I dont know if we are in offseason mode or not ...

[Spider]

So feel free to move this , but I think this willl spark an interesting debate
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While Montana argues over bison

Friday, January 28, 2005


hunt, Wyo quietly conducts its own

By MARK HENCKE
Billings Gazette

While Montana simmers, stews and boils over at every mention of a bison hunt, Wyoming has cooked up what supporters describe as an effective, well-run and quiet bison hunt.

There are no protesters. There is good hunter response. It is fair chase. And when the National Elk Refuge and Grand Teton National Park conclude an environmental review, the hunt may be even bigger in the years to come.

While bison hunting remains a huge controversy in Montana, Wyoming has managed to harvest 47 bison in 2004, 42 in 2003, and a total of 180 bison since 2000.

"One of the things that helped us is when we came out initially and when the (National Elk) refuge was doing the assessment of the bison herd at Jackson, we went to great lengths to involve the local conservation groups and local communities," said Mark Gocke, regional information and education specialist for the Wyoming Game and Fish Department in Jackson.

"We all sat around the table and talked about the issues. Everybody agreed that hunting was a necessary tool to control the population and protect the habitat we have. We needed a manageable number of bison," he said.

"Only one group opposed -- the Fund for Animals -- and they're opposed to all hunting," Gocke said.

That process began in 1985. The first public bison hunt took place in 1989 with 12 harvested. Since then, there have been some bumps in the road.

In 1990, a group called Legal Action for Animals sued over compliance with the National Environmental Policy Act because the hunt was being conducted on federal land. The Jackson bison hunt was shut down because of the complaint.

In 1994, a management plan was developed for bison leaving Yellowstone National Park and wintering on the North Fork of the Shoshone, west of Cody. It allowed for 15 bull bison to winter there and no cows, due to brucellosis concerns.

In this small wintering population, 12 bull bison were harvested in the winter of 1995-96 and 14 bulls, one cow and one calf were taken in 1996-97 when the 15-bull management goal was exceeded.

After legal hoops were negotiated at Jackson, the hunt there resumed in 1999 on private land, state land and Bridger-Teton National Forest land.

That's where things still sit today, with an environmental impact statement still in the works after five years of work on it by the National Elk Refuge and Grand Teton National Park.

How it works

Craig Sax, a Game and Fish warden at Cody, said Wyoming's approach to a hunt is clear and simple.

"This is a bison reduction program, a bison management program, where you set population objectives and try to harvest the excess," Sax said. "We need the essential management tools of bison reduction where necessary."

The wintering ground on the North Fork of the Shoshone typically attracts few bison, except during really tough winters. It's during those years, when more bison come out of Yellowstone, that hunters who apply for permits are notified and hunts are held.

At Jackson, the bison hunt has been an every-year affair since 1998.

At first, hunters were divided into five time periods. They would attend one of five classroom orientation sessions.

"We talked about a lot of things -- shot placement, boundaries of the hunt, safety, ethics -- and did shooting proficiency tests to make sure hunters came with sighted-in rifles," Gocke said. "It was a pretty labor-intensive hunt.

"But we've been moving toward a more normal big game hunt like the rest of the big game species in Wyoming," he said.

Regulations call for a Sept. 1-Nov. 30 season. All the classroom orientation materials are sent to hunters. Hunters can come when they want. Last fall, there were 25 bull tags and 50 cow/calf tags. Hunters who were successful in the drawings were notified by mail that they were eligible to buy tags.

Bull bison tend to go to the areas where the hunt is held. Cows and calves are more likely to stay in the lowlands on the National Elk Refuge. As a result, hunter success on bulls last fall was 100 percent. Only 32 percent of the cow/calf hunters filled their tags.

According to Sax, the resident application fee (to get on the bison priority list) costs $9, and if you are drawn to participate, the license is $331. The nonresident application fee is $17, and if you are drawn to participate, it's a $2,101 license.

Fair chase

One of the big misconceptions about the bison hunt is that it's not a fair chase hunt, Gocke said.

"These are not dumb animals," he said. "We're not even hunting them very hard. Yes, as these animals are hunted, they are definitely wary and wily. It's just like any big game species. Sometimes you have an easy hunt. But we have cases where you're peeking over a ridge 250 yards away, and they're already off and running from you.

"It's not like you're driving through Yellowstone National Park and are having these animals right next to your car," Gocke said. "It's a fair chase hunt, and these are wild bison."

Gocke said that the bison herd at Jackson is still far from its management goals. The population objective is 400 animals. Currently, the herd is at 800-plus.

"What's limiting us now is how many bison are going to be potentially available on our hunting area and how many hunters can be put in the field without conflict," he said. "The number of bison we're taking now is not curbing the growth of the population."

That could change if Grand Teton National Park and the National Elk Refuge complete their environmental study and the hunting area can be expanded.

In the meantime, the hunts go on.

"We haven't had any disputes in the field," Gocke said. "We haven't had big protests. In a way, we're staying under the radar. But it's also because we went to great lengths before the hunts, and people recognized that hunting was needed to control the population and protect the habitat."

[Atlas]

All the rich Californians have moved to Montana that's why there is such a debate. I lived in S.D. and they hunt(harvest) Buffalo there. It's the same thing as a cow what's the big deal? Buffalo is kind of stringy but tastes good and is more lean than cow.

[RaiderH8r]

Save the Buffalo, shoot the Californians

[Mile High Shack]

All the rich Californians have moved to Montana that's why there is such a debate. I lived in S.D. and the hunt Buffalo there. It's the same thing as a cow what's the big deal? Buffalo is kind of stringy but tastes good and is more lean than cow.

back when this hunt first started when I was in high school and still in MT

we had idiots...and I stress IDIOTS....from the east coast calling everyone who hunted a killer and that they wanted to keep a bison in the back of their yard rather than us crazy Montanans killing them.

Californiaians are the reason I'll never be able to afford to live in MT like I want to

[Arkie]

They need to expand the hunting areas and seasons if they are having trouble curbing the bison population growth.

[Jason in LA]

Save the Buffalo, shoot the Californians

How about shooting all the people that move here.

[Meck77]

"This is a bison reduction program, a bison management program, where you set population objectives and try to harvest the excess," Sax said. "We need the essential management tools of bison reduction where necessary."

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Reduction programs are an essential part of wildlife management. I don't know all the details in Montana but I can tell you that the Elk #'s in Colorado are booming. If it wasn't for the hunters in conjunction with the Colorado Division of Wildlife there would be alot of Elk suffering from disease or starving not to mention certain areas of the habit take a beating that are essential to other animals.

The people that are protesting any type of Bison hunt in Montana should be protesting "Poachers" not hunters. Any hunter is operating under the rules of their DOW and in effect is helping the Bison. It's the Poachers that kill illegally that are the real problem.

[missingnumber7]

Save the Buffalo, shoot the Californians
I grew up in Bozeman in the 80's and now to go back its yuppy california.

[Hotrod]

Kill them all ! No not really but Im all for hunting anything and everything. I live for hunting. Its not just a sport but a way of life for me and my family. I laugh at the anti hunting idiots and would love to send them a video tape every year when the deer and elk around here start dying a slow painful death in my back yard due to winter starvation. Not to mention all the ones that get whacked on the highways. Hunting is good for the animals IMO. Now if I can just get the wife to let me hang my new trophy from this year in the living room. ;D

[RaiderH8r]

Multiple use land management is not a term most city folks are familiar with.

[RaiderH8r]

How about shooting all the people that move here.
You folks in California seem to be doing a fine job of shooting each other. I'm just saying Montana should sponsor a Californian hunt to keep their numbers manageable as well. :)

[Mile High Shack]

Multiple use land management is not a term most city folks are familiar with.

yeah if it's not

double-foam, double-whipped, extra-cinamon, extra vanilla, no whip, no yadd yadda freakin' yadda coffee

those yahoos from CA don't know what you are talking about.

[Hotrod]

Save the Buffalo, shoot the Californians

LOL now there is an idea ^5

[Taco John]

Not until the Monday after the big one....


Moving to off topics...

[RaiderH8r]

yeah if it's not

double-foam, double-whipped, extra-cinamon, extra vanilla, no whip, no yadd yadda freakin' yadda coffee

those yahoos from CA don't know what you are talking about.
While the soccer moms drive their SUVs with the Earth First bumper sticker. I hate a River Runs Through It. Damn Calis really flocked after that piece of sh!t hit the market. Meanwhile another lumber mill announced closure today in MT. Can't fart in the wind without 3 months of hearings, 5 Environmental Impact Statements, an application for gas passage filed through BLM, and a random rectal checks to monitor methane levels.

[RaiderH8r]

Not until the Monday after the big one....


Moving to off topics...
Season's over man. Who cares about the stupor bowl? Pats win, I shoot myself. Eagles win, I shoot Philly fans. Either way I'm a stain on somebody's wall.

[baja]

I have an idea. I'm gonna talk to Mac Donald's to see if I can start a Cow Shoot. After all Mac Donald's pays someone to kill each and every one of the millions of cows it grinds up every year so why not charge a fee for the "joy" of blowing out the brains of your next Big Mac. It could be offered as stress reduction therapy to America's angry men. Hell we could start in grammar school. I can see it now, "Kill your cow become a man only $743.85 plus you get 100 free Big Macs with "I killed this " branded on the patty.

Even Payton could get in on the act. "Shoot that cow, shoot that cow"

[Mile High Shack]

I have an idea. I'm gonna talk to Mac Donald's to see if I can start a Cow Shoot. After all Mac Donald's pays someone to kill each and every one of the millions of cows it grinds up every year so why not charge a fee for the "joy" of blowing out the brains of your next Big Mac. It could be offered as stress reduction therapy to America's angry men. Hell we could start in grammar school. I can see it now, "Kill your cow become a man only $743.85 plus you get 100 free Big Macs with "I killed this " branded on the patty.

Even Payton could get in on the act. "Shoot that cow, shoot that cow"

I don't know what kind of McDonalds they have in Mexico, but here in America, damnit, we have Nutria, not cow in our Big Macs

:) ~Popps~

[RaiderH8r]

I have an idea. I'm gonna talk to Mac Donald's to see if I can start a Cow Shoot. After all Mac Donald's pays someone to kill each and every one of the millions of cows it grinds up every year so why not charge a fee for the "joy" of blowing out the brains of your next Big Mac. It could be offered as stress reduction therapy to America's angry men. Hell we could start in grammar school. I can see it now, "Kill your cow become a man only $743.85 plus you get 100 free Big Macs with "I killed this " branded on the patty.

Even Payton could get in on the act. "Shoot that cow, shoot that cow"
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4832/south/jimbo.gif
It's comin' right for us!

[RaiderH8r]

I don't know what kind of McDonalds they have in Mexico, but here in America, damnit, we have Nutria, not cow in our Big Macs

:) ~Popps~
MMMM, nutria alllghhh

[Mile High Shack]

MMMM, nutria alllghhh

http://nutria.com/piclib/141.jpg

fry me up some ma

[bendog]

controversey in Miss is about "baiting" deer with corn. Problem is that introducing corn into their foodsupply "f's" with natural reproduction and elimination of the "lesser' males, and makes the entire herd more suseptible to disease.

But the problem is that the herd got so small from underregulation, and when the inbred deliverace yahoos down here got around to game management they had deer the size of large dogs, and they were so few that people had to hunt them with packs of dogs, which to me seems rather inhumane ... not to mention I don't want a pack of dogs running around when I'm bicycling, which happened to me twice. I finally gave up riding up around Oxford when I had to carry pepper spray and a revolver. Additionally, it seemed that if you owned some land, and a pack of dogs came along in pursuit of a deer, you had to leave them alone, even if they killed your dog. For some reason the law frowned upon shooting the pack of dogs that was trespassing on your land. I never followed that logic, except they seemed to favor the hunt.

So, now they have too many deer. And the hunters are dwindling. And the hunters left don't want to hike through the woods trying to stalk deer. They want to sit in deer stands with little pee containers, and eat and drink.

Plus, I heard from a hunter that the last deer sausage he had processed came out to 20bucks a pound by the time he factored in his costs of the license, gear, and processing.

[Meck77]

We hunters aren't a bunch of blood thirsty savages. Well except for maybe my friend Bob. This was his first year Elk hunting with us and he got a little excited while we were posing with the back strap of an Elk.

Hmm...Maybe Motana could use this pic on their billboards at the borders of the state to keep the Californians out.

It could say something like "Welcome to Montana where we eat Raw Animals" :)

[Mile High Shack]

controversey in Miss is about "baiting" deer with corn. Problem is that introducing corn into their foodsupply "f's" with natural reproduction and elimination of the "lesser' males, and makes the entire herd more suseptible to disease.

But the problem is that the herd got so small from underregulation, and when the inbred deliverace yahoos down here got around to game management they had deer the size of large dogs, and they were so few that people had to hunt them with packs of dogs, which to me seems rather inhumane ... not to mention I don't want a pack of dogs running around when I'm bicycling, which happened to me twice. I finally gave up riding up around Oxford when I had to carry pepper spray and a revolver.

So, now they have too many deer. And the hunters are dwindling. And the hunters left don't want to hike through the woods trying to stalk deer. They want to sit in deer stands with little pee containers, and eat and drink.

Plus, I heard from a hunter that the last deer sausage he had processed came out to 20bucks a pound by the time he factored in his costs of the license, gear, and processing.


there isn't even a comparison to "hunting" down here in the south compared to the North

freakin' deer stands should be outlawed...these rednecks would die if they really had to hunt like I did in Montana, by hiking and tracking the deer/elk/antelope

[Meck77]

they had deer the size of large dogs,.

I just recently saw some pics of some deer that my friend harvested in Florida. You aren't kidding they were the size of dogs! I couldn't believe it. I never even knew deer could be that small. Hunting for deer out in Colorado is definetly not easy with the terrain of a 12,000 foot mountain in your way but when you finally get one it can be huge.

[Spider]

I 3wanted to see where People landed on this issue before I chimed in .......
Here is my concerns ......
1. Hunting Buffalo is ok as long as it is well regulated ....... I have hauled those Big Shaggys from Canada down to Mecks Neck of the woods ( close to anyway ;D ) to a place outside of Watkins , alot of work and dedication has gone into rebuilding the population of buffalo , it will only take a few Idiots to wreck it again ....... And yes I eat Buffalo ......
2. brucellosis , for those that dont know what it is , it can screw you up , not as bad as mad cow Disease , but stuff is bad , Elk , Buffalo , Antelope ,Deer , carry this and they will spread it to cattle .......
3. Then there is the thrill of seeing these majestic Animals in the wild ......

[bendog]

Elmore Leonard wrote a funny book with nutrea. One of his Billy Bob Holland one's

[RaiderH8r]

The nice thing is when some dipsh!t tourist goes to the park and decides standing next to a buffalo would make for a good picture and gets gored/trampled etc. I laugh. Call the Darwin awards people.

[bendog]

I killed a lot of fish, and hope too kill more soon ... though not from rivers and res in Miss, where the pcp levels seem a bit high. I shot birds once. Not "moral" problem, but the reward didn't seem worth the time and expense. I went on a deer hunt once with some college roomates from Grd Jnct, and I ate antelope sausage people would give me in wyo, so I have no "moral" issue with hunting. But, I've never seen the allure of shooting a standing animal. I understand the heard needs to be culled, but nothing I want to do. I also don't see the allure of the big game ranches they have now. Sort of like shooting a staked goat.

Can I get brucelliosis (sp) from eating buffalo burgers? I eat those sometimes when I get back to the west.

ps, I thought it over twice. I actually wouldn't mind shooting a big shaggy just for the experience of what the buffalo hunters might have experienced. Skinning the thing would prolly kill me though. (-:

Darwin Awards: When the put the grey wolves in Yellowstone and people bicycling through the back country. Hello. I feel bycling should only be done where no preditors are around who can out run you.

[Spider]

Can I get brucelliosis (sp) from eating buffalo burgers? I eat those sometimes when I get back to the west.
There are tested , Wyoming has got thier brucellosis free status back , you are safe if from a resteraunt , grill , bar .........

[Meck77]

I don't undestand the point of hunting big game on fenced ranches either. If they are going to harvest the animals they should just do it and not try to even call it hunting or fool people into thinking that is hunting.

[Mile High Shack]

I don't undestand the point of hunting big game on fenced ranches either. If they are going to harvest the animals they should just do it and not try to even call it hunting or fool people into thinking that is hunting.

I feel sorry for those poor animals that get "hunted" on those "big game ranches"

it's shooting fish in a barrell and is cruel if you ask me

[Spider]

I don't undestand the point of hunting big game on fenced ranches either. If they are going to harvest the animals they should just do it and not try to even call it hunting or fool people into thinking that is hunting.
They do it cause it is Safe , last thing you need is Hunting Big game and run into a Grizzley .....that will end your hunting trip in a hurry ....... Another reason is brucellosis .......Montana doesnt have brucellosis free status ........

[bendog]

My wife's old boss took a trip to Alaska to shoot a bear. Frigging big thing he had stuffed in his office. My daughter used to play with it's hind claws. Thing stood like 8 feet.

Thinking of which, Mrs Dog is FIFTY years old today. FIFTY!!! I'm taking her and Little Girl Dog out to a local dive for burgers and beer and fries and some pool, after which we'll go home and play monopoly. How the hell can I be married to a woman who'd Fifty. But, since she doesn't work anymore, to divorce her, the only way I could make the support payments would be to kill myself for my life insurance. I understand the buffalo's pt of view. I'll order her hamburger 'extra' rare.

[RaiderH8r]

My wife's old boss took a trip to Alaska to shoot a bear. Frigging big thing he had stuffed in his office. My daughter used to play with it's hind claws. Thing stood like 8 feet.

Thinking of which, Mrs Dog is FIFTY years old today. FIFTY!!! I'm taking her and Little Girl Dog out to a local dive for burgers and beer and fries and some pool, after which we'll go home and play monopoly. How the hell can I be married to a woman who'd Fifty. But, since she doesn't work anymore, to divorce her, the only way I could make the support payments would be to kill myself for my life insurance. I understand the buffalo's pt of view. I'll order her hamburger 'extra' rare.
with bacon and double cheese. MMMMM double cheese alllghhhh, and some nutria.

[bendog]

how do people eat nutria? I know Louisiana's state govt actually puts out recipes trying to get people to kill the nasty things. But.... ewwww.

[RaiderH8r]

They do it cause it is Safe , last thing you need is Hunting Big game and run into a Grizzley .....that will end your hunting trip in a hurry ....... Another reason is brucellosis .......Montana doesnt have brucellosis free status ........
I think these naturalists need to understand that mother nature doesn't give a sh@t about you. Once you're in the woods you go from top of the food chain to in the food chain. And without a gun, pretty fu$kin low on the food chain.

[RaiderH8r]

how do people eat nutria? I know Louisiana's state govt actually puts out recipes trying to get people to kill the nasty things. But.... ewwww.
:kiddingme

[Spider]

I think these naturalists need to understand that mother nature doesn't give a sh@t about you. Once you're in the woods you go from top of the food chain to in the food chain. And without a gun, pretty fu$kin low on the food chain.
LOL , you got that right .......

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I grew up huntng, but don't do it anymore. The deer here tastes like dirt and I am to lazy to chase elk.

DOW was up in South Park a couple of weeks ago harvesting some of the elk. They are so thick they are already starving. From the road we saw 5 large herds - probably 200 -300 each. They are also a traffic hazard on 285. There is a domestic Bison herd near Hartsel that continually breaks down the fence and gets on the highway. Understand several elk have been hit on I25 around Castle Pines.

[Hotrod]

there isn't even a comparison to "hunting" down here in the south compared to the North

freakin' deer stands should be outlawed...these rednecks would die if they really had to hunt like I did in Montana, by hiking and tracking the deer/elk/antelope

LOL thats what cracks me up. The difference between hunting mule deer and those stupid white tail. You cant hunt a mule deer with a deer stand. It really is a totally diff animal. I love the out of state idiots that come here to hunt. They burn up $ on gas driving around on the roads all day then complain about the heard size. Then they think your just lucky when you pack out an animal. Bunch of pussies. Road hunters are the faid/chefs of outdoorsmen. rofl

[Spider]

I grew up huntng, but don't do it anymore. The deer here tastes like dirt and I am to lazy to chase elk.

DOW was up in South Park a couple of weeks ago harvesting some of the elk. They are so thick they are already starving. From the road we saw 5 large herds - probably 200 -300 each. They are also a traffic hazard on 285. There is a domestic Bison herd near Hartsel that continually breaks down the fence and gets on the highway. Understand several elk have been hit on I25 around Castle Pines.
I grew up Hunting also , dont do it much now though , My son has shown an Intrest in Hunting , wants me to take him but i dont want to , I do have life insurence , and my Son and Wife have been spending alot of time together ;D

[Hotrod]

They do it cause it is Safe , last thing you need is Hunting Big game and run into a Grizzley .....that will end your hunting trip in a hurry ....... Another reason is brucellosis .......Montana doesnt have brucellosis free status ........


Sorry Spider as much as I like/respect you Im gonna call complete and total bullsh*t on this one. They do it because.

1. The are rich a**holes
2. They are lazy
3. Have no respect for the animal or MY land
4. They want to impress friends/family with their "big" kill

#3 being the most important by far.

[Mile High Shack]

Sorry Spider as much as I like/respect you Im gonna call complete and total bullsh*t on this one. They do it because.

1. The are rich a**holes
2. They are lazy
3. Have no respect for the animal or MY land
4. They want to impress friends/family with their "big" kill

#3 being the most important by far.

gotta go with HR on this one

I'm totally against this form of "hunting"

[Spider]

Sorry Spider as much as I like/respect you Im gonna call complete and total bullsh*t on this one. They do it because.

1. The are rich a**holes
2. They are lazy
3. Have no respect for the animal or MY land
4. They want to impress friends/family with their "big" kill

#3 being the most important by far.
LOL . well I tried ......
My concern would be a Kill attracting a Grizzley into camp ..........

[Hotrod]

LOL . well I tried ......
My concern would be a Kill attracting a Grizzley into camp ..........

rofl you got me I knew something smelled wrong.

[Spider]

rofl you got me I knew something smelled wrong.
;D

[RaiderH8r]

rofl you got me I knew something smelled wrong.
That's me, farted in the tent. Sorry guys

[Spider]

That's me, farted in the tent. Sorry guys
LOL .Chemical warfare ........

[RaiderH8r]

LOL .Chemical warfare ........
Laugh now, but wait til you get a whiff. Hanging out eating nothing but deer meat for a week and drinking cheap beer, no sh@t chemical warfare.

[Spider]

Laugh now, but wait til you get a whiff. Hanging out eating nothing but deer meat for a week and drinking cheap beer, no sh@t chemical warfare.
you evil Bastard ;D
I will lob a few pickled Eggs and Beer farts back at ya ........ ;D

[Mtbrncofn]

back when this hunt first started when I was in high school and still in MT

we had idiots...and I stress IDIOTS....from the east coast calling everyone who hunted a killer and that they wanted to keep a bison in the back of their yard rather than us crazy Montanans killing them.

Californiaians are the reason I'll never be able to afford to live in MT like I want to

You've got that right, Shack....unfortunately. No offense to any of the Californians on the boards, but we all cringe when we see someone from CA hauling their sh*t up here. We don't want our state like theirs, which was, I thought the reason they moved away from it. Leave our hunting and fishing laws alone! And the rest of it too, we like it the way it is....completely un-California-like.

[Hotrod]

you evil Bastard ;D
I will lob a few pickled Eggs and Beer farts back at ya ........ ;D

LOL this thread is even starting to sound like a real hunting camp rofl

Thats ok nobody can compete with my Jack Daniels/sardine farts. They will give you a nose bleed.

[Hotrod]

How do I post a picture off my computer on here ???

[Mtbrncofn]

Laugh now, but wait til you get a whiff. Hanging out eating nothing but deer meat for a week and drinking cheap beer, no sh@t chemical warfare.

Then ya gotta throw the dog in the mix like us here wacky Montanans do. Throw your deer parts....heads, feet, legs, etc out in the yard and let your dog have it for awhile. I think I have lost some of my eyesight from all the noxious fumes I suffered through growing up here. Ha!

[Atlas]

back when this hunt first started when I was in high school and still in MT

we had idiots...and I stress IDIOTS....from the east coast calling everyone who hunted a killer and that they wanted to keep a bison in the back of their yard rather than us crazy Montanans killing them.

Californiaians are the reason I'll never be able to afford to live in MT like I want to

Face it Montana is a beautiful place to live. Unfortunatley the Californians and est coasters have found this out too.

[Mtbrncofn]

LOL this thread is even starting to sound like a real hunting camp rofl

Thats ok nobody can compete with my Jack Daniels/sardine farts. They will give you a nose bleed.


I know hunting camps around here aren't complete until you've listened to the "Turdy Point Buck" a few dozen times while you're drinking yourself into oblivion.

[Spider]

LOL this thread is even starting to sound like a real hunting camp rofl

Thats ok nobody can compete with my Jack Daniels/sardine farts. They will give you a nose bleed.
ewwwwwwwww !!!!!!!! Congrats you just made a big Redneck in Wyoming say ewwwwwwww I hope you are proud of yourself ;D

[Spider]

How do I post a picture off my computer on here ???
go to manage attachments , then search for the picture you want .........

[Spider]

I know hunting camps around here aren't complete until you've listened to the "Turdy Point Buck" a few dozen times while you're drinking yourself into oblivion.
LOL ....... I know that song

[Mtbrncofn]

Meanwhile another lumber mill announced closure today in MT.

Yeah, like Eureka, Trego, and their surrounding areas could really afford that. That's a darn poor place as it is already.

[Mtbrncofn]

LOL ....... I know that song


It's pretty darn funny. I have to admit, those guys in that song are how I have pretty much all Packer's fan pictured. :D

[bendog]

lumber, whats up with that? Pine tree farms are big down here.

oh well, off for the weekend. Thank God for box wine.

[Hotrod]

It's pretty darn funny. I have to admit, those guys in that song are how I have pretty much all Packer's fan pictured. :D

Are you all making fun of my "theme song" rofl

All the road kill around my house has my dogs bringing back deer parts. The wife got abit upset the other day when one of them brought in and left a partial deer leg on the couch. I hope the game warden does not drive by my yard or Im gonna have some explaining to do.

[Hotrod]

go to manage attachments , then search for the picture you want .........


Ok laugh if you must but what is "manage attachements" ???

[Hotrod]

Never mind rofl

[Spider]

[Spider]

Never mind rofl
LOL ........

[Mtbrncofn]

Are you all making fun of my "theme song" rofl

All the road kill around my house has my dogs bringing back deer parts. The wife got abit upset the other day when one of them brought in and left a partial deer leg on the couch. I hope the game warden does not drive by my yard or Im gonna have some explaining to do.

Bwahahahhaha....have fun cohabitating with your dog this week, hotrod. ugh!~

[Hotrod]

Damn the thing keeps saying my picks have to many KB's (what ever those are) I had some cool pics of deer and Elk on my property.

[Mtbrncofn]

Have Spider work them over for you.

[Hotrod]

Bwahahahhaha....have fun cohabitating with your dog this week, hotrod. ugh!~


LOL Im just happy she never knew about the rabbit. who would have thought after being carried around in the dogs mouth it would manage to wake up in the kitchen like that.

[Spider]

Damn the thing keeps saying my picks have to many KB's (what ever those are) I had some cool pics of deer and Elk on my property.
too big these pics are , convert them to gifs you must do .........
Go here http://www.snapfiles.com/freeware/gmm/fwgcomp.html
young Jedi face your destiny you must .......May the force be with you ;D

[Mtbrncofn]

LOL Im just happy she never knew about the rabbit. who would have thought after being carried around in the dogs mouth it would manage to wake up in the kitchen like that.

rofl Some things are best left unknown! Ok, I'll admit it, if I had run into the rabbit in my kitchen, I would have screamed like a little girl. Which would be entirely allowable being that I am a girl. ;D

[Hotrod]

too big these pics are , convert them to gifs you must do .........
Go here http://www.snapfiles.com/freeware/gmm/fwgcomp.html
young Jedi face your destiny you must .......May the force be with you ;D

Me now working on gif'ing my pics please stand by. rofl

[Spider]

Me now working on gif'ing my pics please stand by. rofl
;D I thought I did a good impersonation of a Picard / Spock inner breeding off spring ......

[Spider]

http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_hunting_dog.jpg

[Spider]

Sign outside of Hotrods house ....... http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_jan2001/RedneckCalculator.jpg

[Hotrod]

LOL

Im having trouble working this here "gifing" maching rofl

[Mtbrncofn]

Have a beed, hotrod...that helped with the whole door thing, remember? ;)

[Hotrod]

Have a beed, hotrod...that helped with the whole door thing, remember? ;)

LOL how could I forget the cold beed's. Im just 30 minutes away from one right now.


Spider this GIf'ing thing does not work I want my $ back.

[Spider]

LOL

Im having trouble working this here "gifing" maching rofl
;D once you learn you can make things like this Bro .......

[Hotrod]

This thing is killing me it does not believe I have any pictures. I go to the file where they are and nothing comes up. :gus:

[Spider]

This thing is killing me it does not believe I have any pictures. I go to the file where they are and nothing comes up. :gus:
Email the pics to me , I will take care of them ........ Pm comming with my Email addy

[Hotrod]

I need to enroll in the School of Spiders cool computer stuff. ;D

[Mtbrncofn]

Me too, hotrod. He always makes the coolest things. I figure I am doing pretty good now though, considering I know how to put a pic in my sig line ( thanks to Spider ), resize a picture ( damn shock ), and just generally post idiotic things on the board. :)

[RaiderH8r]

LOL this thread is even starting to sound like a real hunting camp rofl

Thats ok nobody can compete with my Jack Daniels/sardine farts. They will give you a nose bleed.
I don't know, I've been known to peel paint and cause cancer. Duck, the room is going black. :moody:

[Rock Chalk]

How about shooting all the people that move here.
The people that move there aren't the problem, its the people that live there now :P

Im all for hunting. I dont hunt myself, not being able to bring myself to kill a wild animal unless directly threatened, but Im all for others hunting if that is their desire.

We almost wiped the Bison out yes, but somehow I seriously doubt that is the kind of hunting that is being called for here and I have serious doubts that we will ever hunt the bison so visciously as to put them back on the endangered species list.

Go for it.

[Hogan11]

I used to do the hunting thing a lot and fully support it.

All this anti-east coast bias makes me wanna do a little hunting in Montana.....and if I miss the deer and take out some of the anti-easterner locals by mistake...well then, just consider it urban renewal ;D

[Spider]

Here hotrod .....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/spiderinwy/100_0127.jpg

[Spider]

Here hotrod .....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/spiderinwy/100_0127.jpg

[Spider]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=10393

[Spider]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/spiderinwy/deer1.jpg

[Spider]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/spiderinwy/elk2.jpg

[Hotrod]

Thanks Spider,

I get to watch those Elk and more often the deer from my livingroom window every morning & night. Its pretty awesome. I have a couple of pictures of some bighorn that were down here for awhile but they headed back up the hill already.

[Spider]

Thanks Spider,

I get to watch those Elk and more often the deer from my livingroom window every morning & night. Its pretty awesome. I have a couple of pictures of some bighorn that were down here for awhile but they headed back up the hill already.
Sweet ...... Thats the good life Bro ........ Kick back , after screwing up a screen door ( had to get that in ;D ) and watching wildlife ;D

[Hotrod]

Sweet ...... Thats the good life Bro ........ Kick back , after screwing up a screen door ( had to get that in ;D ) and watching wildlife ;D


rofl to my boss's errr wifes surprise that door is still hanging ;D

[Spider]

rofl to my boss's errr wifes surprise that door is still hanging ;D
then it was a success ;D

[baja]

I think these naturalists need to understand that mother nature doesn't give a sh@t about you. Once you're in the woods you go from top of the food chain to in the food chain. And without a gun, pretty fu$kin low on the food chain.

Not true - I spent most of my youth in the Maine woods and never had a serious problem with a animal. Outa state hunters yes but never an indigenous animal and I encountered just about every species known to the Maine woods in my time.

Here in Baja it's rattle snakes but they don't bother ya either. I slep on the grond with them fro three years and never had as much as a close call, well one close call but that was my fault.

[RaiderH8r]

Not true - I spent most of my youth in the Maine woods and never had a serious problem with a animal. Outa state hunters yes but never an indigenous animal and I encountered just about every species known the Maine woods in my time.
Yeah, those rabid maine squirrels are a nuisance, but it's not really the same as a Moose or a Grizzly bear. :poke:

[baja]

Yeah, those rabid maine squirrels are a nuisance, but it's not really the same as a Moose or a Grizzly bear. :poke:

You don't think ther are Moose or brown bear or black bear in Maine ? Where you from New Yark Citttyyy

[RaiderH8r]

You don't think ther are Moose or brown bear or black bear in Maine ? Where you from New Yark Citttyyy
Black bear?? I crap bigger than them little buggers. They have long claws that I can use to scratch me arse. :woowoo:

[baja]

Oh ya, be my guest

http://www.bearpaw.ab.ca/images/bear2002/black_bear_12_2002s.jpg

[baja]

maybe this is the one you saw?

http://www.animalfirm.com/bear.jpg

[Crushaholic]

"O give me a home where the buffalo roam. And the deer and the antelope fornicate with Chief fans..."

Darn it. Why can't I get the words to my state song, right? I'll keep working on it... ;)

As a representative of the state where the "buffalo roam" (Kansas), I give you my complete permission to shoot the bastards. Buffalo, I mean. We'll save shooting the Chiefs fans for later. As long as we can keep them from breeding... Ha!

[orinjkrush]

ok, tangential to the topic....how many of you OM'ers own guns and....and.....use them?
I have handguns and rifles, but don't hunt much. Too busy on Sundays watching fooball and drinkin beer. Now, when the fireball goes up here in OZ (DC) I'm sure they'll come in handy.

[Bronx33]

YES if that area is in need of thinning based on overpopulation (in that area) buffalo burgers ROCK!

[Bronx33]

ok, tangential to the topic....how many of you OM'ers own guns and....and.....use them?
I have handguns and rifles, but don't hunt much. Too busy on Sundays watching fooball and drinkin beer. Now, when the fireball goes up here in OZ (DC) I'm sure they'll come in handy.


I have a few weapons in stock for various uses a couple 22s fun and blue grouse 223. coyote and praire dogs 308. deer/elk SKS 39X5.56 coyote/fun/fun/fun 8mm mauser its old my old man gave it to me but it shoots straight but its ugly and looks like it was used to beat the crttters instead of shooting them.I dont get out as much as i used to but they are there when i want to, i love the smell of gunpowder and gun oil!

[Arkie]

My only gun is a Benelli Super Black Eagle 12-gauge. I hunted the flooded fields in Arkansas when I lived there. Duck hunting is the only hunting that's fun for me. There's not enough action in hunting deer.

[Mtbrncofn]

ok, tangential to the topic....how many of you OM'ers own guns and....and.....use them?
I have handguns and rifles, but don't hunt much. Too busy on Sundays watching fooball and drinkin beer. Now, when the fireball goes up here in OZ (DC) I'm sure they'll come in handy.


We do own quite a few guns, mostly hunting rifles. But uh, yes it has been quite a while since they have been used for something other than target practice. Always good to have though. Besides, I think there is some kind of unwritten law in Montana about having to own a gun. :)

[Hogan11]

I had a couple of shotguns and owned a 9 MM when I lived in NC (You needed a handgun if you lived in Gastonia for any amount of time, trust me on that)...I've since sold them all.

[Hotrod]

9mm home defense/play
muzzleloader elk/deer
30.06 elk/deer
257 roberts deer
.22 fun
left/right arm beating chef fans