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alkemical
02-03-2005, 07:29 PM
School Officials Make ID Badges Mandatory for Elementary Students

SUTTER, Calif. (AP) 1.28.05, 9:50a -- Parents of Sutter elementary students told school officials Thursday they're concerned about the school's new policy that requires students to wear security badges.

Brittan Elementary School District Superintendent Earnie Graham said the school is doing a test run to see if the technology improves campus security.

The badges contain a "passive antenna" that emit radio waves to a reader mounted above the doorway in each classroom. The readers picks up the child's ID number and sends it to a handheld computer that tracks attendance.

But parent Dawn Cantrall said the badge was "creepy and cumbersome," and complained that it had too much information on it, including a student's picture, full name and identification number.

"Now somebody can come up to her, see her name, and tell her, 'Your mom told me to pick you up,"' she said.

The school board approved the trial run last summer for kindergarten through eighth grade students. All staff members and volunteers also wear badges, said Graham.

The school board approved the free test run unanimously last summer. Graham held a special meeting Thursday for parents who had concerns about the new policy. Graham apologized for the scant notice given to parents, but said it was to increase school security.

"It's not an option," Graham said. "(The badge) is just like a textbook, you have to have it. I'm charged with running the school district and I get to make those kinds of rules."

The badges are supplied by InCom, a technology firm based in Sutter. The owners offered the school a small donation for the inconvenience of testing the badges and attendance scanners.


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enjolras
02-03-2005, 10:01 PM
Just moronic..

Schools really HAVE become prisons. No wonder so little actual learning seems to be going on (see the thread on high school students and basic civics).

Can't wait till they use these in high schools, someones going to make a fortune outfitting RFID emitters that automatically send the 'here' signal:)

alkemical
02-04-2005, 12:52 PM
Uh oh, wait till dave reads that post....

TheDave
02-04-2005, 12:56 PM
Uh oh, wait till dave reads that post....

I already did thwack, now pardon me while i go brainwash some more kids...

RaiderH8r
02-04-2005, 12:57 PM
Just moronic..

Schools really HAVE become prisons. No wonder so little actual learning seems to be going on (see the thread on high school students and basic civics).

Can't wait till they use these in high schools, someones going to make a fortune outfitting RFID emitters that automatically send the 'here' signal:)
RFID on students????.....

What about convicts? Specifically sexual predators? Thoughts?

alkemical
02-04-2005, 12:59 PM
RFID on students????.....

What about convicts? Specifically sexual predators? Thoughts?


Now, most of you knowing that i'm AGAINST this type of people tracking. (we aren't cattle afterall) I'd consider if someone were on parole, to have an RFID chip but once parole is completed the chip MUST be removed.

alkemical
02-04-2005, 01:01 PM
I already did thwack, now pardon me while i go brainwash some more kids...


Dave, if you are a good teacher - that's good!

But what did Rockefeller say about the public school systems...

To paraphrase, he said that the public school system was not to created a learned people, but more or less cogs in the machine. To make the system work.

I learned how to read, english & spanish, i've also had lots of things, like shop classes that have taught me well.

TheDave
02-04-2005, 01:05 PM
Dave, if you are a good teacher - that's good!

But what did Rockefeller say about the public school systems...

To paraphrase, he said that the public school system was not to created a learned people, but more or less cogs in the machine. To make the system work.

I learned how to read, english & spanish, i've also had lots of things, like shop classes that have taught me well.

See, so in between our brain washing we did some good! guess like everything you need to take the good with the bad.

alkemical
02-04-2005, 01:08 PM
See, so in between our brain washing we did some good! guess like everything you need to take the good with the bad.


School is an institution - and TV has 'programming' - Lots on TV is crap (MTV, Most TV shows) - then you have some good stuff on now and then, like histories mysteries, or a good classic movie - but you have to wade past 'the simple life 10' or 'csi: toledo' to get to it.

I just think schools focus more on comformity.

Just a question dave, do you give out open book tests? Either way, what are your thoughts on such a test.

Old Dude
02-04-2005, 01:12 PM
I think we should put ankle bracelets on everyone so we can track everyone at all times. ID implant chips would work too.









Except for me of course, because it's nobody's business where I am.

Rascal
02-04-2005, 01:15 PM
It's Superintendents like that piss me off. They act like they are God or something. I have never meet a decent superintendent my entire life...burn them ALL freaking fascist son of a bitch bastards.

alkemical
02-04-2005, 01:17 PM
It's Superintendents like that piss me off. They act like they are God or something. I have never meet a decent superintendent my entire life...burn them ALL freaking fascist son of a bitch bastards.


yeah you know those bastards walk into your place when you aren't there.

TheDave
02-04-2005, 01:22 PM
School is an institution - and TV has 'programming' - Lots on TV is crap (MTV, Most TV shows) - then you have some good stuff on now and then, like histories mysteries, or a good classic movie - but you have to wade past 'the simple life 10' or 'csi: toledo' to get to it.

I just think schools focus more on comformity.

Just a question dave, do you give out open book tests? Either way, what are your thoughts on such a test.

I haven't yet, right now it doesn't fit with how i teach. But in the future if i see a need i'm not opposed to it.

Rascal
02-04-2005, 01:22 PM
yeah you know those bastards walk into your place when you aren't there.

the superintendent of my school did do that...he went to my house during day hours. He didn't go to the front door, no he went to the backyard and tried to get in. He just didn't realize that I had a dog that proceeded to rip him apart.

Hotrod
02-04-2005, 01:22 PM
I for one think they should scrap the ID thing. Instead we should try making learning mandatory. I could be wrong but its worth a shot ???

Hotrod
02-04-2005, 01:23 PM
the superintendent of my school did do that...he went to my house during day hours. He didn't go to the front door, no he went to the backyard and tried to get in. He just didn't realize that I had a dog that proceeded to rip him apart.

Ferris rofl

Rascal
02-04-2005, 01:24 PM
Ferris rofl

oh yeah...sometimes i get reality and movies mixed up :)

alkemical
02-04-2005, 01:26 PM
oh yeah...sometimes i get reality and movies mixed up :)


lol sorry, i was having a beef with a super last month about that. Like a building super.

The super in my school we never had much contact with, he was like the Wizard of Oz

alkemical
02-04-2005, 01:26 PM
I haven't yet, right now it doesn't fit with how i teach. But in the future if i see a need i'm not opposed to it.


It would be less that you would have to require the students to prepare for.

alkemical
02-04-2005, 01:28 PM
I for one think they should scrap the ID thing. Instead we should try making learning mandatory. I could be wrong but its worth a shot ???


I think that tagging is pretty stupid - but it's all in the need of saftey

TheDave
02-04-2005, 01:29 PM
It would be less that you would have to require the students to prepare for.

Yeah but isn't that preparation the process of learning?

Rascal
02-04-2005, 01:30 PM
And what about the comment that possibly kidnappers could use the ID card against the students...how is that safe.

IMO this superintendent is a freaking nut job that needs to be examined to make sure he isn't the missing link. Off with his bloody head!!! TO THE GUILLOTINE!!!

Hotrod
02-04-2005, 01:31 PM
Yeah but isn't that preparation the process of learning?


Wait your a teacher ???

alkemical
02-04-2005, 01:31 PM
Yeah but isn't that preparation the process of learning?


That's what i mean, if you give them a test, and a book to look up answers on a test, how is that learning. They don't really have to do anything.

TheDave
02-04-2005, 01:32 PM
Wait your a teacher ???

HS Science & Football coach....

Hotrod
02-04-2005, 01:33 PM
HS Science & Football coach....

Then get out of your mothers basement you bum........j/k ;D

TheDave
02-04-2005, 01:34 PM
That's what i mean, if you give them a test, and a book to look up answers on a test, how is that learning. They don't really have to do anything.

It depends, you can easily make the test hard enough that the use of the book won't help from a time standpoint. Like i said i don't use them now, but maybe the time will come that i see fit.

RaiderH8r
02-04-2005, 01:36 PM
I think we should put ankle bracelets on everyone so we can track everyone at all times. ID implant chips would work too.









Except for me of course, because it's nobody's business where I am.
Maybe we mandate the chip's inclusion for boob jobs, botox, and pecker pumps. And then we send the paparazzi around to harass them and video tape their lives and we air it as a reality series called, It's all in Vain. Or something catchy. Imagine the possibilities.

Rascal
02-04-2005, 01:40 PM
Maybe we mandate the chip's inclusion for boob jobs, botox, and pecker pumps. And then we send the paparazzi around to harass them and video tape their lives and we air it as a reality series called, It's all in Vain. Or something catchy. Imagine the possibilities.

I'd watch the boob job show :)

alkemical
02-04-2005, 01:42 PM
And what about the comment that possibly kidnappers could use the ID card against the students...how is that safe.

IMO this superintendent is a freaking nut job that needs to be examined to make sure he isn't the missing link. Off with his bloody head!!! TO THE GUILLOTINE!!!


I feel that if you have ONE ID card, it's easier to crack than multiple forms of ID and such we have now.