The Orange Mane John Lynch Stupid Fine Fund

[baja]

We could do this through Pay Pal - how about it TJ

I'll start the ball rolling with 25 dollars

[baja]

If we have enough support here and we e mail CBS this would be a story guaranteed and it would be our way to show support directly to John.

[Spider]

I dont think it is allowed Baja .... i remember some passing of the Hat for KK , and the NFL came down hard on the Broncos for it

[baja]

I'm not talking about his team mates Spider I'm talking about us doing it here.

The NFL can not bully us now can thay..

[Sassy]

Nice idea!
I'd be willing...

[Meck77]

Sign me up for $25.00

The hell with the NFL!!!!

That was the best play of the game. Well worth 25 bones.

[Spider]

I'm not talking about his team mates Spider I'm talking about us doing it here.

The NFL can not bully us now can thay..
good point ........ No the NFL cant bully us

[Meck77]

Baja you should start this on the Broncos board and the freak board.

[baja]

OK Meck I'll start it on the DPO will you do it on the freak board I'm not registered there or if I am I forgot my password

[baja]

This could be a great way to show the NFL what the core fans think about the sissifying of the NFL

[Sassy]

Who's collecting the bucks?

[Fusionfrontman]

I think its a great idea...show the NFL that we wont tolerate their biasness toward the ****s..err colts

[Hogan11]

I dont think it is allowed Baja .... i remember some passing of the Hat for KK , and the NFL came down hard on the Broncos for it


That's why I've been calling for it quietly....I'll do it though, I'm getting tired of the "sissification" of the NFL.

[Breck Bronc]

In 2003 a New York Yankees message board collected money to pay for Don Zimmer's fine after his "fight" with Pedro Martinez. If I recall, Zimmer thanked them for the effort but paid the fine himself and asked for the donations from the message board users to be given to a charity instead.

Zimmer's fine wasn't anywhere near $75,000, though.

[Meck77]

Ok Baja...I'll hit up the freaks and ask Damsel to hit the Broncos board. We have quiet a few media contacts that we met along the way this year. Each and every one of the names listed belows got an Orange Force One Bus card that has a link to the OrangeMane on it.

Scott Hastings-KOA Radio
Roach-Koa Radio
Steve Gottsagen-7 news Sportscaster
Chris Tanaka-Fox 31 Sports Producer
Tim Lewis-Espn Radio


We have all their contact info and they have the Manes. It wouldnt' surprise me if some of these guys lurk around here. We met more of these guys but this is more than enough to get the word out that the Broncos fans think this Lynch deal is bogus.

Before we get too far into this though we may want to bounce this off of Taco.

Taco you around? You cool with the Orangemane raising some hell?

[Sassy]

In 2003 a New York Yankees message board collected money to pay for Don Zimmer's fine after his "fight" with Pedro Martinez. If I recall, Zimmer thanked them for the effort but paid the fine himself and asked for the donations from the message board users to be given to a charity instead.

Zimmer's fine wasn't anywhere near $75,000, though.
If it's not allowed, we could donate the money to Lynch's favorite charity...that's what I was thinking...

Does he have his own charity???

[Meck77]

yup sure does....phone # is listed and here is the website.

http://www.johnlynchfoundation.org/newsdetails.asp?NewsID=31

Wow...look at all the programs he has going. Nice work John!

[Spider]

yup sure does....phone # is listed and here is the website.

http://www.johnlynchfoundation.org/newsdetails.asp?NewsID=31

Wow...look at all the programs he has going. Nice work John!
Man .. he does get involved in a community doesnt he ........ Impressive

[Cosmo]

I'm up for 30.00 bucks, is someone really setting this up? Or wabbit, can you find out how we can do this through the team?

[baja]

It is a travesty to slander the reputation of a man of the quality of Mr. John Lynch and this fan based collection to pay his fine is a very good way to stand up for our beliefs. So many times in today's world we sit back and say nothing when we see a wrong thing being done. At some point we the little people need to stand up for something. Although in the grand scheme of things this is a small matter it is none the less a worthy cause. "They" are ruining our favorite pastime don't we owe it to ourselves to speak up in a way that can be heard.

With Meck and Damsel's help this will become a playoff story. The networks love these human interest stories. So what do you guys say........

[Taco John]

yup sure does....phone # is listed and here is the website.

http://www.johnlynchfoundation.org/newsdetails.asp?NewsID=31

Wow...look at all the programs he has going. Nice work John!



I'm actually on the phone with them now...

[Mile High Shack]

I'll kick in a little scratch if we can legitamately do something like this

[Meck77]

The team won't touch this with a 10 foot poll. I'll make the media contacts and spread the word via the boards. I guess we just need clearance from Taco and we need a pay pal account.

I highly doubt that when we collect the money would go towards the fine but there is no reason we couldn't send it straight to the Lynch Foundation.

Maybe there is a pay pal already there?

[Meck77]

I'm actually on the phone with them now...


Sweet!

[shakenbake]

I will pony up some cash. I was gonna fly to indy for the game but I cant make it now so I have some extra laying around I would be more than happy to donate to Lynch's hit fund

[Taco John]

Ok Baja...I'll hit up the freaks and ask Damsel to hit the Broncos board. We have quiet a few media contacts that we met along the way this year. Each and every one of the names listed belows got an Orange Force One business card that has a link to the OrangeMane on it.

Scott Hastings-KOA Radio
Roach-Koa Radio
Steve Gottsagen-7 news Sportscaster
Chris Tanaka-Fox 31 Sports Producer
Tim Lewis-Espn Radio


We have all their contact info and they have the Manes. It wouldnt' surprise me if some of these guys lurk around here. We met more of these guys but this is more than enough to get the word out that the Broncos fans think this Lynch deal is bogus.

Before we get too far into this though we may want to bounce this off of Taco.

Taco you around? You cool with the Orangemane raising some hell?


I think it's a wonderful show of support The problem is, John Lynch is a multi-million dollar guy, and right now, there are hundreds of thousands of people who have lost their homes and family members to that wave on the other side of the world. There is no way John could accept that money from us.

However, his very worthy foundation could.

I just got off the phone with his foundation, and we are going to work out something and use this as an opportunity to show John we support him, and raise awareness for his foundation.

John's wife is being consulted right now by the foundation, and it's sure that John will know that you all are behind him. I should receive a call within the hour, and we'll get this thing figured out as to who we can send our donations to.

[baja]

Yes Meck this collection is more a statement of how we fans feel about John Lynch and the wrongness of the fine assessed against that great hit in the Colts game. I think we all understand the money will never see John but we will have made our feeling clear to a great many people and this will be worth while not to mention a charity of John's choice will benefit

[Meck77]

I think it's a wonderful show of support The problem is, John Lynch is a multi-million dollar guy, and right now, there are hundreds of thousands of people who have lost their homes and family members to that wave on the other side of the world. There is no way John could accept that money from us.

However, his very worthy foundation could.

I just got off the phone with his foundation, and we are going to work out something and use this as an opportunity to show John we support him, and raise awareness for his foundation.

John's wife is being consulted right now by the foundation, and it's sure that John will know that you all are behind him. I should receive a call within the hour, and we'll get this thing figured out as to who we can send our donations to.

Right on.

[Cosmo]

Yeah, I dont mind that its not used for the fine, but it would be cool if it was mentioned that fans donated X amount of money in response to the fine given to John Lynch, which will be used for X purpose.

[No1BroncoFan]

One of the mods needs to make this sticky if we're really gonna make it work.

Ben

[Meck77]

ok I posted a basic thread of what's going on at the freaks board. I think if we are going to try and gather support from all Broncos fans across the net than we simply make this on behalf of Broncos fans from the mane, the freaks, and the Broncos board etc not just the Mane. After all the money that will be raised will go to a good cause and the more funds raised the more help his foundation can offer.

There is something like 15,000 members at the Broncos board. That's alot of people that can really make a difference along with us.

[baja]

I posted a link to this thread on the DPO

[winstoncup bronco]

I'm in. Just tell me when and where.

[ClevelandBronco]

I'm IN. Just tell me where to send the dough.

Each one of us who contributes to Mr. Lynch's foundation in response to the league's shortsightedness should send an e-mail to the NFL letting them know what we've done and exactly why we’ve done it. Goddamn two-faced, candy-assed, pussified pukes.

[REB]

Sounds good to me.

REB

1-2-3-BRONCOS!!!!!!!

[Taco John]

Ok.

To donate to the John Lynch Foundation by credit card please call 1-866-JLF-4747 (866-553-4747)

To send a check, please mail it to:

John Lynch Foundation
PO Box 172247
Tampa, FL 33672


They don't have a Pay Pal account, but I've asked if she would set one up for the foundation, as I know there are a lot of Pay Pal dollars sitting in accounts that people would gladly send as well. I'll let you know as soon as I know on that one.

I'm told that Linda Lynch said that they were very flattered by the support.

[Taco John]

Also, if you want to send John a note of support along with your donation, you can do it here:

http://www.johnlynchfoundation.org/contact.asp

[winstoncup bronco]

If we call, should we mention the mane?

[BlueDamsel]

It's on the Broncos board now...

http://216.58.161.132/forums/showthread.php?p=408039#post408039

[baja]

I would hope this could be a separate fund clearly ear marked that it is in support of John's innocence relative to the fine and character assassination perpetrated on him by the NFL.

[Sassy]

Is there a way we can keep track of what the total donation to his foundation would be?

[Spider]

If we call, should we mention the mane?
why not ?

[Meck77]

Taco do you want people to do it individually or do you want to gather the funds and send it in as a group with all our messages at once?

I'm thinking it might be more effective to gather the donations for let's say til Friday and then send them off at once. That way that could give us some time on the ground here to contact KOA radio and the rest of the media here to let them know that the Broncos fans are not happy with this situation.

Just my 2 cents.

[winstoncup bronco]

why not ?

I just want to make sure the site gets recognized. I don't know if TJ wants this to be an orangemane thing or not.

[Sassy]

Taco do you want people to do it individually or do you want to gather the funds and send it in as a group with all our messages at once?
I like this idea better...than the foundation knows EXACTLY where the money came from.

Then we should tell the Media :devil:

[McDortoh]

Taco do you want people to do it individually or do you want to gather the funds and send it in as a group with all our messages at once?

Gathering up one lump sum would be much better then send it to the foundation.

[Sassy]

Taco do you want people to do it individually or do you want to gather the funds and send it in as a group with all our messages at once?

I'm thinking it might be more effective to gather the donations for let's say til Friday and then send them off at once. That way that could give us some time on the ground here to contact KOA radio and the rest of the media here to let them know that the Broncos fans are not happy with this situation.

Just my 2 cents.
This could fire up the team for the game, too ;D

[Taco John]

Also, another note... If you get the voicemail, keep trying... It's a nice lady named Maggie on the other end, and she can only take one of you at a time... I'm praying she gets paypal...

[baja]

Taco do you want people to do it individually or do you want to gather the funds and send it in as a group with all our messages at once?

I'm thinking it might be more effective to gather the donations for let's say til Friday and then send them off at once. That way that could give us some time on the ground here to contact KOA radio and the rest of the media here to let them know that the Broncos fans are not happy with this situation.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree, it is important this outpouring is recognized as support of John's ill treatment by the NFL and the way to do that is collectively.

[Meck77]

Ok KOA has been notified with all of the details.

[shakenbake]

Taco do you want people to do it individually or do you want to gather the funds and send it in as a group with all our messages at once?

I'm thinking it might be more effective to gather the donations for let's say til Friday and then send them off at once. That way that could give us some time on the ground here to contact KOA radio and the rest of the media here to let them know that the Broncos fans are not happy with this situation.

Just my 2 cents.

this is a great idea....Im sure one of the mods has a pay pal account. and then that person can just give the lump sum

[Taco John]

I think it would be best if The John Lynch Foundation collected the money directly, and it be made clear that The Orange Mane is spearheading the effort. The foundation and the Lynchs know that it all started here. I've already been in contact with them, and they are well aware. It would just be best to eliminate the middle man. I don't want there to be any lingering questions about where the money is going on this end.

Mention the Orange Mane when you call in, and let them know "The Orange Mane and Broncos Fans support John Lynch," if you'd like.

The Orange Mane (me) *will* be sending a donation of $100 in the name of the site. I encourage everyone to give what they can. Every penny adds up, and every call they get, no matter how small the donation, is going to go a long way toward showing John our love and support while helping a great cause.

Don't worry Maniacs... If this gets pulled off, we'll get our nod for the legwork. But right now, the focus should be on John Lynch and his foundation. Start dialing those dollars. Send links to people to the front page, where I've got the information posted. Lets help John's foundation out!

[-Slap-]

I think it would be best if The John Lynch Foundation collected the money directly, and it be made clear that The Orange Mane is spearheading the effort. The foundation and the Lynchs know that it all started here. I've already been in contact with them, and they are well aware. It would just be best to eliminate the middle man. I don't want there to be any lingering questions about where the money is going on this end.

Mention the Orange Mane when you call in, and let them know "The Orange Mane and Broncos Fans support John Lynch," if you'd like.

The Orange Mane (me) *will* be sending a donation of $100 in the name of the site. I encourage everyone to give what they can. Every penny adds up, and every call they get, no matter how small the donation, is going to go a long way toward showing John our love and support.

Don't worry Maniacs... If this gets pulled off, we'll get our nod for the legwork. But right now, the focus should be on John Lynch and his foundation. Start dialing those dollars. Send links to people to the front page, where I've got the information posted. Lets help John's foundation out!

I'm in and I agree with TJ. Lets worry about recognition later. We can help a good cause and also show our support for a class individual at the same time.

Any word on the PayPal account? I would prefer to pay that way if possible.

[Meck77]

Damsel is trying to get thru but the # is busy. I guess there might be a Broncos fan or two out there trying to get in...lol

[Taco John]

Any word on the PayPal account? I would prefer to pay that way if possible.


Same here... Nothing yet. I got the feeling Maggie is going to be on the phone for awhile too... Hopefully, they'll be convinced to sign up for a paypal account.

[TD30]

Count me in - How can you fine someone 75 g's when it was only a penalty after the refs concluded via instant replay that the receiver never controlled the ball. The NFL has gone overboard.

[REB]

One step closer to flag football man. If the NFL keeps going this way a new league will arise that will actually be able to challenge cuz PRO FOOTBALL FANS are getting sick of the pansie a$$ rules. Protect the college kids. Let the big boys play. If colt players don't like real football they should have chosen baseball or ice skating or polo or something.

REB

1-2-3-BRONCOS!!!!!!!

[FADERPROOF]

Times like these, I wish I had money to spend.

This is a great idea guys for a great player and good person, keep it up!

[BlueDamsel]

Hey fellas,
Just an FYI - No need to stop with just Broncos fans...

Every team out there has had atleast one player get fined for a big hit or a celebration dance or whatever...So fans from other teams can relate. If you belong to a board that has to do with football, but not necessarily JUST the Broncos, link them into this...Even if they don't want to donate to the Lynch Foundation, there's gotta be one player who's been fined unfairly on other teams as well...

Heck, if they don't want to donate to the Lynch Foundation, how about the Pat Tillman foundation?......

[El Guapo]

I usually post over at the Broncos Boards, but I just wanted to let you all know that Im sending some cash over too.

(and i need to start hangin out here more. :D )

[REB]

Just an FYI - No need to stop with just Broncos fans...

Exactly! Every Pro Football fan should be sick of these pansie a$$ calls. You see someone barely touch a QB and get a flag. You see a Punter get grazed on the toe as the punt gets blocked, get a flag. What would a true football fan like to see on a weekly bases. PRO Football players playing the game they signed up for and get paid millions for. Professional Football. Those two words should mean something.

Don't get me wrong. I don't want to see "intentional" spearing or anything else that would ruin someone but c'mon! Give us a break! JMHO Let the NON-GIRLY MEN PLAY!

REB

1-2-3-BRONCOS!!!!!!!

[Taco John]

If you have a hard time getting in, here's an idea...

Send a message using their form:
http://www.johnlynchfoundation.org/contact.asp

Let them know that you'd like to make a donation (ie. Leave a Pledge) to the foundation and leave your contact information and LET THEM KNOW YOUR TIMEZONE. His foundation is currently based in Tampa and is in transition as they start to gear up toward Denver activities. They are in Tampa right now, so it's important that you let them know when they can call you (and of course, what number), or where they can send an envelope to.

Here's a sample pledge that you can cut and paste into the contact form:

<---Sample Pledge

Hello,

I saw the thread on The Orange Mane, and I would like to join the effort to show support for John Lynch.

I would like to pledge $X.XX dollars to the John Lynch Foundation as a show of love and respect for John, and aid the Foundation's efforts.

Please call me to collect by credit card at XXX-XXX-XXXX. I am in the XXXXX Timezone, so please don't call until after X:00am in that timezone.

Alternately, you can send an envelope to collect the pledge at the following address:

Your Name
Address
City, State, Zip

With much love and respect,



---Sample Pledge--->

[Darkhawk24]

Wow guys this is a great idea! Count me in for sure!

[Bronco_Beerslug]

If you have a hard time getting in, here's an idea...

Send a message using their form:
http://www.johnlynchfoundation.org/contact.asp

Let them know that you'd like to make a donation (ie. Leave a Pledge) to the foundation and leave your contact information and LET THEM KNOW YOUR TIMEZONE. His foundation is currently based in Tampa and is in transition as they start to gear up toward Denver activities. They are in Tampa right now, so it's important that you let them know when they can call you (and of course, what number), or where they can send an envelope to.

Here's a sample pledge that you can cut and paste into the contact form:
I'm all for this but I wouldn't send my CC# unless it was over an encrypted page (secure server).

[bucking fronco]

John Lynch likes to go heads up. Why not just put your money on an Indy heads up, then donate the proceeds.

[Taco John]

I'm all for this but I wouldn't send my CC# unless it was over an encrypted page (secure server).



Exactly... I wouldn't either... I wouldn't have a problem giving it over the phone to them though...

I do wish that they'd get pay pal...

[bendog]

His foundation is great, but like someone else said, there is so much misery, esp now, that for this to really be of benefit it has to be somehow tied to letting the league know that bronco fans are putting up the jack to go to Lynch's foundation because the League is taking money from Lynch's resources. That is, I'm sure his foundation is great and all, but it wouldn't necessarily be my first choice for giving a few bucks to charity.

[Blueflame]

This is a great idea... Paypal is a more attractive option for me as well, however... hopefully, they'll get it set up so it's a possibility.

[Meck77]

The phone lines are opened up now. Damsel is giving them info on how to set up a pay pal right now. They also have John Lynch foundation shirts for $15.00 bucks they'll send you. All the proceeds from the shirts go towards one of his programs.

They said the site isn't updated yet but they have 3 Denver based programs the money will go to if you want to let them know that's where you want the funds to go.

[BlueDamsel]

The three Denver Programs that they already have in place:

Star of the Month (same concept as the TB Star-of-the-Month)

Christmas Party - I believe she said that this is for the Boys & Girls clubs...

and

Lynch's Leaders - Also the boys & girls clubs. They took a bunch of the kids in the program to 3 of the games this year & let them watch from a suite...

She also says she feels bad/embarassed that their site hasn't been updated fully to Denver yet, but that they just changed hosts/servers...We know all about Server changes around here, now don't we? :) So bear with them for now & they'll get the changes made soon enough! :)

[Mile High Shack]

The phone lines are opened up now. Damsel is giving them info on how to set up a pay pal right now. They also have John Lynch foundation shirts for $15.00 bucks they'll send you. All the proceeds from the shirts go towards one of his programs.

They said the site isn't updated yet but they have 3 Denver based programs the money will go to if you want to let them know that's where you want the funds to go.

so if you donate 15 bones they give you a tshirt?

sweet

[Meck77]

so if you donate 15 bones they give you a tshirt?

sweet


Yep. They are running low on larges I think she said but they have extra larges available.

http://www.johnlynchfoundation.org/eventdetails.asp?CalendarID=36

[Taco John]

so if you donate 15 bones they give you a tshirt?

sweet



I don't think that's it... That's a seperate deal that probably shouldn't be confused. Ie. There are shirts available, and they cost $15.00.

If you want to buy a shirt, you can get one for $15 bucks. It sounds like the money will go toward their local youth campaigns. I think to get that, you'll have to ask to buy a shirt. I don't think it's automatic.

[Meck77]

Right Taco. I guess I didn't make that clear. They don't just offer them up automatically. I asked for one and she said she would send one.

[Mile High Shack]

Right Taco. I guess I didn't make that clear. They don't just offer them up automatically. I asked for one and she said she would send one.

so to me, it would make sense if your going to pony up some dough, spend an extra 5 bucks to get a tshirt if you ask for one.......

not to say you should get something for doing something good...but ya know, being america and all

[McDortoh]

so to me, it would make sense if your going to pony up some dough, spend an extra 5 bucks to get a tshirt if you ask for one.......

not to say you should get something for doing something good...but ya know, being america and all

LOL "being america and all" Ha! Ha!

[BlueDamsel]

We overlooked a large group of fans that will probably help - the Buccs fans...

I just registered at their site & started a thread there...

[Crushaholic]

We overlooked a large group of fans that will probably help - the Buccs fans...

I just registered at their site & started a thread there...

Good point. I've heard that he's still well-respected among Bucs fans and I'm sure they'll chip in for this effort.

[BlueDamsel]

Exactly...I was reminded by the fact that they still have all their TB stuff up on their site & my exboyfriend (TB fan) sent me a message, and I remembered how upset he was that they were losing Lynch to us...

[McDortoh]

Good point. I've heard that he's still well-respected among Bucs fans and I'm sure they'll chip in for this effort.

I actually ran into a Buc fan at the opening game against the chefs this year. He was pissed they let Lynch go. Could not say enough good things about him.

[Smilin Assassin]

Count me in.

I just sent an e-mail to the site using a similiar outline as that of TJ's.

There's so many reasons to do this, it's a no-brainer.

-Whether you're doing it just because you're upset at the NFL for tarnishing the image of a class individual such as John.

-Because you're upset at the NFL for taking away from the game we love.

-Just showing John that we DO infact support him and the physical nature he brings to the game.

-and it supports a very good cause put forward by the John Lynch Foundation.

Thanks to all those who provided information and motive to do this. Just another great perk to being a member of the greatest Broncos fan site on the net.

[Pezman]

Classiest board on the net comes through... You people make me proud to be a Broncos fan. Sending some funds to a worthwhile charity is very nice!

[DivineLegion]

Im poor but I get payed tommarow and am willing to give 20

Can someone PM me and let me know what all to do...

[REB]

Classiest board on the net comes through... You people make me proud to be a Broncos fan. Sending some funds to a worthwhile charity is very nice!

Yep! Very Cool! and BTW... The Broncos will win this game!!!!!!! I would bet 100.00 that we win!

REB

1-2-3-BRONCOS!!!!!!!

[Meck77]

The info is on an early post on this thread. You can pay via or cc or send a check to the address he posted.

BTW everybody.......John Lynch is going to be on KOA pretty soon. If you want to call in and voice your opinion call...

303-713-8585

You can sign to listen to the live broadcast for free at their website.

http://www.850koa.com/listen/index.html

[Tom G]

I'm in. Great idea.

Mock just posted this info on KFFL so I suspect there will be other boards kicking in.

[McDortoh]

I'm in. Great idea.

Mock just posted this info on KFFL so I suspect there will be other boards kicking in.

Mock just post it that should get him time off sentece for good behaviour ;D

Also this should bring some good karma to the Broncos this weekend.
Denver 42 Colts 17 ;D

[orange 4 life]

all i know is that im REALLY sick of the hypocrisy and wussification of the nfl.

its friggin sickening.

theyre actually saying that if clark had caught the ball, there's no penalty and no fine.
because he bobbled it, its a penalty AND a 75k fine?

phukk you nfl.

thats the most idiotic thing i think ive ever heard in sports.

worse is that the media morons actually go along with it.
why?
because most of those losers have never actually PLAYED sports.

so basically the nfl's "message" is that a safety is supposed to use his wondertwin superpowers to definatively know if the pass is caught before hitting the player?

what a joke.

it was a perfectly legal and mechanically sound tackle.

this "defenseless receiver" bullsh!t needs to stop...NOW.
seems to me there arent any less injuries now as there were back when they actually played football instead of pansyball, so whats the point of all this?

let them play.

jake

[Rock Chalk]

Its not going to stop. Get used to it.

[Sassy]

It sounds like Lynch will be on KOA in a few minutes...

[McDortoh]

Its not going to stop. Get used to it.

Sadly you are correct.......well Im not sad that YOU are correct but sad that you are correct. ;D

[El Guapo]

Just was watching NFL LIVE on ESPN and they did a reel on the best plays of the year. Guess what? They showed ALL of lynch's hits one right after the other, I think it was 6 different hits in all. The latest one of course was included...

[Ratboy]

They are mentioning us on KOA.

Woo ;)

[Taco John]

That was awesome... Hopefully there will be a lot of fans who look up his foundation and join in... It would be a great to see the fanbase react.

[BlueDamsel]

Yep, the emails must have gone through...

Thanks to Scott & Dave for mentioning this - They brought up both the orangemane, this thread/fund it's self, and the John Lynch Foundation's website.

It's probably not a coincidence that Lynch came on the radio within seconds - His wife is well aware of what we're trying to do.

[Northman]

I got 50 bucks for my boy John.

[BlueDamsel]

BTW - the thread on the buccs forum:

http://bbs.buccaneers.com/showthread.php?t=85909

Apparantly they missed the hit too...

[Sassy]

"Most Importantly, I just have to play my game"...

[Meck77]

Right on Orangemane! Thanks Scott and Dave!

[Spider]

Yep. They are running low on larges I think she said but they have extra larges available.

http://www.johnlynchfoundation.org/eventdetails.asp?CalendarID=36
I need my shirt in a medium ....... you know being so Slender like I am and all ;D

[Sassy]

Rod's going to be on too!

[Northman]

Damn, i keep getting that damn answer machine. ive tried like 6 or 7 times now. ugh!~

[Meck77]

It took me forever to get thru AZ. The foundation HQ is in Tampa though. They are probably closed for the day?

It sounded like they would have a pay pal set up pretty soon based on the conversation Damsel had with them.

[BlueDamsel]

Damn, i keep getting that damn answer machine. ive tried like 6 or 7 times now. ugh!~

The other thought is to send them the email, as suggested by taco a page or two back...

I tried for probably 45 minutes before giving up for a bit, went to lunch came back & tried again & got through...

[Northman]

It took me forever to get thru AZ. The foundation HQ is in Tampa though. They are probably closed for the day?

It sounded like they would have a pay pal set up pretty soon based on the conversation Damsel had with them.


Oh! duh. im on the east coast so yea, they are probably done at fricking 7:00pm at night. LOL

my stupidity. jesus.

[Sir Mawn]

So no paypal still? kinda hard to reach the foundation from Mexico....

[BlueDamsel]

They're working on it...
She said she'd call back to give me the email address later...

[FADERPROOF]

It had to happen this week... if I had any money extra I would definetely donate and hope people know it, feel like a bum for being out of work currently(first week been on plant shutdown) so I cant afford any money until the plant opens up again(or until I get another job in the meantime.)

But keep up the good work Bronco fans, the work you do will hopefully go a long way in raising awareness to the NFL and their tyrant bull****.

[Crushaholic]

It had to happen this week... if I had any money extra I would definetely donate and hope people know it, feel like a bum for being out of work currently(first week been on plant shutdown) so I cant afford any money until the plant opens up again(or until I get another job in the meantime.)

But keep up the good work Bronco fans, the work you do will hopefully go a long way in raising awareness to the NFL and their tyrant bull****.

It's OK. Most of us go through periods of no money. :)

[BigBad Bronco Fan]

All I have to say is this. I don't know if anyone else has talked on this topic or not but I am pissed at the letter that was sent. "You have had four of these penaltys in your career."

So? He's also played 200 some odd games. That's pretty amazing that he hasn't had more if you ask me.

[REB]

I Love the OM! Look at what we've done. Peeps from oter places coming and getting invovled in real Football. Ya gotta lovit

REB

1-2-3-BRONCOS!!!!!!!

[El Guapo]

Is there a transcript or can someone give a short synopsis of what was said on KOA. Thanks!!

[Taco John]

Here is the letter that was sent to the League office by Lynch's representative. With thanks to the DPO (http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~86~2639528,00.html).

Dear Mr. Washington
Text in a letter sent from attorney Harvey Steinberg to Gene Washington on behalf of Denver Broncos safety John Lynch:

Dear Mr. Washington:

Please be advised that this office represents the interests of Mr. John Lynch with regard to your letter dated January 3, 2005. This letter should serve as our formal request, pursuant to Article XI of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, that this matter be set for a timely appeal before the Commissioner or his designee.

I am very concerned with the tenor of your letter to John with regard to this matter. Specifically, on prior occasions with regard to John and other players I have represented, the transmittal letter imposing the proposed sanctions merely contains a factual rendition of the allegations and the methodology for seeking an appeal. This letter is remarkably different. At paragraph 4 of your letter, in bold type you write the following, "But be reminded that future infractions of the type you have committed can lead to increased disciplinary action, up to and including suspension. Additionally, we will remind the officiating crew in this week's Broncos' game that you can be ejected from a game if they determine such action is warranted."

The inclusion of this language can only be perceived as an attempt to influence and affect John's play during the game. Prior to the final appeal, at which we believe we will prevail, there has not been a final determination as to whether or not John in fact violated any league rule and should be subjected to a fine. By including this language, you have demeaned the appellate process and have suggested that the official who was in the same position that John was prior to the tackle, viewed John's tackle as legal and appropriate.

It was only after several minutes of reviewing the videotape of this situation that it was ruled that no catch had been made. In fact, the referee who viewed the videotape personally advised Mr. Lynch that he could not imagine the Mr. Lynch would be fined since it took him several minutes of review to determine whether or not the catch had been made. If, as the referee initially determined, there was a catch and run by the receiver, John and his head coach have been informed that the tackle by John would have been both appropriate and within the NFL Rules.

The procedurally inconsistent inclusion of threatening language will possible affect John's game performance during the upcoming playoff game. This is totally inappropriate conduct for any league official. Of even more concern is your statement that you intend to have personal contact with the game officials prior to the game to advise them to keep an eye out for John. We are concerned that this may influence the outcome of this contest.

Obviously, John is aware of the rules and has tremendous respect for this game and his role. We assume the game officials are also aware of the rules. Your perceived need to remind them of the rules can only be interpreted by them as a message from you as a representative of the league to single John out for special attention. In reviewing the Collective Bargaining Agreement, we are well aware of the Commissioner's rights concerning the imposition of a fine. However, there is nothing contained within that agreement that would allow for you to attempt to threaten and intimidate a player by the language contained in your letter. John has gained a reputation amongst his peers as a tough but clean and legal player. We believe that assertion would be echoed not only by Competition Committee Chairman Richard McKay, but also Indianapolis Head Coach Tony Dungy, among others. Your letter besmirches that reputation inappropriately.

As a result, we fear that the integrity of this contest will be impacted adversely here by the influence on the impartiality of the officiating crew. To ensure that this does not take place, we are demanding a retraction of the above noted objectionable language. If, in fact, you or your representatives have already had contact with the officials, we demand to know who made that contact and exactly what was said to the officiating crew. Anything less jeopardizes the fairness of the officiating crew and the integrity of the contest.

I await your response to this correspondence.

[Taco John]

To donate to the John Lynch Foundation by credit card please call 1-866-JLF-4747 (866-553-4747)

To send a check, please mail it to:

John Lynch Foundation
PO Box 172247
Tampa, FL 33672

[Taco John]

If you have a hard time getting in, here's an idea...

Send a message using their form:
http://www.johnlynchfoundation.org/contact.asp

Let them know that you'd like to make a donation (ie. Leave a Pledge) to the foundation and leave your contact information and LET THEM KNOW YOUR TIMEZONE. His foundation is currently based in Tampa and is in transition as they start to gear up toward Denver activities. They are in Tampa right now, so it's important that you let them know when they can call you (and of course, what number), or where they can send an envelope to.

Here's a sample pledge that you can cut and paste into the contact form:

<---Sample Pledge

Hello,

I saw the thread on The Orange Mane, and I would like to join the effort to show support for John Lynch.

I would like to pledge $X.XX dollars to the John Lynch Foundation as a show of love and respect for John, and aid the Foundation's efforts.

Please call me to collect by credit card at XXX-XXX-XXXX. I am in the XXXXX Timezone, and can be reached between Xam-Xpm in this timezone.

Alternately, you can send an envelope to collect the pledge at the following address:

Your Name
Address
City, State, Zip

With much love and respect,



---Sample Pledge--->

[wabbit]

What a remarkable effort folks

John's charities on the whole have tiny admin budgets (mostly volunteers), so the $$$ DO get to the people & children intended

I've added a few dollars through a third party...btw thanx-you get the shirt

The fact that the NFL financially exploits the compilation of 'extreme' hits every year simply paints a big fat red face on it's hypocritical practices

Go get 'em John

[crazyhorse]

What a remarkable effort folks

John's charities on the whole have tiny admin budgets (mostly volunteers), so the $$$ DO get to the people & children intended

I've added a few dollars through a third party...btw thanx-you get the shirt

The fact that the NFL financially exploits the compilation of 'extreme' hits every year simply paints a big fat red face on it's hypocritical practices

Go get 'em John

Perhaps John should spend less money on cheap shots, and more money on the kids. I would be willing to bet his foundation could use the amazing amount of money he has wasted.

As pertaining to the letter TJ posted, it would appear that niether John or his representative appreciate the fact that he was not suspended. He outlines that John has been singled out, but does not mention that John would have been suspended had this not been a playoff game. Some might recognize that as a concession giving the team a better opportunity to compete reguardless of Lynch' behavior on the field. Warning the officials to watch Johns behavior on the field is a condition on him being able to play. It's not to hold the Broncos team hostage or effect the outcome of thegame. It is an effort not to penalize a team for what one person has done.

It doesn't surprize me that Lynch and his rep. are using a concession as an angle for personal gain. Maybe the league should have gone with thier 1st instinct and just suspended him. It would have considerably shortened this letter, and perhaps John would be forced to reflect on his play and take responsibility for it.

The end result will be that instead of playing by the same rules as everyone else and spending 100 grand on his foundation, he will take cheap shots and let his fans pick up the tab. All the while pissing and moaning that he is being picked on.

What a stud!

[Mile High Shack]

Perhaps John should spend less money on cheap shots, and more money on the kids. I would be willing to bet his foundation could use the amazing amount of money he has wasted.

As pertaining to the letter TJ posted, it would appear that niether John or his representative appreciate the fact that he was not suspended. He outlines that John has been singled out, but does not mention that John would have been suspended had this not been a playoff game. Some might recognize that as a concession giving the team a better opportunity to compete reguardless of Lynch' behavior on the field. Warning the officials to watch Johns behavior on the field is a condition on him being able to play. It's not to hold the Broncos team hostage or effect the outcome of thegame. It is an effort not to penalize a team for what one person has done.

It doesn't surprize me that Lynch and his rep. are using a concession as an angle for personal gain. Maybe the league should have gone with thier 1st instinct and just suspended him. It would have considerably shortened this letter, and perhaps John would be forced to reflect on his play and take responsibility for it.

The end result will be that instead of playing by the same rules as everyone else and spending 100 grand on his foundation, he will take cheap shots and let his fans pick up the tab. All the while pissing and moaning that he is being picked on.

What a stud!

why is this idiot still on this board when he hacks on a charity effort

screw this butthole

[Darkhawk24]

No doubt out of all threads he picks this one to post his bull crap in. You are one classy guy Crazy Horse. :unamused:

[crazyhorse]

why is this idiot still on this board when he hacks on a charity effort



screw this butthole


Hold on a minute. I am all for charity. I am glad to see money going for a good cause. Reguardless of the motivation. I hope they make a million bucks over the deal.

But to take the moral high ground on this situation is ridiculous on your part. I'd like to take this opportunity to ask you, how much exactly did you give to Lynch' charity before "the hit"? Your sudden charitable feelings are fueled because you suddenly want to piss on the league. Not because you have now become concerned for the kids. It is merely to justify your position on a football fine.

But in the end, it's all good.

I hope Lynch matches what Bronco fans collect. It could turn a negative situation into a true possitive.

Good luck in your efforts.

[bronco militia]

I heard the OM's plug on the sports zoo yesterday...good work, people

[Mile High Shack]

Hold on a minute. I am all for charity. I am glad to see money going for a good cause. Reguardless of the motivation. I hope they make a million bucks over the deal.

But to take the moral high ground on this situation is ridiculous on your part. I'd like to take this opportunity to ask you, how much exactly did you give to Lynch' charity before "the hit"? Your sudden charitable feelings are fueled because you suddenly want to piss on the league. Not because you have now become concerned for the kids. It is merely to justify your position on a football fine.

But in the end, it's all good.

I hope Lynch matches what Bronco fans collect. It could turn a negative situation into a true possitive.

Good luck in your efforts.

quick reply

screw you

[orange 4 life]

Perhaps John should spend less money on cheap shots, and more money on the kids. I would be willing to bet his foundation could use the amazing amount of money he has wasted.

As pertaining to the letter TJ posted, it would appear that niether John or his representative appreciate the fact that he was not suspended. He outlines that John has been singled out, but does not mention that John would have been suspended had this not been a playoff game. Some might recognize that as a concession giving the team a better opportunity to compete reguardless of Lynch' behavior on the field. Warning the officials to watch Johns behavior on the field is a condition on him being able to play. It's not to hold the Broncos team hostage or effect the outcome of thegame. It is an effort not to penalize a team for what one person has done.

It doesn't surprize me that Lynch and his rep. are using a concession as an angle for personal gain. Maybe the league should have gone with thier 1st instinct and just suspended him. It would have considerably shortened this letter, and perhaps John would be forced to reflect on his play and take responsibility for it.

The end result will be that instead of playing by the same rules as everyone else and spending 100 grand on his foundation, he will take cheap shots and let his fans pick up the tab. All the while pissing and moaning that he is being picked on.

What a stud!

are you a girl?

take resposibility for his play?
are you serious?

okay, so what exactly was he supposed to do horse? use the force to magically KNOW if the receiver had possession?
use his wondertwin powers?

if that ball hadnt been bobbled, it was a legal hit. does that make sense to you?
its just another example of how the nfl is becoming a league for women.

im all for holding players accountable, but this is ludicrous.

the game happens at full speed, and unless you know something we all dont, its physically impossible for a player going full speed to determine possession (or lack of) in the blink of an eye.

its hypocrisy on the part of the nfl. plain and simple.
that hit is legal for KIDS in college, and it should be legal in the supposed mens league also.

jake

[OrangeCrushNJ]

I'm in for $25.00

Nice work!!

[Mtbrncofn]

are you a girl?


jake


Yikes! No need to besmirch us girls' names in the trashing of crazywhore!

This is one girl that would love to see a helluva lot more hits like that one. :thumbs:

[Mtbrncofn]

Oh and I am definitely in on this one too. I would love to do it via PayPal though if they are going to get that up and running.

[BlueDamsel]

Yikes! No need to besmirch us girls' names in the trashing of crazywhore!

This is one girl that would love to see a helluva lot more hits like that one. :thumbs:

Exactly! :)

C'mon Jake, don't associate him/it with the likes of us! :P

[McDortoh]

Perhaps John should spend less money on cheap shots, and more money on the kids. I would be willing to bet his foundation could use the amazing amount of money he has wasted.

As pertaining to the letter TJ posted, it would appear that niether John or his representative appreciate the fact that he was not suspended. He outlines that John has been singled out, but does not mention that John would have been suspended had this not been a playoff game. Some might recognize that as a concession giving the team a better opportunity to compete reguardless of Lynch' behavior on the field. Warning the officials to watch Johns behavior on the field is a condition on him being able to play. It's not to hold the Broncos team hostage or effect the outcome of thegame. It is an effort not to penalize a team for what one person has done.

It doesn't surprize me that Lynch and his rep. are using a concession as an angle for personal gain. Maybe the league should have gone with thier 1st instinct and just suspended him. It would have considerably shortened this letter, and perhaps John would be forced to reflect on his play and take responsibility for it.

The end result will be that instead of playing by the same rules as everyone else and spending 100 grand on his foundation, he will take cheap shots and let his fans pick up the tab. All the while pissing and moaning that he is being picked on.

What a stud!

Just take note that he replyed to Wabbits post. See Wabbit has been know to make lazyhorse look like an idiot on many occassions. Thats what his post is really all about just trying to get at wabbit. Anywho lazyhorse your an idiot enjoy the offseason Im sure Carl and dicky will enjoy their vacation during the upcomeing FA period.

[orange 4 life]

Yikes! No need to besmirch us girls' names in the trashing of crazywhore!

This is one girl that would love to see a helluva lot more hits like that one. :thumbs:

damn.

alright. good point. my bad.

apologies to all the wonderful ladies out there.
our ladies here know more about football than all of these losers im talking about combined.
sorry gals. it just slipped!!

jake

[Meck77]

I'd like to make the suggestion that we shouldn't lose the focus of this thread because a chief fan has nothing better to do than to get a rise out of people.

Perhaps a mod could cut out CrazyHorse's post and the rest of the thread following so the integrity of the original thread stays on track and the members could respond to the idiot without this thread becoming a CrazyHorse thread?

[McDortoh]

I'd like to make the suggestion that we shouldn't lose the focus of this thread because a chief fan has nothing better to do than to get a rise out of people.

Perhaps a mod could cut out CrazyHorse's post and the rest of the thread following so the integrity of the original thread stays on track and the members could respond to the idiot without this thread becoming a CrazyHorse thread?

Your right Meck my bad ;D

[Taco John]

Hold on a minute. I am all for charity. I am glad to see money going for a good cause. Reguardless of the motivation. I hope they make a million bucks over the deal.

But to take the moral high ground on this situation is ridiculous on your part. I'd like to take this opportunity to ask you, how much exactly did you give to Lynch' charity before "the hit"? Your sudden charitable feelings are fueled because you suddenly want to piss on the league. Not because you have now become concerned for the kids. It is merely to justify your position on a football fine.

But in the end, it's all good.

I hope Lynch matches what Bronco fans collect. It could turn a negative situation into a true possitive.

Good luck in your efforts.



Take it to another thread. I've already dropped a Colt fan who wanted to cme and disparage our effort to show our guy support. As far as I'm concerned, this is about showing support, and nothing more. People can donate for their own motivations, in the end, good kids are going to get help and John's going to know we support him.

If you want to disparage the effort, take it to another thread. This is a thread about support.

[Tredici]

Hold on a minute. I am all for charity. I am glad to see money going for a good cause. Reguardless of the motivation. I hope they make a million bucks over the deal.

But to take the moral high ground on this situation is ridiculous on your part. I'd like to take this opportunity to ask you, how much exactly did you give to Lynch' charity before "the hit"? Your sudden charitable feelings are fueled because you suddenly want to piss on the league. Not because you have now become concerned for the kids. It is merely to justify your position on a football fine.

But in the end, it's all good.

I hope Lynch matches what Bronco fans collect. It could turn a negative situation into a true possitive.

Good luck in your efforts.


Actually all the money the NFL collects via fines on the players goes to NFL Charities. So every dollar Lynch has been fined has gone to a charitable source.

If it's a good enough method for the NFL it's a good enough method for the fans of the NFL and support of particular players.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Take it to another thread. I've already dropped a Colt fan who wanted to cme and disparage our effort to show our guy support. As far as I'm concerned, this is about showing support, and nothing more. People can donate for their own motivations, in the end, good kids are going to get help and John's going to know we support him.

If you want to disparage the effort, take it to another thread. This is a thread about support.
And the hammer has fallen!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://smilies.sofrayt.com/sae/knockout.gif

[Crushaholic]

Too few people (including me) give to charity on a regular basis. It's usually a response to a particular event. People are sending money in to the Red Cross and other charities involved with the tsunami relief effort. People sent money to help out the Florida region after the hurricanes. Saying that people should have done this earlier, while it may be true in theory, is just not human nature.

[TailgateNut]

Great Idea, I'm on it like flies on $%#^. Too bad we can't set up an eyewear fund for the officials.

[BlueDamsel]

Hmmm...
Well someone else has done their research as well:

http://216.58.161.132/forums/showthread.php?t=25472

Nfl Office Number (212-450-2000)
Call them and ask for the complaint office, trust me everyone that calls will be heard. A actual person answers and listens. I spoke to a gentleman and he agreed with what I had to say, he thinks the league will reverse the call, the gentleman also said they have had tons of calls from fans all around the country and not all of them were Bronco fans. MAKE YOUR VOICE BE HEARD !!!!! The league can't do this and it is against the players bargaining agreement so I believe with us the fans (actually the customers) and with Lynch's legal team we can help Denver win this short battle. Also I told the man that I will never buy liscienced gear from the NFL again, why should we as fans make them more wealthy when they are getting plenty of money through fining players for playing a game, especially when the guy had the ball in his hands and then he got hit, if you have the game on tape also look at Rod Smith who gets hit while the ball isn't even in his hands, but yet no penalty or fine. SCREW YOU WASHINGTON, TALGABUE, AND WHOEVER ELSE MAKES THESE CHOICES TO FINE PLAYERS WHEN RECIEVERS HAVE THE BALL IN THERE HANDS. Last time I checked we are playing football and if you can't handle the hits then get the heck out !!!!! GO BRONCOS and make the league mad this weekend with a victory, because you know what colors they will be wearing this weekend. Also thanks to DUECEOFCLUB for providing us with the number !!!!!

[winstoncup bronco]

I donated earlier today, and when I told the woman "The Orange Mane supports John Lynch" she said, "oh, you're one of THEM!" ;D

Guess our collective voice is being heard. :thumbsup:

[Meck77]

Hmmm...
Well someone else has done their research as well:

http://216.58.161.132/forums/showthread.php?t=25472


Yep that # is a good one. I just left a voice mail with public relations for a call back.

[Mtbrncofn]

So no Paypal thing up yet? Should we just go ahead and do it over the phone or are they actually going to get a PP account going?

[broncogary]

I'm in. When I called, the girl asked if I was from the Orange Mane, so apparently there's been a lot of callers.

[El Guapo]

NFL LIVE (ESPN) just did a quick thing saying how the league was extremely wrong to have pointed out the situation to the games refs. They also said this could be HUGE motivation for the Broncos as a whole and the entire team could come out hitting. Man, I sure hope so!

[Taco John]

If we don't come out with the intensity of a Super Bowl game, there's something wrong with this team...

At the very least, we *should* be able to walk away from this game very proud of our fellas...

[baja]

Hi John, I know sooner or later you will be reading this so I just wanted to thank you for choosing Denver as the team you wanted to play for. You are my favorite Bronco because you love the game of football and play the game as it was meant to be played. As least you got to play for 12 years before the league spoiled this great American game with over regulation. I suppose it is just a reflection of the nation as a whole, we are so over regulated. I miss the time when people were left to think for themselves. But I digress. I really admire what you stand for on the field, in the locker room and especially as a member of the community. God Bless you John Lynch, we are all the better for having had the privilege of witnessing your example of what it means to be a man.

[broncoblue]

I need paypal to dont fancy the check or ringing from uk.....



OH BOY WHAT A HIT IT TWAS
THO SIR JOHN .......SAME AGAIN ON SUNDAY ONLY HARDER :p

[phillyagain]

[Tredici]

phillyagain is a wise man of few words.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

phillyagain is a wise man of few words.
Don't get in much trouble that way. Valerie and Coltouthouser could learn something here.

[Tredici]

Hey TJ have you kept any type of count of OM contributions?

Just wondering.

[REB]

How quickly we forget...................nevernind

REB

1-2-3-BRONCOS!!!!!!!

[baja]

well atleast we only got one bad call yesterday and it was not hit related

[Meck77]

I ran into the Lynch's family before the game. They were sitting near us. I met John's wife and father. I told them I was with the Orangemane and they were very appreciate of the donations. She definetly knew about the Mane and said thanks to the people that donated.

Amazing what a little collective effort can do!

[Sassy]

Anyone know how much from the Mane was collected...
...any updates on the paypal account???

[Tom G]

I pledged $50 on the Lynch web site and said I'll send in a check. I'm telling the board in case somebody here is doing a tally. I'll wait one more day in case this board wants to do something as a group.

[crazyhorse]

No fines from the NFL.

No nudging from the fans.

No piss and vinegar.

Just T-Rich from the Kansas City Chiefs.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2005/02/10/chiefs_fb_tony_richardson_to_assist_tsunami_relief/

[Tredici]

So your point is what? The funding only has validation depending on it's motivation? How much have you donated Crazy? Why did you do it? We want to have a medal inscribed for you as well as the one we're having done for T-Rich.

[wisconsinhomer]

I'll pledge 1 million dollers

[crazyhorse]

So your point is what? The funding only has validation depending on it's motivation?

Not at all. I think it's a great thing reguardless the motivation. That doesn't mean however, that one cannot reflect on the vehicle that drives different people to do the things they do.

I am sure T-Rich will love his medal. You can give mine to charity to be auctioned off. :-* Please have the inscription read:

Always plays fair, and always gives of himself. A bigger "team guy" was never born. The most charming man to ever sh1t behind a pair of shoes.

[Tredici]

Not at all. I think it's a great thing reguardless the motivation. That doesn't mean however, that one cannot reflect on the vehicle that drives different people to do the things they do.

I am sure T-Rich will love his medal. You can give mine to charity to be auctioned off. :-* Please have the inscription read:

Always plays fair, and always gives of himself. A bigger "team guy" was never born. The most charming man to ever sh1t behind a pair of shoes.

Always sh1t behind the shoes... Otherwise you might step in it...

:poke:

:yep:

[Meck77]

Just realized I never got a t-shirt that they said they would send? Anybody else get a t-shirt? No biggy but they did ask for my address and said they would ship one?

[Crushaholic]

Just realized I never got a t-shirt that they said they would send? Anybody else get a t-shirt? No biggy but they did ask for my address and said they would ship one?

I'm just glad that they finally got around to depositing my check after about a month and a half. It was angering me a bit that the check was hanging out there for so long. I was beginning to wonder whether it got lost in the mail.