We interviewed Antrel Rolle at the combine

[SoCalBronco]

according to his mom. She responded to a PM i sent her on a hurricanes board regarding Denver's interest in Antrel. She said they were one of the teams that interviewed him at the combine. Interesting, maybe if Shanny is going to move up like alot of people are saying, it might be for Rolle to be our super ball hawking safety perhaps. Or they move walls to safety and have two stud corners in Rolle and Bailey.

As a sidenote, she said Willie Middlebrooks was one of her students back in the day.

Now i still want DL in the draft, but maybe if we can get Courtney Brown and keep Trevor or sign a decent defensive lineman after the June 1st cuts using the money freed up by Plummer yesterday, it might be an idea to go after Rolle.

[Pezman]

Even with the prospect of Rolle, are we still ok capwise to sign all our draft picks btw?

I'd love to see how this kid would play in our system for sure.

[Clockwork Orange]

http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Images/Top%20Stories/2005/rolle_antrel_050308.jpg

One of the very few players in this draft I'd be in favor of trading up to get.

[SoCalBronco]

Even with the prospect of Rolle, are we still ok capwise to sign all our draft picks btw?

i dunno about our cap bro. Right now we are about 3 million under according to that article yesterday, after Plummer restructured for the second time this offseason. Herc prolly knows alot better on that though.

[Clockwork Orange]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe dumping Pryce (either via trade or releasing him) will free up about $3 million in cap space this season.

[SoCalBronco]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe dumping Pryce (either via trade or releasing him) will free up about $3 million in cap space this season.

i think that may be a conservative estimate CO. I think Heav tossed around the number of 5 million. I dont remember how much Herc said we would save, but it was pretty significant.

[Pezman]

i think that may be a conservative estimate CO. I think Heav tossed around the number of 5 million. I dont remember how much Herc said we would save, but it was pretty significant.

Even with the restructuring, I'd be happy if we could have not blown money on... ah nevermind
~Popps~

Needless to say, I hope the interview is just the beginning of a good prospect with this kid. How was his prospects jumped since the combine btw?

[SoCalBronco]

Pez, right now i think he could go anywhere from the middle of the top 10 to the middle of the teens. He had a good pro day, running in the 4.4s.

[Clockwork Orange]

i think that may be a conservative estimate CO. I think Heav tossed around the number of 5 million. I dont remember how much Herc said we would save, but it was pretty significant.

I believe you're right. I remember that figure being tossed around also.

It just seems as though it's a bit late in the game to just dump Pryce for the cap savings now. The majority of desirable free agents have already been signed, hell there weren't that many A-list defensive linemen on the market to begin with.

Anyway, I don't want to hijack this thread into another Pryce discussion. Rolle would be a great pickup, but odds are the Broncos would have to get somewhere between the 6-9 pick to get him. The Titans look like a good trade partner due to their cap issues combined with the prospect of shelling out the $$ for a top 10 selection. But I'm wary of the Broncos giving up their 1st rounder in next years draft (which is an absolute certainty in a proposed deal like this) which is shaping up to be much deeper than this year.

[SoCalBronco]

Now im not saying we are going to move up for him, but it is interesting that we would use one of our interviews on a guy who is projected to go significantly higher than where we pick so there has to be some interest there. So it may be a consideration to move up for him depending on whether he falls below where they think he will go. It would sure be nice to see more of this, in orange and blue this time, as opposed to orange, white and green:

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/mifl/galleries/m-footbl-010104-2/williams13024-010104-lg.jpg

[Rascal]

What do you think Watts, Droughns, and our 25 would pick up?

He is one of the few players that I would be willing to give all that up for and fix the d-line next year and tred water in FA this year.

[Rascal]

Now im not saying we are going to move up for him, but it is interesting that we would use one of our interviews on a guy who is projected to go significantly higher than where we pick so there has to be some interest there. So it may be a consideration to move up for him depending on whether he falls below where they think he will go. It would sure be nice to see more of this, in orange and blue this time, as opposed to orange, white and green:

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/mifl/galleries/m-footbl-010104-2/williams13024-010104-lg.jpg

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[Clockwork Orange]

What do you think Watts, Droughns, and our 25 would pick up?

Honestly, I don't think that would even get us up to the 24th pick. Droughns has no trade value. Watts is still developing, and while he has some promise, his trade value is minimal.

[Rascal]

Honestly, I don't think that would even get us up to the 24th pick. Droughns has no trade value. Watts is still developing, and while he has some promise, his trade value is minimal.

really?

hMMM...then what would we need to give up to move into the 6-10 range?

Maybe Pryce, Droughns or Watts, and our 25 to Dallas?

[NFLBRONCO]

We must be talking to the Titans about #6

[Clockwork Orange]

really?

hMMM...then what would we need to give up to move into the 6-10 range?

Maybe Pryce, Droughns or Watts, and our 25 to Dallas?

No one's going to give anything of value for Pryce. If they were, it would have happened already.

It's going to take draft picks, current & future. It'll likely cost the Broncos their 1st & 2nd rounders this year, their 1st next year plus more. It all depends how high they want to trade up and how much the team they're attempting to deal with is asking for.

[SoCalBronco]

Again i do not want to create the impression that we are definitely going to move up for him. But, i do know we have a limited number of combine interviews (because two years ago or last year i dont remember, but we did double up with the Saints so that both teams could get more info with more players overall) and its undisputed that Rolle is likely to go at minimum 10-12 picks ahead of Denver, probably more like 16-18, so there has to be at least some interest in the guy there, so its reasonable to think moving up for rolle is at least a consideration based on a) how the draft plays out i.e. how far rolle falls below the 6-9 area if at all and b) what type of defensive line situation we are in at the time the draft begins i.e. whether we make an internal decision to keep Trevor, or sign Brown, Ellis Johnson etc.

[baja]

We must be talking to the Titans about #6

I think you are right - the Titans have no cap room and will be hard pressed to sign a #6 over all. Plus they need lots of help and a trade down would bring that.

[Clockwork Orange]

Again i do not want to create the impression that we are definitely going to move up for him. But, i do know we have a limited number of combine interviews (because two years ago or last year i dont remember, but we did double up with the Saints so that both teams could get more info with more players overall) and its undisputed that Rolle is likely to go at minimum 10-12 picks ahead of Denver, probably more like 16-18, so there has to be at least some interest in the guy there, so its reasonable to think moving up for rolle is at least a consideration based on a) how the draft plays out i.e. how far rolle falls below the 6-9 area if at all and b) what type of defensive line situation we are in at the time the draft begins i.e. whether we make an internal decision to keep Trevor, or sign Brown, Ellis Johnson etc.

It's cool SoCal, I know you're not trying to be a rumor monger. :thumbsup:

It's just that talking about this beats the hell out of rehashing the same topics that have been beaten to death on this board over the last couple of weeks (namely Ian Gold and Mike Williams).

Landing Antrel Rolle would make me feel a whole lot better about this offseason.

[NFLBRONCO]

I think you are right - the Titans have no cap room and will be hard pressed to sign a #6 over all. Plus they need lots of help and a trade down would bring that.

Yep plus Fisher and Shanny are buds so might be more willing to deal.

[NFLBRONCO]

Again i do not want to create the impression that we are definitely going to move up for him. But, i do know we have a limited number of combine interviews (because two years ago or last year i dont remember, but we did double up with the Saints so that both teams could get more info with more players overall) and its undisputed that Rolle is likely to go at minimum 10-12 picks ahead of Denver, probably more like 16-18, so there has to be at least some interest in the guy there, so its reasonable to think moving up for rolle is at least a consideration based on a) how the draft plays out i.e. how far rolle falls below the 6-9 area if at all and b) what type of defensive line situation we are in at the time the draft begins i.e. whether we make an internal decision to keep Trevor, or sign Brown, Ellis Johnson etc.


This offseason has been boring we need dreams like this. Like I always say DRAFT A CANE :)

[NFLBRONCO]

Wonder if having Moss and Porter in AFC West might push this move even more.

[SoCalBronco]

This offseason has been boring we need dreams like this. Like I always say DRAFT A CANE :)

Rep.

actually this would be a great thing (if we can get our DL in order) if for no reason other than i could make a nice "Ohhhhhhhhhhhh TrINT, meet your new friend" thread with the post consisting of something like "Take a good look at those hands, Trent. Not only are those hands alot bigger than yours but they might as well be Tony Gonzalez hands or Eddie Kennison's hands. Those hands will see just as many balls. Take a good look at that glare, Trent. That glare is going to make you melt just like Dick4Meal's tears makes you melt after a good soothing circle cry." I would really enjoy making this kind of thread for our good buddy Bob.

[CBF1]

Well according to the value chart, This could work.

Titans pick #6 has a 1600 value

Denvers #25 has a 720 value
Denvers #57 has a 330 value

If we throw in next years #1 that would give the edge in favor to the Titans. The worse 1st round value is 590 for #32 so add that as a minmum value and we have 1640 which can cover the #6 pick.

Now who would you prefer at #6 if available..... Rolle or Williams?

This is way too much for me to think about. ugh!~

[DBroncos4life]

Well according to the value chart, This could work.

Titans pick #6 has a 1600 value

Denvers #25 has a 720 value
Denvers #57 has a 330 value

If we throw in next years #1 that would give the edge in favor to the Titans. The worse 1st round value is 590 for #32 so add that as a minmum value and we have 1640 which can cover the #6 pick.

Now who would you prefer at #6 if available..... Rolle or Williams?

This is way too much for me to think about. ugh!~



Denver would have to send this years first and next years first or even first and second to get a top ten pick. Most of the time when people move in the top ten they send more value then equaling it.

[BroncoInferno]

I don't want to get SoCal up in arms, but I can think of two players on our current roster who alone would fetch a top 10 pick: Ashley Lelie and DJ Williams. I can't see them moving DJ, but I could see them moving Ashley if Shanny is really as enamored with Mike Williams as rumor suggests. A team like Minnesota or Chicago looking to upgrade at receiver would get one of the games top deep threats--and who still has upside--with two remaining on a contract that would be cheaper than a top 10 pick. Not sure if I'd like this move (though I can take a wild guess at SoCal's response ;D), but just throwing it out there. I will say that, although I like Ashley a great deal, I think Williams will clearly be the better player, and suit our needs better. We need a first down machine who can kill in the red zone. Williams would instantly give us that. Plus, it would leave us with the 25th pick to upgrade defensively. Just thought I'd throw it out there. :poke:

[baja]

Why would someone trade their top ten pick for Lelie if that same pick would net them mike Williams?

[Play2win]

This offseason has been boring we need dreams like this. Like I always say DRAFT A CANE :)
Rep whore!!! ;D

You knew you were getting rep for that one.

Hell, I don't care if we become the Denver Hurricanes, if it nets us another Superbowl championship. Just DRAFT MIKE WILLIAMS FIRST!!

[BroncoInferno]

Why would someone trade their top ten pick for Lelie if that same pick would net them mike Williams?

Because they'd get an emerging receiver for a fraction of the cost that it will take to sign a top ten pick. If Red McCombs still owns the Vikings at draft time, I wouldn't put it past that cheap skate to go for a move that saves a buck. Also, some teams may prefer an explosive deep threat over a bigger possession guy.

[Ratboy]

Cornerback.. eh?

I wouldn't be agianst it.

[Play2win]

Well according to the value chart, This could work.

Titans pick #6 has a 1600 value

Denvers #25 has a 720 value
Denvers #57 has a 330 value

If we throw in next years #1 that would give the edge in favor to the Titans. The worse 1st round value is 590 for #32 so add that as a minmum value and we have 1640 which can cover the #6 pick.

Now who would you prefer at #6 if available..... Rolle or Williams?

This is way too much for me to think about. ugh!~
WILLIAMS, without a doubt. I think Walls and Middlebrooks will be solid and hold down that position. I think if we got Mike Williams, it would change the whole dynamics of our team. Williams, along with Jake and Bell would bring our Offense back to (near) the level of our championship years. Put the fear back into the opposing defenses. Let them sweat for a change!!

[BroncoInferno]

Also, Lelie is more proven than any rookie receiver, and is still improving. Plus, there are still some teams leary about Williams, particularly after taking a year off.

It's unlikely at any rate, baja. I was just trying to think of assets that could net a high pick.

[baja]

Because they'd get an emerging receiver for a fraction of the cost that it will take to sign a top ten pick. If Red McCombs still owns the Vikings at draft time, I wouldn't put it past that cheap skate to go for a move that saves a buck. Also, some teams may prefer an explosive deep threat over a bigger possession guy.

If anyone is crazy enought to pass up MW for Ashley Lelie well that works for me. Watts is Ashley in waiting anyway.

[BroncoInferno]

If anyone is crasy enought to pass up MW for Ashley Lelie well that works for me. Watts is Ashley in waiting anyway.

There are reportedly still teams leary about Williams. For one thing, they aren't sure how much his year off will stunt his development. Plus, some teams are worried that his body is still growing and he'll get too big.

It also depends on what system a team runs. Chicago wants to run a system similar to the Rams "greatest show on turf" offense. Lelie probably fits in better with that style of offense than does Williams.

And, finally, the cheaper contract with two years remaining would be very attractive, particularly when you're still getting a very talented, still-improving player.

Once again, not likely to materalize...but if Shanny loves Williams as much as has been suggested, who knows? ???

[Play2win]

I don't want to get SoCal up in arms, but I can think of two players on our current roster who alone would fetch a top 10 pick: Ashley Lelie and DJ Williams. I can't see them moving DJ, but I could see them moving Ashley if Shanny is really as enamored with Mike Williams as rumor suggests. A team like Minnesota or Chicago looking to upgrade at receiver would get one of the games top deep threats--and who still has upside--with two remaining on a contract that would be cheaper than a top 10 pick. Not sure if I'd like this move (though I can take a wild guess at SoCal's response ;D), but just throwing it out there. I will say that, although I like Ashley a great deal, I think Williams will clearly be the better player, and suit our needs better. We need a first down machine who can kill in the red zone. Williams would instantly give us that. Plus, it would leave us with the 25th pick to upgrade defensively. Just thought I'd throw it out there. :poke:
I do definitely believe Mike Williams will be the better player between the two, BUT I was watching some footage from last year and I say a few time where ASH reminded me of Jerry Rice. It was where they had ASH go across the middle down the field alittle, like a medium slant. Jake actually got the ball to him in stride, and ASH angled and turned up field perfectly. It was really nice. It happened on a couple of different occassions, now we just need him to run routes like that more often.

Michael Clayton (rook for Tampa Bay) also did some stuff like that, and was very impressive. Maybe if we didn't already have ASH, Shanny would have pulled the trigger on that trade.

[Play2win]

If anyone is crazy enought to pass up MW for Ashley Lelie well that works for me. Watts is Ashley in waiting anyway.
I think Watts is going to be just STELLAR, hopefully this year, but if not, next year for sure. He's got all the making to be a great one. His hand are fine, I think he actually has real good hands, he just needs to get more confortable in the system. Plus, he's got great suddenness and is quick as a cat!!!

[BroncoInferno]

I do definitely believe Mike Williams will be the better player between the two, BUT I was watching some footage from last year and I say a few time where ASH reminded me of Jerry Rice. It was where they had ASH go across the middle down the field alittle, like a medium slant. Jake actually got the ball to him in stride, and ASH angled and turned up field perfectly. It was really nice. It happened on a couple of different occassions, now we just need him to run routes like that more often.

Michael Clayton (rook for Tampa Bay) also did some stuff like that, and was very impressive. Maybe if we didn't already have ASH, Shanny would have pulled the trigger on that trade.

Yeah, I definately agree that Lelie is very good and getting better. But I also agree with baja on Watts. Some people are impatient as always, and are down on Watts because he didn't catch 70 or 80 passes as a rookie. But he showed me enough to strongly believe that he'll be a big play threat. What we need is a big, strong first down making, red zone dominating machine. I don't see Lelie as that type of player, but Mike Williams will be, IMHO.

[Play2win]

Yeah, I definately agree that Lelie is very good and getting better. But I also agree with baja on Watts. Some people are impatient as always, and are down on Watts because he didn't catch 70 or 80 passes as a rookie. But he showed me enough to strongly believe that he'll be a big play threat. What we need is a big, strong first down making, red zone dominating machine. I don't see Lelie as that type of player, but Mike Williams will be, IMHO.
We're in agreement, I think Watts is going to be awesome. He's in my signature, after all.

And I am sure, by now, everybody know how I feal about Mike Williams. ;D

[Ratboy]

Stop with this Lelie trade talk. It's upsetting me.

[Play2win]

Stop with this Lelie trade talk. It's upsetting me.
O.K., then how many spots do you think we can move up if we Trade Willie Middlebrooks? :wiggle:

[elsid13]

Does anyone know who else we interviewed? As side notes, last year I don't think Denver talked to DJ before they picked him and Denver sometimes teams up with other franchise and share interview data.

[baja]

There are reportedly still teams leary about Williams. For one thing, they aren't sure how much his year off will stunt his development. Plus, some teams are worried that his body is still growing and he'll get too big.

It also depends on what system a team runs. Chicago wants to run a system similar to the Rams "greatest show on turf" offense. Lelie probably fits in better with that style of offense than does Williams.

And, finally, the cheaper contract with two years remaining would be very attractive, particularly when you're still getting a very talented, still-improving player.

Once again, not likely to materalize...but if Shanny loves Williams as much as has been suggested, who knows? ???

Your ponts are well taken Inferno.

BTW Good to see you posting here at the Mane I have always enjoyed reading your well thought out takes.

[Crushaholic]

I wouldn't have a problem with moving Walls to safety. I think he would do well in a limited coverage space. As far as moving up to #6 to get Rolle...I agree that there's nobody on our roster that would be attractive enough to get that done. I just don't feel good about mortgaging our future to get one guy that may or may not pan out.

[SoCalBronco]

I don't want to get SoCal up in arms, but I can think of two players on our current roster who alone would fetch a top 10 pick: Ashley Lelie and DJ Williams. I can't see them moving DJ, but I could see them moving Ashley if Shanny is really as enamored with Mike Williams as rumor suggests. A team like Minnesota or Chicago looking to upgrade at receiver would get one of the games top deep threats--and who still has upside--with two remaining on a contract that would be cheaper than a top 10 pick. Not sure if I'd like this move (though I can take a wild guess at SoCal's response ;D), but just throwing it out there. I will say that, although I like Ashley a great deal, I think Williams will clearly be the better player, and suit our needs better. We need a first down machine who can kill in the red zone. Williams would instantly give us that. Plus, it would leave us with the 25th pick to upgrade defensively. Just thought I'd throw it out there. :poke:

dont worry im not up in arms at the suggestion that this is something the front office might consider. I could see them doing that very thing. I have no faith in this front office to make competent judgments about anything. What would really bother me, besides the fact that the team would be getting rid of my favorite players, is that it isnt a great idea to move up in this particular draft. This draft flat out sucks. If they are going to screw me over they might as well do it in a draft that is actually halfway decent.

[SoCalBronco]

Rep whore!!! ;D

You knew you were getting rep for that one.

Hell, I don't care if we become the Denver Hurricanes, if it nets us another Superbowl championship. Just DRAFT MIKE WILLIAMS FIRST!!

I think if we made a commitment to select either 1 or 2 Hurricanes per year (given that we chose among them well), we would be in good shape to win a super bowl in a couple years. There are some supreme talents coming up in the next two to three years and many of them on the Defensive Line. The defensive line talent in 2005-2006 (and if they stay for their senior years 2007) is going to be unreal folks. Unreal. Especially guys like Rhyan Anderson and the black ted hendricks, Calais Campbell (a Colorado native).

[Play2win]

I think if we made a commitment to select either 1 or 2 Hurricanes per year (given that we chose among them well), we would be in good shape to win a super bowl in a couple years. There are some supreme talents coming up in the next two to three years and many of them on the Defensive Line. The defensive line talent in 2005-2006 (and if they stay for their senior years 2007) is going to be unreal folks. Unreal. Especially guys like Rhyan Anderson and the black ted hendricks, Calais Campbell (a Colorado native).
By the way, I was completely being serious. The amount of high level talent that is coming out of that program is crazy. And it seems over the last few years they're not as many punks, and more blue chipers, which is a very good sign.

Still hope USC wins the national title next year, tho ;D

[Rascal]

If we get Brown and cut Pryce we should be able to get one maybe two solid FA's and sign the guys we get in draft. Unless we just have a huge need and the person who fits that is available I honestly think we should trade down. Getting another first next year or two more seconds this year. Having no second day picks effectively eliminates any chances we have of moving up this year and this draft class isn't worth it anyway (Williams and Rolle being very costly exceptions).

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Does anyone know who else we interviewed? As side notes, last year I don't think Denver talked to DJ before they picked him and Denver sometimes teams up with other franchise and share interview data.

If memory serves me correctly each team gets 60 interviews at the combine. "Friendly" teams trade their interviews and testing results.

[Broncoman13]

How many INT's has Rolle had in the past two or three years at the U?

I'm not so sure Rolle is worth moving up for. Especially when you consider that Jones, Rogers, and Miller are all very talented CB's. From what I've been hearing Jones and Rogers have both moved ahead of Rolle in the CB list. Mark my words Rolle won't go until the late teens or early 20's. Not sure how good he would be at FS..... if we draft him I hope it's to play CB. I'm also hoping.... strongly hoping that we end up with Bullocks. That kid is a play maker. I told a lot of you guys that there are two very stronger play makers at FS in the BIG 12. Huff (UT, who isn't in the draft) and Bullocks. If we don't get Bullocks this year it will take a high first in next years draft to get Huff..... not losing much value by grabbing Bullocks this year.

As for trading Ash. He is one of my favorite Broncos..... that being said, chances are good that he goes for 1200-1500 yards this year and 10 TD's. Good for us this year, but he'll also be asking for 10 mil in bonus money and a big contract. If we're going to get value for him now is the time! I hope it doesn't happen, but I realize the truth of the situation.

[DBroncos4life]

How many INT's has Rolle had in the past two or three years at the U?

I'm not so sure Rolle is worth moving up for. Especially when you consider that Jones, Rogers, and Miller are all very talented CB's. From what I've been hearing Jones and Rogers have both moved ahead of Rolle in the CB list. Mark my words Rolle won't go until the late teens or early 20's. Not sure how good he would be at FS..... if we draft him I hope it's to play CB. I'm also hoping.... strongly hoping that we end up with Bullocks. That kid is a play maker. I told a lot of you guys that there are two very stronger play makers at FS in the BIG 12. Huff (UT, who isn't in the draft) and Bullocks. If we don't get Bullocks this year it will take a high first in next years draft to get Huff..... not losing much value by grabbing Bullocks this year.

As for trading Ash. He is one of my favorite Broncos..... that being said, chances are good that he goes for 1200-1500 yards this year and 10 TD's. Good for us this year, but he'll also be asking for 10 mil in bonus money and a big contract. If we're going to get value for him now is the time! I hope it doesn't happen, but I realize the truth of the situation.



I could live with either Bullocks and Rolle. As a NU guy I know about Bullocks. I trust that he will be a good FS in the NFL because he knows D's and he has a eye for the ball. Rolle is going to be a great player as well. Is he that much better then Bullocks? Its hard to say. Rolle is going in the first round and Bullocks isn't, so you have to look at the other guys picked to get the best value. If Denver walks out of the first round with Spears then gets Bullocks in the second that would be awsome, but if Denver walks out with Rolle and Patterson, or Castillo that would be just as good in my mind. The best thing that could happen is Denver lands both guys!!!

[Ratboy]

O.K., then how many spots do you think we can move up if we Trade Willie Middlebrooks? :wiggle:


What round?

In the 7th we could move up about 10 spots.

[ØrangeÇrush]

dont worry im not up in arms at the suggestion that this is something the front office might consider. I could see them doing that very thing. I have no faith in this front office to make competent judgments about anything. What would really bother me, besides the fact that the team would be getting rid of my favorite players, is that it isnt a great idea to move up in this particular draft. This draft flat out sucks. If they are going to screw me over they might as well do it in a draft that is actually halfway decent.

I wouldn't say this draft sucks. I'd say that its deep, but there aren't a lot of sure fire bluechippers. However, if you draft well, you're going to get players in the first 3 rounds, and quality contributors up to the 5th. This does suck for teams that have high picks because of the lack of star talent. Its just fine for us though.

Hmm...I just said that if a team drafted well....I forgot that this is the team that could have moved up in the 3rd and grabbed starks or even taken dockett in the 2nd and moved up from the third for watts.

[Play2win]

What round?

In the 7th we could move up about 10 spots.
Middlebrooks will be a key component to our team this year. IMHO

[frerottenextelway]

What do you think Watts, Droughns, and our 25 would pick up?

The 24th pick.

[baja]

I wouldn't say this draft sucks. I'd say that its deep, but there aren't a lot of sure fire bluechippers. However, if you draft well, you're going to get players in the first 3 rounds, and quality contributors up to the 5th. This does suck for teams that have high picks because of the lack of star talent. Its just fine for us though.

Hmm...I just said that if a team drafted well....I forgot that this is the team that could have moved up in the 3rd and grabbed starks or even taken dockett in the 2nd and moved up from the third for watts.

Can't remember the team but Watts would have been gone shortly after we took him, can't believe we did not take Starks by moving up in the 3rd.

I did not like the Bell pick either but it's starting to look like i was wrong on that.

[scorpio]

I just remember being totally confused that we didn't pick Stephen Jackson.

[Play2win]

Can't remember the team but Watts would have been gone shortly after we took him, can't believe we did not take Starks by moving up in the 3rd.

I did not like the Bell pick either but it's starting to look like i was wrong on that.
I wasn't too excited about the Bell pick either, I wanted Julius Jones, who would have been very good also. But, I am starting to believe BELL will have the best years as a pro of any RB in that draft. Part of that is because he's in the Prolific Denver Rushing Machine! ;D

[bilrob]

All this talk about Rolle, M Williams and moving up in the draft is junk. What the Broncos are really considering in MHO, is finishing up the DL before the draft. Money is what is needed, not Pryce. If we can make a deal with Dallas, great, but the probability of coming off with something real good is Nadda. Rabbit nailed the posibilities pretty good I think. With money, complete the C Brown deal, reisgn Ellis and call the DL finished. In the draft hope for a couple of players at #25 that might be there. Erasmus James, DE, or Elton Brown, OL. Consideration should also be given to Marcus Johnson, OL, and a couple of guys like David Bass and David Pollack. In the end game its still money!