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enjolras
03-09-2005, 11:15 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7137552/

It's time our governments, across the nation, get their heads out of their collective asses and fix these issues.

alkemical
03-09-2005, 11:27 AM
Not to pull a mock....

but i've said we need to upgrade the power grid (it will help efficiency too) - the black out in the n/e a bit back is evidence of that - and pa roads just flat out suck.

I guess we should cut the no child left behind act to pay for some of this.....

RaiderH8r
03-09-2005, 11:29 AM
Not to pull a mock....

but i've said we need to upgrade the power grid (it will help efficiency too) - the black out in the n/e a bit back is evidence of that - and pa roads just flat out suck.

I guess we should cut the no child left behind act to pay for some of this.....
good luck getting power lines and stations cited, permitted, and through the reg process within the next 20 years. I feel where you're coming from, but it won't happen in less than 20 years....barring catastrophe. We could cut the entire department of ed altogether. That place is a failure.

alkemical
03-09-2005, 11:32 AM
good luck getting power lines and stations cited, permitted, and through the reg process within the next 20 years. I feel where you're coming from, but it won't happen in less than 20 years....barring catastrophe. We could cut the entire department of ed altogether. That place is a failure.


Well, i'm torn on Education. Part of me feels we need public schools - but part of me wonders of schools should just be charter run (but then, do you open up a bigger door of haves & have-nots?)

It could be done in less time, if we stop pretending we are finding WMD's in the sand.

Bronco_Beerslug
03-09-2005, 11:59 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7137552/

It's time our governments, across the nation, get their heads out of their collective asses and fix these issues.

Can't fix things at home when you're spending all your money nation building.

The lowest? D- for drinking water, navigable waterways and wastewater.
Bush's record is horrible when it comes to cleaning things up! Handling sewage and having clean drinking water doesn't fit in with giving corporations a pass on environmental responsibilities in the name of profits.

enjolras
03-09-2005, 12:14 PM
The hot button for me is transit. I travel quite a bit as part of my job, and I'm absolutely appalled at our infrastructure in our cities when compared to other places in the world. Hong Kong, Tokyo, Stockholm... all of these sport roads and mass transit systems LIGHT YEARS ahead of our own. We drive more than anyone else because our roads are 20 years overdue from major improvements.

It's so apparent here ni Dallas (As it is Denver for that matter). What's really frusturating is that we have a ton of exciting mass transit options that simply aren't being explored. Our government (at the federal level) is not funding R&D into new mass transit options. There are proposals that are drastically more useful than light rail (an absolutely horrible investment for any city), but we simply aren't developing those.

alkemical
03-09-2005, 12:28 PM
The hot button for me is transit. I travel quite a bit as part of my job, and I'm absolutely appalled at our infrastructure in our cities when compared to other places in the world. Hong Kong, Tokyo, Stockholm... all of these sport roads and mass transit systems LIGHT YEARS ahead of our own. We drive more than anyone else because our roads are 20 years overdue from major improvements.

It's so apparent here ni Dallas (As it is Denver for that matter). What's really frusturating is that we have a ton of exciting mass transit options that simply aren't being explored. Our government (at the federal level) is not funding R&D into new mass transit options. There are proposals that are drastically more useful than light rail (an absolutely horrible investment for any city), but we simply aren't developing those.


I support light rail out here where i'm at, due to the existing rail setup -

Do you think that PT should be tailored to each individual market? (I do, i think the 'market' would dictate a good solution)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
03-09-2005, 06:19 PM
Can't fix things at home when you're spending all your money nation building.

Yep...

...Let alone spending all your money on nation building and on one huge tax cut after another to the wealthiest Americans during a time of war.

Nation building, BTW, is another thing the flip-flopper in chief claimed to oppose during the 2000 campaigns.

enjolras
03-09-2005, 07:42 PM
I think we need to be pursuing more general purpose mass transit systems. There are a couple in the works that work more like subways (generally monorails actually). You show up at a station, put in a card, enter a destination and a computer routes a 'car' to you. It carries you to your destination and off you go. Since it's relatively inexpensive (it requires a small monorail) to build and can be extended throughout existing infrastructure it makes a WHOLE lot of sense.

Yet we're not really doing much to pursue these types of innovations. Instead we keep pumping money into very narrow solutions such as light rail. It's great if both ends of your journey are on the line.. othwerise it's rather pointless.

RaiderH8r
03-09-2005, 07:51 PM
I think we need to be pursuing more general purpose mass transit systems. There are a couple in the works that work more like subways (generally monorails actually). You show up at a station, put in a card, enter a destination and a computer routes a 'car' to you. It carries you to your destination and off you go. Since it's relatively inexpensive (it requires a small monorail) to build and can be extended throughout existing infrastructure it makes a WHOLE lot of sense.

Yet we're not really doing much to pursue these types of innovations. Instead we keep pumping money into very narrow solutions such as light rail. It's great if both ends of your journey are on the line.. othwerise it's rather pointless.
We need to get the scientists working on the tube technology.