No Ring for T.O.

[Exile_In_SJ]

Oh thank you fo0tball gods, and of course the NE Patriots.

Can you imagine if the NFL's supreme jackass if he'd have gotten an SB winning ring?

I can see the strutting and preening this @sshole would have done had the Eagles won? This guy nearly has a choreographed moment every time he makes a catch, he could be his own halftime show.

I feel bad for McNabb, he seems like a good guy, but I can't root for any team that has a jerk like T.O. on it.

Congrats to the Patriots.

Brady to the hall of fame.

[ZachKC]

Good post.

[Garcia Bronco]

I thought he played one heck of a game.

[Breck Bronc]

Yeah, he didn't deserve one the way he played tonight.

[-Slap-]

Whatever.

If more Eagles had played like TO tonight, they would be celebrating in Philly right now.

[Exile_In_SJ]

But alas, NE had a guy like Branch play the way he did.

The Patriots were just the better team.

[yavoon]

TO owned it up. how about no ring for mcnabb?

[Breck Bronc]

TO owned it up. how about no ring for mcnabb?How about no ring for Andy Reid? They botched the last 5 minutes wasting so much time. And they probably should have kicked off instead of trying the onside kick, but that's too easy to say after the fact.

[bro1ncos]

How can you condemn someone that wanted to come back and try to help his team win? TO could have been a prima donna like John Abraham.

[yavoon'sBoyfriend]

TO owned it up. how about no ring for mcnabb?
omg y dont u come back to bed kthx?

[phillybroncosnut]

The only disappoi9nting thing about TO tonight was that his leg didnt fly off his body, striking him in the head and knocking him out cold.

All that said, he backed up his super star title tonight with a great performance. He's still my second most hated player in the game today.

[Breck Bronc]

omg y dont u come back to bed kthx? Hilarious!

[Kaylore]

omg y dont u come back to bed kthx?
Uh-oh is this that fins' troll again?

[yavoon]

How about no ring for Andy Reid? They botched the last 5 minutes wasting so much time. And they probably should have kicked off instead of trying the onside kick, but that's too easy to say after the fact.

maybe mcnabb can't run 2 minute? I dont know. that was weird. early on in it I thot they were trying to keep mcnabb calm and stop happy feet.

[Jason in LA]

I don't see how anybody can question TO after what he did tonight. The guy has a broken leg, and he was running out there like nothing ever happened. TO is the man. No question about that. It's shocking to think a guy can break a leg, then a month and a half latter go for over 100 yards against the best D in the league. What if he was 100% Yikes!

The Eagles need a better O line if they want to win it all. They couldn't run the ball, and McNabb was pressured often.

[SoCalBronco]

Uh-oh is this that fins' troll again?

No...i really do think that is yavoon's boyfriend.

[Kaylore]

I don't see how anybody can question TO after what he did tonight. The guy has a broken leg, and he was running out there like nothing ever happened. TO is the man. No question about that. It's shocking to think a guy can break a leg, then a month and a half latter go for over 100 yards against the best D in the league. What if he was 100% Yikes!

The Eagles need a better O line if they want to win it all. They couldn't run the ball, and McNabb was pressured often.
You know as much as I hate TO, he puts his money where his mouth is.

[Jason in LA]

Yavoon did say he liked "lil boys", as he calls them. He said it in the '97 Broncos vs. '04 Pats thread.

[phillybroncosnut]

I don't see how anybody can question TO after what he did tonight. The guy has a broken leg, and he was running out there like nothing ever happened. TO is the man. No question about that. It's shocking to think a guy can break a leg, then a month and a half latter go for over 100 yards against the best D in the league. What if he was 100% :yikes

The Eagles need a better O line if they want to win it all. They couldn't run the ball, and McNabb was pressured often.

A) He didnt have a broken leg.
B) he did play a great game against 2 rookie corners. He also had 40 of those yards after the most blatant pick I've ever seen. How the f*ck did the refs miss that?
c) "What is TO was 100%"? What if he were facing Ty Law at 100%?

F*ck TO!

[yavoon]

Yavoon did say he liked "lil boys", as he calls them. He said it in the '97 Broncos vs. '04 Pats thread.

this is why reading comprehension is good. that way things like irony and sarcasm dont escape u. feel free to continue this political campaign against me tho. ur utterly inept at it. "omg look yav is somethign bad dont listen to his points, my points are good! look here!"

[Macnut]

T.O. is a very good player but such a head case. So much so that if Philly won, T.O.'s head would have exploded! Talk about after the game explosions!

[clean]

TO’s presence made it hard for me to fully embrace the Eagles. However, I survived Ray Lewis, Warren Sapp, and Keyshawn Johnson winning a ring. So, I suppose I could handle TO’s mouth if he ever wins a championship.

[-Slap-]

TO’s presence made it hard for me to fully embrace the Eagles. However, I survived Ray Lewis, Warren Sapp, and Keyshawn Johnson winning a ring. So, I suppose I could handle TO’s mouth if he ever wins a Super Bowl.

We had to watch the Raiders hoist the damn Lombardi three times!

I have to admit, I suppressed a chuckle when Pete Rozelle had to hand the trophy to Greasy Al, though. He looked like he was ready to throw up.

[Exile_In_SJ]

no one' ever question the quality of play Terrell Owens puts on the field. He's a great receiver, like Randy Moss.

Like Randy Moss, and even moreso, Terrell owens is a Jackass. He was a jackass with the 49ers, and he's stilla jackass with the Eagles. I hope whatever team he's with doesn't do well.

I prefer a guy like Rod Smith who's owned up to his mistakes and is a very good receiver and is still humble. Owens has alwasy been a jerk and will always be one.
Too bad for the Eagles, he's on their team. I'm glad he's not a Bronco.

[Clockwork Orange]

TO played a hell of a game and deserves credit for that.

That said, I'm glad he isn't sitting on my television right now pulling a Meshawn Johnson in telling us all about how he's got a Super Bowl ring.

What I'm really enjoying though is the fact that Rodney Harrison caught as many of Donovan McNabb's passes as Freddie Mitchell did. Maybe that'll teach that puke Mitchell a thing or two about the virtues of keeping his piehole shut.

[azbroncfan]

Like him or not he's probably the best reciever in the league. Moss has more talent but do you think he would of played with a damaged ankle let alone go over the middle healthy.

[gunns]

A) He didnt have a broken leg.
B) he did play a great game against 2 rookie corners. He also had 40 of those yards after the most blatant pick I've ever seen. How the f*ck did the refs miss that?
c) "What is TO was 100%"? What if he were facing Ty Law at 100%?

F*ck TO!

From NFL.com:

Owens caught a 7-yard pass on Philadelphia's second play against the New England Patriots -- his first action since he severely sprained his ankle and broke his leg in a game against Dallas on Dec. 19.

I'm definitely not a TO fan, in fact I'm thrilled that he did not get his ring, but he played very well tonight considering.

[Jason in LA]

I'd take TO on the Broncos in a heart beat. He's a difference maker.

Moss is a different type of head case. You never know what you are going to get out of Moss. He doesn't give 100%. TO runs his mouth, but he gives 100%. The only time he runs his mouth is when the team is losing. He's not trying to be an ass, he wants to win all the time. Same goes for Keyshawn. I wouldn't lump those two in with Moss. Those two at least show up and do all they can to win. They just get carried away when they lose.

[Exile_In_SJ]

I missed the Mitchell mouth off fest.. but he sure was a non factor. Kind of like our guys who said the Indy receivers were soft. Best to keep your mouth shut.

[Exile_In_SJ]

I don't care if Owens was the best receiver ever to play the game, I wouldn't want a Jerk like him on any team I supported. I would hope the Denver brass felt the same way Terrell Owens is the biggest jerk of his era in the NFL.

May a rabid dwarf bite his kneecaps off.

[Exile_In_SJ]

Besides, NE has won 3 SB's with WR's you'll forget the names of by tomorrow. The great T.O. couldn't deliver.

[phillybroncosnut]

Terrell Ownes is on the best team for him. The biggest chokers since the Buffalo Bills. I love it.

Give me Roddie any day over TO

[Breck Bronc]

I don't care if Owens was the best receiver ever to play the game, I wouldn't want a Jerk like him on any team I supported. I would hope the Denver brass felt the same way Terrell Owens is the biggest jerk of his era in the NFL.Once again I completely agree. I couldn't believe when he had a hit put out on his pregnant girlfriend and actually went through with it.

[-Slap-]

Once again I completely agree. I couldn't believe when he had a hit put out on his pregnant girlfriend and actually went through with it.

If some loophole got Rae Carruth released from prison, some team would sign him. Okay, maybe not Rae Carruth, say a guy with number one receiver talent. He'd be signed within a month.

[CornStore]

supreme jackass? honestly some of you guys just like to trumpet whatever's "in"

were you even watching the super bowl? the guy played like a champion and celebrated his teammates when they scored TDs. he clearly wanted to win, and rehabbed hard for 6 weeks to help give his team a chance to win and honestly he played with the most desire and skill of any of the eagles.

[CornStore]

Besides, NE has won 3 SB's with WR's you'll forget the names of by tomorrow. The great T.O. couldn't deliver.

yeah, that's why deion branch was MVP and made some incredible plays and why everyone always trumpets troy brown, givens, patten as being a deep/skilled receiving core.

if you werent' paying attention, TO did deliver, on one good leg.

[phillybroncosnut]

supreme jackass? honestly some of you guys just like to trumpet whatever's "in"

were you even watching the super bowl? the guy played like a champion and celebrated his teammates when they scored TDs. he clearly wanted to win, and rehabbed hard for 6 weeks to help give his team a chance to win and honestly he played with the most desire and skill of any of the eagles.


Agreed. However, none of that changes the fact that he is one of the biggest arseholes in the game today. Hands down!

[phillybroncosnut]

if you werent' paying attention, TO did deliver, on one good leg.


Agreed. Against 2 rookie corners.

[Exile_In_SJ]

he's earned the title of supreme jackass over the length of his career, which I've observed since his days at SF.

ig deal if he played hard in the Sb. whoopee. Doesn't make him less of an ass.

[CornStore]

A) He didnt have a broken leg.
B) he did play a great game against 2 rookie corners. He also had 40 of those yards after the most blatant pick I've ever seen. How the f*ck did the refs miss that?
c) "What is TO was 100%"? What if he were facing Ty Law at 100%?

F*ck TO!

A) even after he said he was going to play and not be a decoy, no one, including his doctor, believed him. i doubt you believed him, and he proved you wrong.

B) he also could have had a lot more balls thrown his way, i think he caught all but 2 of the balls thrown to him, incredible. rookie corners, schmookie corners, the NE pass defense as a whole is good vs #1 receivers, ask marvin harrison. he had a great game.

C) eric moulds went for 120 and a td in the reg season vs ty law, and TO is moulds * 150%. TO would have dominated him as well, and NE would have probably had to send help.

[CornStore]

Agreed. Against 2 rookie corners.

this is weak. it's obvious NE's pass defense vs #1s has been stellar, even without ty law and poole.

[Taco John]

I'd take TO in a second flat and wonder what took me so long to make the decision.

[CornStore]

btw:

1-10-NE36 (7:27) D.McNabb pass intended for L.Smith INTERCEPTED by T.Bruschi at NE 24. T.Bruschi to NE 24 for no gain (T.Owens).

name me some other wide receivers who'd tackle teddy bruschi on one good leg?

[DBroncos4life]

Whatever.

If more Eagles had played like TO tonight, they would be celebrating in Philly right now.


Yeah and if more peoples aunts and dicks they would have more uncles. Wow you really are hard up for the eagles. I hope this is the start of three straight super bowl losses for them. That would so top the choke jobs in the NFC Championship games. LOSERS!!!!!

[CornStore]

Yeah and if more peoples aunts and dicks they would have more uncles. Wow you really are hard up for the eagles. I hope this is the start of three straight super bowl losses for them. That would so top the choke jobs in the NFC Championship games. LOSERS!!!!!

you seem to have missed the point. he was defending TO, not the eagles.

[phillybroncosnut]

btw:

1-10-NE36 (7:27) D.McNabb pass intended for L.Smith INTERCEPTED by T.Bruschi at NE 24. T.Bruschi to NE 24 for no gain (T.Owens).

name me some other wide receivers who'd tackle teddy bruschi on one good leg?


Dude, whats with the boner for TO? Everyone pretty much agrees that he had a great game. It still doesn't change the fact that he is a piece of chit.

Could it be that you have a soft spot for a guy who plays for the biggest choke artists since your beloved Bills? I think that must be the case

[CornStore]

Dude, whats with the boner for TO? Everyone pretty much agrees that he had a great game. It still doesn't change the fact that he is a piece of chit.

Could it be that you have a soft spot for a guy who plays for the biggest choke artists since your beloved Bills? I think that must be the case


yeah, that's why you keep trying to discredit his performance by talking about "rookie corners" and other such BS. i like TO, he's a great player, and he catches a lot of flak from annoying people like yourself. he gets labelled a "jerk" by media bandwagoners and bitter/jealous football fans when it's clear that he was an incredible asset to the eagles this year and went above and beyond anyone's wildest expectations in the biggest game of the year when everyone wanted him to choke and fail.

it's fun, as a TO supporter, to watch you whiners have to eat it and find something new to complain about when it comes to TO.

[CornStore]

btw, i looked it up. NE's pass defense was #1 this year against other people's #1 wide receivers, with those "rookie corners"

looks like you'll need to find a new excuse.

[Mile High Shack]

I'd take TO in a heart beat

He doesn't get in trouble off the field

He works his ass off ON the field

He blocks

He doesn't take plays off

He makes plays

I don't know what you don't like about him......b/c he celebrates when he scores? GEEE how bad

[DBroncos4life]

btw, i looked it up. NE's pass defense was #1 this year against other people's #1 wide receivers, with those "rookie corners"

looks like you'll need to find a new excuse.



Well those "rookie" corners will have nice big rings. What will TO get for his good game? Im in the mood to send cookies to people so tell me what kind he likes and Ill ice it out with some gold colored wraping paper.

[phillybroncosnut]

yeah, that's why you keep trying to discredit his performance by talking about "rookie corners" and other such BS. i like TO, he's a great player, and he catches a lot of flak from annoying people like yourself. he gets labelled a "jerk" by media bandwagoners and bitter/jealous football fans when it's clear that he was an incredible asset to the eagles this year and went above and beyond anyone's wildest expectations in the biggest game of the year when everyone wanted him to choke and fail.

it's fun, as a TO supporter, to watch you whiners have to eat it and find something new to complain about when it comes to TO.


Dude, back off the high horse bro. No one (other then die hard patriot fans) is happier then me right now. I so don't have to find something to complain about. Trust me.

TO is a top 3 WR in the league, no doubt. However, I don't need the media to tell me what and a**hole he truely is. Class guys don't scream at their coaches in public, during a game like TO did last season in San Fran. Class guys also do not continually rip their former QB long after both have parted ways.
Class guys also do not rip their current QB and head coach the week before a playoff game while sitting on the sidelines with a broken leg. That didnt make the national media. No one talked about TO ripping McChoke and Reid before the Falcons game.
I don't need the medis to tell me he's an as*hole. He sends the message load and clear.

[Mile High Shack]

Dude, back off the high horse bro. No one (other then die hard patriot fans) is happier then me right now. I so don't have to find something to complain about. Trust me.

TO is a top 3 WR in the league, no doubt. However, I don't need the media to tell me what and a**hole he truely is. Class guys don't scream at their coaches in public, during a game like TO did last season in San Fran. Class guys also do not continually rip their former QB long after both have parted ways.
Class guys also do not rip their current QB and head coach the week before a playoff game while sitting on the sidelines with a broken leg. That didnt make the national media. No one talked about TO ripping McChoke and Reid before the Falcons game.
I don't need the medis to tell me he's an as*hole. He sends the message load and clear.


count me in on wanting more assholes like him on our team......dude is a stud

[DBroncos4life]

you seem to have missed the point. he was defending TO, not the eagles.



Im not missing his point cause he doesnt have one.

[phillybroncosnut]

btw, i looked it up. NE's pass defense was #1 this year against other people's #1 wide receivers, with those "rookie corners"

looks like you'll need to find a new excuse.


No excuse needed. I agree. That was a rebuttal for all the people saying that TO would have had 300 yards if he was 100%.

[Hogan11]

count me in on wanting more assholes like him on our team......dude is a stud

F*** Him.

I thank God everyday Shanahan doesn't want anything to do with clowns like him.

He's ringless, The Eagles are heartbroken, the trophy is still in the AFC...I'm very happy tonight.

[Rock Chalk]

this is why reading comprehension is good. that way things like irony and sarcasm dont escape u. feel free to continue this political campaign against me tho. ur utterly inept at it. "omg look yav is somethign bad dont listen to his points, my points are good! look here!"

omg u evr th!nk dat ppl dnt like u b/c u type like a moron?

[fontaine]

I never liked the guys antics but he played a hell of a game tonight.

Sure he played against a weakened secondary, but so did Freddi Mitchell, and Pinkston and those guys pretty much disapeared when the team needed them.

[wabbit]

I agree

I never liked this guy, but I have an entirely new respect for him now.

He played with a heart I never believed he had.

It's unfortunate that his teammates didn't follow his lead.

Only behind by a TD & FG with almost an entire fourth quarter to play & dour expressions on the Eagles sideline almost screamed 'we surrender'

[fontaine]

Only behind by a TD & FG with almost an entire fourth quarter to play & dour expressions on the Eagles sideline almost screamed 'we surrender'

Well, the defense tried. Stopping Brady and co in the fourth when the Offense needed the ball back but I think the players realized McNabb was having a bad night.

Most of his passes were behind, out of reach, or down low to his receivers and he never really got into a rhythym and never scrambled effectively. After that second int, I think his players started doubting.

There were others though, that shouldn't have bothered suited up like Freddie Mitchell. Hopefully, this is the last we hear of him.

[Exile_In_SJ]

How many superbowls have teams with YU won? He's a great player no doubt. Glad he's not a Bronco.

[Mile High Shack]

F*** Him.

I thank God everyday Shanahan doesn't want anything to do with clowns like him.

He's ringless, The Eagles are heartbroken, the trophy is still in the AFC...I'm very happy tonight.

yeah we don't want a guy who plays his all everytime he is on the field

I'm much happier with Darrius Watts or Ashley Lelie

[toad]

Well, like TO or not, he is a specimen WR....big, strong, fast, fearless. Even if you don't like him off the field, you have to respect what he's capable of on the field. I gotta give him props for putting up a big game last night, under pressure, just 6 weeks removed from having screw put into his ankle.

I do hate it for McNabb. He's a great player, but most importantly a classy guy....after all he's been through (being boo'ed by hometown fans since literally the day he was drafted, being questioned as a great player, the Rush Limbaugh episode, etc) I would have liked to seen him with a ring.

They did blow it in their "hurry up" offense and his last INT that setup the go-ahead field goal was simply a poorly thrown ball, so I do think McNabb had a less-than-stellar performance last night.

[Exile_In_SJ]

I remember his stunt in dallas when he was with the niners.. he scored a touchdown and then pranced out to the midfield star and did his little dance.

It was great when a dallas player, I can't remember who, ran out after him and blindsided the punk. T. O. was totaly classless then and is totally classless now.

Again, who needs T.O.? New England has won 3 superbowls with essentially faceless WRs. T. O. doesn't make your team better. He's a good receiver, but he's a jerk. I'll take a good receiver who isn't a jerk.

I'm glad he didn't get a ring. He'd have been an obnoxious punk. Even more of one, actually.

[Tredici]

I'll take whatever prejudices there are for TO and not worry about them. Everyone has an opinion.

Just don't compare him to Randy Moss.

When TO pushes around women with his car, when he walks off the field before the half has ended, when he doesn't get down in a stance because it's a running play, when he throws no blocks, when he walks off the field because of "communication confusion" and costs his team a down in a critical game, then tell me how he is like Randy Moss.

Conversely, when Moss plays in a game 6 weeks after he has a plate and 2 screws put in his ankle, you can tell me he's like Owens.

[alkemical]

TO is an ass, but he's a baller, true and true.

You know, it's funny, in the beginning of the season the toughest thing for TO was wearing shorts and not his cat suit.

guess he told us the truth, that was THE hardest part of coming to philly.

[BroncoFiend]

How can you condemn someone that wanted to come back and try to help his team win? TO could have been a prima donna like John Abraham.

The difference is, TO already got his big contract, Abraham didn't. If TO was in Abraham's shoes, I would have expected the same outcome.

That said, his comeback was very impressive.

[bendog]

yeah , but McNabb played on a busted ankle befor ehe got his longterm contract extension last year.

[Mile High Shack]

I'll take whatever prejudices there are for TO and not worry about them. Everyone has an opinion.

Just don't compare him to Randy Moss.

When TO pushes around women with his car, when he walks off the field before the half has ended, when he doesn't get down in a stance because it's a running play, when he throws no blocks, when he walks off the field because of "communication confusion" and costs his team a down in a critical game, then tell me how he is like Randy Moss.

Conversely, when Moss plays in a game 6 weeks after he has a plate and 2 screws put in his ankle, you can tell me he's like Owens.

I think I love you ;)

j/k

seriously though this is my point

He PLAYS the game, he isn't like Moss who have off the field issues....

T.O. PLAYS when he is on the field and makes plays and is the best WR in the game right now.

[Spider]

When I saw T.O sing along during the National anthem , then he balled the way he did , I changed my stance on T.O. ....... He maybe an ass but he also has to be one of the best in the Game

[Tredici]

TO is an ass, but he's a baller, true and true.

You know, it's funny, in the beginning of the season the toughest thing for TO was wearing shorts and not his cat suit.

guess he told us the truth, that was THE hardest part of coming to philly.

He said wearing those shorts was a great adjustment. Knowing how you guys are constantly adjusting the equipment I found that statement hilarious. But then I'm a flava clown apologist....
:dummy:

[alkemical]

He said wearing those shorts was a great adjustment. Knowing how you guys are constantly adjusting the equipment I found that statement hilarious. But then I'm a flava clown apologist....
:dummy:


i thought it was funny too!

[Bronco_Beerslug]

TO is the best receiver in the league hands down! Anyone saying you're glad he doesn't play for the Broncos would be singing a different tune with TO here, catching 90 passes, 18 TDs, 1500 yds a year and leading the Broncos to the SB.
He wants to win more than anything else, something that Moss has no clue about.

[Maximus]

A) He didnt have a broken leg.
B) he did play a great game against 2 rookie corners. He also had 40 of those yards after the most blatant pick I've ever seen. How the f*ck did the refs miss that?
c) "What is TO was 100%"? What if he were facing Ty Law at 100%?

F*ck TO!

A) You're correct it wasn't broken but, he surely had a ligament that was tied up and not 100%

B) It's not his fault that they had rookie CB's back there. He did what he was supposed to do and then some against them. Philly should have gone to him at least 15 more times yesterday.

C) If a Monkey had Wings he would probably Fly!.... Horseshoes & Handgrenades.... If, Maybe, coulda... Shoulda... Woulda

[Maximus]

F*** Him.

I thank God everyday Shanahan doesn't want anything to do with clowns like him.

He's ringless, The Eagles are heartbroken, the trophy is still in the AFC...I'm very happy tonight.

How do you know that ratboy doesn't want T.O. on the donks? If the donkeys had the cap space... That tree eating beaver would be sucking T.O.'s ass to get him to come to denver!

[labronx]

Good post.
weak ass post

[FADERPROOF]

C) If a Monkey had Wings he would probably Fly!.... Horseshoes & Handgrenades.... If, Maybe, coulda... Shoulda... Woulda

And thats why 3 years later, Raider fans still can't get over the tuck rule right?

[Maximus]

And thats why 3 years later, Raider fans still can't get over the tuck rule right?

Are you smoking crack tonight LOL what the hell does my comment have to do with the tuck rule LOL ???

[FADERPROOF]

Are you smoking crack tonight LOL what the hell does my comment have to do with the tuck rule LOL ???

Is it that hard to see? You and your Raider buddies like playing the woulda coulda shoulda game with that tuck rule, yet you say it's just an excuse when it comes to that non-call.

BTW, I'm glad you correctly predicted how bad LeBron would flop in the NBA, my Cavs are truly suffering since he jsut can't seem to produce at a level higher than High School.

[labronx]

I don't see how anybody can question TO after what he did tonight. The guy has a broken leg, and he was running out there like nothing ever happened. TO is the man. No question about that. It's shocking to think a guy can break a leg, then a month and a half latter go for over 100 yards against the best D in the league. What if he was 100% Yikes!

The Eagles need a better O line if they want to win it all. They couldn't run the ball, and McNabb was pressured often.


word,

I cant believe people actually hate the guy.

What a joke

[labronx]

A) He didnt have a broken leg.
B) he did play a great game against 2 rookie corners. He also had 40 of those yards after the most blatant pick I've ever seen. How the f*ck did the refs miss that?
c) "What is TO was 100%"? What if he were facing Ty Law at 100%?

F*ck TO!


dude its sad.

TO vs LAW 100%
is a joke

TO takes out any CB LB S in the league each being at 100%

your a joke if you think otherwise

Im not a TO Lover, but I recognize a REAL football player when I see one.

so you know what tuff guy

F**K you too!!!

[labronx]

TO’s presence made it hard for me to fully embrace the Eagles. However, I survived Ray Lewis, Warren Sapp, and Keyshawn Johnson winning a ring. So, I suppose I could handle TO’s mouth if he ever wins a championship.

Who has a bigger mouth TO or Shannon?

[labronx]

btw:

1-10-NE36 (7:27) D.McNabb pass intended for L.Smith INTERCEPTED by T.Bruschi at NE 24. T.Bruschi to NE 24 for no gain (T.Owens).

name me some other wide receivers who'd tackle teddy bruschi on one good leg?


Godamn thats one of the best points ever made on this freakin board.

Im reping u next shot I get no matter what.

Freakin Punks.

Im online as a CornStore backup!!!


nice very nice

take that punks!!!!!

[FADERPROOF]

Godamn thats one of the best points ever made on this freakin board.

Im reping u next shot I get no matter what.

Freakin Punks.

Im online as a CornStore backup!!!


nice very nice

take that punks!!!!!

Dude, Bruschi caught the INT as he was going down and then slid on the ground, all TO did was walk up and touch him on the shouler pad while Teddy was laying there.

[DBroncos4life]

Dude, Bruschi caught the INT as he was going down and then slid on the ground, all TO did was walk up and touch him on the shouler pad while Teddy was laying there.


Yeah but only TO can make that touch look so tough. ugh!~

[labronx]

I agree

I never liked this guy, but I have an entirely new respect for him now.

He played with a heart I never believed he had.

It's unfortunate that his teammates didn't follow his lead.

Only behind by a TD & FG with almost an entire fourth quarter to play & dour expressions on the Eagles sideline almost screamed 'we surrender'

dont ever judge a book by it's cover

[labronx]

Dude, Bruschi caught the INT as he was going down and then slid on the ground, all TO did was walk up and touch him on the shouler pad while Teddy was laying there.

it dont matter if he let out a big sigh of air causing him to knock him down.

The point is way deeper than that.

[FADERPROOF]

it dont matter if he let out a big sigh of air causing him to knock him down.

The point is way deeper than that.

I'm failing to see the toughness in reaching down and tapping someone on the shoulder.

[DBroncos4life]

it dont matter if he let out a big sigh of air causing him to knock him down.

The point is way deeper than that.


Yeah cause TO is much stronger then GRAVITY!!!!!!!

[labronx]

I think I love you ;)

j/k

seriously though this is my point

He PLAYS the game, he isn't like Moss who have off the field issues....

T.O. PLAYS when he is on the field and makes plays and is the best WR in the game right now.

Whats your wife's email address?

So I can forward this to her.

:twokisses

LOL

[DB-Freak]

Labronx is a bit too excited right now.

What TO did was great tho. PRetty impressed that he actually played and gave his all while not being 100%.

[labronx]

I'm failing to see the toughness in reaching down and tapping someone on the shoulder.

then you will never get it...

[DBroncos4life]

I'm failing to see the toughness in reaching down and tapping someone on the shoulder.



DenFan its because you don't know the little secret that TO holds the world up with his guns. If TO got into a fight with Newton's Law TO would KO its ass. Hes the biggest and the baddest man on the planet.

[FADERPROOF]

then you will never get it...

I guess not, Id much rather talk about how he can get tackled and get back up with a hurt ankle and keep on playing rather than him giving someone a love-tap while the player is on the ground giving himself up after an INT.

[labronx]

Labronx is a bit too excited right now.

What TO did was great tho. PRetty impressed that he actually played and gave his all while not being 100%.


Thats the whole point...

Supposively the guy should have not even been on the field

per the experts in the field of medicine, he had no business being on the field.

and people fail to grasp the whole point of taping an oppossing player's shoulder on the field ???

stop takin' life so litteraly and think beyond what you see. ugh!~
I guess I am excited now.

lol

[labronx]

Labronx is a bit too excited right now.

What TO did was great tho. PRetty impressed that he actually played and gave his all while not being 100%.


Okay I went back and reread my posts on this thread..

And yes ladys and gentlemen, I am definately excited.

lol

[labronx]

DenFan its because you don't know the little secret that TO holds the world up with his guns. If TO got into a fight with Newton's Law TO would KO its ass. Hes the biggest and the baddest man on the planet.


I cant believe it took you so long to realize that.

Now let me put on my number 80 White Bronco Jersey!

what do you think about that?

Capt. Sarcasm

[Atlas]

give owens some credit he had a great game.

[DBroncos4life]

Thats the whole point...

Supposively the guy should have not even been on the field

per the experts in the field of medicine, he had no business being on the field.

and people fail to grasp the whole point of taping an oppossing player's shoulder on the field ???

stop takin' life so litteraly and think beyond what you see. ugh!~
I guess I am excited now.

lol



Lance Armstrong should get more pub for what he did then TO playing in that game. Hurt ankle....Cancer hmmmm. Yes TO did a very good job in a game that most people thought he shouldn't be playing in, BUT thats about it. TO was supose to get Philly over the top and he couldn't do it and he said he was very close to 100% not the 40% you guys are making it out to be. Injuries to football players are not the same as to the avg man. Do you think TO would have been playing had he not had that Hyper chamber (cause everyone has one of those) the 4 or 5 doctors, thearpist that spent countless ours working on his ankle? Cause when I broke my foot I sure as hell didn't get the love that he got. He is not super human he just had a lot of money worth of doctors and equipment to help him recover faster.

[labronx]

Lance Armstrong should get more pub for what he did then TO playing in that game. Hurt ankle....Cancer hmmmm. Yes TO did a very good job in a game that most people thought he shouldn't be playing in, BUT thats about it. TO was supose to get Philly over the top and he couldn't do it and he said he was very close to 100% not the 40% you guys are making it out to be. Injuries to football players are not the same as to the avg man. Do you think TO would have been playing had he not had that Hyper chamber (cause everyone has one of those) the 4 or 5 doctors, thearpist that spent countless ours working on his ankle? Cause when I broke my foot I sure as hell didn't get the love that he got. He is not super human he just had a lot of money worth of doctors and equipment to help him recover faster.

cry me a freakin river

[labronx]

Lance Armstrong should get more pub for what he did then TO playing in that game. Hurt ankle....Cancer hmmmm. Yes TO did a very good job in a game that most people thought he shouldn't be playing in, BUT thats about it. TO was supose to get Philly over the top and he couldn't do it and he said he was very close to 100% not the 40% you guys are making it out to be. Injuries to football players are not the same as to the avg man. Do you think TO would have been playing had he not had that Hyper chamber (cause everyone has one of those) the 4 or 5 doctors, thearpist that spent countless ours working on his ankle? Cause when I broke my foot I sure as hell didn't get the love that he got. He is not super human he just had a lot of money worth of doctors and equipment to help him recover faster.

tell me more informative stuff....


dude Im not on TO's jock, F**k him too.


Thats not the point I was just backin up people who made valid statements of an NFL player everyone counted out and never gave a chance.

your a bronco fan you should know.;

Im tired of week phools around here talkin smack about players out just pure bitter spite.

Thats it!

TO is a punk for talkin crap about Garcia.

Now what do we do?

no biggie life goes on

[DBroncos4life]

cry me a freakin river



:( its ok Im sure TO will take you to the "gun" show if you ask him. Stop acting like TO just walked on water. He gets paid to play a game and thats all he did.

[labronx]

:( its ok Im sure TO will take you to the "gun" show if you ask him. Stop acting like TO just walked on water. He gets paid to play a game and thats all he did.


did you read my last post?

seriously read them.

please

[Maximus]

Is it that hard to see? You and your Raider buddies like playing the woulda coulda shoulda game with that tuck rule, yet you say it's just an excuse when it comes to that non-call.

BTW, I'm glad you correctly predicted how bad LeBron would flop in the NBA, my Cavs are truly suffering since he jsut can't seem to produce at a level higher than High School.

I see... Boredom has set in.... You want an arguement... OK!

The Scene is the playoffs the year is 2001. The Raiders have previously beaten the Jets 38-24 in the playoffs ( This is a feat that the donks haven't been able to accomplish since 1998 ) The Raiders next task comes against the Patriots in foxborough in the snow. Walt Colemans crew is on the field when Tom Brady gets his arm chopped by Charles Woodson. The apparent force of the chop on the arm propels the ball forward and makes his arm go in the direction of his body. One smart referee on the field calls it a fumble which was recovered by Greg Biekert. The play is eventually overturned and Raider Fans as well as other football fans think that the Raiders got Jobbed thus the name of that Game in foxboro "The Snow Job" Raider Fans are heard saying... If, Maybe, Coulda.... & Donkey Fans are heard crying about winning a playoff game or making the playoffs if we have a pass rush and Kubiak doesn't go into a nintendo offense... empty backfield etc....

Fast Forward to 2002. The Raiders come into dungver and Rich Gannon torches the donkeys by passing on every down. The Raiders then torch the donkeys again in Oakland, advance to the playoffs and eventually the Superbowl while donkey fans hope and pray that they can just make the playoffs If.... They can just get a pass rush and If Kubiak just stops using the empty backfield set.... The Raiders lose in the SB saving the year for the poor donkey fans who still think that If they can get a pass rush & new offensive co-ordinator they might get close to winning a playoff game without John Elway.

The year is now 2003. Bill Callahan loses his mind and says the Raiders are the Dumbest team in America. Some Raider Fans are heard saying that they wish that John Gruden was back in town ( Not Me! ) The Raiders eventually fall to an atrocious 4-11 record and look forward to the draft and new coaching situation. Mean while In dungver its the first round of the playoffs an donkey fans again are heard saying if we can get a pass rush from Trevor Pryce, Ian Gold & Company we could win our first playoff game since 1998. Of course this also hinges on If Kubiak calls the correct plays ( Plays that shan-a-rat got credit for calling during wins btw ). Indianapolis hangs a 41-10 beating on the donks and the familiar cries of if, maybe, Coulda, Shoulda... Woulda surface again....

2004... Six years since the last playoff victory in dungver and 1 season removed from the Indy 41-10 debacle the donkeys get LOL "A shut down corner" a clear reaction to the heavy ass whippin that Manning handed out. Proceed to make the playoffs while the Raiders improve morale 10 fold and their record by 1 game. Raider Fans are heard saying if we just had a decent running back and some direction on defense we could contend in 2005. Meanwhile in denver the donkeys are winning a meaningless game late in the season against the Colts who are resting their starters. Donk fans can be heard for the umpteenth time saying if we get a pass rush on Manning & If Kubiak calls a good game we should beat Indy.... Final Score Indy 49... Denver 24....

Lebron... I was wrong but, I'm not wrong about this... Lebron plays in a league that has an obvious void in overall talent. Care to debate it or would you rather Give props to T.O. for his game effort against the starting CB's of New England??

[labronx]

I see... Boredom has set in.... You want an arguement... OK!

The Scene is the playoffs the year is 2001. The Raiders have previously beaten the Jets 38-24 in the playoffs ( This is a feat that the donks haven't been able to accomplish since 1998 ) The Raiders next task comes against the Patriots in foxborough in the snow. Walt Colemans crew is on the field when Tom Brady gets his arm chopped by Charles Woodson. The apparent force of the chop on the arm propels the ball forward and makes his arm go in the direction of his body. One smart referee on the field calls it a fumble which was recovered by Greg Biekert. The play is eventually overturned and Raider Fans as well as other football fans think that the Raiders got Jobbed thus the name of that Game in foxboro "The Snow Job" Raider Fans are heard saying... If, Maybe, Coulda.... & Donkey Fans are heard crying about winning a playoff game or making the playoffs if we have a pass rush and Kubiak doesn't go into a nintendo offense... empty backfield etc....

Fast Forward to 2002. The Raiders come into dungver and Rich Gannon torches the donkeys by passing on every down. The Raiders then torch the donkeys again in Oakland, advance to the playoffs and eventually the Superbowl while donkey fans hope and pray that they can just make the playoffs If.... They can just get a pass rush and If Kubiak just stops using the empty backfield set.... The Raiders lose in the SB saving the year for the poor donkey fans who still think that If they can get a pass rush & new offensive co-ordinator they might get close to winning a playoff game without John Elway.

The year is now 2003. Bill Callahan loses his mind and says the Raiders are the Dumbest team in America. Some Raider Fans are heard saying that they wish that John Gruden was back in town ( Not Me! ) The Raiders eventually fall to an atrocious 4-11 record and look forward to the draft and new coaching situation. Mean while In dungver its the first round of the playoffs an donkey fans again are heard saying if we can get a pass rush from Trevor Pryce, Ian Gold & Company we could win our first playoff game since 1998. Of course this also hinges on If Kubiak calls the correct plays ( Plays that shan-a-rat got credit for calling during wins btw ). Indianapolis hangs a 41-10 beating on the donks and the familiar cries of if, maybe, Coulda, Shoulda... Woulda surface again....

2004... Six years since the last playoff victory in dungver and 1 season removed from the Indy 41-10 debacle the donkeys get LOL "A shut down corner" a clear reaction to the heavy ass whippin that Manning handed out. Proceed to make the playoffs while the Raiders improve morale 10 fold and their record by 1 game. Raider Fans are heard saying if we just had a decent running back and some direction on defense we could contend in 2005. Meanwhile in denver the donkeys are winning a meaningless game late in the season against the Colts who are resting their starters. Donk fans can be heard for the umpteenth time saying if we get a pass rush on Manning & If Kubiak calls a good game we should beat Indy.... Final Score Indy 49... Denver 24....

Lebron... I was wrong but, I'm not wrong about this... Lebron plays in a league that has an obvious void in overall talent. Care to debate it or would you rather Give props to T.O. for his game effort against the starting CB's of New England??

hello maximus,

even though Lebron is on a league devoid of talent.

That kid is special and you have to admit it.

He can play in any era.

I love the fact that he loves to pass.

i you are a fundemantalist than you must agree

what do you think?

[Maximus]

hello maximus,

even though Lebron is on a league devoid of talent.

That kid is special and you have to admit it.

He can play in any era.

I love the fact that he loves to pass.

i you are a fundemantalist than you must agree

what do you think?

While I agree that he would be able to play in any era. I don't think that he would be much of a showcase in the era of the 80's or early 90's. The game lacks defense and a bunch of fundementals. For example name one real defensive player in the NBA right now... Name 5....

In the era's that I speak of Lebron would get torched nightly on defense and people like Rodman, Cooper, Dennis Johnson & T.R. Dunn would give him fits.... Maybe I should throw Jordan in there as a Defensive player too...

[Exile_In_SJ]

T.O. is a punk, it's easy to see. He's also a great player. Big Deal. Personally, I hope a guy like him never prospers. other than making his ton of money. I hope his time with Philly is spent in frustration. And then when he leaves Philly he goes to another team that doesn't win it all.

Did T.O. make the Eagles better? No. they were exactly the same team they have been the last 4 years. Almost, but nt quite good enough.

How great is T.O.? well a nobody named Deion branch won the MVP. 11 catches, tying a superbowl record. And Branch didn't need a blatantly illegal pick to make his big catches.

[yavoon]

While I agree that he would be able to play in any era. I don't think that he would be much of a showcase in the era of the 80's or early 90's. The game lacks defense and a bunch of fundementals. For example name one real defensive player in the NBA right now... Name 5....

In the era's that I speak of Lebron would get torched nightly on defense and people like Rodman, Cooper, Dennis Johnson & T.R. Dunn would give him fits

ben wallace, andrei kirilenko, dikembe mutombo, dough christie, ron artest, mike james. hell the last team to win a championship was the first in 20 years to do it w/o a top 50 all time player and they based their entire strategy off suffocating defense.

atleast swing in the right direction man. blame shooting or something but I mean there are more defensive specialists in the league now then ever before.

[Breck Bronc]

( This is a feat that the donks haven't been able to accomplish since 1998 ) Semantics, but we won the AFC Championship and Super Bowl in 1999.

Mean while In dungver its the first round of the playoffs an donkey fans again are heard saying if we can get a pass rush from Trevor Pryce, Ian Gold & Company we could win our first playoff game since 1998. Ian Gold tore up his knee midway through the 2003 season, so we weren't expecting him to produce a pass rush since he was out for the season.

But yeah, Denver hasn't accomplished much since Elway retired and I'm getting sick of it. San Diego winning the division this season really hurt.

[labronx]

T.O. is a punk, it's easy to see. He's also a great player. Big Deal. Personally, I hope a guy like him never prospers. other than making his ton of money. I hope his time with Philly is spent in frustration. And then when he leaves Philly he goes to another team that doesn't win it all.

Did T.O. make the Eagles better? No. they were exactly the same team they have been the last 4 years. Almost, but nt quite good enough.

How great is T.O.? well a nobody named Deion branch won the MVP. 11 catches, tying a superbowl record. And Branch didn't need a blatantly illegal pick to make his big catches.

considering I just came of defending the guy, you have no idea how bad I wanna take the bait

well maybe I will,

doesnt that make you a punk for wanting somebody who never has had anything to do with you not to prosper?

just wondering

take your freakin bait Im spitting it out ima go back to swiming with real fish

[labronx]

ben wallace, andrei kirilenko, dikembe mutombo, dough christie, ron artest, mike james. hell the last team to win a championship was the first in 20 years to do it w/o a top 50 all time player and they based their entire strategy off suffocating defense.

atleast swing in the right direction man. blame shooting or something but I mean there are more defensive specialists in the league now then ever before.

Thanks Yavs,

you saved me on that one!!

My brain is 85 percent emotion today the other 35 or not logical or informative

see what I mean.

[yavoon]

Thanks Yavs,

you saved me on that one!!

My brain is 85 percent emotion today the other 35 or not logical or informative

see what I mean.

oh snugs=DD

[labronx]

While I agree that he would be able to play in any era. I don't think that he would be much of a showcase in the era of the 80's or early 90's. The game lacks defense and a bunch of fundementals. For example name one real defensive player in the NBA right now... Name 5....

In the era's that I speak of Lebron would get torched nightly on defense and people like Rodman, Cooper, Dennis Johnson & T.R. Dunn would give him fits.... Maybe I should throw Jordan in there as a Defensive player too...

how bout the guy in my avatar?

ask Kobe what he thinks.

[labronx]

Semantics, but we won the AFC Championship and Super Bowl in 1999.

Ian Gold tore up his knee midway through the 2003 season, so we weren't expecting him to produce a pass rush since he was out for the season.

But yeah, Denver hasn't accomplished much since Elway retired and I'm getting sick of it. San Diego winning the division this season really hurt.

I was gonna point out the Gold mistake.
San Diego is discusting for taking the division.

I think I will go ahead and die now.

Thanks

[labronx]

oh snugs=DD
im lost ???

[yavoon]

im lost ???

not many ppl dont flame me!

[labronx]

not many ppl dont flame me!
still kinda lost there buddy ???
my bad

I think your trying to say that your hated and not that many people like you or agree with you.

well yes.

I think ive had run ins with you.

Im all about the truth.

its simple I hate bull****

[CornStore]

Dude, Bruschi caught the INT as he was going down and then slid on the ground, all TO did was walk up and touch him on the shouler pad while Teddy was laying there.

doesn't matter. it shows the guy was in on the play and was going all out. if he played for the steelers, you can bet he'd have been running down rodney harrison on that int return. besides, no one knew bruschi was going to slide down, TO was there willing to make the play if necessary.

[CornStore]

it's nice that exile's argument basically coems down to "TO doesn't deserve a ring becuase i personally dislike him"

wow, thanks for the insight

the guy is a champ with the best work ethic of anyone in the NFL

[Maximus]

ben wallace, andrei kirilenko, dikembe mutombo, dough christie, ron artest, mike james. hell the last team to win a championship was the first in 20 years to do it w/o a top 50 all time player and they based their entire strategy off suffocating defense.

atleast swing in the right direction man. blame shooting or something but I mean there are more defensive specialists in the league now then ever before.

Again your talking players that would sit the bench in the era's that I'm speaking about. Mike James... Doug Christie... Ron Artest.... Match them up against Jordan, Wilkins & James Worthy....

What could ben wallace possibly do against someone like say... hummm Charles Barkley or even Moses Malone Please... Give me a break None of the defensive players you name have what it takes to even make a 6th defensive team in the 80's early 90's all defensive team!

Kirilenko vs Kevin McHale
Hakeem The Dream vs Mutombo

LOL

[yavoon]

Again your talking players that would sit the bench in the era's that I'm speaking about. Mike James... Doug Christie... Ron Artest.... Match them up against Jordan, Wilkins & James Worthy....

What could ben wallace possibly do against someone like say... hummm Charles Barkley or even Moses Malone Please... Give me a break None of the defensive players you name have what it takes to even make a 6th defensive team in the 80's early 90's all defensive team!

Kirilenko vs Kevin McHale
Hakeem The Dream vs Mutombo

LOL

yes yes players were better yesterday, we all know this. its verifiable fact. it seems to me the golden age of all was the late 80's early 90's atleast that lets me know how old the forum is.

[labronx]

it's nice that exile's argument basically coems down to "TO doesn't deserve a ring becuase i personally dislike him"

wow, thanks for the insight

the guy is a champ with the best work ethic of anyone in the NFL

I called him a punk for the basis of his argument.

[Maximus]

it's nice that exile's argument basically coems down to "TO doesn't deserve a ring becuase i personally dislike him"

wow, thanks for the insight

the guy is a champ with the best work ethic of anyone in the NFL

Not to mention that he's never had any.... ANY OFF FIELD PROBLEMS...!

[DB-Freak]

Well irrationality and backwardness run rampant here so expect it.

[labronx]

Not to mention that he's never had any.... ANY OFF FIELD PROBLEMS...!
seriously how can somebody actually hate the guy, I understand hes a freakin goofball.

I mean nothing beats the cheerleader pom poms thing.

but to say you wouldnt him on you teams is nutts

[Maximus]

yes yes players were better yesterday, we all know this. its verifiable fact. it seems to me the golden age of all was the late 80's early 90's atleast that lets me know how old the forum is.

It really points to the fact of how far the game has regressed since maybe 95. Our teams lose to puerto rico in international play and we talk about the merits of... Lebron James ???

[yavoon]

It really points to the fact of how far the game has regressed since maybe 95. Our teams lose to puerto rico in international play and we talk about the merits of... Lebron James ???

yes because puerto rico is exactly as good as they were in 95. and we fielded the exact same echelon of talent or we had the exact same preparation time.

not that I care all that much but the world has been catching up fast since the dream team.

[Maximus]

seriously how can somebody actually hate the guy, I understand hes a freakin goofball.

I mean nothing beats the cheerleader pom poms thing.

but to say you wouldnt him on you teams is nutts

I'd take his sharpie pen weilding gimmie the ball antics anytime... I'll tell you this... I wish there was a T.O. Sweepstakes involving the Raiders this year instead of.... the Randy "I wanna take a play off" Moss sweepstakes!!!

[RhymesayersDU]

it's nice that exile's argument basically coems down to "TO doesn't deserve a ring becuase i personally dislike him"

wow, thanks for the insight

the guy is a champ with the best work ethic of anyone in the NFL
Exactly. And not only that, but they have terrible reasons for disliking him.

[Clockwork Orange]

Oh please, if the USA was able to send their A team, no country would come within 20 points of them.

Seriously, if the starting 5 was Jason Kidd, Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady, Kevin Garnett & Shaquille O'Neal with the likes of Tim Duncan, Ray Allen, Allen Iverson, Ben Wallace, Jermaine O-Neal etc. coming off the bench it would be a massacre.

Our A guys didn't want to go, we sent who was willing to participate and they got beat. No one to blame but ourselves, the rest of the world just played against who we sent.

[labronx]

Oh please, if the USA was able to send their A team, no country would come within 20 points of them.

Seriously, if the starting 5 was Jason Kidd, Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady, Kevin Garnett & Shaquille O'Neal with the likes of Tim Duncan, Ray Allen, Allen Iverson, Ben Wallace, Jermaine O-Neal etc. coming off the bench it would be a massacre.

Our A guys didn't want to go, we sent who was willing to participate and they got beat. No one to blame but ourselves, the rest of the world just played against who we sent.

you may be right

but didnt the Pistons(old school BB) destruction of Flakers (new school BB) teach you anything?

[Maximus]

yes because puerto rico is exactly as good as they were in 95. and we fielded the exact same echelon of talent or we had the exact same preparation time.

not that I care all that much but the world has been catching up fast since the dream team.

The world has done some catching up but, our fundamentals have diminished at a spectacular pace since then. Go to any park and all you see is kids trying to dunk the damn ball or make some stupid no look but look out the corner of your eye pass that has no relevence in the scheme of the game... The game is disgusting right now ( I still watch though )

[yavoon]

The world has done some catching up but, our fundamentals have diminished at a spectacular pace since then. Go to any park and all you see is kids trying to dunk the damn ball or make some stupid no look but look out the corner of your eye pass that has no relevence in the scheme of the game... The game is disgusting right now ( I still watch though )

blah I really dont like basketball. I dont particularly agree with u. but no emotion in the argument from me=[.

[RhymesayersDU]

The world has done some catching up but, our fundamentals have diminished at a spectacular pace since then. Go to any park and all you see is kids trying to dunk the damn ball or make some stupid no look but look out the corner of your eye pass that has no relevence in the scheme of the game... The game is disgusting right now ( I still watch though )
I wouldn't say the game is disgusting, but yeah, people who can actually make jump shots are at a premium now.

The Europeans learned the fundamentals, and we sent absolutely nobody who could shoot. That's why every Euro team just played a 2-3 zone and packed in the middle. They dared us to shoot a 3 pointer and make it consistently, and we couldn't.

[labronx]

The world has done some catching up but, our fundamentals have diminished at a spectacular pace since then. Go to any park and all you see is kids trying to dunk the damn ball or make some stupid no look but look out the corner of your eye pass that has no relevence in the scheme of the game... The game is disgusting right now ( I still watch though )


LOL

I still watch though

that is the point I was trying to make to circlorange the fundemantals are so bad its sad.

The team he listed if not for kidd and wallace and maybe iverson will get destroyed.

imagine mcgrady and kobe on the same team?

Is that even possible

Oh I forgot Duncan

He could play against any era and anyone

you gotta give me that one Maximus

[Clockwork Orange]

you may be right

but didnt the Pistons(old school BB) destruction of Flakers (new school BB) teach you anything?

Yes, but if you're suggesting that the Pistons style of play overcoming the Lakers superior starpower relates at all to the USA's A team vs the rest of the world, you're off base.

First, the talent gap between the best team the USA can field and the best team any other nation can field is enormous, about 100X greater than the gap between the Pistons & Lakers. Not to mention the fact that the Pistons had superior depth in the Finals and there's no nation on earth that can field a deeper team than the USA.

Second, the staple of the Pistons championship team was (and still is) their defense. Foreign teams aren't exactly known for being stalwarts at the defensive end. They rotate well on offense, they pass well, they shoot well. But let me see them deal with an interior of Shaq (no one here can body up on him, no one anywhere else can either), Garnett (the most versatile and best passing big man in the game today) and McGrady (he can score inside or outside).

Combine that with them having to deal with a team that actually has shooters on it. The USA's best would love to see the opposition clog the inside as they did in Athens, they would just kick it out to Bryant, McGrady, & Allen and watch them rain 3's down on them.

As I said, the USA fielded the best team of guys willing to play that they could. The team they sent simply wasn't good enough.

[Maximus]

Oh please, if the USA was able to send their A team, no country would come within 20 points of them.

Seriously, if the starting 5 was Jason Kidd, Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady, Kevin Garnett & Shaquille O'Neal with the likes of Tim Duncan, Ray Allen, Allen Iverson, Ben Wallace, Jermaine O-Neal etc. coming off the bench it would be a massacre.

Our A guys didn't want to go, we sent who was willing to participate and they got beat. No one to blame but ourselves, the rest of the world just played against who we sent.

First of all I'm a Laker Fan 35 years... ( You'll understand why I mention this in a minute )

You're absolutely correct we would have faired better but, you prove my point as soon as you mention Kobe F***ing Bryant!!! here's a Mothershucker that saw the trap coming time after time in the championship series against Detroit and decides to dribble the ball to half court instead of making the proper pass to beat the trap... Kobe fugging sucks!!! Get Shaq back in LA!!!

[RhymesayersDU]

As I said, the USA fielded the best team of guys willing to play that they could. The team they sent simply wasn't good enough.

Yes and No. Yes, a lot of our stars refused to go. But the problem is, the people selecting the team basically went down the list of (it seems) the next few top jersey sellers.

We didn't have our best guys there, but there were still some shooters who they could have invited to field a real team. (redd, for example)

[labronx]

[QUOTE=Clockwork Orange]Yes, but if you're suggesting that the Pistons style of play overcoming the Lakers superior starpower relates at all to the USA's A team vs the rest of the world, you're off base.

First, the talent gap between the best team the USA can field and the best team any other nation can field is enormous, about 100X greater than the gap between the Pistons & Lakers. Not to mention the fact that the Pistons had superior depth in the Finals and there's no nation on earth that can field a deeper team than the USA.

Second, the staple of the Pistons championship team was (and still is) their defense. Foreign teams aren't exactly known for being stalwarts at the defensive end. They rotate well on offense, they pass well, they shoot well. But let me see them deal with an interior of Shaq (no one here can body up on him, no one anywhere else can either), Garnett (the most versatile and best passing big man in the game today) and McGrady (he can score inside or outside).

Combine that with them having to deal with a team that actually has shooters on it. The USA's best would love to see the opposition clog the inside as they did in Athens, they would just kick it out to Bryant, McGrady, & Allen and watch them rain 3's down on them.


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I said you were mainly right, right of the bat.

I wouldnt be so confident in the team your talking about.

Plus honestly Shaq doesnt play basketball, he plays what some here in the ghetto grew up playing which is jungle ball.
The gangbangers you use to play that crap

I hated it.

Pretty much football and basketball all in one.

Like I said you are mostly right but that team still lacks true fundementals.

The only ones that are fundemantally sound are Kidd and even his jumpshot sucks and Duncan Garnett too


As I said, the USA fielded the best team of guys willing to play that they could. The team they sent simply wasn't good enough.[/

[Maximus]

I wouldn't say the game is disgusting, but yeah, people who can actually make jump shots are at a premium now.

The Europeans learned the fundamentals, and we sent absolutely nobody who could shoot. That's why every Euro team just played a 2-3 zone and packed in the middle. They dared us to shoot a 3 pointer and make it consistently, and we couldn't.

No question about it... And we were at a loss when trying to make the correct passes... Turnovers stemming from all those showtime passes... Carmelo Anthony looking lost... No heart no soul.

[RhymesayersDU]

I gotta disagree about Shaq, labronx. When he first came into the league, I would have agreed, but his game has blossomed so much. Sure, he's still the biggest guy out there, and that helps, but he has developed a really nice touch around the rim, and some real nice post moves. Plus he can shoot free throws decently now.

[Maximus]

Yeah I have to second that... He's a decent post passer and has a good touch around the basket. It's not all dunks and he does get hacked alot.

[labronx]

I know aobut Shaq he is one of my favorite all timers.

Yes hes got good passing skill and he can even take people of the dribble.

Im talking about the who dump it into shaq thing

[Clockwork Orange]

Like I said you are mostly right but that team still lacks true fundementals.

The only ones that are fundemantally sound are Kidd and even his jumpshot sucks and Duncan Garnett too

I agree with that wholeheartedly, the NBA in general lacks good fundamentals.

But being fundamentally sound doesn't get you on Sportscenter.

Welcome to the ESPN generation. It's pathetic, I know.

[labronx]

the dude does have solid fundamentals as we all know he lacks them look at his free throws he is easily one of the best passing big men of all time and gets no credit for it.

[labronx]

guys good conversation thanks for the time Im going home now see you guys tomorrow
later,

[RhymesayersDU]

I agree with that wholeheartedly, the NBA in general lacks good fundamentals.

But being fundamentally sound doesn't get you on Sportscenter.

Welcome to the ESPN generation. It's pathetic, I know.
Does that mean that the fans have actually killed sports?

I was just thinking about that.

Athletes do stunts to get on sportscenter.
sportscenter in turn shows the coolest plays of the day so that people will tune in.
Why is it important that people tune in? So ESPN can make money from advertising.
advertisers pay top dollar so all these fans can see their ads.

This may sound crazy and jumbled, as it just popped into my mind... But just think if people turned off SportsCenter for a prolonged amount of time... I wonder if things would change?

[Clockwork Orange]

Does that mean that the fans have actually killed sports?

I was just thinking about that.

Athletes do stunts to get on sportscenter.
sportscenter in turn shows the coolest plays of the day so that people will tune in.
Why is it important that people tune in? So ESPN can make money from advertising.
advertisers pay top dollar so all these fans can see their ads.

This may sound crazy and jumbled, as it just popped into my mind... But just think if people turned off SportsCenter for a prolonged amount of time... I wonder if things would change?

I think it's ESPN's fault for promoting individuals over teams (Super Bowl week was a classic example, you seemingly heard more about Terrell Owens than you did about the Patriots or the Eagles) and it's people's fault for buying into the hype.

[Maximus]

guys good conversation thanks for the time Im going home now see you guys tomorrow
later,Later

[Maximus]

Does that mean that the fans have actually killed sports?

I was just thinking about that.

Athletes do stunts to get on sportscenter.
sportscenter in turn shows the coolest plays of the day so that people will tune in.
Why is it important that people tune in? So ESPN can make money from advertising.
advertisers pay top dollar so all these fans can see their ads.

This may sound crazy and jumbled, as it just popped into my mind... But just think if people turned off SportsCenter for a prolonged amount of time... I wonder if things would change?

Interesting point... it's all over the place.

[alkemical]

I think it's ESPN's fault for promoting individuals over teams (Super Bowl week was a classic example, you seemingly heard more about Terrell Owens than you did about the Patriots or the Eagles) and it's people's fault for buying into the hype.


I don't know about that 100%. Individuals always sold jerseys and put people in seats.

I think it's a fine line between self-promotion, the media, but ultimitly the fans buy it up. So until the fans stop buying it up, the media won't change, and if that doesn't change, self promotion (on this scale) won't stop.

[ro_50]

i like the way TO plays. he may be cocky to some and arrogant. but i dont have a problem w/ him and he showed some heart playing only 7 weeks after that injury.

TO is fine in my book.

[ro_50]

and on the us team note, for anyone that follows the international game would know their are many great players and teams out there.

and they have played together for years. the argentina team was a great team. they didnt upset the us team.

[Tredici]

And a perfectly good bashing TO thread turns gets drug down into basketball. Isn't Lebron good enough to warrant his own let's re-hash all our same opinions thread?

:stuck:

:~ohyah!:

Okay, well if not, let's throw Curt Schilling in there, too. What was everybody's reaction to the heroic bloody sock effort? (And don't try and tell me Schilling isn't a collosal azz, too.)

TO's comment has it's merit. Had it been Brett Farve who was playing in the same circumstances he would've been the biggest gamer of all time. But since it's TO he was just selfish.

Like or not, he's exactly right. And that's what people can't stand.

[FADERPROOF]

I see... Boredom has set in.... You want an arguement... OK!

The Scene is the playoffs the year is 2001. The Raiders have previously beaten the Jets 38-24 in the playoffs ( This is a feat that the donks haven't been able to accomplish since 1998 ) The Raiders next task comes against the Patriots in foxborough in the snow. Walt Colemans crew is on the field when Tom Brady gets his arm chopped by Charles Woodson. The apparent force of the chop on the arm propels the ball forward and makes his arm go in the direction of his body. One smart referee on the field calls it a fumble which was recovered by Greg Biekert. The play is eventually overturned and Raider Fans as well as other football fans think that the Raiders got Jobbed thus the name of that Game in foxboro "The Snow Job" Raider Fans are heard saying... If, Maybe, Coulda.... & Donkey Fans are heard crying about winning a playoff game or making the playoffs if we have a pass rush and Kubiak doesn't go into a nintendo offense... empty backfield etc....

Fast Forward to 2002. The Raiders come into dungver and Rich Gannon torches the donkeys by passing on every down. The Raiders then torch the donkeys again in Oakland, advance to the playoffs and eventually the Superbowl while donkey fans hope and pray that they can just make the playoffs If.... They can just get a pass rush and If Kubiak just stops using the empty backfield set.... The Raiders lose in the SB saving the year for the poor donkey fans who still think that If they can get a pass rush & new offensive co-ordinator they might get close to winning a playoff game without John Elway.

The year is now 2003. Bill Callahan loses his mind and says the Raiders are the Dumbest team in America. Some Raider Fans are heard saying that they wish that John Gruden was back in town ( Not Me! ) The Raiders eventually fall to an atrocious 4-11 record and look forward to the draft and new coaching situation. Mean while In dungver its the first round of the playoffs an donkey fans again are heard saying if we can get a pass rush from Trevor Pryce, Ian Gold & Company we could win our first playoff game since 1998. Of course this also hinges on If Kubiak calls the correct plays ( Plays that shan-a-rat got credit for calling during wins btw ). Indianapolis hangs a 41-10 beating on the donks and the familiar cries of if, maybe, Coulda, Shoulda... Woulda surface again....

2004... Six years since the last playoff victory in dungver and 1 season removed from the Indy 41-10 debacle the donkeys get LOL "A shut down corner" a clear reaction to the heavy ass whippin that Manning handed out. Proceed to make the playoffs while the Raiders improve morale 10 fold and their record by 1 game. Raider Fans are heard saying if we just had a decent running back and some direction on defense we could contend in 2005. Meanwhile in denver the donkeys are winning a meaningless game late in the season against the Colts who are resting their starters. Donk fans can be heard for the umpteenth time saying if we get a pass rush on Manning & If Kubiak calls a good game we should beat Indy.... Final Score Indy 49... Denver 24....

Lebron... I was wrong but, I'm not wrong about this... Lebron plays in a league that has an obvious void in overall talent. Care to debate it or would you rather Give props to T.O. for his game effort against the starting CB's of New England??

Thanks for stating the obvious about what happened to our teams, glad you can point out that we've been to the playoffs the past 2 years while the Raiders have improved from the 2nd overall pick to the 7th, Maybe this year, you guys can set your standards at getting the 12th pick.

I love how LeBron haters use the Eastern Conference as some sort of crutch, he's a great player and would be doing just as good in the West and you know it.

[FADERPROOF]

And a perfectly good bashing TO thread turns gets drug down into basketball. Isn't Lebron good enough to warrant his own let's re-hash all our same opinions thread?

:stuck:

:~ohyah!:

Okay, well if not, let's throw Curt Schilling in there, too. What was everybody's reaction to the heroic bloody sock effort? (And don't try and tell me Schilling isn't a collosal azz, too.)

TO's comment has it's merit. Had it been Brett Farve who was playing in the same circumstances he would've been the biggest gamer of all time. But since it's TO he was just selfish.

Like or not, he's exactly right. And that's what people can't stand.

What TO should understand is that he's built that image of being a slefish, me first player, so any backlash about him trying to be selfish is warranted just as well. If he didn't want to be a selfish kind of guy, maybe he shouldnt have gotten in coordinators faces about getting the ball enough, maybe he shouldn't have continiously bashed Jeff Garcia about his arm strength and ability to get him the ball.

Funny how he complains about people calling him selfish, yet all he could do in the postgame press conference was talk about how he shocked the world with his play.

[-Slap-]

Rep for that, Tredici.

Curt Schilling is a terrific example of the double standard that exists. There's not a more self serving athlete in the world, but he's the ultimate gamer and TO is just an attention starved egomanic. The only difference between them is Schilling is (slightly) more subtle in his agenda. Luckily for him, most people are easily manipulated, if not outright stupid.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

And a perfectly good bashing TO thread turns gets drug down into basketball. Isn't Lebron good enough to warrant his own let's re-hash all our same opinions thread?

:stuck:

:~ohyah!:

Okay, well if not, let's throw Curt Schilling in there, too. What was everybody's reaction to the heroic bloody sock effort? (And don't try and tell me Schilling isn't a collosal azz, too.)

TO's comment has it's merit. Had it been Brett Farve who was playing in the same circumstances he would've been the biggest gamer of all time. But since it's TO he was just selfish.

Like or not, he's exactly right. And that's what people can't stand.

Good post! I'm haven't been a TO the person fan up until know but I'm sure he'll do something to take care of that in the near future.
What he did to come back and play with that injury was amazing!

[Clockwork Orange]

Well since this thread has turned to other selfish athletes who don't seem to get criticized for it, I give you Brett Hull. He gets painted as "colorful" and "outspoken" when the truth is that he's a self-centered a-hole who cares little for the game he plays and less for the fans who pay to watch him.

A couple of classic Brett Hull quotes:

"I don't like hockey, I'm just good at it."

"I don't give a **** about the fans anymore."

But does he get rapped as a cancer? Of course not. Now if he were European, I promise you it'd be a different story.

[Rascal]

Go to hell all of you TO hating morons.

If the guy played on your team you would more then thrilled to have him.

Face it, the guy is a freaking stud and if his performance Sunday night didn't show how tough he is and how much he wanted to win then nothing will.

So the guy is an ass on the field...who cares. With his ability I would be an ass too. The guy makes plays and plays hard.

Besides, what has he personally done to you...other then making your CB's look like 10 year olds? Has he had any off the field issues...and no having that hot chick jumping in your arms does not count as an issue. I would have caught her.

The guy is a stud that plays hard who has awesome talent...you are just jealous he isn't on your team. And this thread has gone 7 pages...good grief.

I should give neg rep to all you morons that hate him, but I don't have the freaking time.

[Tredici]

What TO should understand is that he's built that image of being a slefish, me first player, so any backlash about him trying to be selfish is warranted just as well. If he didn't want to be a selfish kind of guy, maybe he shouldnt have gotten in coordinators faces about getting the ball enough, maybe he shouldn't have continiously bashed Jeff Garcia about his arm strength and ability to get him the ball.

Funny how he complains about people calling him selfish, yet all he could do in the postgame press conference was talk about how he shocked the world with his play.

And maybe he should get the ball more. What did Garcia do in Cleveland? Prove Owens wrong? Or did he whine, whine whine?

If Owens showed up as anything but himself in the post game press conferences everyone would be calling him a phony. The guy says he was taught when you have something to say, then say it. I don't like everything he says but I respect that he doesn't bow to public opinion of what he should say and how he should say it. If he didn't back up any of his talk, like, say, Freddie Mitchell (who it doesn't appear his QB will even look his way even if he's wide open to run from here to China) I'd be more inclined to dislike him.

[FADERPROOF]

Go to hell all of you TO hating morons.

If the guy played on your team you would more then thrilled to have him.

Face it, the guy is a freaking stud and if his performance Sunday night didn't show how tough he is and how much he wanted to win then nothing will.

So the guy is an ass on the field...who cares. With his ability I would be an ass too. The guy makes plays and plays hard.

Besides, what has he personally done to you...other then making your CB's look like 10 year olds? Has he had any off the field issues...and no having that hot chick jumping in your arms does not count as an issue. I would have caught her.

The guy is a stud that plays hard who has awesome talent...you are just jealous he isn't on your team. And this thread has gone 7 pages...good grief.

I should give neg rep to all you morons that hate him, but I don't have the freaking time.

For **** sake, ever thought about calming the hell down?

First, neg repping would probably make you like even more of an idiot, or maybe bluffing a neg rep is making you like a bigger one...either way you look pretty bad.

2nd, it's called an opinion, many people have different ones and they all are allowed to do so. It doesn't mean people are jealous, it doesnt mean they wish he were on the Broncos, it doesnt mean its because he makes people like you...I mean 10 year olds, it simply means that they do not like the way Terrell Owens goes about conducting himself on the field and that is that.

A guy that is a stud that plays hard, what a friggin concept. I'm sure there isn't any others in the league other than Terrell Owens that fits that category.

So calm down, start thinking rational, and realize that people are allowed to have a difference of opinion.

[FADERPROOF]

And maybe he should get the ball more. What did Garcia do in Cleveland? Prove Owens wrong? Or did he whine, whine whine?

If Owens showed up as anything but himself in the post game press conferences everyone would be calling him a phony. The guy says he was taught when you have something to say, then say it. I don't like everything he says but I respect that he doesn't bow to public opinion of what he should say and how he should say it. If he didn't back up any of his talk, like, say, Freddie Mitchell (who it doesn't appear his QB will even look his way even if he's wide open to run from here to China) I'd be more inclined to dislike him.

Hey, there's no better way of asking to want that ball more than to bash your QB and get right in face of your offensive coordinator yelling your ass off at him.

As for what Jeff Garcia did in Cleveland? Probably the same as most every QB would do right here in Cleveland, and thats not much.

[Hogan11]

I don't care if the guy had two broken legs, a strained neck, a couple of broken arms and a few dislocated fingers when he played....I still hate the guy and wouldn't want him on my team, no matter what.

Moron? at least I'm no TO asskisser.....keep on doin' the brown nose dude.

[-Slap-]

And maybe he should get the ball more. What did Garcia do in Cleveland? Prove Owens wrong? Or did he whine, whine whine?

If Owens showed up as anything but himself in the post game press conferences everyone would be calling him a phony. The guy says he was taught when you have something to say, then say it. I don't like everything he says but I respect that he doesn't bow to public opinion of what he should say and how he should say it. If he didn't back up any of his talk, like, say, Freddie Mitchell (who it doesn't appear his QB will even look his way even if he's wide open to run from here to China) I'd be more inclined to dislike him.

Again, I agree. I was 100% on Garcia's side when he and Owens were in San Francisco, but that was before I saw Garcia knife his own head coach in the back last year. Its never cool for any player to criticize the scheme in the media, but for the quarterback to do it is just inexcusable. I also think that Garcia personally owed Butch Davis a lot more than that.

Nobody was beating down the door to sign Garcia last year. He's never been physically impressive and he's getting up there in age. Also, some guys seem a little uncomfortable about getting undressed around him in the lockerroom. Davis gave Garcia a shot to run his offense and then Garcia cried when Davis wouldn't retool the whole scheme to suit him.

Maybe the reason TO was bagging on Garcia in Frisco was because he saw a little too much crying out of the guy who's supposed to be the team leader.

[Maximus]

Thanks for stating the obvious about what happened to our teams, glad you can point out that we've been to the playoffs the past 2 years while the Raiders have improved from the 2nd overall pick to the 7th, Maybe this year, you guys can set your standards at getting the 12th pick.

I love how LeBron haters use the Eastern Conference as some sort of crutch, he's a great player and would be doing just as good in the West and you know it.

Yeah I pointed out the obvious fact that you donk fans have been saying IF... Maybe... etc. Just like every other fanbase that doesn't win a Superbowl. Trying to bring up the "Snow Job" which happened eons ago is pretty lame

[Rascal]

For **** sake, ever thought about calming the hell down?

First, neg repping would probably make you like even more of an idiot, or maybe bluffing a neg rep is making you like a bigger one...either way you look pretty bad.

2nd, it's called an opinion, many people have different ones and they all are allowed to do so. It doesn't mean people are jealous, it doesnt mean they wish he were on the Broncos, it doesnt mean its because he makes people like you...I mean 10 year olds, it simply means that they do not like the way Terrell Owens goes about conducting himself on the field and that is that.

A guy that is a stud that plays hard, what a friggin concept. I'm sure there isn't any others in the league other than Terrell Owens that fits that category.

So calm down, start thinking rational, and realize that people are allowed to have a difference of opinion.

First, **** OFF BITCH!

People on this board are always harping about TO and what a jerk he is...why because he celebrates after torching your ass? Please. The guy has kept his nose clean off the field which is better then I can say for a large portion and yet he gets slammed as a bad guy. What a load of crap.

Go ahead and insult me some more...whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

[labronx]

I don't care if the guy had two broken legs, a strained neck, a couple of broken arms and a few dislocated fingers when he played....I still hate the guy and wouldn't want him on my team, no matter what.

Moron? at least I'm no TO asskisser.....keep on doin' the brown nose dude.


dude nobody is kissing his ass here.

where just stating the facts

the facts are

he is a great player
he has a great work ethic and he is a moron

whether you like him or not that is your opinion

pretty easy huh!

Life is not that hard

[labronx]

First, **** OFF BITCH!

People on this board are always harping about TO and what a jerk he is...why because he celebrates after torching your ass? Please. The guy has kept his nose clean off the field which is better then I can say for a large portion and yet he gets slammed as a bad guy. What a load of crap.

Go ahead and insult me some more...whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

one more post like this and ill have to rep you!;D

[Rascal]

one more post like this and ill have to rep you!;D

go ahead :)

[labronx]

go ahead :)
i need one more pos like the one before though.

I really think you should calm the hell down lol ugh!~

I had the same problem earlier in this thread;D

[Rascal]

i need one more pos like the one before though.

I really think you should calm the hell down lol ugh!~

I had the same problem earlier in this thread;D

Yeah I noticed.

Yet for some reason DenFan feels the need to jump all over me when people were getting excited in the thread earlier. Screw that ****, he can kiss my ass.

Philly, Hogan, and others were going off about how they hated TO and I voiced my opinion...yet he tells me off. Go figure.

[labronx]

Yeah I noticed.

Yet for some reason DenFan feels the need to jump all over me when people were getting excited in the thread earlier. Screw that ****, he can kiss my ass.

Philly, Hogan, and others were going off about how they hated TO and I voiced my opinion...yet he tells me off. Go figure.


I know its funny how they like to put down a player yet when somebody steps up for the player theyll call you a kiss ass or something.

So they can have an opinion but we cant? :kiddingme

thats cool keep on hating life.

[FADERPROOF]

First, **** OFF BITCH!

People on this board are always harping about TO and what a jerk he is...why because he celebrates after torching your ass? Please. The guy has kept his nose clean off the field which is better then I can say for a large portion and yet he gets slammed as a bad guy. What a load of crap.

Go ahead and insult me some more...whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

If it was jsut celebrating on the field, then yeah I don't get why people call him a jerk. But screaming at offensive coordinators, acting like a selfish ass in press conferences, rippng his QB in SF and going as far as saying he is gay..it's not so much a class act when you factor everything in.

[FADERPROOF]

Yeah I noticed.

Yet for some reason DenFan feels the need to jump all over me when people were getting excited in the thread earlier. Screw that ****, he can kiss my ass.

Philly, Hogan, and others were going off about how they hated TO and I voiced my opinion...yet he tells me off. Go figure.

What were you doing to them? JUMPING ALL OVER THEM FOR IT!!

Well I'll be damned, you do something to someone and you get it back, it's called life now go deal with it.

[Hogan11]

I know its funny how they like to put down a player yet when somebody steps up for the player theyll call you a kiss ass or something.

So they can have an opinion but we cant? :kiddingme

thats cool keep on hating life.

Never said you couldn't have an opinion, nor did I ever call his supporters names.....until those not enamored with TO were labelled "Morons" across the board.......when that happens, then you get what you give.

[Rascal]

What were you doing to them? JUMPING ALL OVER THEM FOR IT!!

Well I'll be damned, you do something to someone and you get it back, it's called life now go deal with it.

Did I say I was the only one...no.

[Rascal]

If it was jsut celebrating on the field, then yeah I don't get why people call him a jerk. But screaming at offensive coordinators, acting like a selfish ass in press conferences, rippng his QB in SF and going as far as saying he is gay..it's not so much a class act when you factor everything in.

maybe so, but the reasons I've heard for people not liking him were not those but rather his celebrations.

[labronx]

yes this sick thread is back again!!!

let me read it and find out the latest!

[labronx]

nothing good

[Rascal]

Never said you couldn't have an opinion, nor did I ever call his supporters names.....until those not enamored with TO were labelled "Morons" across the board.......when that happens, then you get what you give.

I guess I should have specified...those who hated TO. Didn't somebody even say he should be killed with Moss? Those are the morons to be more specific.

[Steve Sewell]

omg y dont u come back to bed kthx?

Had to bump this...hilarious.