6-0 189 Indiana
Russell, J.R. 6-3 206 Louisville
Savoy, Steven 5-11 192 Utah
Sheldon, Dan 5-9 179 Northern Illinois
Stovall, Chauncey 6-1 221 Florida State
Thorpe, Craphonso 6-1 188 Florida State
Warren, Paris 6-0 213 Utah
White, Sharod 'Roddy' 6-1 201 Alabama-Birmingham
Williams, Mike 6-5 229 Southern California
Williamson, Troy 6-1 203 South Carolina

epicSocialism4tw
03-29-2005, 03:20 PM
Mark Clayton...

We need a game breaker who can also return kicks.

long beach bronco
03-29-2005, 03:25 PM
I just hope Jackson is there in the 2nd round, that guy is going to be a gamebreaker.

long beach bronco
03-29-2005, 03:28 PM
Troy Williamson would do wonders for us too.

Goobzilla
03-29-2005, 03:31 PM
Craphonso Thorpe on name alone :)

What are these parents thinking? :kiddingme

Hercules Rockefeller
03-29-2005, 03:36 PM
Trade down into the top of the 2nd, and Vincent Jackson.

Doufer
03-29-2005, 03:45 PM
matt jones!!

epicSocialism4tw
03-29-2005, 03:52 PM
Mark Clayton and I agree on Matt Jones.

Rich Karlis
03-29-2005, 03:55 PM
Mark Clayton would eventually step in for Rod Smith nicely.....

Hercules Rockefeller
03-29-2005, 03:57 PM
Mark Clayton would eventually step in for Rod Smith nicely.....

It'd be nice to have someone fill the already vacant shoes of Ed McCaffrey

epicSocialism4tw
03-29-2005, 03:58 PM
It'd be nice to have someone fill the already vacant shoes of Ed McCaffrey

Mark Clayton.

Hercules Rockefeller
03-29-2005, 04:01 PM
Mark Clayton.

6'4 230 v. 5'11 190

Sorry, no.

Billy Clyde Puckett
03-29-2005, 04:02 PM
Mark Clayton would eventually step in for Rod Smith nicely.....
At 5'9" and 185 pounds, he is not big enough to go over the middle in the NFL and throw downfield blocks. He is a slot receiver like Watts, but probably better.

epicSocialism4tw
03-29-2005, 04:05 PM
6'4 230 v. 5'11 190

Sorry, no.

Mark Clayton is tough and will go over the middle. The guy is a total player. Good downfield blocker as well.

I know that he is small, but sometimes you have to take the best player and Clayton could end up all-pro. Sounds like a better idea than taking a flier on a small school guy with size.

Ballhawk
03-29-2005, 04:05 PM
Stovall, Chauncey 6-1 221 Florida State there is the pick fellas, this kid has skills wait and see.

broncohaven
03-29-2005, 04:20 PM
Mike Williams. We should keep Pryce, trade the rest of our draft and take Williams.

Cleo McDowell
03-29-2005, 04:22 PM
mike williams PLEASE. then two tickets to the super bowl.. :homer:

epicSocialism4tw
03-29-2005, 04:34 PM
mike williams PLEASE. then two tickets to the super bowl.. :homer:

I would take Williams, but he is not an end-all.

Kaylore
03-29-2005, 05:01 PM
6'4 230 v. 5'11 190

Sorry, no.
Totally agree. We don't take a little guy in round one or two. This team has little speedsters already. We need a big possesion/blocking guy. I don't care how "tough" Clayton looked in college, he's NOT going to play up the middle in the pro's. He will get owned.

Clockwork Orange
03-29-2005, 05:02 PM
Trade down into the top of the 2nd, and Vincent Jackson.

Agreed.

epicSocialism4tw
03-29-2005, 05:07 PM
Totally agree. We don't take a little guy in round one or two. This team has little speedsters already. We need a big possesion/blocking guy. I don't care how "tough" Clayton looked in college, he's NOT going to play up the middle in the pro's. He will get owned.

So...we have a fortune teller amongst us.

Broncoman13
03-29-2005, 06:41 PM
Trade down into the top of the 2nd, and Vincent Jackson.


Wise, wise, wise........... the voice of reasoning!!!

Personally, if Mike Williams, Braylon Edwards, and Mark Clayton are not available you move down just a bit and address a big time need. FS. HELLO JOSH BULLOCKS!!! Superior speed for a safety with a ballhawk mentality! You could easily twist my arm for a guy like Rolle, Rogers, Miller or Pac-man if any of them fall, but I think Bullocks is probably the smartest choice for us. He is talented enough in coverage to become our Nickel Back and will never leave the field. Think Ed Reed ballhawk skills..... mind you he does NOT have Ed Reed's overall skills (blitzes, hitting power, FB savvy).

For those that would like to have Williamson remember we already have our stretch the field guy in Ash. There is very little difference in Williamson and Ash. If we go WR in the first it better be Mark Clayton.... Smallish, but plays big and doesn't aligator arm the ball in traffic. Plus, and Broncos fans have to love this, he takes pleasure in blocking as a WR.

Perfect scenario right now. Trade down to the bottom of the first or top of the 2nd for an extra pick.... should net an early round 3 pick if we trade from 25 to say 34 or 35.

Pick #34 FS Josh Bullocks
Pick #56 WR Vincent Jackson
Pick #67 OG Evan Mathis
Pick #97 Punter Dustin Colquitt
Pick #101 QB Adrian McPherson

This scenario includes the following. A trade with the Cleveland Browns. We send them pick #25 and Ruben Droughns. They send us pick #34(2nd) and pick #67(3rd) and Ezkuban. We also agree to no further compensation in regards to the Droughns/Ekuban swap even if Ekuban doesn't see the field due to injury. Why does this work? Moving up from 34 to 25 is worth a late 2nd round pick. Since the Browns 2nd rounder is early we settle for their early third. We ice this deal by allowing the Browns an out in the Droughns trade. This deal gives us 5 picks in what most consider the talent pool of this draft (pick 30-100). What I mean by that is the players going in that range are almost equal in value throughout! Naturally you lose a little when you compare Justin Tuck to Bill Swancutt, but the talent is there in each player. This deal also makes sense b/c the Broncos seemingly have a taker in the Browns for just about any deal they want to throw out!!!!!

Also, the Browns are rumored to be interested in adding another WR. IF Williamson, Clayton or White are available at 25 look for the Browns to perhaps even sweeten the pot a bit!!!

Broncoman13
03-29-2005, 06:53 PM
Totally agree. We don't take a little guy in round one or two. This team has little speedsters already. We need a big possesion/blocking guy. I don't care how "tough" Clayton looked in college, he's NOT going to play up the middle in the pro's. He will get owned.


I am a very big Mark Clayton supporter but you make a very good point. Keep in mind though that Mark Clayton is already drawing comparisons to Hines Ward b/c of his toughness. I doubt he slides to us b/c he is a player that the Ravens are in love with. But, if he does I'd hope that we would think long and hard about grabbing him. Think of Marvin Harrison type skills with a Hines Ward type mentality. The Broncos also love the down field blocking WR's..... one of the reasons we were very high on Mike Clayton last year.

Mark Clayton is 5'10 and 190. Not great size for a WR but not bad size either.

If someone can come on here and convince me that Vincent Jackson is as physical IN HIS APPROACH to the position then I'd gladly take him over Clayton. I haven't seen VJ play a single down and that includes the Sr. Bowl..... the one that Clayton looked like an All Pro in. I've been watching Clayton play for three years and if it wasn't for Bradley, Jones, Peoples and Adrian Peterson stepping up big last year you'd be talking about a WR that caught 80 passes and went for 1500 yards and 20 TD's!!!!!

Trade down, pick up and extra player and I'll forget the Clayton pick... if he lasts.

Hercules Rockefeller
03-29-2005, 06:58 PM
Rick Gosselin was on the radio today in Dallas, he said his WRs were ranked: Edwards, Clayton, Williamson, and then Mike Williams.

Also said that there were 5-6 players in last year's draft who would go #1 this year.

Broncoman13
03-29-2005, 08:02 PM
I believe that without a doubt Anny. Fitz, Gallery, Eli, Roy Williams, Rivers and perhaps even Roth would have graded out higher if they were in this years draft. Think of how much guys like Kiwi and D'brickshaw cost themselves by not coming out in this years draft. Both would have been sure fire top 10 selections!

longtimer
03-29-2005, 08:09 PM
Mark Clayton is tough and will go over the middle. The guy is a total player. Good downfield blocker as well.

I know that he is small, but sometimes you have to take the best player and Clayton could end up all-pro. Sounds like a better idea than taking a flier on a small school guy with size.
I would rather take a chance on a player with the physcal make up of jackson than gamble on the under sized clayton. There are more players that are under sized that do not make it in the NFL.

I think clayton is like Q will not be big enough to take the pounding.

Kaylore
03-30-2005, 03:22 AM
I am a very big Mark Clayton supporter but you make a very good point. Keep in mind though that Mark Clayton is already drawing comparisons to Hines Ward b/c of his toughness. I doubt he slides to us b/c he is a player that the Ravens are in love with. But, if he does I'd hope that we would think long and hard about grabbing him. Think of Marvin Harrison type skills with a Hines Ward type mentality. The Broncos also love the down field blocking WR's..... one of the reasons we were very high on Mike Clayton last year.

Mark Clayton is 5'10 and 190. Not great size for a WR but not bad size either.

If someone can come on here and convince me that Vincent Jackson is as physical IN HIS APPROACH to the position then I'd gladly take him over Clayton. I haven't seen VJ play a single down and that includes the Sr. Bowl..... the one that Clayton looked like an All Pro in. I've been watching Clayton play for three years and if it wasn't for Bradley, Jones, Peoples and Adrian Peterson stepping up big last year you'd be talking about a WR that caught 80 passes and went for 1500 yards and 20 TD's!!!!!

Trade down, pick up and extra player and I'll forget the Clayton pick... if he lasts.

You have a point about playing physical versus just being big. In the pros, its much harder to play beyond your size since everyone is so good, and while clayton is good at what he does, I'd like to see him get nailed by John Lynch and then we'll see how tough he is.

Basically my original point is that we don't need a fast little guy like that. We need a big possesion guy. Though IF he was there when are up, taking him wouldn't surprise me.

x123z
03-30-2005, 05:42 AM
Matt Jones another Hines Ward.

Drek
03-30-2005, 06:21 AM
Mike Williams. We should keep Pryce, trade the rest of our draft and take Williams. Our tradable draft consists of our 1st, 2nd, 6th, and 7th. So we could move to what, 20th? Comp picks aren't tradable. Even still we'd only make the early to mid teens throwing them both in if we even could.

The only way we go up after a Mike Williams, Braylon Edwards, Antrell Rolle, etc., is if they start to slide and at the same time we find a team willing to grossly overpay for Trevor Pryce with near first round compensation.

I can't see any way we should even be talking WR in the draft though. Our 1st rounder is going to offer 2nd rounder quality this year, so we'd be best to trade back or better yet, for a 1st next year. In the 2nd we must still adress need positions, which WR is not. An OG or DL (namely DT) should be our primary concern. IF we do trade Putz TE then comes on the board as a vital position as well, though we'll likely get a 2nd to fill it with (Alex Smith would be my choice). If we're going to do well next year we need to use our 1st (should we keep it, I wouldn't) and 2nd round picks on guys who can at least come in and at least play heavily in rotation. David Baas, Brown, Patterson, etc..

Crushaholic
03-30-2005, 10:13 AM
Craphonso Thorpe on name alone :)

What are these parents thinking? :kiddingme

Very true. If he doesn't work out, it would be very easy (AND very accurate) to shorten his name to Crap.

broncohaven
03-30-2005, 10:45 AM
We should trade down and try to go after Baas and Matt Jones, or Demarcus Ware and Matt Jones.

If we're talking measurables it's hard to beat 6'6" 242 pounds 4.37-4.4 40yd dash,
39.5" vertical. the insanity of those numbers is staggering.

Jones would be a little bit of a reach in the first round, but I have to say that if we took him at #25 I would be excited that we got him.

missingnumber7
03-30-2005, 02:57 PM
I think Jackson in the 2nd is a reach. I watched him a couple times when UNC played NDSU and SDSU. I wasn't really impressed with what he did other than his return jobs against NDSU this year. He's got potential and I see the reason everyone is so high on him, a local boy. But so was Van Pelt and Sapp, how many other Colo and Colo State guys have been picked up. Don't take me wrong I think he's worth taking...but there are people making him sound like a 1st rounder. We have other striking needs to pick up in the 1st and 2nd and hopefully he is available for one of our comp picks. But 1st and 2nd round recievers should be an impact player. We've got 3 quality recievers right now plus a good TE. I think we should look for a right guard and maybe some secondary help now that we've made some moves with our d-line.