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alkemical
03-03-2005, 12:22 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/discoveries/2005-03-03-hobbit-brain_x.htm

Virtual model of 'Hobbit' brain points to separate species
By Joseph B. Verrengia, Associated Press
Scientists working with powerful imaging computers say the spectacular "Hobbit" fossil recently discovered in Indonesia had distinctive brain features that could justify its classification as a separate — and tiny — human ancestor.

The new report, published Thursday in the online journal Science Express, seems to support the idea of a human dwarf species marooned for eons while modern man spread across the planet. Detractors of the theory, however, said the computer models were unconvincing.

The new research produced a computer-generated model that compared surface impressions on the inside of the fossil skull with brain casts of modern and ancient humans, as well as chimps and other primates. The scientists said the model shows that the 3-foot specimen, nicknamed Hobbit, had a brain unlike anything they had seen before in recent human lineage. The brain is chimplike in size, between 380 and 420 cubic centimeters.

Despite being up to two-thirds smaller than a modern human brain, the Hobbit fossil's brain shared wrinkled surface features with the brains of both modern humans and Homo erectus, tool-making human ancestors that lived more than 1 million years ago, the researchers said. Some of those features are consistent with higher cognitive traits, they report.

At the same time, they said the Hobbit brain was different from the brain of a modern human pygmy or a human with abnormal brain growth.

"This is something new," said Florida State University anthropologist Dean Falk, who led the study. "This discovery has flummoxed the field of anthropology."

In October, scientists from Indonesia and Australia caused an international sensation with their report of a trove of fossils found in a cave on the equatorial island of Flores. As many as seven tiny individuals were represented by the bones in layers that were dated from 95,000 to 12,000 years ago. The Hobbit skeleton was the most complete specimen to be described.

Falk and researchers from Washington University in St. Louis took three-dimensional CT scans of the interior of the Hobbit's skull. Known as virtual endocasts, these computer-manipulated images show the wrinkles, vessels and other surface features that made faint impressions on the skull's lining.

They compared that model with latex casts of the brains of chimps, a female Homo erectus, a contemporary woman, a pygmy and a European specimen of a person with a small-brain syndrome known as microcephaly.

Scientists say its brain shape reflects some features of modern humans, such as an expanded temporal lobe in the front and a fissure near the back of the brain known as the lunate sulcus, similarly found in the modern human brain.

The bones found in the cave were accompanied by sophisticated tools and evidence of firepits, suggesting an organized society of tiny hunters that flourished on the island for millennia at a time when modern humans dominated the planet.

Other human evolution specialists were split over the new report.

Katerina Semendeferi of the University of California-San Diego described it as a "cutting edge study." While the Hobbit brain does not fit neatly into an evolutionary pattern, she said it is too much to expect that all ancient humans would have brains that would neatly transition from ape to modern human.

"There is increasing evidence that white matter and interconnectivity may be a critical component of human cognitive abilities," she said.

But some other researchers dismissed the brain-scan study as "trivial." They are sticking to their opinion that the Hobbit probably suffered from a form of microcephaly, a condition in which the brain fails to grow at a normal rate, resulting in a small head with a large face, and even dwarfism.

What it is not, says primatologist Robert Martin, provost of the Field Museum in Chicago, is a scaled-down version of a Homo erectus or a new transitional species that held on for millennia in tropical isolation.

That's because Homo erectus had a brain size of more than 1,000 cubic centimeters, nearly as large as modern humans. Brain size cannot simply be scaled down to fit a body size, he said.


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GloryMule
03-03-2005, 02:12 PM
Interesting....

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Science/Hobbit-just-a-little-man-with-small-brain/2005/02/18/1108709439138.html?oneclick=true

'Hobbit' just a little man with small brain
By Deborah Smith, Science Editor
February 19, 2005

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A scientist under fire for examining the so-called hobbit bones says the priceless remains will be returned to the Australian and Indonesian team that discovered them on Monday.

In a development that could spark another international scientific furore, Maciej Henneberg , of the Department of Anatomical Sciences at the University of Adelaide, also said about two grams of bone fragments from the tiny humans had been sent from Indonesia to the Max Planck Institute in Germany for DNA analysis.

Professor Henneberg dismissed criticism from Australian scientists that he should not have studied the remains while they were in the disputed possession of an Indonesian scientist, Teuku Jacob.

He said his 3-day examination of the skull and bones of the most complete specimen of Homo floresiensis had confirmed his opinion that it was not a "hobbit", but a modern human with a brain-shrinking deformity called microcephaly. "There is absolutely no doubt this person had a growth disorder."

Iain Davidson, professor of archaeology and palaeoanthropology at the University of New England, told the Herald on Thursday that he was extremely concerned Professor Henneberg and Alan Thorne, of the Australian National University, had examined the bones after Professor Jacob seized them.

"No scientist should have any truck with stolen remains," Professor Davidson said.

Professor Mike Morwood, of the University of New England, the leader of the team that found the remains of seven "hobbits" on the Indonesian island of Flores in 2003 and 2004, and Professor Peter Brown, also of the University of New England, who described the new species of humans, are also furious about the actions of the two Australian researchers.

The bones were taken last December before they had been studied by the discovery team and any DNA extracted.

Professor Jacob, of Gadjah Mada University in Yogyakarta, reneged on an agreement to return them by January 1.

Professor Henneberg and Dr Thorne said they disagreed with Professor Morwood that Professor Jacob's actions had breached a legal agreement between the Australian and Indonesian research institutes.

They said the head of the Indonesian team, Professor Radien Soejono, had had the right to ask Professor Jacob's opinion, and he, in turn, theirs.

"Had Morwood had the sense to realise the national, intellectual and historical importance of Jacob, this whole mess might not have eventuated," Dr Thorne said.

alkemical
03-04-2005, 09:11 AM
if this is a different race of humans, it would be pretty exciting IMO

GloryMule
03-10-2005, 09:40 AM
Finally rented "Fraility" on your recommendation.

JPEZ
03-10-2005, 09:47 AM
Come on people!!
I'm waiting for the Shanny/hobbit comparisons!!??
Little man with a little brain!!?? :wiggle:

alkemical
03-10-2005, 10:04 AM
Finally rented "Fraility" on your recommendation.


Glory Mule,

Sorry for responding late -

Did you like it?

I thought it was done really well - for a movie from liberal, usa :)

GloryMule
03-14-2005, 09:07 AM
Glory Mule,
Sorry for responding late -
Did you like it?
I thought it was done really well - for a movie from liberal, usa :)

Yea it was a trip. Definitely shows that there is an evil out there working against God's perfect plan of love. Left me with a feeling of darkness and gloom. Thanks to God for the light of his Son.

alkemical
03-14-2005, 02:05 PM
Yea it was a trip. Definitely shows that there is an evil out there working against God's perfect plan of love. Left me with a feeling of darkness and gloom. Thanks to God for the light of his Son.


After hanging with the krisna's - i learned that their definition of 'demon' was just someone that was really bad.