The Mane's NFL Latest Free Agent Rumor and Deals Thread

[Pezman]

Since there seems to be an overwhelming amount of speculation and rumors running all over the league and the board about some of the big name free agents, I thought we could create a thread to sort through some of the many rumors and signings that are now taking place across the league.
(Special Thanks to Heav07 for the hard work and great updates in contributing to the news)

Feel free to add in any news and I'll try to update it as often as possible. (Mods, feel free to edit as well)

We'll start with

The facts
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Joe Andruzzi , G - Signed with the Cleveland Browns

Derrick Blaylock , RB - Signed with the NY Jets

Correll Buckhalter , RB - Resigned with Philadephia Eagles

Leonardo Carson , DL - Resigned with the Dallas Cowboys

Dexter Coakley , LB - Signed with the St. Louis Rams

Hugh Douglas , DE - Resigned with Philadephia Eagles

Jason Ferguson , DT - Signed with the Dallas Cowboys

Ian Gold , LB - Signed with your Denver Broncos - five-year deal worth $22.5 million

Morlon Greenwood , LB - Signed with the Houston Texans

Reggie Hayward , DT - Signed with the Jacksonville Jaguars

Anthony Henry , CB - Signed with the Dallas Cowboys

T.J. Houshmandzadeh , WR - Resigned with the Cincinnati Bengals

Jonas Jennings , LT - Signed with the San Fran 49ers

Rudi Johnson , RB - Resigned with the Cincinnati Bengals

LaMont Jordan , RB - Signed with the Oakland Raiders

Bhawoh Jue , S - Signed with the San Diego Chargers

Ken Lucas , CB - Signed with the Carolina Panthers

Derrick Mason , WR - Signed with the Baltimore Ravens

Randy Moss , WR - Traded to the Oakland Raiders - From Minnesota

Seth Payne , DT - Resigned with the Houston Texans

Antonio Pierce , LB - Signed with the NY Giants

Casey Rabach , C/G - Signed with the Washington Redskins

Marco Rivera , G - Signed with the Dallas Cowboys

Lynn Scott , S - Resigned with the Dallas Cowboys

Jeremiah Trotter , LB - Signed with the Philadephia Eagles

Mike Wahle , G-T - Signed with the Carolina Panthers

Bracy Walker , S - Resigned with the Detroit Lions

Gerard Warren , DT - Traded to the Denver Broncos - From Cleveland (For 4th rd draft pick)

Pat Williams , DT - Signed with the Minnesota Vikings


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Rumors

Idrees Bashir , S

Gary Baxter , CB - Possibly resigning with the Baltimore Ravens

Anthony Becht , TE - Interest from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Kendrell Bell , LB - Likely to sign with the NY Giants, Meeting with the Kansas City Chiefs

Tony Bryant - DL - Meeting with the Miami Dolphins, New Orleans Saints

Derrick Burgess , DE

Plaxico Burress , WR - Possibly signing with

Corey Bradford , WR

Kevin Carter , DE - Meeting with the Miami Dolphins

Cosey Coleman , G - Visiting the Cleveland Browns

Chris Clairborne , LB - Possibly signing with the St. Louis Rams

Ron Dayne , RB - Possibly traded to Houston - From NY Giants

Rick DeMulling , G - Interest in signing with the Denver Broncos

Andre Dyson , CB

Mario Edwards , CB - Meeting with the Miami Dolphins

Mark Fields , LB - Meeting with the Carolina Panthers

Jeff Garcia , QB - Likely to sign with the Denver Broncos

William Green , RB - Possibly traded to NY Giants - From Cleveland

Morlon Greenwood , LB

Ben Hamilton , G , Likely to resign with the Denver Broncos

Bobby Hamilton , DE - Meeting with the Miami Dolphins

Nick Harper , CB

Edgerton Hartwell , LB - Meeting with the Kansas City Chiefs

Ike Hilliard , WR - Released by the NY Giants

Vonnie Holliday , DE - Meeting with the Miami Dolphins

Chris Hovan , DL

Ed Jasper , DT - drawn interest from several NFL teams

Brad Johnson , QB - Possibly signing with the Arizona Cardinals

Kenoy Kennedy , S - Possible deal with the Detroit Lions (conflicting reports) Meeting with the Miami Dolphins, Interest from the Cleveland Browns, San Diego Chargers, Oakland Raiders

Ty Law , CB - Drawing interest from the Cleveland Browns

Matt Lehr - OG - Meeting with the Atlanta Falcons, Interest from the Cincinnati Bengals, Denver Broncos

Jermane Mayberry , G - Meeting with the New Orleans Saints

Stockar McDougle , T

Kareem McKenzie , T - Interest with the Chicago Bears

Itula Mili , TE - Possible interest from the Denver Broncos, Minnesota Vikings, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, New Orleans Saints

Fred Miller , T

Rob Morris , MLB

Chike Okeafor , DE - Interest by the Denver Broncos

David Patten , WR - Interest with the Washington Redskins

Marcus Pollard , TE - Released by the Indy Colts

Tommy Polley , LB

Jeb Putzier , TE - Interest from the New York Jets

Trevor Pryce , DE/DT - Trade Rumors include Dallas Cowboys

Ike Reese - LB - Interest from the Chicago Bears

Victor Riley , T

Samari Rolle , CB - Possibly signing with the Washington Redskins, Kansas City Chiefs

Oliver Ross , T - Interest from the New Orleans Saints, Chicago Bears

Allen Rossum , KR - Visiting with the Chargers

Brian Russell , S - Meeting with the Cleveland Browns

Dwight Smith , S - Meeting with the Kansas City Chiefs

Fred Smoot , CB - Meeting with the Washinton Redskins

Duane Starks , CB - Possibly traded to the Patriots (Agreed in Principal)

Matt Stewart , LB - Meeting with the Cleveland Browns, Atlanta Falcons

Patrick Surtain , CB - Possible trade with the Minnesota Vikings, Kansas City Chiefs, Seattle Seahawks

Chester Taylor , RB - Meeting with the Cleveland Browns

David Terrell , WR

Anthony Thomas , RB

Keydrick Vincent , G

Peter Warrick , WR - Being Shopped around by Cincinnati

Kurt Warner , QB - Working out for the Arizona Cardinals, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions

Charles Woodson , CB - Possible trade with Dallas Cowboys


Ok, fire away folks...

[HEAV]

The Cincinnati Bengals have announced the team has re-signed unrestricted free agent WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh to an undisclosed contract.

Updating a previous story, ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Cincinnati Bengals re-signed unrestricted free agent WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh to a four-year, $13 million contract. A signing bonus, if included, has not been disclosed.

[longtimer]

They just announce on the local sport radio station that Kurt Warrner is coming to Chicago for a visit.

[HEAV]

The Detroit Lions re-signed safety Bracy Walker on Wednesday to a one-year contract.

[HEAV]

Colts starters who became free agents Wednesday included guard Rick DeMulling, safety Idrees Bashir, cornerback Nick Harper and middle linebacker Rob Morris.

[sirhcyennek81]

a team with no real defense releases three defensive starters? good work colts.

[HEAV]

Pat's offerd D. Mason more money he turned them down.

Bengals have Peter Warrick on the trading block!

[HEAV]

Les Bowen on Daily News Live reports that Hugh Douglas is working out a deal and he will be back with the Eagles next season.

[HEAV]

***Rumor***

Pyrce to Dallas deal may have fallen apart...... Cowboys are talking trade with the Raiders for C. Woodson.

[HEAV]

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Dallas Cowboys have signed unrestricted free agent CB Anthony Henry (Browns) to a five-year contract. Financial terms were undisclosed.

[ChampBailey24]

where r u gettin this heav?

[Traveler]

Just read at ESPN that the Texans are closing in on a deal with Pat Williams. Damn!

[Ratboy]

Pat Williams is almost gone now? Damn!

What the hell is Shanahan and Co. Doing? Once again we sit back and Everyone is being signed! I'm too frustrated!

[HEAV]

The 49ers are after Bills left tackle Jonas Jennings.

Pat Williams , DT Is currently talking with the Vikings.

[HEAV]

Wow seems like a two team race for Pat Williams!

[SoCalBronco]

Lets get DeMulling and Burgess and a 2 for Pryce and id be happy with that.

[Ratboy]

Heav, You gotta find out what Shanahan is doing. ~Popps~

[Atlas]

a team with no real defense releases three defensive starters? good work colts.
Obviously if their defense sucks than their starters aren't any good. Maybe they should release all their starters.

[HEAV]

Giants soon will sign free-agent linebacker Antonio Pierce to a six-year contract worth up to $25 million.

[Play2win]

Man, this is more fun than Draft Day (almost) ;D

[Maximus]

Denver signed Ian Gold according to Schefter

[HEAV]

<<< Still wants Hovan at DE/DT. Plus I dig the black out on the eyes and the red mane of hair hanging out the helmet!

[Maximus]

Ben Hamilton Signed by denver

[Ratboy]

3-4? or will he play at strongside?

[HEAV]

3-4 backer/safety

[Ratboy]

Vikings | Williams Agrees to Three-Year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:42:03 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Minnesota Vikings have signed free agent DT Pat Williams (Bills) to a three-year, $13 million contract including $6 million in bonus money. The deal also includes incentives that could eventually reach $15 million.

[HEAV]

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Minnesota Vikings have signed free agent DT Pat Williams (Bills) to a three-year, $13 million contract including $6 million in bonus money. The deal also includes incentives that could eventually reach $15 million.


Vikings win!

[HEAV]

Updating an earlier story, Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Dallas Cowboys will pay CB Anthony Henry a signing bonus of $10 million, as he recently agreed to terms with the club. Complete financial details were undisclosed.

[HEAV]

Jaguars sign DE Hayward
March 2, 2005

JACKSONVILLE, Florida (Ticker) - The Jacksonville Jaguars addressed a pressing need Wednesday, signing free agent defensive end Reggie Hayward.

Terms were not disclosed, but the team will hold a news conference Thursday morning to introduce its new pass rusher.

Hayward, 25, led Denver with 10 1/2 sacks last season, when he started 15 games - including the Broncos' AFC wild card loss at Indianapolis. He recorded 60 tackles, one interception and one fumble recovery while forcing one fumble.


A third-round pick in 2001 out of Iowa State, Hayward also had one sack and two tackles in the postseason loss to the Colts.

In 47 career games with the Broncos, Hayward registered 22 sacks and 75 tackles.

Last season, the Jaguars were led in sacks by defensive end Greg Favors and defensive tackle John Henderson, who recorded 5 1/2 apiece.

Jacksonville also signed defensive tackle Martin Chase, a seven-year veteran who missed the entire 2004 season with the New York Giants due to a knee injury. Chase appeared in 13 games with Washington in 2003, recording 12 tackles.

[ChampBailey24]

damn it all!

[Ratboy]

"CURSE YOU AQUA SCUM"

;) Finding Nemo Qoute

[HEAV]

As Houston moved closer to a deal with Bills defensive tackle Pat Williams to be their nose tackle, current Texans nose tackle Seth Payne got word of potentially losing his job and quickly signed a deal.

Payne, 30, agreed to a four-year, $16 million contract that includes a $4.5 million signing bonus

[HEAV]

Free-agent offensive lineman Mike Wahle was in Carolina on Wednesday night and is close to a deal that could be reached as early as Thursday, a league source said.

Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheManeMan]

Free-agent offensive lineman Mike Wahle was in Carolina on Wednesday night and is close to a deal that could be reached as early as Thursday, a league source said.

Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I heard he was close to signing a deal with the Chargers...

[Ratboy]

Maybe Shanahan is sitting back letting all the 'overpayers' get first dibs and than get the left overs?

[Clockwork Orange]

Maybe Shanahan is sitting back letting all the 'overpayers' get first dibs and than get the left overs?

That's exactly what it appears we're going to end up with, leftovers.

[HEAV]

That's exactly what it appears we're going to end up with, leftovers.


I'm starting to get worried. The plan wasn't supposed to go like this. Something is going on..............

[Clockwork Orange]

I'm starting to get worried. The plan wasn't supposed to go like this. Something is going on..............

Any idea as to what the plan was?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Any idea as to what the plan was?

Sit on our ass until there's no one is left?

[Clockwork Orange]

Sit on our ass until there's no one is left?

Then they're executing it perfectly.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3433914

Pierce to the Giants

[Mtbrncofn]

****, I'm starting to feel like a Chief fan last year, at this point.

[HEAV]

Plan was to be big tackle Willimams or Payne , then Havon and or Burgess, DeLoachfor DE and eat OG Andruzzi or Wahle (if released) which he was!

Seems like Warren fell out of the sky (cheaper)

Now they did plan to go with soem cheaper guys such as K Clancy, Bobby Hamilton, Okeafor or Vander Bosh and Marcus Bell. But that was if they lost Pope,Ellis, or Davis!

Gold wasn't in the plans. They thought they had Kennedy wrapped. Garcia wasn't in the original plan. They tried for Frank but got "Sticker shock"

I'm worried that the Broncos have gone cost cutting!!! Almost like they under estameted the market and over estameted their chances of keeping people!

[HEAV]

The San Diego Chargers, quiet on the opening day of free agency, have scheduled visits with return specialist Allen Rossum of Atlanta and safety Bhawoh Jue of Green Bay for Thursday.


The Oakland Raiders were close to signing free-agent running back LaMont Jordan, who was in town to meet with the team Wednesday.

"We have a deal in principle that he should sign tomorrow morning -- 99.9 percent sure he will be a Raider," Jordan's agent, Alvin Keels, said in an e-mail Wednesday night



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People we may be in trouble...........

[HEAV]

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Arizona Cardinals are close to completing a deal to trade CB Duane Starks, for a third-round draft choice in 2005, to the New England Patriots.

[Rascal]

trouble...were ****ed. This couldn't have gone any worse...our FA signings are Warren and Gold? What the hell is shanny doing? It's like we are the freaking chiefs.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Gold wasn't in the plans. They thought they had Kennedy wrapped. Garcia wasn't in the original plan. They tried for Frank but got "Sticker shock"

I'm worried that the Broncos have gone cost cutting!!! Almost like they under estameted the market and over estameted their chances of keeping people!


There is no way Pat Williams gave them sticker shock with the deal he signed with the Vikes.

I think Shanny (again) has not caught on that teams are identifying who they want, and making it happen on Day 1. Players are no longer making multiple visits before deciding, teams get them to town and are not letting them leave.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

trouble...were ****ed. This couldn't have gone any worse...our FA signings are Warren and Gold? What the hell is shanny doing? It's like we are the freaking chiefs.

Free agency is more then one day long, but the lack of any initial push by Denver is rather disheartening

[HEAV]

He must feel this team really only needs a tweak here and there.........

Damn Atleast we re-signed Hamilton. 1 outta 3 isn't bad.....errrrrrrrr ummmm

All this typing, scanning, sirius radio, Cell phone using as me dizzy.


The Dallas Cowboys have re-signed unrestricted free agent DL Leonardo Carson to a one-year contract, according to Nick Eatman of DallasCowboys.com.

The Dallas Cowboys have re-signed unrestricted free agent S Lynn Scott to a one-year contract, according to Nick Eatman of DallasCowboys.com.

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Sticker shock was from Bubba Franks. Not Williams.

" I think Shanny (again) has not caught on that teams are identifying who they want, and making it happen on Day 1. Players are no longer making multiple visits before deciding, teams get them to town and are not letting them leave."

I have to agree with this. The days of the late 90's are gone. Some deals where done before the weekend. Tampering yes, but those teams got the deals done too fast.

[Rascal]

all the people that this board targeted or who people believed had inside information are either gone or about to be. I'd love to know what the hell shanny is doing. This is pathetic.

[Ratboy]

Bump up the "Fire Shanahan Thread"!

[Racer]

Correction: Randy Moss went to the Raiders for Napleon Harris and two draft picks, Tyrone wheatly was released out right and is a Free Agent.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Some deals where done before the weekend. Tampering yes, but those teams got the deals done too fast.

I'd bet all 32 teams would be nailed for tampering at the Combine if the League chose to enforce it.

[HEAV]

Well Hovan is still on the board also some of the lower level (cheap) F.A. are still there, just was supposed to be more fireworks, at least I thought there were.

There's still talent out there and more will be after the June 3 cut. It's just not that shinny new toy to play with...............

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Bump up the "Fire Shanahan Thread"!

Start a "New GM" thread instead

[Ratboy]

Honestly, I'm clueless. I'm sure Shanahan and Co. are making phone calls, They're obviously being secretive about it. Shanahan is afraid of getting burned.

[HEAV]

The things are currently going they may have to swallow it and keep Trevor. Btu theres bad blood right now with him and managment.

Coach has to but a solid unit out there or this will be his last year in Denver.

[Tombstone RJ]

The Broncos are pretty tight against the cap, so its not like they're going to be ultra aggressive in FA.

With the switch to a 3-4 defense, the Broncos need a big fat plug in the middle, and they have that with Warren. The Broncos are super deep at LB. The Broncos secondary is in good condition too.

The Broncos need to bring in another DE for the defense, and that might come in the draft. Also, the Broncos will probable draft another olineman in the second round.

If Shanny is truly set with Plummer, than he just needs a few tweeks. I personally don't think that Shanahan is right in his analysis of this team, but I guess that is why he is the HC/VP and I'm just a fan...

[HEAV]

The Cleveland Browns have met with free agent S Brian Russell (Vikings), according to Pat McManamon of ClevelandBrowns.com.

The Cleveland Browns have met with free agent LB Matt Stewart (Falcons), according to Pat McManamon of ClevelandBrowns.com.

The Cleveland Browns have met with free agent RB Chester Taylor (Ravens), according to Pat McManamon of ClevelandBrowns.com.
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The Browns get more action than us!

[DBroncos4life]

Smoot or Rolle will be fine for now then wait tell Strahan gets cut. Might as well start kissing Pryce's ass now!!!

[Pezman]

Whew... Ok, I'm taking a quick break from updating the original post for awhile. Thanks to everyone for the links and updates!

[HEAV]

Whew... Ok, I'm taking a quick break from updating the original post for awhile. Thanks to everyone for the links and updates!


Great Job Pez! It was hectic trying to scope out 4 to 5 sites and work the cell and listen to the NFL network! Just wish we had more to be happy about.

[HEAV]

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports the Oakland Raiders have agreed in principle with free agent RB LaMont Jordan on a five-year deal worth $27.5 million. Terms of the deal are expected to be finalized Thursday, March 3. Jordan's agent, Alvin Keels, said he is 99.9 percent sure Jordan will join the Raiders. Jordan is set to receive $15.7 million in guarantees over the first three years of the deal, including $7 million in the form of a signing bonus.

[DBroncos4life]

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports the Oakland Raiders have agreed in principle with free agent RB LaMont Jordan on a five-year deal worth $27.5 million. Terms of the deal are expected to be finalized Thursday, March 3. Jordan's agent, Alvin Keels, said he is 99.9 percent sure Jordan will join the Raiders. Jordan is set to receive $15.7 million in guarantees over the first three years of the deal, including $7 million in the form of a signing bonus.



Thats alot of cash...I sure hope it doesn't work out for them :)

[Ratboy]

I take it we have no good news.

[Rascal]

silence from dove valley...freaking morons.

[HEAV]

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports the New Orleans Saints have released WR Jerome Pathon, clearing $3.333 million in salary cap space with the move.

[DBroncos4life]

I take it we have no good news.



Good news from the Broncos cap. Each member of the FO saves a buttload of money by switching to Gico. Remember a 15 minute call can save you more or in our case make us miss out on the entire FA period.

[wabbit]

I don't understand you folks. I really don't.

It takes time to put together the moves the Broncos want to make.

Rolle, Surtain, people like that are pipe dreams...Denver doesn't have the money to pay those people. They probably came in because they'd heard Denver was a great place to play & wanted to see what was available.

Shanahan & Sundquist, along with others have been planning this off-season since last summer with a pretty good idea of what was going to transpire.

People forget, apparently, that there is another FA date...June 1, when still more players will become available.

I admit things look rather unsettled at the moment, but it's early...and I mean REALLY early.

I can't see any blockbuster moves coming to pass like last year & maybe that's what fans want, but Bailey/Portis deals are rare.

Denver will NOT short change it's D-Line. Quite the contrary, it will be the emphasis this off-season...key word there...off-season...it's only the beginning.

I can't remember a more impatient fan base...sheesh

[Ratboy]

Well wabbit,

Seeing other teams locking up players that we wanted is frustrating. You would think they would call some players in and talk to them, but not a word. You think they would be a little more active, but it's something we can expect. It happened last year after the Portis/Bailey Trade.. Shanahan and Co. sat around and twiddled their thumbs

[DBroncos4life]

I don't understand you folks. I really don't.

It takes time to put together the moves the Broncos want to make.

Rolle, Surtain, people like that are pipe dreams...Denver doesn't have the money to pay those people. They probably came in because they'd heard Denver was a great place to play & wanted to see what was available.

Shanahan & Sundquist, along with others have been planning this off-season since last summer with a pretty good idea of what was going to transpire.

People forget, apparently, that there is another FA date...June 1, when still more players will become available.

I admit things look rather unsettled at the moment, but it's early...and I mean REALLY early.

I can't see any blockbuster moves coming to pass like last year & maybe that's what fans want, but Bailey/Portis deals are rare.

Denver will NOT short change it's D-Line. Quite the contrary, it will be the emphasis this off-season...key word there...off-season...it's only the beginning.

I can't remember a more impatient fan base...sheesh



No we need people now!!!! Burn the computers! Riot riot riot!!! :bomb:


Ok Im done, now what is this June first you speak of? :)

[wabbit]

Have to ask HR, but there is a second FA period after, and during which teams can adjust their cap...releasing some players to save cap space down the road.

Happens every year, I believe it's June first

[DBroncos4life]

Have to ask HR, but there is a second FA period after, and during which teams can adjust their cap...releasing some players to save cap space down the road.

Happens every year, I believe it's June first


I know man Im just playing. But its not the idea I had in mind when I heard about the gleam Mikes eye. I better not just be the look of Gold either....Ian Gold that is.

[wabbit]

...Seeing other teams locking up players that we wanted is frustrating. You would think they would call some players in and talk to them, but not a word. You think they would be a little more active...

You don't know what they're doing...there's a lot of back room stuff that goes on this time of year you don't hear about until it happens.

I know that 8 or 9 teams wanted to talk to Hayward, yet the Jagwads locked him up in a day...how? He might've squeezed out a few more millions.

Agents & Agent Agencies have relationships with teams & coaches & management & ownership...some good, some not so good.

With a wink & a nod teams get a heads up on who's going to be out there & what it 'might' take to get him on your team...and screw the tampering rules. That's been something of a joke for a decade.

There's a hell of a lot more going on out there than you'll ever read, and a whole lot happens long before the starting gate is opened.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

The Broncos are pretty tight against the cap, so its not like they're going to be ultra aggressive in FA.
...

If you think we're up close against the cap. The Faider are.....(Drum Roll.....)... $15 mil over the cap. And had to release a grip of starter to get under.

[orange crusher]

Here's an article from the RMN. It sounds like Okeafor is coming in Thursday (today). This I didn't understand - DeMulling has expressed interest in talking with the Broncos and contacted them earlier this week, but hasn't heard back. Get his butt in here!

Broncos see Gold as silver lining?


Ex-Denver linebacker, Okeafor on their radar

By Lee Rasizer And Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News
March 3, 2005

There was no immediate charge into free agency for the Denver Broncos on Wednesday, but they are working on a rusher to replace their 2004 sacks leader.

Chike Okeafor, arguably the top defensive end still available, will visit the team today. The Broncos also have all but finished an agreement with linebacker Ian Gold, a standout with the Broncos from 2000 to 2003 on special teams and defense before leaving in free agency last off-season.

Reached Wednesday night, Gold, who spent much of the day at the Broncos' Dove Valley complex, refused to confirm his Denver visit, much less his contract status.

"I have not signed on the dotted line with any team," he said.

But earlier, Gold, released by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in a salary-cap move Tuesday, maintained that he had offers from at least four teams and expected a quick resolution.

His only caveat was that he wants to play weak-side linebacker (away from an offense's tight end) not the strong side, where he toiled last season with the Buccaneers.

Denver has one of the league's up-and-coming stars on the weak side in D.J. Williams, so it is unclear how Gold would fit into the Broncos' scheme.

Free agency formally opened at 12:01 a.m. EST on Wednesday as the frenzy began leaguewide to secure the biggest names available.

But Broncos general manager Ted Sundquist, with only moderate salary-cap room, had promised a more reasoned, patient approach than some of his peers and Denver followed through as it sought to fill specific needs.

The biggest of those needs is replacing defensive end Reggie Hayward, who agreed to a five-year, $25 million contract with the Jacksonville Jaguars that included a $10 million signing bonus.

Okeafor, 28, could be a lower-cost alternative, but he is being pursued by the Arizona Cardinals, Kansas City Chiefs and his former team, the Seattle Seahawks. All of those teams have far more flexibility against the salary cap than the Broncos.

Okeafor led the Seahawks in sacks in each of the past two seasons with eight and 81/2.

It is the second time the Broncos seriously have pursued Okeafor. He visited Denver during the 2003 off-season but was snapped up by the Seahawks with a two-year $4 million deal.

Scouts consider the 265-pound Okeafor a high-effort player.

"It looks like Chike is pretty much their target," Okeafor's agent, Andy Simms, said. "We'll see how things play out. The trip's planned for a reason."

Hayward's deal likely has set the market for top free-agent defensive ends. He leaves Denver having played in 47 games with 75 tackles, 22 assists, 22 sacks, seven passes defensed and one interception.

He led the team last season with 101/2 sacks.

"The one thing Jacksonville's been missing is a pass rush, and they had probably identified Reggie as the top pass-rushing defensive end out there since John Abraham (New York Jets) and Darren Howard (New Orleans Saints) were franchised," Hayward's agent, Fletcher Smith, said. "So with that said, I'm not surprised that they felt that he was deserving of the contract comparable to what we were looking for when we set out into free agency."

The Broncos also continue to negotiate with safety Kenoy Kennedy, who is slated to visit the Detroit Lions on Sunday. But the cap-constrained Broncos are not in a position to bid against the Lions, Jets and Miami Dolphins, so early indications are Kennedy has played his last game with Denver.

After making one-year tender offers to their restricted free agents, restructuring eight contracts and cutting guard Dan Neil, the Broncos are about $3.9 million under the $85.5 million salary cap.

But that total does not include Gerard Warren's contract - the defensive tackle's trade to Denver for a fourth-round pick in the draft next month was finalized with paperwork having been filed with the NFL - or the first-year salary of guard Ben Hamilton, who has agreed to terms on a five-year contract that has not yet been filed with the league.

The Broncos also have targeted a potential replacement should they lose Kennedy. Green Bay Packers safety Bhawoh Jue also has drawn interest from the St. Louis Rams and the Broncos, but the fifth-year veteran has received a recommendation from Denver secondary coach Bob Slowik.

Slowik was Jue's position coach for three years with the Packers (2001-03) as well as Green Bay's defensive coordinator last season. Jue, who at 200 pounds played cornerback, free safety and strong safety for the Packers, was a regular on special teams as well.

Also Wednesday:

• Warren spent part of the day at Dove Valley getting acquainted with his new team as well as meeting with coaches. As part of the deal with the Browns, the Broncos will be responsible for dealing with a $1.3 million roster bonus Warren is scheduled to receive today.

• Free-agent guard Rick DeMulling, who filled in at center for the Indianapolis Colts last season, has expressed interest in talking with the Broncos. DeMulling's representative, Ken Staninger, said he contacted the Broncos earlier this week but has not heard back from the team.

"Yes, they are on our radar," Staninger said. "Rick is a Northwest guy and would like to get back in that part of the country if things work out."

DeMulling played at Idaho and is a native of Cheney, Wash. • Broncos running back Santonio Beard, who had been allocated to NFL Europe, failed his physical at the league's training camp at Tampa, Fla., this week. It means the Broncos lose a roster exemption to bring an extra player to their training camp in July because Beard will not play in Europe.

[Ratboy]

Sign Okeafor and Draft Merriman.

And I'm not for signing Bhawoh Jue, He's a SS. We need a True FS and Move Lynch back to SS.

I still have hope for Ken Lucas for the CB. I dont see Lenny Walls as the starter.

[Ratboy]

The way it sounds so far, It's going to be another year of us complaining about Pass Rush.

[ro_50]

ok guys (for you fans that are getting peeved),

Sundquist has contacted me about playing for Denver. I'm 5'8, weight 165, and can run the 40 in 5-flat: that is 5 hours.

I think I will be a Glynn Milburn type of player: a little bit of everything. I can return kicks, punts, and fetch the Water.

[Breck Bronc]

After seeing this, I think we're in trouble.


http://img212.exs.cx/img212/1409/broncosshop7rq.jpg

[Hercules Rockefeller]

After making one-year tender offers to their restricted free agents, restructuring eight contracts and cutting guard Dan Neil, the Broncos are about $3.9 million under the $85.5 million salary cap.


The only way that number is correct is if Denver was over the cap going into this offseason, which flies in the face of every single report from any media source in the past month.

Rasizer's cap reporting was a joke last offseason. He was somehow able to change how much Denver was under the cap on a daily basis without Denver making any actual signings.

[fontaine]

Updating an earlier story, Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Dallas Cowboys will pay CB Anthony Henry a signing bonus of $10 million, as he recently agreed to terms with the club. Complete financial details were undisclosed.

Fontaine wrote yesterday:
I don't think we'll be able to afford him. He (Henry) could command around $10million or more just to sign, since smooty won't settle for anything less than $15 and will probably get it.

I'm not right that often, but when it happens I luv it!
:)

[fontaine]

I think Denver is doing OK.

Teams with cap space and losing records will obviously do much more to secure top flight talent early on.

Let them.

Denver is probably three/four players away from getting the job done. Why overpay when we don't have the cap space.

The most crucial thing in my opinion is getting Pryce restructured. If the Broncos can somehow convince him to do that given any team that trades for him will do likewise then what's the harm in having our best DL back and paying him his due?

With Pryce/Warren/Ellis Johnson/Pope/Fatguy/Palepoi/Coleman we'll have a decent DL.

Another thing, I know I said earlier we should resign Gold and move him to S because Kennedy is as good as gone.

But f**k this assclown. He only wants to sign as a weakside LB to make plays. He probably wants to sign a one year deal to make big plays at WLB instead of working hard to cover TEs at the strong side.

Well screw it. If he doesn't want coverage responsibilities then how's he going to move to S where the pay is much less. Piss off Gold.

[HEAV]

Shanahan & Sundquist, along with others have been planning this off-season since last summer with a pretty good idea of what was going to transpire.

Sorry Wabbit, but I have to disagree.

This is not a plan at all. This is sloppy, fly by the seat of their pants, planning. Warren was never in teh original plan. Reggie was the plan has of two weeks ago. The 3-4 idea was to get Pat Williams and a solid big DE. Also Pyrce was to be traded by now (they said not me). They thought Pryce would re-work his deal, he didn't.

When your division rival brings in Moss and a decent RB in Jordan and all you do is trade a pick (which leaves you with 4 total) for a DT with 1 year on his contract and attempt to resign a weakside LB (when you have a young stud there already) that is small. At the same time lose a 10 sack DE, while every other DE/DT is being signed in front of your face. That's bad planning.

As a fan I'm angry. As a person that had some info a few weeks ago on the original plan I'm sick. This team got blind sided by the rest of the league. This team has failed in the early part of the offseason. Failing to tag any compensation to Hayward. Falling to move the big contract of Pryce, failing to see the real market value of Trevor and basically put themselve in a corner to have to move him!

This team had a plan. It was not to go like it did. With a weak draft teams decided to make the free agent signign period priority #1. Denver, with less picks in a weak draft, assumed two weeks ago that they could resign Hayward, and get a big man at DT and an decent OG. All they got was a big man at DT and it cost them a pick.

This isn't plan "A" right now the Broncos are looking at plan "B" and "C". Any signing in June are leftovers and castoffs. Yes they are important, but this team needed to make a move with long term (future) results. Warren while big man will be a UFA in 06. If he has a big year his price will be huge and Denver will be in the same position and next year as it is this year.

This is a bad plan.

[eddie mac]

Also Wednesday:

• Warren spent part of the day at Dove Valley getting acquainted with his new team as well as meeting with coaches. As part of the deal with the Browns, the Broncos will be responsible for dealing with a $1.3 million roster bonus Warren is scheduled to receive today.



WTF, Denver responsible for the roster bonus that means instead of $900,000 cap hit he's a $2.2 m cap hit this season. Broncos better get an extension sorted out pronto. These fools couldn't manage a Burger King franchise let alone a salary cap!!

[HEAV]

The Sun-Sentinel reports DE Kevin Carter, DE Tony Bryant and CB Mario Edwards arrived in South Florida on Wednesday for visits with the Dolphins. Miami also is expected to meet with Denver S Kenoy Kennedy and have an interest in DE Vonnie Holiday and DE Bobby Hamilton.


The Philadelphia Daily News reports OG Jermane Mayberry (Eagles) will fly to New Orleans for a free-agent visit today


The Washington Post reports the Redskins contacted CB Fred Smoot yesterday morning to gauge his situation. Smoot didn't make any visits to other teams


The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports free-agent OG Marco Rivera (Packers) was receiving the full-court press from the Cowboys, who were trying to get a deal done today before he leaves for visits with the Detroit Lions and Baltimore Ravens.


The Miami Herald reports the Minnesota Vikings called to express interest in trading for Dolphins CB Patrick Surtain.


The Star Ledger reports former Jets TE Anthony Becht has drawn interest from the Bucs.


The Baltimore Sun reports the Ravens were talking with CB Gary Baxter's agent last night and could be closing in on re-signing the cornerback.


The Tampa Tribune reports LB Ian Gold (Bucs) visited Denver on Wednesday and one report had him close to signing with the Broncos, where he played from 2000-2003. Gold was believed to be contemplating signing a five-year, $23 million deal that included a signing bonus worth between $8 million-$10 million.

[fontaine]

Sorry Wabbit, but I have to disagree.

This is not a plan at all. This is sloppy, fly by the seat of their pants, planning. Warren was never in teh original plan. Reggie was the plan has of two weeks ago. The 3-4 idea was to get Pat Williams and a solid big DE. Also Pyrce was to be traded by now (they said not me). They thought Pryce would re-work his deal, he didn't.

. . . . .

This is a bad plan.

Bad plan? According to who? You? ROFL!

I admire most your takes HEAV but most of us have no friggin' idea how, when, where, what happens in free agency. Denver has very little money under the cap. They should have done more to get relief with Pryce's cap charge because they knew about it since the start of free agency last year.

Getting Pat Williams etc and all may have been a decent plan but that counts for sh*t when other teams like the Vikings have $20 or so million under the cap.

[Traveler]

The Tampa Tribune reports LB Ian Gold (Bucs) visited Denver on Wednesday and one report had him close to signing with the Broncos, where he played from 2000-2003. Gold was believed to be contemplating signing a five-year, $23 million deal that included a signing bonus worth between $8 million-$10 million.


That better not be the case! They're willing to give an $8-10 million bonus to Gold but not Hayward?

[Mile High Shack]

That better not be the case! They're willing to give an $8-10 million bonus to Gold but not Hayward?

if they give him a 8 million signing bonus, I officially give up on the 2005 season

8 million for a 210 lb undersized midget LB?

WTF????????

[HEAV]

They should have done more to get relief with Pryce's cap charge because they knew about it since the start of free agency last year.
Getting Pat Williams etc and all may have been a decent plan but that counts for sh*t when other teams like the Vikings have $20 or so million under the cap.

Ya like I stated bad planning on their part.

[Mile High Shack]

Ya like I stated bad planning on their part.

that's more than bad planning

regular guys get fired for crap like this, but SHanny gets a lifetime contract???

[BroncoFiend]

I can't believe the 'fire Shanny' nonsense is coming up after the first day of free agency. :unamused:

[Mile High Shack]

I can't believe the 'fire Shanny' nonsense is coming up after the first day of free agency. :unamused:

when you give a midget LB a 8 million dollar signing bonus, the talk needs to start

[HEAV]

when you give a midget LB a 8 million dollar signing bonus, the talk needs to start


The guy has a point. Not saying I want him fired.....yet.... just annoyed at this layed back, everything is cool, approach to this offseason.

This is a make or break season for coach. If he doesn't get it done he's in trouble.

Just the bumbling way they have gone threw this, so far, scares me.

They have to either take the best offer and move Pryce or cut bait. Becuase the market isn't in their favor right now and getting a handfull of sloppy seconds isn't going to help in June.

[kent156]

just a thought i can see pryce being moved now, i can understand why teams like the cowboys and vikings not dealing for pryce before they can get their players. They probably knew denver would be after the same player with the more cap room.

[TheDave]

when you give a midget LB a 8 million dollar signing bonus, the talk needs to start

All of the Gold talk is just speculation right now... Lets wait till the dust settles and see the real numbers as reported to the league before we fire the whole staff. Having said that they sure as hell better not give half pint 8 million bucks!

[Mile High Shack]

The guy has a point. Not saying I want him fired.....yet.... just annoyed at this layed back, everything is cool, approach to this offseason.

This is a make or break season for coach. If he doesn't get it done he's in trouble.

Just the bumbling way they have gone threw this, so far, scares me.

They have to either take the best offer and move Pryce or cut bait. Becuase the market isn't in their favor right now and getting a handfull of sloppy seconds isn't going to help in June.

I don't want him fired either.........I'm just saying, that this is the watershed year for me with Shanny

we either win a playoff game or we need to change directions and signing Ian to a huge contract is not a good start

[bendog]

Shanny won't be in job trouble with Bowlen unless the seas tix get turned back. But, since the superbowls, the plan is a new plan every year to free up max cap space for the coming season to add crappy ass attitude assholes to fit in holes with no regard to the following seasons. However, shanny isn't to blame for sonic wanting a new deal - and I think we'll be just as happy with tacobell - or Pryce catching a bad back.

[TheDave]

Sorry Wabbit, but I have to disagree.

This is not a plan at all. This is sloppy, fly by the seat of their pants, planning. Warren was never in teh original plan. Reggie was the plan has of two weeks ago. The 3-4 idea was to get Pat Williams and a solid big DE. Also Pyrce was to be traded by now (they said not me). They thought Pryce would re-work his deal, he didn't.

When your division rival brings in Moss and a decent RB in Jordan and all you do is trade a pick (which leaves you with 4 total) for a DT with 1 year on his contract and attempt to resign a weakside LB (when you have a young stud there already) that is small. At the same time lose a 10 sack DE, while every other DE/DT is being signed in front of your face. That's bad planning.

As a fan I'm angry. As a person that had some info a few weeks ago on the original plan I'm sick. This team got blind sided by the rest of the league. This team has failed in the early part of the offseason. Failing to tag any compensation to Hayward. Falling to move the big contract of Pryce, failing to see the real market value of Trevor and basically put themselve in a corner to have to move him!

This team had a plan. It was not to go like it did. With a weak draft teams decided to make the free agent signign period priority #1. Denver, with less picks in a weak draft, assumed two weeks ago that they could resign Hayward, and get a big man at DT and an decent OG. All they got was a big man at DT and it cost them a pick.

This isn't plan "A" right now the Broncos are looking at plan "B" and "C". Any signing in June are leftovers and castoffs. Yes they are important, but this team needed to make a move with long term (future) results. Warren while big man will be a UFA in 06. If he has a big year his price will be huge and Denver will be in the same position and next year as it is this year.

This is a bad plan.

The sky is falling.... I'm telling you all I have a source, and the sky is falling... Give me a break. It's barely day 2 of Free agencey and already you know that they have scrapped plan A & B and i gues are now so frustrated that they are just sitting around waiting for the other shoe to drop! B.S.

[Rascal]

according to rotoworld Panthers have offered Wahle a signing bonus in excess of 12 million and will have him play right tackle.

[Rascal]

they are also reporting that the cowboys are about to sign Marco Rivera (packers lose both guards...ouch). If dallas doesn't sign him he is expected to sign with Detroit or Baltimore.

Speaking of baltimore...what about their FA guards? What has come of them?

[bendog]

Didn't Car lose their oline to the Cap after their superbowl appearance?

[Hotrod]

Sorry Wabbit, but I have to disagree.

This is not a plan at all. This is sloppy, fly by the seat of their pants, planning. Warren was never in teh original plan. Reggie was the plan has of two weeks ago. The 3-4 idea was to get Pat Williams and a solid big DE. Also Pyrce was to be traded by now (they said not me). They thought Pryce would re-work his deal, he didn't.

When your division rival brings in Moss and a decent RB in Jordan and all you do is trade a pick (which leaves you with 4 total) for a DT with 1 year on his contract and attempt to resign a weakside LB (when you have a young stud there already) that is small. At the same time lose a 10 sack DE, while every other DE/DT is being signed in front of your face. That's bad planning.

As a fan I'm angry. As a person that had some info a few weeks ago on the original plan I'm sick. This team got blind sided by the rest of the league. This team has failed in the early part of the offseason. Failing to tag any compensation to Hayward. Falling to move the big contract of Pryce, failing to see the real market value of Trevor and basically put themselve in a corner to have to move him!

This team had a plan. It was not to go like it did. With a weak draft teams decided to make the free agent signign period priority #1. Denver, with less picks in a weak draft, assumed two weeks ago that they could resign Hayward, and get a big man at DT and an decent OG. All they got was a big man at DT and it cost them a pick.

This isn't plan "A" right now the Broncos are looking at plan "B" and "C". Any signing in June are leftovers and castoffs. Yes they are important, but this team needed to make a move with long term (future) results. Warren while big man will be a UFA in 06. If he has a big year his price will be huge and Denver will be in the same position and next year as it is this year.

This is a bad plan.

Sorry Wabbit I like most of your takes and know you come up with good info most of the time but Heavy is correct. What we are seeing so far could not possibly have been the "master Plan" no way no how. And if it was then someone needs to go. The biggest "rumored" bidder for Pryce was the cowgirls they have made alot of moves and spent some serious cash already that deal is over (I would think). So far 1)we have a worse Dline then last year 2) Pryce's value has obviouly gone to crap 3) Most of the Dlineman that were out there that could have helped are gone 4) The draft is weak at best and even if we get one of the better dlineman in the draft how many rookie dlman are great or even good their first couple of years?

Now we start hearing that the tard Gold may get 8 mil signing bonus while Hayward slips out the back door that will piss me off more then any Bronco move in history. That just cant be correct but if it is I may join the "fire everyone bandwagon".

[Rascal]

According to rotoworld:

Antonio Pierce turned down a deal from the Vikings at the last minute when the asked him to defer his signing bonus. He is reportedly looking at the Giants now.

Bhawoh Joe is being pursued by the Chargers to be their starting free safety.

[DBroncos4life]

Hugh Douglas - DL - Eagles


Hugh Douglas and the Eagles will finalize a one-year deal before the end of the week to keep him in Philadelphia.
His injuries and inconsistent play made it easy for Douglas to stay. He's no longer an IDP option, but can be a useful reserve for the Eagles. Mar. 3 - 11:51 am et
Source: Rocky Mountain News


Chike Okeafor - DL - Seahawks


The Broncos are closing in on a deal for former Seahawks defensive end Chike Okeafor.
With Reggie Hayward gone, Okeafor is probably the best defensive end on a very thin market. Arizona and Kansas City are also reportedly in the mix. Mar. 3 - 11:47 am et
Source: Rocky Mountain News




Ian Gold - LB - Buccaneers


The Broncos have all but completed a deal for linebacker Ian Gold.
It's a coup if the Broncos can get him back. Our only question is about where Gold plays. He left Tampa Bay because he wanted to play at his natural position, on the weak side, but that's where future Pro Bowler D.J. Williams plays. Mar. 3 - 11:17 am et
Source: Rocky Mountain News

[Hotrod]

So what are we looking at here

DE Okeafor
DT Fatty
DT Old dude
DE Paleoapoai

LB Gold
LB Wilson
LB DJ

I guess there are worst front 7's ???

[kent156]

i'm thinking more like

DE Davis
NT warren
DE Johnson

WOLB Williams
ILB pierce
ILB Wilson
SOLB Okaefor

and Gold as a safety

[Hotrod]

Hows about

DE Pollack
DT Fatty
DE Okreafer

OLB Ian overpaid whiny self serving Gold
ILB Wilson
ILB Pierce
OLB DJ

[wabbit]

Never said there was any Master Plan folks...just saying the Bronco staff have been planning what they're going to do for some time now...if things pan out perfectly, great, but they never do, and a great deal of latitude must always be built into any strategy.

It is confusing, but when I read that we should sign Trotter, Rolle & Smoot & how about Doublas, and Pryce for Taylor...I have to wonder where the knowledge stops among some fans & delusion sets in.

Denver can't do everything, even if the cap room WERE there.

Shanahan/Sundquist knew there would be pleasant & unpleasant surprises. They know the market is limited for a 10-million-dollar DE, but fans expect a BIG payback because of his skill level.

They KNOW Gerard Warren was a bust in Cleveland & will be no savior here.

They KNOW Gold is chancy and maybe only a rental.

It's all that way ALL the time...everyone does it...some succeed, some don't.

It plays out & you win or you leave...it's a gamble every year, in every move you make.

Coaches come & go, and that's why...you pays the money & you takes your chances...that's all you can do.

[Hotrod]

Wabbit what is your feeling about 8-10 mil signing bonus for Gold. Thats crazy dont ya think.

[wabbit]

I tried to talk with Pat Saunders this morning, but can't get through.

I have no idea how legit that is, and i have work to do this afternoon UN football related, so you folks will learn more about it before I get anything.

Yes, it seems silly & excessive

[NaptownChief]

Wabbit what is your feeling about 8-10 mil signing bonus for Gold. Thats crazy dont ya think.



OMG, Is that the number that is being thrown around?

[Hotrod]

OMG, Is that the number that is being thrown around?


Go away this is our melt down and nobody invited you ;D

[NaptownChief]

Go away this is our melt down and nobody invited you ;D



Boy, I would be having one also if that is truly the case....That much money for a guy who busted in TB at a position of strength...That would sure seem brain dead. However, I had not seen that number anywhere else. I would be shocked if he got 1/3rd of that in a signing bonus.

Rat may not be the nicest guy to work for but he is a lot smarter than that.

[football idiot]

signing bonus is just that. he's young, he's healthy, and we probably offered him something similar last year, before his big head and dumb new agents talked him into a big meaningless contract that he'd never see a dime from.

maybe he's learned his lesson. I tell you one thing, I won't mind having his speed on the field again. we need some meat at LB, but speed kills. and if we're running a zone-blitz, we need fast LB's that can line-up anywhere, blow around the line, and blast the QB. Gold was good for plenty of that, when used right. all of a sudden everybody thinks he's a NFL Europe player because he's not DE sized.

we got a solid DT. Gerard is right up there with Pryce on potential and talent level. if we can work him into a contract extension with incentives, he might be a HOF'er for us. but that's not good enough? that's the best spent 4th-round pick I've ever seen.

you want to overpay for a DE? do you think Hayward (a one-dimensional player that got a lot of help from our scheme, just like Berry) is worth $12-mill? or whatever he got. he found a team & situation he liked, he gets to be a part of an incredible defense in JAX, on an up-and-coming squad. maybe he left because he wanted to move to Florida instead of the mountains...

and we can't get guys if they don't want to come here.

there has been ONE DAY of free agency. we traded a 4th-rd. pick for a potential franchise DT who'll cost us 2-mill. we still have the rights to Pryce, and we'll either get a pick out of them, or get him at a fair-market-value deal in a restructure, when the big guy realizes nobody else wants him. we'll get Okafor, who'll be just as good as Hayward & Berry, another pass-rush specialist who needs help and can't do much else, and we'll get him alot cheaper than Reggie & Bert would cost.

we've got the secondary we need. we can get by with Fergie & Lynch, Kennedy helps, and our corners should stay about the same. we've got the LB's we need. funny that we're already writing off Pierce as a bust because he wasn't ready to start as a rookie over the captain of our defense.

trust me. the front office is working. they aren't playing golf or watching cartoons. they're making calls, and they're finding guys who'll make this team better, that aren't really over-valued. they have a limited amount of money to spend and a lot of areas on the team to address. and the options are numerous when you're trying to deal a guy like Pryce, anything can happen. we could get another Bailey deal, or make moves in the draft, or re-do his contract.

it's EARLY. calm the hell down. start complaining in July if you think we really are going to suck because somebody STOLE a free agent.

of all these guys we 'want' that signed elsewhere, who do you think was worth what they got and would have worked well on our team?

I'd rather have GW for $2-mill than Pat Williams for $6/per.

[kent156]

Hows about

DE Pollack
DT Fatty
DE Okreafer

OLB Ian overpaid whiny self serving Gold
ILB Wilson
ILB Pierce
OLB DJ

in today's NFL the broncos need 290 plus DE in one of the many articles on hayward he said the broncos wanted to use him in coverage more. He barked at it saying he is a pass rusher didn't want to be used in coverage more or less.

[SoCalBronco]

I tried to talk with Pat Saunders this morning, but can't get through.

I have no idea how legit that is, and i have work to do this afternoon UN football related, so you folks will learn more about it before I get anything.

Yes, it seems silly & excessive

Man wabbit i cant take it much longer man,
according to the DPO, it seems DJ will be moving to the strongside. I just lost alot of respect for Shanny. And to top it off, we are all hearing this 8-10 million bonus talk for ****ing gold. I have an idea, if we are so into spending money away from our weaknesses and misusing players, why dont we have DJ play only special teams and rip up Pierce's contract and give him a 15 million bonus!

[bendog]

Forget Heyward. I don't care. I'd rather Den locked him up two years ago, but that's water under the bridge. But 8-10 mil in bonus will get a decent two gap DT, like Williams who just signed with dullass for 6 mil, to go with Big Ass who fancies himslef a one gap guy. OR, 10-12 mil might get an impact DT to go along with Big Ass's unmotivated ass.

Instead, they bring in Gold and move DJ? That better not be "the plan." Shanny can mow his own frigging lawn, and I'll spend the $200 bucks on something else.

[DBroncos4life]

signing bonus is just that. he's young, he's healthy, and we probably offered him something similar last year, before his big head and dumb new agents talked him into a big meaningless contract that he'd never see a dime from.

maybe he's learned his lesson. I tell you one thing, I won't mind having his speed on the field again. we need some meat at LB, but speed kills. and if we're running a zone-blitz, we need fast LB's that can line-up anywhere, blow around the line, and blast the QB. Gold was good for plenty of that, when used right. all of a sudden everybody thinks he's a NFL Europe player because he's not DE sized.

we got a solid DT. Gerard is right up there with Pryce on potential and talent level. if we can work him into a contract extension with incentives, he might be a HOF'er for us. but that's not good enough? that's the best spent 4th-round pick I've ever seen.

you want to overpay for a DE? do you think Hayward (a one-dimensional player that got a lot of help from our scheme, just like Berry) is worth $12-mill? or whatever he got. he found a team & situation he liked, he gets to be a part of an incredible defense in JAX, on an up-and-coming squad. maybe he left because he wanted to move to Florida instead of the mountains...

and we can't get guys if they don't want to come here.

there has been ONE DAY of free agency. we traded a 4th-rd. pick for a potential franchise DT who'll cost us 2-mill. we still have the rights to Pryce, and we'll either get a pick out of them, or get him at a fair-market-value deal in a restructure, when the big guy realizes nobody else wants him. we'll get Okafor, who'll be just as good as Hayward & Berry, another pass-rush specialist who needs help and can't do much else, and we'll get him alot cheaper than Reggie & Bert would cost.

we've got the secondary we need. we can get by with Fergie & Lynch, Kennedy helps, and our corners should stay about the same. we've got the LB's we need. funny that we're already writing off Pierce as a bust because he wasn't ready to start as a rookie over the captain of our defense.

trust me. the front office is working. they aren't playing golf or watching cartoons. they're making calls, and they're finding guys who'll make this team better, that aren't really over-valued. they have a limited amount of money to spend and a lot of areas on the team to address. and the options are numerous when you're trying to deal a guy like Pryce, anything can happen. we could get another Bailey deal, or make moves in the draft, or re-do his contract.

it's EARLY. calm the hell down. start complaining in July if you think we really are going to suck because somebody STOLE a free agent.

of all these guys we 'want' that signed elsewhere, who do you think was worth what they got and would have worked well on our team?

I'd rather have GW for $2-mill than Pat Williams for $6/per.


First off Hayward got 5 mill a year a far cry from 12 that you are talking about. Second we have tried this SPEED at LB spot for number of years and I'll have to tell you ITS NOT WORKING! Reggie was far from being just a pass rusher. In fact if you go look over the totals of our Dline in tackles you will see that Haywards totals will be a high for the last 3 ****ing years. He had 49 last year second along the line had 20 something! Give me a break Hayward is worth more then Gold ever will be.

[Rascal]

I was thinking about getting direct ticket for football next year...screw that. If we sign Gold and don't address the d-line I'm sending a letter to the broncos that I am boycotting them for being freaking retarded...they arent going to get my money to throw it towards retreats.

Where in the hell is that fire shanny thread?

[Raider Bill]

Pollack only weighed in at like 265 lbs right? He'd get housed as a 3-4 end lining head up on a tackle. Lard assed Warren Sapp was having trouble holding his ground as a 2 gap end. Pollack would be a speedbump in a 3-4 as a DE.

[Hotrod]

I guess not only are my FA dreams now officially smashed into the mud but my hopes of Denver going after Pollack are gone as well. Ah well there is alway hockey to get me ah damn it all down to watching the Rockies chase a division errr crap someone pass me some prozac.

[Ratboy]

I'd stil call the FA a success if we can bring in Ken Lucas and address the defensive line in FA

[NaptownChief]

I'd stil call the FA a success if we can bring in Ken Lucas and address the defensive line in FA


You guys got BIG MONEY....What more do you need? ;D

[Ratboy]

You guys got BIG MONEY....What more do you need? ;D

More money :(

[DBroncos4life]

Scrap the Dline and bring in Law and Lucas.

[ro_50]

if we get okeafor, I will be happy. I dont mind bringing Gold back, but I hope not with that enormous signing bonus.

[NaptownChief]

The meltdown that will happen if you guys give Gold $8-10million s/b will probably be similar to the one that will happen over on the Planet if Peterson comes up empty handed again in the Free Agent market on Trotter/Hartwell and a CB like Rolle/Smoot/Lucas.

My guess is the mullet head GM will under bid every quality player early then once losing out on all the players worth having he will come in at the end and grossly overpay a bum out of desparation.

[Mile High Shack]

The meltdown that will happen if you guys give Gold $8-10million s/b will probably be similar to the one that will happen over on the Planet if Peterson comes up empty handed again in the Free Agent market on Trotter/Hartwell and a CB like Rolle/Smoot/Lucas.

My guess is the mullet head GM will under bid every quality player early then once losing out on all the players worth having he will come in at the end and grossly overpay a bum out of desparation.
I was not kidding

I’m going to throw up if this is true, giving Gold this amount of money

[NaptownChief]

I was not kidding

I’m going to throw up if this is true, giving Gold this amount of money


I wouldn't blame you...On paper it would be one of the dumbest moves I have seen ever.

[Mile High Shack]

I wouldn't blame you...On paper it would be one of the dumbest moves I have seen ever.
I’ll never hack on the chiefs again for not signing any D players last year…….that is better than giving Ian freakin’ Gold top tier money

[NaptownChief]

I’ll never hack on the chiefs again for not signing any D players last year…….that is better than giving Ian freakin’ Gold top tier money



I would agree with that..Some times the best moves you can ever make is not making any....but the Chiefs had no business not making any last year and certainly zero excuses this year. My guess is Peterson will get played like a pawn as usual by the agents and come up empty...unless he grossly overpays for player with a wounded wheel that nobody else seriously wanted.

[DBroncos4life]

I sure hope Mobley comes back as well. Warren and Okeafor at the Dline then Wilson, Williams, Pierce, Mobley, and Gold floating around at LB's. Then Lynch, Bailey, Walls, and who ever else playing DB's. Sounds great to me.

[NaptownChief]

I sure hope Mobley comes back as well.


Is this being seriously considered? Sure would be foolish if you ask me. Paralysis certainly isn't something to take lightly. With any discipline at all he should be financially set and should not be taking that kind of risk.

[Mile High Shack]

I sure hope Mobley comes back as well. Warren and Okeafor at the Dline then Wilson, Williams, Pierce, Mobley, and Gold floating around at LB's. Then Lynch, Bailey, Walls, and who ever else playing DB's. Sounds great to me.
While we are at it, let’s dig up Lyle Alzado’s corpse and see if he can still play DT

Let’s have TJ lose a bunch of weight and get into shape and play again.

Mecklenburg should be in ok shape after doing that movie…let’s get him

Simon Fletcher needs to get his name on the ring of fame, so lets’ get him again too

[Mile High Shack]

Is this being seriously considered? Sure would be foolish if you ask me. Paralysis certainly isn't something to take lightly. With any discipline at all he should be financially set and should not be taking that kind of risk.
no he's done

[DBroncos4life]

While we are at it, let’s dig up Lyle Alzado’s corpse and see if he can still play DT

Let’s have TJ lose a bunch of weight and get into shape and play again.

Mecklenburg should be in ok shape after doing that movie…let’s get him

Simon Fletcher needs to get his name on the ring of fame, so lets’ get him again too



Well some of those guys should be fresh...well everyone but Lyle but thats nothing a care air freshener wont take care of.

[NaptownChief]

no he's done



That's good...That would have been crazy.

[Traveler]

no he's done


Doctors told him he couldn't play anymore. Filed his retirement papers sometime last week. At least that's what was said by Shefter on the NFL Network. Can't verify if that true or not.

[DBroncos4life]

Allen Rossum - DB - Falcons


Allen Rossum visited with the Chargers Wednesday.
San Diego puts a premium on special teams and would love to replace Tim Dwight with Rossum, one of the best in the league. Mar. 3 - 1:55 pm et
Source: San Diego Union-Tribune






Edward Jasper - DL - Falcons


Falcons DT Ed Jasper will not retire, but he's unlikely to return to the Falcons.
He's visiting the Raiders this week. Mar. 3 - 1:19 pm et
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution




Kurt Warner - QB - Giants


Kurt Warner will visit with the Lions this weekend.
It appears Detroit has their choice of backups: Warner, Jeff Garcia, and Brad Johnson all like what they see in Detroit. They have a great supporting cast and a chance to play. Warner met with Arizona Wednesday and will visit Chicago Friday. Mar. 3 - 1:16 pm et

[DBroncos4life]

Derrick Blaylock - RB - Chiefs


Derrick Blaylock is meeting with the Texans today, and is talking to the Jets and Bucs.
Tampa Bay or New York would be interesting fits for Blaylock. He could still be a usefull fantasy reserve in leagues that award points for receptions. Mar. 3 - 2:41 pm et
Source: Tampa Tribune

[DBroncos4life]

Joe Jurevicius - WR - Buccaneers


The Giants are looking in to bringing back Joe Jurevicius.
Jurevicius says staying in Tampa is his first choice and will try to work something out there. Mar. 3 - 2:49 pm et
Source: Tampa Tribune






Larry Ned - RB - Cardinals


Cardinals claimed RB Larry Ned and CB Rhett Nelson off waivers from the Vikings.
Both may face an uphill battle to make the opening week roster. Mar. 3 - 2:46 pm et




Greg Spires - DL - Buccaneers


The Bucs and DT Greg Spires continue to talk about restructuring his contract.
Spires thought he had a deal to be released, but the Bucs want to keep him. Look for them to find a way to make it happen. Mar. 3 - 2:44 pm et
Source: Tampa Tribune

[DBroncos4life]

Ken Lucas - DB - Seahawks


The Panthers are trying to sign former Seahawk cornerback Ken Lucas.
Lucas is a solid corner who had a nice IDP season with six interceptions. He'd be a good partner for Ricky Manning Jr. Mar. 3 - 3:06 pm et
Source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer

[Rascal]

damn the freaking panthers...looks like they are going to sign Lucas as well.

The Panthers are trying to sign former Seahawk cornerback Ken Lucas.
Lucas is a solid corner who had a nice IDP season with six interceptions. He'd be a good partner for Ricky Manning Jr. Mar. 3 - 3:06 pm et
Source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer

[BroncoFiend]

damn the freaking panthers...looks like they are going to sign Lucas as well.

The Panthers are trying to sign former Seahawk cornerback Ken Lucas.
Lucas is a solid corner who had a nice IDP season with six interceptions. He'd be a good partner for Ricky Manning Jr. Mar. 3 - 3:06 pm et
Source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer

Did the Panthers draft a CB in the first last year? Gamble right? I heard he did well, I'm suprised by that signing.

Not like he was even on our radar, I'd rather have Walls as long as he's healthy.

[Rascal]

Well with Moss going to the faid and our sucky d-line we needed to target him. We will regret not getting him when the Chargers get Mike Williams.

[Hotrod]

While we are at it, let’s dig up Lyle Alzado’s corpse and see if he can still play DT

Let’s have TJ lose a bunch of weight and get into shape and play again.

Mecklenburg should be in ok shape after doing that movie…let’s get him

Simon Fletcher needs to get his name on the ring of fame, so lets’ get him again too


LOL does Taco have a weight problem I was not aware of this rofl

[BroncoFiend]

Well with Moss going to the faid and our sucky d-line we needed to target him. We will regret not getting him when the Chargers get Mike Williams.

I really don't think Mike Williams will fall to them, either way, I don't see investing big money at CB to be a priority. we have pretty good quality there right now, all we need is depth.

[Rascal]

if we don't get a d-line we are going to need more then depth at the secondary.

[Rascal]

well great..Kevin Carter is about to sign with the dolphins.

The market for Pryce is about zip.

Kevin Carter visited the Dolphins about possibly joining the team.
The Dolphins are looking for defensive lineman with versatility. The Titans are still interested in re-signing him. Mar. 3 - 3:25 pm et
Source: Miami Herald

[DBroncos4life]

Kevin Carter - DL - Titans


Kevin Carter visited the Dolphins about possibly joining the team.
The Dolphins are looking for defensive lineman with versatility. The Titans are still interested in re-signing him. Mar. 3 - 3:25 pm et
Source: Miami Herald

[Traveler]

Wahle signs with the Panthers per KFFL. Hope this wasn't posted already.

[Rascal]

there was no confirmation that he had sign, just speculation.

So pretty everybody that was targeted has been signed by someone else.

Great!

And in the mean time the Broncos sign an undersized midget LB and a piece of trash blowing away any cap space and possibility of getting anything else.

[DBroncos4life]

Itula Mili - TE - Seahawks


The Cardinals are entertaining four free agents today: linebacker Orlando Huff, tight end Itula Mili, offensive tackle Oliver Ross, and quarterback Kurt Warner.
They are keeping with their promise of not going nuts in free agency. Mili makes sense as a replacement for Freddie Jones. Mar. 3 - 3:41 pm et
Source: AzCardinals.com






Plaxico Burress - WR - Steelers


Plaxico Burress may not sign with any team for a few days.
The best candidates to sign him are the Vikings and Giants. But rumors of a deal in Minnesota appear premature. Mar. 3 - 3:36 pm et




Brad Hopkins - T - Titans


Brad Hopkins extended his contract with the Titans for three years.
The deal helped Tennesee's cap situationthis season. With the way the deal is constructed, he will probably have to restructure again after 2006. Mar. 3 - 3:28 pm et
Source: Nashville Tennessean

[DBroncos4life]

Cosey Coleman - G - Buccaneers


Punter Kyle Richardson and guard Cosey Coleman visited the Browns Thursday.
Cleveland is trying to bulk up their offensive line before doing anything else. It's doubtful they'll make any splashy free agency picks except at quarterback. Mar. 3 - 3:43 pm et
Source: ClevelandBrowns.com

[Traveler]

Panthers | Wahle Agrees to Terms - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:13:41 -0800

Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer, reports the Carolina Panthers have agreed to terms with free agent G Mike Wahle (Packers). Terms of the deal weren't available immediately, but it's believed Wahle was seeking a signing bonus in excess of $10 million.

[NaptownChief]

KFFL is reporting that Hartwell did officially vist the Chiefs yesterday along with Trotter....A Hartwell signing would certainly warm my "Hart".

[Ratboy]

Damn those Panthers! I want Ken Lucas!

[Hotrod]

I wonder if we still have enough cap space after the Ian debacle to throw a few mil signing bonus at that crappy kicker whats his name baker barker. Maybe we can tie him up for several years.

4 mil sig bonus
5 years 25 million

[Bronco LB 59]

I thought Leonardo Carson was one of the biggest bargain DTs on the free agent market and he's going back to Dallas for a dirt cheap, one year contract


FROM ESPN

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2004103

Dallas Cowboys: Unrestricted free agent defensive tackle Leonardo Carson, who started a career-high 15 games in 2004, has re-signed with the Cowboys. Carson received a one-year, $1 million contract.

A five-year veteran, Carson spent the first 3½ seasons of his career with the Chargers but was released midway through the 2003 campaign, and signed with the Cowboys. Carson is a tough inside player against the run, a player most effective in a time-sharing or backup role, and a veteran who adds depth.

He posted 43 tackles and one-half sack in 2004. For his career, Carson has 129 tackles, 8½ sacks and four fumble recoveries. He has played in 64 games with 34 starts. With the Cowboys set to switch to a 3-4 front in 2005, Carson likely will be a backup.

[Ratboy]

NFL | Jasper Not Retiring; Drawing Interest - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:08:47 -0800

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports free agent DT Ed Jasper (Falcons) will definitely play in 2005, according to his agent, after hinting he would retire this offseason. Jasper has reportedly drawn interest from several NFL teams after recently being released by the Atlanta Falcons.

[Hotrod]

NFL | Jasper Not Retiring; Drawing Interest - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:08:47 -0800

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports free agent DT Ed Jasper (Falcons) will definitely play in 2005, according to his agent, after hinting he would retire this offseason. Jasper has reportedly drawn interest from several NFL teams after recently being released by the Atlanta Falcons.

Lets see hes almost retired check
hes been cut check

Seems to meet Shannys requirements I say we throw some big $ at him ugh!~

[bendog]

I think shanny needs to throw in the 6rd pick too.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

well great..Kevin Carter is about to sign with the dolphins.

The market for Pryce is about zip.


Any team that wanted Reggie is in market for Pryce. Denver could help the situation out by getting Okeafor too.

[Rascal]

I'd almost rather get Fisher and Douglas then Okeafor.

[bendog]

well, my original wish was that Pryce would be ok and renegot, and we'd add some guy like Okeafer and keep Heyward for the rotation between the two. Adding Big Ass in the middle is good, but falawful is just a two gap hold-the-guys-off-of-Wilson body.

they hybrid defense is great in concept, but you need 3 two gap DTs with a couple more jouneymen for the rotation (okeafer not) and 2 tweeners who can rush or play zone.

Gold doesn't fit that, nor will Big Ass play NT.

So, maybe they look to Jax, where the fatties collapse the middle (which is a great way to stop the 5 step, and personally the way I'd go instead of the NE model) ... but then Den would've gone for Ferguson or another DT. The ones we have just don't have the strength.

So Gold doesn't fit.

They could have two fatties hold the center of the field, two upfield rush guys at DE, and add Gold for more coverage ... hoping that the DE's could get enough pressure to keep manning or brady from picking the zone to death. But, Gold behind Okeafer..... I'd run it right at em, if I was Oak or KC or SD.

[Pezman]

Ok, original post updated to reflect today's changes...

[Rascal]

lucas signed with the panthers pez, but good work that has to be a pain in the butt

[Rascal]

The Laveranues Coles-for-Santana Moss trade is reportedly back in negotiations.
The Redskins are speaking to Coles' agent, probably about an extension. Fox Sports says the deal is ''50/50'' to get done. Mar. 3 - 4:54 pm et
Source: FoxSports.com

Ike Hilliard - WR - NYG


Giants released WR Ike Hilliard.
A move that came at least a year too late. Hilliard is a prototype veterand that could help a team as a No. 4 type receiver for depth. But he's no longer a starter. Mar. 3 - 4:49 pm et

Mike Wahle - G - CAR


Panthers signed guard Mike Wahle, formerly of the Packers, to a five-year deal worth roughly $25 million.
He will reportedly get a $10 million signing bonus and try to make the conversion to tackle. Considered one of the best lineman in football, Wahle should shore up Carolina's biggest problem area from 2004. Mar. 3 - 4:45 pm et

Ken Lucas - DB - SEA


Panthers signed cornerback Ken Lucas, formerly of the Seahawks, to a six-year contract.
The deal is reportedly for six-years and $36 million, with a $13 million signing bonus. We are big fans of Lucas, who fits in perfectly in Carolina, but that is another monster deal. What are Samari Rolle and Fred Smoot worth now? Either way, the Panthers defense has their best pair of corners since John Fox arrived. They'll be a trendy Super Bowl pick. Mar. 3 - 4:40 pm et

[Pezman]

The Laveranues Coles-for-Santana Moss trade is reportedly back in negotiations.
The Redskins are speaking to Coles' agent, probably about an extension. Fox Sports says the deal is ''50/50'' to get done. Mar. 3 - 4:54 pm et
Source: FoxSports.com

Ike Hilliard - WR - NYG


Giants released WR Ike Hilliard.
A move that came at least a year too late. Hilliard is a prototype veterand that could help a team as a No. 4 type receiver for depth. But he's no longer a starter. Mar. 3 - 4:49 pm et

Mike Wahle - G - CAR


Panthers signed guard Mike Wahle, formerly of the Packers, to a five-year deal worth roughly $25 million.
He will reportedly get a $10 million signing bonus and try to make the conversion to tackle. Considered one of the best lineman in football, Wahle should shore up Carolina's biggest problem area from 2004. Mar. 3 - 4:45 pm et

Ken Lucas - DB - SEA


Panthers signed cornerback Ken Lucas, formerly of the Seahawks, to a six-year contract.
The deal is reportedly for six-years and $36 million, with a $13 million signing bonus. We are big fans of Lucas, who fits in perfectly in Carolina, but that is another monster deal. What are Samari Rolle and Fred Smoot worth now? Either way, the Panthers defense has their best pair of corners since John Fox arrived. They'll be a trendy Super Bowl pick. Mar. 3 - 4:40 pm et

Thanks for the update Rascal :thumbsup: I missed that one completely

[bendog]

anybody get the ferguson to dullass for 9 mil note?

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/DAL/8249290

[Rascal]

Cowboys signed guard Marco Rivera, formerly of the Packers, to a five-year contract worth $20 million.
At 32, Rivera tied the largest signing bonus ever for a guard, $9 million. The Cowboys probably overpaid again, but the right side of their offensive line was their biggest weakness last year. They need to protect Bledsoe. All signs point towards Parcells trying to go out in a blaze of glory in the next two years before leaving the franchise in rough shape. Mar. 3 - 5:14 pm et

The price for Demulling just went up beyond our price range. Thanks for sitting on your ass and letting the market decide what the guys value will be shanny instead of being proactive you freaking moron. And the guy even contacted us saying he was interested. This is so frustrating.

[bendog]

Cowboys signed guard Marco Rivera, formerly of the Packers, to a five-year contract worth $20 million.
At 32, Rivera tied the largest signing bonus ever for a guard, $9 million. The Cowboys probably overpaid again, but the right side of their offensive line was their biggest weakness last year. They need to protect Bledsoe. All signs point towards Parcells trying to go out in a blaze of glory in the next two years before leaving the franchise in rough shape. Mar. 3 - 5:14 pm et

The price for Demulling just went up beyond our price range. Thanks for sitting on your ass and letting the market decide what the guys value will be shanny instead of being proactive you freaking moron. And the guy even contacted us saying he was interested. This is so frustrating.

Neil's coming back, and I just never saw Den spending money on a FA guard. Prolly try to work Cooper in at Neil's spot, and he might do ok, with Neil the fallback.

[Rascal]

when a top notch player contacts you and says he is interested in joining you and you don't even return the phone call their is something severely ****ed up. Who knows what he would have been willing to sign for if we never even talked to him. Give me demulling anyday over neil, hamilton, or cooper.

Neil can barely move, hamilton is out of position, and cooper is...average.

[Ratboy]

Broncos | Okeafor to Visit - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:15:40 -0800

Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports free agent DE Chike Okeafor (Seahawks) is scheduled to visit the Denver Broncos Thursday, March 3.



Anyone here if Broncos have offered him or not?

[HEAV]

Ike Hillard (WR) Giants, is to be cut after refusing a lower contract.

[NFLBRONCO]

Question why are you so upset with Denver. We have been doing dumb moves waiting for garbage in FA for last several years. I honestly expected this kind of offseason by the present day Broncos. Denver blew too much money on lousy players. I am frustrated deep down too but, I figure unless Mike moves on this is the product we will get here. Unless we move or restructure Pryce we will not do much in FA.

[Bronco LB 59]

when a top notch player contacts you and says he is interested in joining you and you don't even return the phone call their is something severely ****ed up. Who knows what he would have been willing to sign for if we never even talked to him. Give me demulling anyday over neil, hamilton, or cooper.

Neil can barely move, hamilton is out of position, and cooper is...average.


DeMulling is #1 on my list too of all the FAs that are likely to sign with the Broncos. I thought he was the best offensive lineman on the Colts this year. He's mobile and it would be nice to put a dent in the Colts' fort up front.

Bendog made a great point though. Denver rarely invests a lot in an offensive lineman aside from the Tony Jones for a 2nd round pick trade and the 1st round selection of George Foster.

They have never put much investment into an interior lineman.

[TheDave]

DeMulling is #1 on my list too of all the FAs that are likely to sign with the Broncos. I thought he was the best offensive lineman on the Colts this year. He's mobile and it would be nice to put a dent in the Colts' fort up front.

Bendog made a great point though. Denver rarely invests a lot in an offensive lineman aside from the Tony Jones for a 2nd round pick trade and the 1st round selection of George Foster.

They have never put much investment into an interior lineman.

Draft Baas and the interior O-Line is fixed for very little $

[Rascal]

Draft Baas and the interior O-Line is fixed for very little $

and how do you plan on addressing the d-line then since everybody else is gone?

everybody else is saying we need to draft Pollack, Castillo, Canty, Cody, etc? how you plan on getting baas along with those d-line guys?

Fact is we have to many holes to fix in draft alone, and the players to fix the holes in FA are going fast with us sitting on our hands picking our nose.

[TheDave]

and how do you plan on addressing the d-line then since everybody else is gone?

everybody else is saying we need to draft Pollack, Castillo, Canty, Cody, etc? how you plan on getting baas along with those d-line guys?

Fact is we have to many holes to fix in draft alone, and the players to fix the holes in FA are going fast with us sitting on our hands picking our nose.

Easy killer, I'm still trying to figure out what defense we are running next year...3-4, 4-3, 2-5... Who knows? Until I have some type of idea what they are trying to accomplish, i don't have a clue who we should target. I do know that shanahans greatest weakness in the draft is D-Linemen so sue me for taking the safe pick and shoring up our O-Line for a decade or so.

[Hotrod]

and how do you plan on addressing the d-line then since everybody else is gone?

everybody else is saying we need to draft Pollack, Castillo, Canty, Cody, etc? how you plan on getting baas along with those d-line guys?

Fact is we have to many holes to fix in draft alone, and the players to fix the holes in FA are going fast with us sitting on our hands picking our nose.


I think that about sums it up right there. I guess its time for us to relax and enjoy a repeat preformance of the last 2 years. Hey if were lucky we can get raped by the Colts in the first round again. That would have to set some kind of NFL record I would think.

Wheres the Fire Shanny thread

[Hotrod]

Easy killer, I'm still trying to figure out what defense we are running next year...3-4, 4-3, 2-5... Who knows? Until I have some type of idea what they are trying to accomplish, i don't have a clue who we should target. I do know that shanahans greatest weakness in the draft is D-Linemen so sue me for taking the safe pick and shoring up our O-Line for a decade or so.

Your still trying to figure out what D were running next year. Good when you figure it out you should let Ted and Shanny know since its becoming obvious they have not a clue themselves. ;D

Wheres the Fire Shanny Thread

[Rascal]

Easy killer, I'm still trying to figure out what defense we are running next year...3-4, 4-3, 2-5... Who knows? Until I have some type of idea what they are trying to accomplish, i don't have a clue who we should target. I do know that shanahans greatest weakness in the draft is D-Linemen so sue me for taking the safe pick and shoring up our O-Line for a decade or so.

That's the point you are still trying to decide and so is everybody else because Dove valley isn't doing anything. There is no plan anymore the guys they targeted have already been taken. Now we will get retreads and told by shanny that they are great players at a discount.

[HEAV]

Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports the Seattle Seahawks are attempting to trade veteran LB Anthony Simmons before he is due a $500,000 roster bonus Monday, March 7. As reported, Simmons is expected to be released soon.

[Bronco LB 59]

Rams sign another speed linebacker. Except Claiborne has been a major disapointment and here's another team hoping to bank on his top 10 pick talent.

The Rams had two smurfs in Robert Thomas and Pisa Tinosamoa who had trouble shedding blockers and they added two more backers that share the same problems.


Rams | Claiborne Signs Three-Year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:41:10 -0800

ESPNews reports the St. Louis Rams have signed free agent LB Chris Claiborne (Vikings) to a three-year, $10.5 million contract.

[TheDave]

There is no plan anymore the guys they targeted have already been taken.

How do you know who they targeted?

[HEAV]

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports the St. Louis Rams are working on scheduling a visit with free agent S Bhawoh Jue (Packers).

[Mile High Shack]

How do you know who they targeted?
Some of our “insiders” who say they know some inside info said as much

They were targeting some specific players and we haven’t got any of them

[HEAV]

USAToday.com reports the Jacksonville Jaguars have released FB Marc Edwards.


USAToday.com reports the Jacksonville Jaguars have released CB Dewayne Washington.


USAToday.com reports the Jacksonville Jaguars have released CB Juran Bolden.

[Hotrod]

How do you know who they targeted?

Ya your right when Ted said that the Dline was a priority we should have know it meant squat.

Shanny: Hey Ted what do you think we should do with this extra $

Ted: Well old buddy we could us some help on the dline this year and there are a few good men out there.

Shanny: They dont call me the mastermind for nothing Teddy Im gonna out smart them all. Heres the plan. You go tell the press we have a master plan to fix the dline since thats what anyone with a brain would expect us to do. Then we will throw them all a curve and over pay for the services of a LB who treated us like crap awhile back.

Ted: Thats genius then when the fans get all upset because the whole offseason is a joke we can pick up some bum dlineman and tell them hes about to break out.

Shanny: thats great Teddy just to top it off I bet we can sucker Patty into letting us give that midget LB whats his face 8 or 10 mil signing bonus.

Ted: Hey Shanny do you think we can get Midget boy to insist on playing DJ's spot and make him move to a new position just for fun.

[TheDave]

Some of our “insiders” who say they know some inside info said as much

They were targeting some specific players and we haven’t got any of them

My bad... Note to self: listen to the "Insiders" so that I can get my panties in a wad later...

[TheDave]

Ya your right when Ted said that the Dline was a priority we should have know it meant squat.

Shanny: Hey Ted what do you think we should do with this extra $

Ted: Well old buddy we could us some help on the dline this year and there are a few good men out there.

Shanny: They dont call me the mastermind for nothing Teddy Im gonna out smart them all. Heres the plan. You go tell the press we have a master plan to fix the dline since thats what anyone with a brain would expect us to do. Then we will throw them all a curve and over pay for the services of a LB who treated us like crap awhile back.

Ted: Thats genius then when the fans get all upset because the whole offseason is a joke we can pick up some bum dlineman and tell them hes about to break out.

Shanny: thats great Teddy just to top it off I bet we can sucker Patty into letting us give that midget LB whats his face 8 or 10 mil signing bonus.

Ted: Hey Shanny do you think we can get Midget boy to insist on playing DJ's spot and make him move to a new position just for fun.

Wow...

[Hotrod]

Wow...


There now you have listened to this insider go get your panties wadded :-*

[easymobee]

David Patten to the Skins ....

[HEAV]

The Redskins intensified their search for a receiver by welcoming free agent David Patten to Redskins Park for a visit, but the focus on the second day of free agency remained on Gibbs' desire to retain players he has described as "core Redskins."

Cornerback Fred Smoot was testing the free agent waters, seeking to find a better offer than the $10.3 million signing bonus offered by the Redskins. Receiver Laveranues Coles, unhappy with Gibbs' conservative offense, continues to seek a way out of Washington, possibly in a trade with the New York Jets.

[HEAV]

Dave Hutchinson, of The Star-Ledger, reports the New York Jets have signed unrestricted free agent RB Derrick Blaylock (Chiefs) to a five-year, $11.1 million contract that includes a signing bonus of $3.2 million.

[labronx]

Ike Hillard (WR) Giants, is to be cut after refusing a lower contract.


I want him bad!!! ~Popps~

[Traveler]

This just in! Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan has a plan for the defensive line acquisitions so desperately needed. ~Popps~

Hurry up and wait! Spend limited cap dollars on positions of strength. Wrap the rest with duct tape and hope for the best! :kiddingme ??? :dummy:

[labronx]

this site is nutts!!!!!:vermeil:Ha!:crazy:Nnyah!

you guys are about rip each others panties off while Shanny and Sundquist keep working under the raider...ooopsss i meant radar

LOL

[Traveler]

Thursday, March 3, 2005
Broncos Officially Acquire Warren
Fourth-Rounder Sent to Browns for Former No. 3 Pick
By Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Gerard Warren is officially a Bronco.

Thursday, the Broncos and Browns confirmed the deal which had been the subject of much public speculation in recent days.

The Broncos sent a fourth-round draft pick in April's NFL Draft to Cleveland in exchange for Warren, whom the Browns drafted with the No. 3 overall pick in 2001.

The trade reunites Warren with his position coach of the past two seasons, Andre Patterson, who joined the Broncos' staff in February to work with the defensive front.

"He has matured in a bunch of ways over the two years that I was coaching him," Patterson said. "Hopefully here it can go all the way. I think with the veteran leadership we have in the locker room down here, with Coach Shanahan as the head coach and me and Jacob Burney being here, I think that's a good support system for him."

Warren started 59 of 60 games in which he played for the Browns over the past four seasons, including 13 contests last year. He missed three games last fall with a strained pectoral muscle; those were the first injury-caused absences of his professional career.

He notched 16.5 sacks, amassed 247 total tackles and 114 quarterback pressures for the Browns. Nine and a half of his sacks came during the last two years, and he also set a career high last autumn with three forced fumbles after causing two fumbles in the first three seasons of his career.

"He's excited about the possibility of being able to be here," Patterson said. "He knows what this organization is all about."

[Traveler]

Gerrard Warren traded from Browns to Broncos
John Clayton's analysis: for Broncos; for Browns.
The move: DT Gerard Warren traded from the Cleveland Browns to the Denver Broncos for a fourth-round pick.

The upside
Broncos: The Broncos acquired an aggressive, nasty defensive tackle who was the No. 3 overall pickin the 2001 draft. Warren has underachieved in the past couple of years, but he is a talent. At 325 pounds, he has the size to be a nose tackle. He has the athletic ability to dominated. Mike Shanahan is hoping to rekindle his career in the Mile High City as the Broncos shift to a 3-4.
Browns: They tired of Warren, who had more bark than bite. With Romeo Crennel now in charge, the Browns are looking for overachievers. This isn't to say Warren can't do well in Denver. He has the talent. To not get a pick in the first day of the draft for a player taken that high is an admission that Warren was a bust with the Browns. Phil Savage is trying to stock pile picks in the draft and that's a good thing.

The downside
Broncos: They have been burned before by making bold moves on players who haven't worked out on other teams or have had some difficulties. Dale Carter and Daryl Gardener are just a couple of the examples. In some ways, you wonder what's going on along the Broncos' defensive line. The Broncos cry for pass-rushers, but they let ends Bertrand Berry and Reggie Hayward go. They are trying to trade their best defensive lineman, Trevor Pryce. Puzzling.
Browns: This isn't a great fourth-round selection, not being toward the top of the round. All the Browns can hope is to get a project for the offensive line or maybe a player who can help out on special teams.

Clayton's take: The Browns probably needed to move Warren because Courtney Brown is untradable because of his high cap number and history of injuries. Call this one a wash. The Broncos have the better chance of succeeding because they are getting a quality talent who is still young

[Ratboy]

Chargers | Jue Comes Aboard - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:45:35 -0800

The San Diego Chargers have signed free agent S Bhawoh Jue (Packers) to a three-year contract, reports Chargers.com. Financial terms of the deal were not released.

[Ratboy]

My idea..

Keep Pryce and trade him the 5th week of the 06' season.

Lets show teams that he;s healthy and still a powerhouse. If Pryce comes puts pressure on the QB for those 5 weeks and gets some sacks, He'll be easier to trade. If he physically can't play? Release him.

Pryce can be a force! If we also Sign Okeafor our Defensive Line will be pretty nice (Okeafor, Warren, Johnson, Pryce).

We can also draft a DE (for when we release/trade pryce).

[HEAV]

The Raiders have released G Ron Stone and LB DeLawrence Grant.

[Tombstone RJ]

Gerrard Warren traded from Browns to Broncos
John Clayton's analysis: for Broncos; for Browns.
The move: DT Gerard Warren traded from the Cleveland Browns to the Denver Broncos for a fourth-round pick.

The upside
Broncos: The Broncos acquired an aggressive, nasty defensive tackle who was the No. 3 overall pickin the 2001 draft. Warren has underachieved in the past couple of years, but he is a talent. At 325 pounds, he has the size to be a nose tackle. He has the athletic ability to dominated. Mike Shanahan is hoping to rekindle his career in the Mile High City as the Broncos shift to a 3-4.
Browns: They tired of Warren, who had more bark than bite. With Romeo Crennel now in charge, the Browns are looking for overachievers. This isn't to say Warren can't do well in Denver. He has the talent. To not get a pick in the first day of the draft for a player taken that high is an admission that Warren was a bust with the Browns. Phil Savage is trying to stock pile picks in the draft and that's a good thing.

The downside
Broncos: They have been burned before by making bold moves on players who haven't worked out on other teams or have had some difficulties. Dale Carter and Daryl Gardener are just a couple of the examples. In some ways, you wonder what's going on along the Broncos' defensive line. The Broncos cry for pass-rushers, but they let ends Bertrand Berry and Reggie Hayward go. They are trying to trade their best defensive lineman, Trevor Pryce. Puzzling.
Browns: This isn't a great fourth-round selection, not being toward the top of the round. All the Browns can hope is to get a project for the offensive line or maybe a player who can help out on special teams.

Clayton's take: The Browns probably needed to move Warren because Courtney Brown is untradable because of his high cap number and history of injuries. Call this one a wash. The Broncos have the better chance of succeeding because they are getting a quality talent who is still young

Say what you want about Clayton, but he hits the nail on the head. What the hell are the Broncos thinking letting Pryce and Hayward go? Berry was let go because the Broncos couldn't match the Card's up front money, ok, fine, I'll buy that.

But letting Pryce go when his trade value is at its all time lowest is stupid. Letting Hayward walk without trying to at least LOOK like they are trying to keep him is assinine.

The Broncos better keep Pryce. If they let him walk for a third round pick, I'll puke...

[Raider Bill]

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Lions | Garcia in for Physical- from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:45:35 -0800

Jeff Garcia flew in to Detroit to undergo a physical exam.. Word has it that Joey Harrington will be performing said exam.

[DBroncos4life]

Any news on Tim Dwight? He would be nice to have here.

[HEAV]

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Lions | Garcia in for Physical- from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:45:35 -0800

Jeff Garcia flew in to Detroit to undergo a physical exam.. Word has it that Joey Harrington will be performing said exam.

Hijack :threadjac

rofl rofl

[wabbit]

Any news on Tim Dwight? He would be nice to have here.

I'd have to believe they would be afraid that Gerard Warren might inadvertently sit on him

They've probably already sent out warnings & advisories for Quentin Griffin to always hollar; "Hey, big guy" if Warren is lumbering about

Little rebar for the bench wood too I expect

[orange crusher]

My idea..

Keep Pryce and trade him the 5th week of the 06' season.

Lets show teams that he;s healthy and still a powerhouse. If Pryce comes puts pressure on the QB for those 5 weeks and gets some sacks, He'll be easier to trade. If he physically can't play? Release him.

Pryce can be a force! If we also Sign Okeafor our Defensive Line will be pretty nice (Okeafor, Warren, Johnson, Pryce).

We can also draft a DE (for when we release/trade pryce).

The only problem with that is that there is no way to fix our line midseason. If Trevor was still the force of past, it would be hard to trade him in the middle of the season when there would be nobody to sign as a replacement.

[Pezman]

The only problem with that is that there is no way to fix our line midseason. If Trevor was still the force of past, it would be hard to trade him in the middle of the season when there would be nobody to sign as a replacement.

I still think if we do wind up switching to a full time 3-4 defense, its going to be a moot point to sign Trevor back unless its a bargain price.

[Ratboy]

Broncos | Looking at Lehr - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 4 Mar 2005 10:12:48 -0800

Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos are potentially looking at free agent OG Matt Lehr (Rams) at the right guard position. Lehr is expected to visit the Broncos sometime next week.

[Rascal]

never heard of him\

BUT DANG IT GET DEMULLING!!!

[DBroncos4life]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/josh_elliott/03/03/nfl.market/index.html


Read the very last thing on the second page.....well hell I'll tell you it says that Pryce may end up in Seatle soon.

[Rascal]

What Pryce and an okeafor exchange? We would be getting raped. They better be sending us a second rounder or something.

check that okeafor is a FA.

What picks do they have and do they need an undersized midget LB?

[Hotrod]

Id take whatever we can get for him save the cap room and see whats left on the market tomarrow.

[DBroncos4life]

Id take whatever we can get for him save the cap room and see whats left on the market tomarrow.



Like Wiley and Holliday? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[27atwater]

Seattle: 23 and 54 are their 1st 2 pix. I kinda hope we can get their 2nd and 4th, rather than pay for their 1st. I'd like it to try to move up for Merriman, but the Gold signing all but eliminates that possibility. we'll get a Guard (Brown) or a CB (Marlin Jackson) w/ our 25th pick. D-line will be later. If we can add 2 pix from Seattle later on, we can grab guys like Roscoe (KR/PR), Kevin Everitt (TE), and Ware (DE) if he's still around.

[Hotrod]

Like Wiley and Holliday? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


I hate to say this but thats about the size of things in Bronco land right now ugh!~

[Hulamau]

Jeremieh Trotter wound up rsigning with the E-girls for a 5 year deal as reported on ESPN,

Sorry KC fans ugh!~

[HEAV]

Jim Wyatt, of the Tennessean, reports free agent CB Samari Rolle (Titans) could be signing with the Kansas City Chiefs soon. When asked Thursday, March 3, about a time frame for getting a deal done with the Chiefs, Rolle said: "Probably by tomorrow, I think." Rolle wrapped up his visit with the Chiefs Thursday.



Seahawks.com reports the Seattle Seahawks have released LB Anthony Simmons.

Seahawks.com reports the Seattle Seahawks have released S Damien Robinson.



Marc Berman, of KRIV-TV in Houston, reports the Houston Texans are letting LB Jamie Sharper seek a trade following the team's signing of LB Morlon Greenwood.

[HEAV]

Bucs have resigned TE Dave Moore.

[Broncoman13]

Seattle: 23 and 54 are their 1st 2 pix. I kinda hope we can get their 2nd and 4th, rather than pay for their 1st. I'd like it to try to move up for Merriman, but the Gold signing all but eliminates that possibility. we'll get a Guard (Brown) or a CB (Marlin Jackson) w/ our 25th pick. D-line will be later. If we can add 2 pix from Seattle later on, we can grab guys like Roscoe (KR/PR), Kevin Everitt (TE), and Ware (DE) if he's still around.


Not so fast, #23 Travis Johnson, #25 Matt Roth, and #56 Alex Smith (TE) or Kevin Everitt. That would give you a 4-3 line of Matt Roth, Travis Johnson, Gerrard Warren, and Okeafor perhaps. That isn't a great line, but it IS an upgrade over last years. We would still have a good rotation with Fati, Pope, Davis, Johnson, Coleman, and Holland perhaps. I could certainly live with that.

I'm kind of of the mindset that we should jump on Josh Bullocks in the 2nd.... don't know if he'll fall that far though. Ballhawk safety to the rescue!!! I'm really hoping that we get an extra pick in this draft!

[HEAV]

GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP) -- The Green Bay Packers cut defensive back Michael Hawthorne on Friday.

Hawthorne, who played in all 16 games last season, tied for the team lead in forced fumbles with two and had one fumble recovery for a touchdown.

He began the year as the Packers' starting left cornerback before first-round draft pick Ahmad Carroll became the starter in the sixth week.

Hawthorne led Green Bay in special teams tackles with 19. He joined the team as a free agent in 2003 after the New Orleans Saints waived him.

[Slade]

March 4
(7:00 PM): Jets sign RFA TE to sheet... The New York Jets have reportedly signed Denver restricted free agent TE Jeb Putzier to an offer sheet. The Broncos now have a week to either match the offer or receive a 6th round pick in compensation.

http://www.gbnreport.com/

[Ratboy]

Browns | Baxter Signs Six-year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:05:24 -0800

The Cleveland Browns have signed CB Gary Baxter (Ravens) to a six-year contract. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.


I heard it was something around 5 million a year.

[Broncoman13]

Baxter is underrated IMO.... 5 mil per season is a pretty good deal for him. I don't think they lost anything by letting Henry go and replacing him with Baxter.

As for Jeb leaving, I hope the Broncos strongly consider keeping Jeb. I have to admit though, I'm not sure he is worth matching. It just sucks to see a guy that we've pulled for, for the past couple/few years, finally he gets some playing time and then gets a good deal...... mainly b/c the Broncos nutured him and developed him into a decent TE. If he goes then I'm starting to lean more and more toward drafting a TE in the first or second round. If you could prove to me that Matt Jones or Vincent Jackson could come in and make a smooth transition to TE I'd say jump on them in the 2nd!

[Arkie]

If you could prove to me that Matt Jones or Vincent Jackson could come in and make a smooth transition to TE I'd say jump on them in the 2nd!


I guarantee Matt Jones is one of the top 50 football players in this draft. I don't think we will have a shot at him in the 2nd after his receiver workouts later this month. If he's still there in the 2nd, get him. He can excel at TE.

[HEAV]

New York Newsday reports the Jets are talking with CB Ty Law (Patriots), two sources have told Newsday.

[HEAV]

ESPN's Len Pasquarelli reports the New York Giants unofficially floated some contract parameters this week to free-agent WR Plaxico Burress, but their proposal averaged less than $4 million per year and the signing bonus was less than $5 million.

[HEAV]

ESPN's Len Pasquarelli reports free-agent DE Derrick Burgess (Eagles), who had a tremendous postseason with three sacks, is starting to draw attention and will meet with Miami officials next week.

[DawgPound14]

Gary Baxter-6 years/30 mill/ 10.5 mil signing bonus... good deal for a 6'2" 215 corner who can do it all, and do it all well. Finished 3rd on team in tackles the past two seasons and 2nd in '02. Great deal if you ask me... plus it eliminates the rumors of Ty Law comin to town.

[SoCalBronco]

heav, is there any good news at all on the horizon for denver?

[DBroncos4life]

Holliday agrees to deal with Dolphins

By Alex Marvez
Staff Writer
Posted March 5 2005

The Dolphins added potential starters at defensive end and safety Friday and moved closer to a restructured contract with linebacker Junior Seau.

Ex-Kansas City defensive end Vonnie Holliday agreed to terms on a two-year contract, and safety Travares Tillman was signed to a two-year deal. Financial terms were not immediately available.











As for Seau, the Dolphins are expected to finalize an agreement next week that will lower his 2005 salary-cap number of $4.3 million. Seau is slated to earn $3 million this season with a roster bonus of $500,000, which is considered too pricy for a 36-year-old veteran who is projected to assume more of a part-time role in 2005.

Kansas City signed Holliday to a five-year, $21.3 million contract in 2002 after five seasons in Green Bay, which had made him a first-round draft choice in 1998. But Holliday, 29, never made the impact Kansas City had hoped, leading to his recent release for cap reasons.

It's unknown how the Holliday acquisition will affect the Dolphins' pursuit of defensive ends Kevin Carter, Bobby Hamilton and Tony Bryant. The Trenton Times reported Friday that Philadelphia defensive end Derrick Burgess is scheduled to meet Tuesday with the Dolphins.

The Dolphins are hoping Tillman can live up to the promise he has yet to fulfill as a 2000 second-round draft pick by Buffalo. Tillman spent a year out of football after being released by the Bills in the 2002 preseason. He returned with Houston in 2003 and made the roster before being waived and subsequently claimed by Carolina.

Tillman failed to win a starting spot with the Panthers and appeared in only six games last season before going on injured reserve with a broken forearm. Tillman will have the chance to earn a starting spot with 2004 starters Arturo Freeman and Sammy Knight not expected to return.

Knight, who started for the Dolphins the past two years at strong safety, has a free-agent visit scheduled next week to Kansas City.

Seau had double-digit tackles in five of the Dolphins' first eight games last season before landing on injured reserve with a torn pectoral muscle.

The Dolphins also visited with Atlanta free-agent linebacker Matt Stewart.

[DBroncos4life]

Any list of people coming to Denver at all?

[ro_50]

Any list of people coming to Denver at all?

I hope DeMulling is on that list, the guard from the Colts.

[Vegas_Bronco]

So what's Droughns up to these days - is he out there with a broom sweeping off the track for tatum? Any news on this bulldog?

[big56fan#1]

Just Broke: L. Coles traded to Jets for S.Moss pending physicals
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2005788

[Rich Karlis]

Any news on Bubba Franks ?

[HEAV]

No news from Denver. Okeafor left with an offer. But he didn't sign it. He may visit Zona next week.
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Bubba Franks was contacted but his price made Shanahan go into convulsions.
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Droughns has fallen back down to earth. As his agent Drew the devil is working with his bigger client. Edge James.
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The New Orleans Saints have announced the team has reached a deal with unrestricted free agent OT Jermane Mayberry (Eagles) on a four-year contract. Financial details were undisclosed.

[HEAV]

Agian not to beat a dead horse. But's heres a vet with a high cap number reworking his deal!

The NFL Players Association web site is listing a new 2005 base salary for New England Patriot LB Roosevelt Colvin. As reported by Len Pasquarelli of EPSN.com, Colvin’s original contract called for a base salary of $2.6 million for 2005. The NFLPA now lists Colvin’s 2005 salary as $540,000.

[HEAV]

ESPN's Len Pasquarelli reports free-agent DE Bobby Hamilton, a 10-year veteran who has been with four different teams in his career, has reached a contract agreement that will keep him with the Oakland Raiders, for whom he played in 2004. He will officially sign a three-year, $6 million contract early next week.
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Another DE target (cheap one) bites the dust! Also a 3-4 guy older but still better than the current roster.

[SoCalBronco]

thanks for that report on denver heav and the other ones. Good stuff.

[DBroncos4life]

Saints | Mayberry Agrees to Terms - from www.KFFL.com
Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:27:43 -0800

The New Orleans Saints have announced the team has reached a deal with unrestricted free agent OT Jermane Mayberry (Eagles) on a four-year contract. Financial details were undisclosed.

[ro_50]

I wonder how much Denver offered Okeafor.

[Rascal]

2 dollars because that's all the cap room we got after signing that midget linebacker to a cap breaking deal.

With them doing that and not getting anything for Pryce this could be the worst offseason ever. Shanny and Sunquist are a bunch of idiots running around scared with no plan whatsoever.

[FADERPROOF]

ESPN's Len Pasquarelli reports free-agent DE Bobby Hamilton, a 10-year veteran who has been with four different teams in his career, has reached a contract agreement that will keep him with the Oakland Raiders, for whom he played in 2004. He will officially sign a three-year, $6 million contract early next week.
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Another DE target (cheap one) bites the dust! Also a 3-4 guy older but still better than the current roster.

Well, Oakland has officially gone from the 31st defense in the league, to about the 29th.

[16slayer24]

gold was a great signing and maybe we look at wiggins at TE pryce and droughans still with us till further notice lotta positives out there we lost a DE but got speed at backer too run the 3-4 and got a chunky DT as well lotta time left all teams are working caps signing what they think most important i trust in the broncos we are highly competetive every year we must be doing something right laters

[Broncoman13]

Good point..... not enough doom and gloom in your post though. I suggest you study up and read a little before posting again. If you don't have something negative to add don't say anything at all!


LOL