Plummer reconfigured conctract, freeing up about $2 million in cap space..

[orangefred]

From todays RMN :

The team once again has reconfigured the contract of quarterback Jake Plummer, freeing up about $2 million in cap space and giving the Broncos a little more than $3 million in available room.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/broncos/article/0,1299,DRMN_17_3631594,00.html

[watermock]

Gotta be for Brown, or something under the tree. I seriously doubt it's for Herndon.

[CBF1]

Excellent news! Rep for you and a F-U for Trevor Pryce.

[TheManeMan]

I'd hope its more for Kelly than for Courtney...with these kinds of names you'd think it would be between 2 hot chicks...Ha!

[Atlas]

I'd hope its more for Kelly than for Courtney...with these kinds of names you'd think it would be hot chicks...Ha!

No way that is happening.

Herndan is not coming back for $3mil a year to play nickleback. Walls is going to make $1.4 mil next year if the Broncos bring back Herndan to back up Walls and he is making $2mil more than Walls I think Lenny would have a problem with that.

It ain't happening so brace yourself. Don't get upset when Kelly goes to Seattle. He was as good as gone the moment Denver gave Walls the nod over him.

[KillerBronco#76]

way to go plummer, did they actualy change the amount of money he is gonna get?

[Taco John]

Very big of Plummer. Shows some much needed leadership.

[eddie mac]

Was quite shocked that his initial restructuring only saved around $600 k, this is great news and gives us much needed room, this also indicates that they have no intentions of releasing TP without getting something in return.

Think Denver not signing Garcia had anything to do with it I wonder??

[BritBronco Maniac]

Thats exactly what I'm thinking, they are freeing up cap room so they can keep Trev if they don't get offered a decent trade
I think Washington are going to offer Brown the kind of money we really shouldn't match
How much cap room do they need for the draft or is that seperate?

[eddie mac]

Thats exactly what I'm thinking, they are freeing up cap room so they can keep Trev if they don't get offered a decent trade
I think Washington are going to offer Brown the kind of money we really shouldn't match
How much cap room do they need for the draft or is that seperate?

Giving the fact that unless they do trades they'll only have a late 1st, late 2nd, very late 4th, 6th and 7th picks, $2 mil would cover it.

IMO this money is either to offer Brown a deal or to fit Ellis Johnson in or 3rd choice Williams or Jasper. They wont need the draft pool money till around June anyway and if Trevor's traded there will be an additional $5.5 million freed up.

[baja]

Very big of Plummer. Shows some much needed leadership.

I wonder if they brought in someone to push him. :)

A guy named Vinnie maybe?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Plummer should sign a deal that subtracts 2 million from his yearly salary for every game in which he throws more INTs than TDs.

[-Slap-]

Classy move by Jake.

[clint7]

IMO this money is either to offer Brown a deal or to fit Ellis Johnson in or 3rd choice Williams or Jasper.

Getting Brown AND Ellis wouldn't make me an unhappy guy.

[Garcia Bronco]

Getting Brown AND Ellis wouldn't make me an unhappy guy.


That's a double negative

[fontaine]

That's a double negative

Which? Scraping the bottom of the barrel by signing Ellis and Brown, or not being unhappy?

[clint7]

That's a double negative

No, that's a double positive.

1) It would stop all the "Why Couldn't We Offer Him That Contract Too? That's Not Much!" threads.
2) It would allow all the "Why Did We Freakin' Sign That Waste?" threads to begin.

Double positive.

[Sir Mawn]

Classy Jake, classy. It's gotten to a point now where I'd be thrilled if we signed Courtney Brown.

[Rascal]

classy move jake. He may not be the best QB, but I'll take him.

[bronco militia]

From todays RMN :

The team once again has reconfigured the contract of quarterback Jake Plummer, freeing up about $2 million in cap space and giving the Broncos a little more than $3 million in available room.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/broncos/article/0,1299,DRMN_17_3631594,00.html

is that an old or wrong link? I don't see the part about Plummer freeing up more cash.

[BigPlayShay]

He may throw some dumb picks, but the freaking guy wants to win. I'm sorry, but I love the guy. Restructuring twice in the same offseason? Unheard of.

Now, let's hope Sundquist and Shanny do somehting good with it.

[eddie mac]

Which? Scraping the bottom of the barrel by signing Ellis and Brown, or not being unhappy?

Think that's quite unfair re: Ellis Johnson!!

[Rascal]

is that an old or wrong link? I don't see the part about Plummer freeing up more cash.

about 1/2 way down...


Yet, if the Broncos chose to do so, they now have sufficient space under the salary cap. The team once again has reconfigured the contract of quarterback Jake Plummer, freeing up about $2 million in cap space and giving the Broncos a little more than $3 million in available room.

[eddie mac]

is that an old or wrong link? I don't see the part about Plummer freeing up more cash.

Free-agent Herndon thinks green
Cornerback waits to see if Broncos match Seahawks' $15 million offer

By Lee Rasizer, Rocky Mountain News
March 18, 2005

Kelly Herndon was seeing emerald green Thursday and it had nothing to do with St. Patrick's Day.

The cornerback, still officially Denver Broncos property, was imagining himself in a Seattle Seahawks uniform, a prospect that could be only days away now that he has signed a five-year, $15 million offer sheet that includes a $3.6 million signing bonus and $900,000 base salary in 2005.

Herndon entered free agency hoping to land a starting job and he might be on the verge of getting that opportunity. The Seahawks, who lost Ken Lucas on the open market to the Carolina Panthers earlier this month, view Herndon as his possible replacement.

"Seattle has a great background," Herndon said. "They were a playoff team and they have a defense that gets after it."

Denver opted to give Lenny Walls, not Herndon, a first-round tender offer last month and was well aware it risked losing him. But the team's thinking then was that Walls was the better candidate to start opposite cornerback Champ Bailey and that, in a perfect world, they could retain Herndon to fill the nickel-back role.

Herndon has spoken with new Denver secondary coach Bob Slowik, who told the cornerback he would like to have him in the mix.

But that decision is in the front office's hands. The team has until Wednesday to match Seattle's offer.

Because Herndon was not drafted, the Broncos would get no draft-pick compensation if they refuse to match.

"I don't think they'll match a deal like that for a third corner," Herndon predicted.

Yet, if the Broncos chose to do so, they now have sufficient space under the salary cap. The team once again has reconfigured the contract of quarterback Jake Plummer, freeing up about $2 million in cap space and giving the Broncos a little more than $3 million in available room.

Herndon's first-year cap figure under terms of the new deal would be $1.62 million, costing the Broncos about $1 million more than the $656,000 tender that already is on the books.

Denver already has matched the previous restricted free- agent offer made to one of its players when the New York Jets made a run at tight end Jeb Putzier.

But instead of going to Herndon, the cap savings could be used to put together a competitive offer for defensive end Courtney Brown, who visited Denver earlier this week and is being pursued by the Washington Redskins.

Herndon hopes that is the case.

"That would be a difficult situation because right now my mind-set is that I'm getting better, I'm still young and I want to be on the field every play," he said. "I want an opportunity to make the Pro Bowl. That's tough to do in a nickel situation."

Herndon, 28, knows all about fighting through hard times. He was cut with regularity early in his pro career before drawing attention on the Broncos scout team. He worked his way from the practice squad into the playing rotation in 2002, then started 27 regular-season games and two playoff games the past two seasons. His 20 pass breakups led the Broncos in 2004.

No matter where he lands, the University of Toledo product's new deal will be by far his biggest NFL payday.

"With what I've been through, it shows that with hard work and perseverance you can still improve, and for me to get into a situation like this, it's definitely a high point in my career," Herndon said. "I couldn't be more elated. It's a blessing. I always knew I'd have to keep on working and my day would come, that if I could get that one opportunity to show what I could do, everything would work out. And that's how things went."

JASPER VISIT: Ed Jasper, a starter at defensive end for the Atlanta Falcons who was released Feb. 28, was slated to arrive at Denver on Thursday night and meet today with Broncos officials. Jasper, 32, had indicated he would retire after the season but had a change of heart.

There it is BM

[eddie mac]

about 1/2 way down...


Yet, if the Broncos chose to do so, they now have sufficient space under the salary cap. The team once again has reconfigured the contract of quarterback Jake Plummer, freeing up about $2 million in cap space and giving the Broncos a little more than $3 million in available room.

Would you be happier if this $$ was used on both Brown and Ellis Johnson Rascal as I know like most of us you've been quite frustrated by the lack of defensive line recruitment to date??

[fontaine]

Think that's quite unfair re: Ellis Johnson!!

I said which!

[Old Dude]

Great move by Jake.

I dunno about Brown. The Skins seem hell-bent to get him and they usually throw around money like there's no tomorrow. I know they don't have as much cap room as in past years, but that's still not a team I'd want to get in a bidding war with.

I'm not all that crazy about Brown, either. Great potential, but he's not quite there yet.

I don't see Herndon sticking around. Seattle gives him more money and an opportunity for more playing time.

Jake's move does give us a little more leverage with the Trevor Pryce situation. Hopefully, we won't be in a situation where we have to dump him without getting anything for it.

[Rascal]

It would be better then what we have which is nothing, although both have huge question marks regarding their health.

What we need to do is to hurry up and decide what's going to happen with Pryce.

[Jason in LA]

They better not match Herndon's deal. That's boat load of money for a nickel back. What are the Seahawks thinking?

Props to Herndon for getting the deal though. It's bad for the team, but it's great for his pocket. I hope he gets to see a good portion of it, just not from the Broncos.

[fontaine]

Great move by Jake.

I dunno about Brown. The Skins seem hell-bent to get him and they usually throw around money like there's no tomorrow. I know they don't have as much cap room as in past years, but that's still not a team I'd want to get in a bidding war with.

I'm not all that crazy about Brown, either. Great potential, but he's not quite there yet.

Yup. I know some may be a bit skeptical about Pryce returning to form even though he's healthy and cleared to play but Brown hasn't played a full 16 games, well since his rookie season in '00 and he's had multiple injuries to his knees and now feet.

[bronco militia]

thanks guys...

[TheDave]

Great move by Jake.

I dunno about Brown. The Skins seem hell-bent to get him and they usually throw around money like there's no tomorrow. I know they don't have as much cap room as in past years, but that's still not a team I'd want to get in a bidding war with.

I'm not all that crazy about Brown, either. Great potential, but he's not quite there yet.

I don't see Herndon sticking around. Seattle gives him more money and an opportunity for more playing time.

Jake's move does give us a little more leverage with the Trevor Pryce situation. Hopefully, we won't be in a situation where we have to dump him without getting anything for it.

Honestly after thinking about it.... If i was shanny, and knowing what i do about the situation (which is next to nothing), it's time to kiss and make up with pryce... Redo his contract give him a little something extra up front, and get him back (no pun intended) in the fold. With him in there i think our d-line is significantly better than last years. Time to get rid of the egos and get the man back into the program.

[HEAV]

Very big of Plummer. Shows some much needed leadership.


Amazing how Jake keeps stepping up and helping the team, but Pyrce won't change his deal.

Jake has always been a leader. It's just he can be rough around the egde's! Kinda like myself! Must be why I like him so much!

Brown is getting the major love treatment from the Skins, plus they have his boy La Var Arrignton talking to him daily. Not sure is that will pull him to sign and re-live Penn State days.

I'd be really surprised to see the Broncos match the Herndon deal. Kelly want's to start and Mike is in love with Walls.

It could be that Coach has finally decide on his plan and is ready to get things started. I have heard that after the earlier failures in F.A. that he and Sund went into hidding and rethought the plan of attack. Which is way they made the decision to talk Cooper back to Denver.

Still might be a surprise O-Gaurd out there also.

[Broncoblood]

Jake has had some dissapointments, but this is not one, great job, the guy is doing the right things for the team.

[Rascal]

Looks like we didn't even make an offer to Brown..

Brown made his first visit with the Denver Broncos on Tuesday and Wednesday. According to a source, Denver -- which has about $1 million under the cap compared with Washington's roughly $2 million -- didn't make a firm offer.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45186-2005Mar17.html

[fontaine]

Amazing how Jake keeps stepping up and helping the team, but Pyrce won't change his deal.

Jake has always been a leader. It's just he can be rough around the egde's! Kinda like myself! Must be why I like him so much!

Brown is getting the major love treatment from the Skins, plus they have his boy La Var Arrignton talking to him daily.


they also signed his cousin Prioleau recently. Talk about resorting to filthy bar room brawl tactics.

It's ok with me though. I don't want Brown in here. Much rather keep Pryce who is less of an injury risk.

[REB]

I was annoyed with Jake's mistakes/Int's last season but ya gotta love the unselfish attitude he's showing. He does want to win no doubt and hopefully this will help a little and he can cut down on the mistakes next season.

REB

1-2-3-BRONCOS!!!!!!!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Here's Plummer doing a little more "restructuring:"

Perhaps not work-safe!



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/SwedeCarlson/Funnies/contract.gif

[Meck77]

Which Raider fan was it the other day who said "Shanny hasn't been able to get anybody to restructure?"

Right on Jake.

[bronco militia]

wow Barb...talk about a perfect application for a couple of months off at the mane

[REB]

Bob that is so wrong. Funny as hell but so wrong. :)

REB

1-2-3-BRONCOS!!!!!!!

[REB]

Just for that...

[NaptownChief]

What kind of cap savings would you guys get if Plummer started paying Denver $500,000 a year to allow him to play like he should?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Just for that...

That's pretty lame...you guys haven't won at Arrowhead since 2002, and rarely before that.

[Spider]

I sure hope Bob doesnt view his Picture of Bowlen and Plummer as a fantasy .. that would be disturbing , Not that there is anything Wrong with Gay porn .......

[Ray Finkle]

That's pretty lame...you guys haven't won at Arrowhead since 2002, and rarely before that.


True but the Broncos won there when it mattered (97 season ring a bell)....

[SouthStndJunkie]

Way to be a team player Jake. Even the Jake haters have to respect that.

SSJ

[Broncobuddy7]

Classy move by Jake.

I completely agree!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

True but the Broncos won there when it mattered (97 season ring a bell)....

Get in a ****ing time machine then.

[RaiderH8r]

Here's Plummer doing a little more "restructuring:"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/SwedeCarlson/Funnies/contract.gif
Funny, I thought that was you trying to convince Peterson to trade for Surtain.

[RaiderH8r]

Get in a ****ing time machine then.
Speaking of time machine's, maybe you should go blow Hank Stramm, it's been awhile since you guys saw a decent SB run.

[Bronx33]

Very big of Plummer. Shows some much needed leadership.



Well put and right on the money...........

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Funny, I thought that was you trying to convince Peterson to trade for Surtain.

Whatever it takes. I'm a true fan.

[ro_50]

That was a funny pic Bob. Make one of Vermeil and Gunther, that would be priceless.

[RaiderH8r]

Whatever it takes. I'm a true fan.
The desparation shows....

[alkemical]

Glad to see people giving jake props for this move.

[TheManeMan]

No way that is happening.

Herndan is not coming back for $3mil a year to play nickleback. Walls is going to make $1.4 mil next year if the Broncos bring back Herndan to back up Walls and he is making $2mil more than Walls I think Lenny would have a problem with that.

It ain't happening so brace yourself. Don't get upset when Kelly goes to Seattle. He was as good as gone the moment Denver gave Walls the nod over him.


Neither of us know where the money Plummer saved Denver is going to go...To come out and say that its not for Kelly HERNDON right off the back, is kinda ludicrous...WE have NO IDEA whats going on in the Broncos Front Office...Why would it be so surprising to re-sign Herndon?...I dont like his game and what not, I do like Walls more but, honestly Walls and Middlebrooks are probably the 2 most injury prone players in the secondary...I'd hate to see a CB bounce from the roster because that just means Roc will be on the field a lot more...anyway, lets just hope that the money is for something that will benefit the team, rather than signing Jason F'N Baker...

[-Slap-]

Glad to see people giving jake props for this move.

SouthStndJunkie: Way to be a team player Jake. Even the Jake haters have to respect that.

While there were definitely Griese haters, I really don't think the term is applicable in Jake's case. I believe everybody here wants to love the guy, but some of us are less forgiving (or more realistic) of his shortcomings than others.

[Spider]

While there were definitely Griese haters, I really don't think the term is applicable in Jake's case. I believe everybody here wants to love the guy, but some of us are less forgiving (or more realistic) of his shortcomings than others.
;D Jake does have some short commings no question , But what I like about Jake is the excitement he has brought back to Broncos Football , with Griese , we are 10 points down , Pretty much figure the Game over , With Jake you just dont know , whats going ot happen ...... It is the excitement , that I like

[elsid13]

Yeah, let’s sign more punters. Never can have enough punters....

[Spider]

Yeah, let’s sign more punters. Never can have enough punters....
with the punters we have now .... we could punt three times in a row and net 42 yards

[elsid13]

with the punters we have now .... we could punt three times in a row and net 42 yards

in practice or during a game??

[-Slap-]

;D Jake does have some short commings no question , But what I like about Jake is the excitement he has brought back to Broncos Football , with Griese , we are 10 points down , Pretty much figure the Game over , With Jake you just dont know , whats going ot happen ...... It is the excitement , that I like

Of course, Jake can make the games when we're ten points up a little too exciting sometimes.......:)

[Spider]

in practice or during a game??
anytime .... Point is the Punters we have now suck .....

[Spider]

Of course, Jake can make the games when we're ten points up a little too exciting sometimes.......:)
;D yeah Jake does ......

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

anytime .... Point is the Punters we have now suck .....

I bet we see an entire parade of punters before the opening game. Will be like the scene in Fantasia with punting piggies in their tutu's parading around the field.

[Atlas]

Here's Plummer doing a little more "restructuring:"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/SwedeCarlson/Funnies/contract.gif

that's pretty amazing. I'm suprised it hasn't been taken off yet.

[wabbit]

I bet we see an entire parade of punters before the opening game. Will be like the scene in Fantasia with punting piggies in their tutu's parading around the field.

Not so sure about the tutu's & all, but you have to believe that Baker will be pushed...and hopefully replaced by someone who can kick it slightly beyond the line of scrimmage with a hang time slightly slower than a 9 mm

Would help the defense a tad I think

[Ratboy]

Plummer helps the team out big time. I'm not suprised he did this either. He's classy and He wants to win a superbowl before his time is up and freeing up more cap space to sign another player is a step in the right direction.

Now only if we can trade up and draft Mike Williams, Plummer might have VERY impressive stats.

[wabbit]

[QUOTE=RTribbey
...Now only if we can trade up and draft Mike Williams, Plummer might have VERY impressive stats.[/QUOTE]

Some mock drafts have Williams going as high as the 3rd selection

It would take a little more than the 3 arrows & a pretty good lookin' squaw the Broncos have available

[SoCalBronco]

[QUOTE=RTribbey
...Now only if we can trade up and draft Mike Williams, Plummer might have VERY impressive stats.

Some mock drafts have Williams going as high as the 3rd selection

It would take a little more than the 3 arrows & a pretty good lookin' squaw the Broncos have available[/QUOTE]

good. im glad we dont have enough ammo for shanny to screw us over. This is the sole blessing in disguise that comes about from that hole of draft picks in the middle.

[REB]

While there were definitely Griese haters, I really don't think the term is applicable in Jake's case. I believe everybody here wants to love the guy, but some of us are less forgiving (or more realistic) of his shortcomings than others.

Yep! and we'll see if this comes true... I hope so

REB

1-2-3-BRONCOS!!!!!!!

[Ratboy]

good. im glad we dont have enough ammo for shanny to screw us over. This is the sole blessing in disguise that comes about from that hole of draft picks in the middle.

True.

Thinking about it would make more sense to trade down and pick up a First rounder next year and a 2nd this year.

Next year is the year to draft a Defensive Line.

[labronx]

Which Raider fan was it the other day who said "Shanny hasn't been able to get anybody to restructure?"

Right on Jake.
Max

[watermock]

I am pleased Jake redid his contract, but obviously, this wasn't the plan or fly by wire as it seems. It's not that big a deal. It's not like he's taking a cut or anything. If anything, it probably guarantees even more money in the form of a signing bonus and converts salary. He's not losing squat. It's just pushing it backwards. I don't know the details of it, but he's got some pretty big cap numbers in a few years down the road, and that issue will come up if he struggles. All this really did was lock Jake up tighter as the QB for the foreseable future. So don't shed any tears for Jake.

I blame this on Pryce. He's allowed to seek a trade, and according to sources, has done nothing but sit on his ass including his agent. Well, so be it. Looks like "the plan" has changed, and Pryce is more than happy to eat up money. He knows, his agent knows, and we know that his value is questionable coming off that injury. He's going to have to play thru this year to get another big contract. I can understand Pryce's feelings as well.

One thing that confuses me is how this all got out in public so early. Why does the press have to know squat. Rumors are fine, but till Moss was traded, he was not for sale. Teams are shying away and cap money is drying up.

When Bowlen says Pryce is essentially a free agent, you have to wonder why he is saying that!

[Pendejo]

Very big of Plummer. Shows some much needed leadership.

I think that Jake just wants to win. He understands that he's made a lot of scratch playing football...and now he's after the trophy.

You can fairly say that he regressed last year (His decision making)...especially in the red zone. But from what I can tell he's always been a team guy. Almost everyone "likes" him...but gawd dammit he makes you pull your hair out sometimes...

He's entertaining as hell though.

[baja]

Sophomore jinx - he'll be awesome this season when the light goes on reading defenses and finding the open guy. Lelie Putz and Watts will all be better and watch out if by some miracle we get Mike Williams.

[Circle Orange]

No, the Broncs are taking their percentage back...http://scosoft.com/s/l/785041bc.gif

Do the math...

$6 mil...complete confidence
$4 mil...rattled
$2 mil...thin ice
$1 mil-$500 grand...catch the bus

Yes, it all adds up. http://scosoft.com/s/Action/706bf6a8.gif

[eddie mac]

I am pleased Jake redid his contract, but obviously, this wasn't the plan or fly by wire as it seems. It's not that big a deal. It's not like he's taking a cut or anything. If anything, it probably guarantees even more money in the form of a signing bonus and converts salary. He's not losing squat. It's just pushing it backwards. I don't know the details of it, but he's got some pretty big cap numbers in a few years down the road, and that issue will come up if he struggles. All this really did was lock Jake up tighter as the QB for the foreseable future. So don't shed any tears for Jake.

I blame this on Pryce. He's allowed to seek a trade, and according to sources, has done nothing but sit on his ass including his agent. Well, so be it. Looks like "the plan" has changed, and Pryce is more than happy to eat up money. He knows, his agent knows, and we know that his value is questionable coming off that injury. He's going to have to play thru this year to get another big contract. I can understand Pryce's feelings as well.

One thing that confuses me is how this all got out in public so early. Why does the press have to know squat. Rumors are fine, but till Moss was traded, he was not for sale. Teams are shying away and cap money is drying up.

When Bowlen says Pryce is essentially a free agent, you have to wonder why he is saying that!

Too true.

Trevor knows damn well that no other team is gonna pay him anywhere near that $6.5 million base salary and with his back still questionable he wouldn't get much of a signing bonus if he was released and was picked up elsewhere. IMO this situation is not doing anything for the franchise at the minute and Denver should cut their losses and get rid of him unless he's prepared to sit down and negotiate a settlement that is fair to both parties given his current circumstances!! This is the NFL Trevor and you're only as good as your last season in which you made $5.35 million in base salary alone and did jack-**** for it. You owe Denver not the other way around!!

[eddie mac]

The only way we get Williams will be if he's deemed ineligible again this year and we finish 0-16 in 2005!!

[labronx]

Too true.

Trevor knows damn well that no other team is gonna pay him anywhere near that $6.5 million base salary and with his back still questionable he wouldn't get much of a signing bonus if he was released and was picked up elsewhere. IMO this situation is not doing anything for the franchise at the minute and Denver should cut their losses and get rid of him unless he's prepared to sit down and negotiate a settlement that is fair to both parties given his current circumstances!! This is the NFL Trevor and you're only as good as your last season in which you made $5.35 million in base salary alone and did jack-**** for it. You owe Denver not the other way around!!
The thing becomes is how much do we really save in cutting him know or June1st as appossed to letting him play next year.?


I think if we only save maybe a mil and a half then keep him unless the situation really get unbearable.

[Clockwork Orange]

The thing becomes is how much do we really save in cutting him know or June1st as appossed to letting him play next year.?


I think if we only save maybe a mil and a half then keep him unless the situation really get unbearable.

I believe that Herc said that cutting Pryce after June 1st will be no different then cutting him now.

[eddie mac]

I believe that Herc said that cutting Pryce after June 1st will be no different then cutting him now.

Think the difference would be approx $2 million or so as his $4 million in dead money would be split over 2 years instead of just this season.

[Play2win]

I wonder if we could cut him in August. Or maybe september. And see if there is anyway we can screw him, like he is screwing us. I know there's alot of Cap ramifications, but at this point it sure would be nice to screw Trevor out of a year with the way he's been acting. Teams would definitely think twice, if he'd been basically out of the League for two years, over 30 and just coming off serious back surgery. I'm sorry, but Pryce has been a loser with the way he has dealt with this situation.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I believe that Herc said that cutting Pryce after June 1st will be no different then cutting him now.

No I said it was idiotic (or something along those lines) to cut him after June 1 when the extra $1.whatever Mil in savings they get over a pre-June 1 cut wouldn't be used this year anyways and it just puts dead money on next year's cap unnecessarily.

[Atlas]

Neither of us know where the money Plummer saved Denver is going to go...To come out and say that its not for Kelly HERNDON right off the back, is kinda ludicrous...WE have NO IDEA whats going on in the Broncos Front Office...Why would it be so surprising to re-sign Herndon?...I dont like his game and what not, I do like Walls more but, honestly Walls and Middlebrooks are probably the 2 most injury prone players in the secondary...I'd hate to see a CB bounce from the roster because that just means Roc will be on the field a lot more...anyway, lets just hope that the money is for something that will benefit the team, rather than signing Jason F'N Baker...

I know for a fact that Denver isn't going to pay their nickle back twice as much as their starting CB. If the do resign Herndan then they'll have to give Walls a new contract. That is the nature of the beast.

[HEAV]

No I said it was idiotic (or something along those lines) to cut him after June 1 when the extra $1.whatever Mil in savings they get over a pre-June 1 cut wouldn't be used this year anyways and it just puts dead money on next year's cap unnecessarily.


That's why if he isn't trade during the weekend of the draft he'll be cut the monday after. Clearing cap room for the rookie pool and June1 free agent shopping.

[Drek]

I wonder if we could cut him in August. Or maybe september. And see if there is anyway we can screw him, like he is screwing us. I know there's alot of Cap ramifications, but at this point it sure would be nice to screw Trevor out of a year with the way he's been acting. What? Talk about acting like a spiteful child. Pryce hasn't done anything to screw us, we offered the contract, he signed it. If we don't want to pay him we have the right to cut him, but there's no need to be assholes about it. He doesn't owe us anything and vice versa, thats how the NFL works in player/owner relationships. Guys aren't required, and shouldn't be expected, to restructure at their team's request. I for one wish the NFL's collective bargaining agreement didn't allow for it because it lets ownership lean on players who underperform after signing a big deal, even if that lack of production is owed to injury, a bad team, or just bad luck.

[TheManeMan]

I know for a fact that Denver isn't going to pay their nickle back twice as much as their starting CB. If the do resign Herndan then they'll have to give Walls a new contract. That is the nature of the beast.

The nickle back who started how many games last year? Anyway, I agree they shouldnt pay out that much to HERNDON...but, I'm not going to rule out the fact that he could re-signed by Denver, right off the back...

[Maximus]

Which Raider fan was it the other day who said "Shanny hasn't been able to get anybody to restructure?"

Right on Jake.

I asked how many the rat restructured so far... This is funny, the plan is a day late and a dollar short...

[Clockwork Orange]

I asked how many the rat restructured so far... This is funny, the plan is a day late and a dollar short...

Actually this is the 2nd time Plummer has restructured this offseason. Rod Smith, Tom Nalen & Matt Lepsis restructured over a month ago. Try again.

But congrats to Crypt Keeper Al on executing his plan of turning the Fade into the west coast version of KC.

[Maximus]

Actually this is the 2nd time Plummer has restructured this offseason. Rod Smith, Tom Nalen & Matt Lepsis restructured over a month ago. Try again.

But congrats to Crypt Keeper Al on executing his plan of turning the Fade into the west coast version of KC.

Yeah, I know it's the second time he restructured... Ratboy should have got it done right the first time. Most of the best FA's are gone now so the money is probably going to the big crybaby ( Pryce ). Any player with half a brain would take money up front if the benefits of doing so were explained...

I asked the question in relation to pryce on the other thread but, I was crazy... now the ratfaced genious makes a real restructure attempt... and all you homers think the rat is on the job Ha!

Call Davis what you want... He always makes moves to improve the team... Ehem Rob Konrad!

[Clockwork Orange]

Call Davis what you want... He always makes moves to improve the team... Ehem Rob Konrad!

Rob Konrad!?! Whoooooooo!! Start planning the parade! ;D