35 Americans Killed In Iraq

[Bronco_Beerslug]

In the deadliest day since the attack and invasion of Iraq so far
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Marine Helicopter Crash Kills 31 in Iraq
By SAMEER N. YACOUB, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A U.S. military transport helicopter crashed in bad weather in Iraq (news - web sites)'s western desert Wednesday, killing 31 people, all believed to be Marines, in the deadliest incident for U.S. troops since the war began, officials said. Insurgents killed four American troops in an ambush and carried out a flurry of attacks on sites linked to this weekend's elections.

A Bush administration official said there were no survivors from the crash and that the cause was not immediately known.

The CH-53 Sea Stallion, which was carrying personnel from the 1st Marine Division, went down about 1:20 a.m. near the town of Rutbah, about 220 miles west of Baghdad, while conducting security operations, the military said in a statement.

A search and rescue team has reached the site and an investigation into what caused the crash was under way. The administration official said there was bad weather at the time.

The official said Wednesday that all 31 people killed in the crash were believed to be U.S. Marines — the most American servicemembers to die in a single incident in Iraq. It was also the deadliest day for U.S. forces since the March 2003 invasion.

"We are saddened anytime there is loss of life of our troops in harm's way," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

In Iraq's Anbar province, four U.S. Marines were killed in fighting, the military said in a statement.

The statement gave no further details, but WABC reporter Jim Dolan, who was embedded with the troops who were attacked, said the deaths came when insurgents ambushed a Marine convoy leaving the town of Haditha, west of Baghdad, hitting a vehicle with a rocket-propelled grenade.

With the four Marines' deaths, at least 1,376 members of the U.S. military have died in Iraq, according to an Associated Press count. If all 31 dead in the crash are confirmed to be military personnel, the count would rise to 1,407.

The previous single deadliest incident for U.S. troops was also a helicopter crash: a November 2004 collision of two Black Hawk helicopters that were trying to avoid ground fire, killing 17 servicemembers. Earlier that month, a Chinook transport helicopter was shot down by shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missile near Fallujah, killing 16 American soldiers and wounding 26.

The U.S. military has lost at least 33 helicopters since the start of the war, including at least 20 brought down by hostile fire, according to a study by the Brookings Institution. (CONTINUED)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20050126/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

[Mile High Shack]

this wasn't brought down by hostile fire, but bad weather

choppers are the hardest things to fly

that is sad

[Rascal]

This sucks.

My prayers to them, their families, and fellow soldiers.

This whole thing is really beginning to piss me off.

My cousin flies blackhawks (has over 8,000 hours for the marines) and he said he hates to go up because they are a bitch.

[Montaq]

I remember the Repugs being all over Clinton when a helicopter crashed in Kosovo.

[Mile High Shack]

this isn't about Clinton

it's sad when 31 people die in helicopter crashes

[Rascal]

I remember the Repugs being all over Clinton when a helicopter crashed in Kosovo.

what a stool.

[Montaq]

I'm not the one who sent these soldiers to Iraq. I don't gain anything politically or financially for a war in Iraq unlike someone else.

[Rascal]

This from the same guy who said Iraq was better off under Saddam.

My iggy only has two names on it (freak15 and telluride) guess it's time to add a third.

[Montaq]

This from the same guy who said Iraq was better off under Saddam.

My iggy only has two names on it (freak15 and telluride) guess it's time to add a third.

You must have the Bush administration on your iggy list as well. That's the only way you can not be outraged at the manner the occupation of Iraq has been handled.

[Eye Patch]

this isn't about Clinton



Speaking of Clinton... here's to his concept of sex as passed on by our president to the youth of America..

Now if I can only get the wife to allow my beautiful co-worker to smoke the pole and not get upset because after all “it's not sex”.

Katie Couric:

“How do teenagers view oral sex today?”

Galen: “It's like not a big deal or not as big a deal to some people because

it's not sex.

It's not intercourse, and it's just like, it's not as intimate or anything like that. Everyone just sees it as casual. Maybe not as casual as kissing, but it's like, no big whoop.”

[Montaq]

Speaking of Clinton... here's to his concept of sex as passed on by our president to the youth of America..

Now if I can only get the wife to allow my beautiful co-worker to smoke the pole and not get upset because after all “it's not sex”.

Katie Couric:

“How do teenagers view oral sex today?”

Galen: “It's like not a big deal or not as big a deal to some people because

it's not sex.

It's not intercourse, and it's just like, it's not as intimate or anything like that. Everyone just sees it as casual. Maybe not as casual as kissing, but it's like, no big whoop.”

haha.. Can we then blame Bush for all DUI's?

[Mile High Shack]

haha.. Can we then blame Bush for all DUI's?

Bush got a DUI while in office?

hahaha

[Montaq]

Bush got a DUI while in office?

hahaha

Oh, it's the timing. So, if Clinton would have gotten blown by an intern in the 70's it would have been ok? If you're only accountable for transgressions while in office somebody should tell Agnew he didn't need to resign.

[Mile High Shack]

Oh, it's the timing. So, if Clinton would have gotten blown by an intern in the 70's it would have been ok? If you're only accountable for transgressions while in office somebody should tell Agnew he didn't need to resign.

he wasn't the leader of the free world yet

as was Clinton during his forray into his oral sex

besides it wasn't about oral sex it was about him lying under oath

ugh, do we have to go over this again?

[Montaq]

he wasn't the leader of the free world yet

as was Clinton during his forray into his oral sex

besides it wasn't about oral sex it was about him lying under oath

ugh, do we have to go over this again?

Lying under oath? Do you get around that by refusing to speak to say.. I don't know.. the 9/11 commission if you're going to be under oath?


It wasn't about him lying under oath, it was about a vandetta of the Republican party and Ken Starr.

[Montaq]

he wasn't the leader of the free world yet

as was Clinton during his forray into his oral sex

besides it wasn't about oral sex it was about him lying under oath

ugh, do we have to go over this again?

It's sad that people think that adultery is a worse offense for a president then war profiteering.

[Eye Patch]

haha.. Can we then blame Bush for all DUI's?

sure why not you blame him for everything else.... or was that beerslug... wait that's LABF.

damn it's so hard to keep track of you brain dead liberals.

[Eye Patch]

It's sad that people think that adultery is a worse offense for a president then war profiteering.

lighten up dude... it was a joke about the oral sex not being sex.

I don't care if Billy used a fat cum receptacle in the oval office.

Hell he has to live with that legacy of poinking fat ugly chicks... not me.

[Mile High Shack]

Hell he has to live with that legacy of poinking fat ugly chicks... not me.

dude, that's not what I hear

[Sideburn]

Fat chicks need love too!

[RaiderH8r]

Two words...Paula Jones ugh!~

[Rascal]

Okay sideburn you can have all of the fat chicks, send all of the non-fat ones to me untampered!!!

[Sideburn]

Okay sideburn you can have all of the fat chicks, send all of the non-fat ones to me untampered!!!
Deal!

You may have your skinny non cooking chicks, I will eat well with the plumpers.

[Eye Patch]

Two words...Paula Jones ugh!~

Juanita Broderick...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

sure why not you blame him for everything else.... or was that beerslug... wait that's LABF.

damn it's so hard to keep track of you brain dead liberals.
Just so you mentally challenged Bushies can keep up, I don't blame Bush for anything except..

1) He attacked and invaded a country that was no threat to us. So far the cost has been over 1400 American lives and 20,000 casualties. Oh yeah, over 300 billion too.

2) He has run up a record deficit, record national debt and record trade deficit.

3) He is going to give up to 15 million criminals amnesty.

4) He has rolled back environmental protections in the name of corporate profit.

5) He has stood watch over the highest number of Americans living in poverty in our history.

6) He has stood watch over the highest number of Americans without health insurance in our history.

7) He has failed to secure our borders in lieu of his war against Iraq.

8) He has spent more money than any other president in our history (and basically has accomplished nothing other than busting some steroid users).

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Back to the topic...


37 Troops Killed in Deadliest Day in Iraq

y SAMEER N. YACOUB, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A Marine transport helicopter crashed during sandstorms in Iraq (news - web sites)'s western desert Wednesday, killing 31 troops, while insurgents killed six other American military personnel in the deadliest day for U.S. forces since the Iraq war began.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20050126/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

[Rascal]

Deal!

You may have your skinny non cooking chicks, I will eat well with the plumpers.

Well since they won't be eating, I'll take their food.

Besides, I'll hire a chef.

[RaiderH8r]

Just so you mentally challenged Bushies can keep up, I don't blame Bush for anything except..

1) He attacked and invaded a country that was no threat to us. So far the cost has been over 1400 American lives and 20,000 casualties. Oh yeah, over 300 billion too.

2) He has run up a record deficit, record national debt and record trade deficit.

3) He is going to give up to 15 million criminals amnesty.

4) He has rolled back environmental protections in the name of corporate profit.

5) He has stood watch over the highest number of Americans living in poverty in our history.

6) He has stood watch over the highest number of Americans without health insurance in our history.

7) He has failed to secure our borders in lieu of his war against Iraq.

8) He has spent more money than any other president in our history (and basically has accomplished nothing other than busting steroid users).

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Back to the topic...


37 Troops Killed in Deadliest Day in Iraq

y SAMEER N. YACOUB, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A Marine transport helicopter crashed during sandstorms in Iraq (news - web sites)'s western desert Wednesday, killing 31 troops, while insurgents killed six other American military personnel in the deadliest day for U.S. forces since the Iraq war began.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20050126/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
Bustin Barroid Bonds will be one for the ages though. Warm up the asterisk.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

besides it wasn't about oral sex it was about him lying under oath

ugh, do we have to go over this again?

Apparently so (since you seem unaware of the fact that Clinton was acquitted by the Senate and that several legal panels and hundreds of legal scholars concluded that the "independent" counsel's case for perjury didn't wash.)

Two words...Paula Jones

Two words: "Dry hole." (No pun intended.)

First the repukes decided to impeach Clinton - then they looked for a crime.

Talk about a bunch of "whiners" who were unable to "get over" the results of two presidential elections and "move on."

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You must have the Bush administration on your iggy list as well. That's the only way you can not be outraged at the manner the occupation of Iraq has been handled.

:thumbsup:

Post of the day!

Ignoring inconvenient reality is the only way the Bush Davidians can sustain the foregone conclusion that the monkey never makes mistakes and that everything in Bush's America is coming up roses (or, if not, then it's Clinton's fault.)

Can we then blame Bush for all DUI's?

Montaq is on a roll and kicking some serious monkey ass!

[errand]

I'm not the one who sent these soldiers to Iraq. I don't gain anything politically or financially for a war in Iraq unlike someone else.

LABF...see what we mean?

Yeah, and of course, this accident never would have happened here in the US right?

[RaiderH8r]

Apparently so (since you seem unaware of the fact that Clinton was acquitted by the Senate and that several legal panels and hundreds of legal scholars concluded that the "independent" counsel's case for perjury didn't wash.)



Two words: "Dry hole." (No pun intended.)

First the repukes decided to impeach Clinton - then they looked for a crime.

Talk about a bunch of "whiners" who were unable to "get over" the results of two presidential elections and "move on."
Acquitted by the Senate on a straight party line vote. A vote that since has gotten the GOP control of the Senate. So I guess the American public bumped the proper clowns into retirement. How's your boy Trafficant doing by the way? Daschle? He's one of the new unemployed. But you're right, these elections are an aberration, you are truly the one that is "in touch" with America. Keep up the good work.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Apparently so (since you seem unaware of the fact that Clinton was acquitted by the Senate and that several legal panels and hundreds of legal scholars concluded that the "independent" counsel's case for perjury didn't wash.)


You're right there was nothing there. That's why Clinton made a plea deal with Ray admitting that he testified falsely to avoid a criminal indictment when he left office, and did the same in Arkansas to avoid a criminal charge there. He also agreed to have his law license in Arkansas suspended for 5 years since he probably would have been disbarred if the ethics case against him moved forward. So why would he have done all that if, as you say, so many legal scholars said that "the perjury charge didn't wash"? If there was nothing there, he should have fought it and had himself exonerated.

[ClevelandBronco]

What the hell is going on here? 30 Marines and a Navy SEAL die in a helicopter accident (ACCIDENT, guys. Those things happen even in training exercises.) and all we can do is bitch about the politics of their deaths?

We're about to make it possible for a nation of people to vote their choice for the first time ever. Elected Iraqis will take over Iraq. This is a seachange moment in world history.

These men died for the freedom of millions. I'll die for nothing that can compare to that. These guys should be mourned. They should be celebrated. They should not be used as political tools. Their lives meant so much more than that.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Acquitted by the Senate on a straight party line vote.

Wrong again.

It wasn't a straight party line vote - there were 10 Republican Senators who voted "no" on the articles of impeachment. There would have been more had DeLay not used every slimy tactic in the book to strong-arm as many moderates in the GOP into supporting impeachment as he could.

Busting you on your disinformation and lies is as easy as falling out of bed.

But you're right, these elections are an aberration...

An "abberation?" Not by any means. More like "carefully planned, systematic, multi-tiered fraud."

The AWOL monkey was only able to "win" in 2000 via a judicial coup and systematic disenfranchisement of thousands of voters. The frat boy "won" in '04 via more of the same - plus a lot of help from Diebold and the other three GOP-owned eVoting machine manufacturers.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You're right there was nothing there. That's why Clinton made a plea deal with Ray admitting that he testified falsely to avoid a criminal indictment when he left office, and did the same in Arkansas to avoid a criminal charge there. He also agreed to have his law license in Arkansas suspended for 5 years since he probably would have been disbarred if the ethics case against him moved forward. So why would he have done all that if, as you say, so many legal scholars said that "the perjury charge didn't wash"? If there was nothing there, he should have fought it and had himself exonerated.

Let's correct this ditto monkey disinfo with the facts:

1) Four hundred legal scholars signed a letter attesting to the unconstitutionality of the impeachment process. (But since when have the constitution or the rule of law ever mattered to republicans?)

2) A bipartisan panel of prosecutors testified that no responsible prosecutor would bring perjury charges on the facts before them.

3) Clinton later agreed to a deal with Robert Ray, i.e., a temporary suspension of his law licence in exchange for Ray's promise to shut down the "independent" counsel's investigation. In other words, Ray said, "give me my pound of flesh and my fifteen minutes of fame, or I'll keep harassing you over the same bogus charges until the end of your term." (Just like Starr had already done for the previous eight years.)

The irony is that Ken Starr actually did commit perjury in a hearing leading up to impeachment (he lied to a federal judge by testifying under oath that he had never asked Lewinski to wear a wire when the FBI records documented that he had) but he (surprise) walked.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

What the hell is going on here? 30 Marines and a Navy SEAL die in a helicopter accident...

...These men died for the freedom of millions.

No, they didn't.

They died for the greed of a small group of wealthy plutocrats and for a pack of lies.

That's what makes their deaths all the more senseless, tragic, and unforgivable.

I'm glad those brave men who gave their lives for this country on D Day aren't here to see what a coke-snorting, drunk-driving, AWOL-going, never-worked-a-day-in-his life, white collar criminal punk and his robber baron cronies have done to the country for whose security, well-being, and greater good they made the ultimate sacrifice.

The surviving members of the greatest generation must weep as they witness the plunder and rape of a prosperity and a democracy they labored so long and hard to create.