The fight is on ............

[Spider]

http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2004/12/07/news/casper/f16386cbccd1dd6087256f630021ea15.txt
The people of Casper are starting to see what Wall Mart does to a community ........ We have 1 Already , 49 thousand People in this town ( 66 thousand in the county and another 7 thousand in Douglas )
alot of people I know will be hurt by a second Wall Mart ...........

[Spider]

Time to save Main Street America .............
I wouldnt Begrudge 1 Wal Mart , Wal Mart has the right to do business here , but taking Billions of Tax Dollars from the Goverment to run a stake through the heart of the Small guy , time to put a stop to it ...............

[Hotrod]

Were going thru that right here in my town. We have 1 small wallyworld and they want to take it out and build a Super wallyworld. I say they take their plans and shove them up their collective arse's.

[Spider]

Were going thru that right here in my town. We have 1 small wallyworld and they want to take it out and build a Super wallyworld. I say they take their plans and shove them up their collective arse's.
agreed ....... Every town should have a wal mart , the people should have a choice , but Wal Mart is using goverment Money to gain an advantage over Main street america .........
I still go to a butcher shop , produce store , local markets ...........

[Hotrod]

agreed ....... Every town should have a wal mart , the people should have a choice , but Wal Mart is using goverment Money to gain an advantage over Main street america .........
I still go to a butcher shop , produce store , local markets ...........

When ever I have the option I take my business to the local hardware stores.

[Spider]

When ever I have the option I take my business to the local hardware stores.
;D my Local Hardware store owner loves me ............ Somthing about an Idiot and Power tools puts $$$$ in his eyes ;D

[Spider]

He always tells me .Spider , a chalk line is your friend while making long cuts .....
he always trys to help me ......... My problem is I get into a rush ;D

[bronco militia]

agreed ....... Every town should have a wal mart , the people should have a choice , but Wal Mart is using goverment Money to gain an advantage over Main street america .........
I still go to a butcher shop , produce store , local markets ...........

it sounds like you have issues with your local government. Monument, CO has been battling Walmart and their city council for the same reasons. It got so bad that the town recalled their election of certain council members. Still no Walmart.

[Hotrod]

LOL "there's cold beer in the fridge I have no time for this measuring crap just eye ball the sucker and make the damn cut then we can go have a cold one." rofl

[Spider]

it sounds like you have issues with your local government. Monument, CO has been battling Walmart and their city council for the same reasons. It got so bad that the town recalled their election of certain council members. Still no Walmart.
The fight is still heavy here ..............
2 more meetings , I think it will turn into 6 more ........... we lost a fight about putting a Mini Mart out past 15 th street ...... that was out in the middle of nowhere , now it is a cluster **** .......
we had a 750 Housing Projects crammed down our throat on the eastside of Casper alone , several hundred spread out through casper alone another 1,000 + in bar Nunn ....... 2 nd street extension is just about filled up . car lots out there and a bunch of office buildings ..........
if the second wal Mart passes , then all is lost , as for our small town heritage ,According to an article on Bizjournals.com, the online edition of American Cities Business Journals, Casper ranked eighth out of 226 U.S. labor markets for its 3.5 percent annual rate of job creation. Casper tied with Sheboygan, Wis., in percentage growth terms. Las Vegas, Nev., topped the rankings at 5.1 percent. me and the wife have talked about selling everything we own and going to Riverton or Gilllette .........

[Spider]

LOL "there's cold beer in the fridge I have no time for this measuring crap just eye ball the sucker and make the damn cut then we can go have a cold one." rofl
Hilarious! . I thought I was the only one that did that

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I hate going to Walmart. Rude employees, can't get through the ailses. Smell like stale grease.

[Hotrod]

Hilarious! . I thought I was the only one that did that

Dont even get me started on stormdoor installation. rofl

I maybe the single worst handyman in the world. If you remember the wife has us painting the new house :saywhat: . So I go down to my local hardware store and ask the college idiot for 5 gallons of navajo white satin paint. He tears the top off the 5 gallon bucket so now he cant use the shacker machine. So he proceeds to mix up the paint mixture with a drill and some kind of attachment. I go home that saturday and begin painting right away. Finish the living room and watch football on Sunday. The next Saturday I open up my 5 gallons of paint and mix the crap out of it. Start painting the kitchen well as I come around to the livingroom wall I notice the color does not match :cuss: . Take the 5 gallons back with a sample of the original color and the college idiot says no prob I can color match that and give you 4 one gallon cans of the first color. Great so I go home and repaint the kitchen with my new color matched paint. Then watch football on Sunday. The next saturday I open up my second can of "color matched" paint and find I now have my 3rd color :gripe: . I take the remaining paint down to my friend the college idiot and tell him to shove them up his arse and give me my $ back :cuss: . Now Im heading for sherman williams.

[Rascal]

maybe i'm ignorant, more then likely, but how is walmart forcing manufacturing jobs to go overseas?

[Spider]

I hate going to Walmart. Rude employees, can't get through the ailses. Smell like stale grease.
I went to Wal Mart once , just to see what it was all about ........
they put a gas in the Meat so it stays red longer , cheaper cuts of Meat , far less quality ........
Veggies are alright , pretty hard to screw that up .........
basicaly with Wal Mart , you get what you pay for ..........

[Spider]

maybe i'm ignorant, more then likely, but how is walmart forcing manufacturing jobs to go overseas?
Wal Mart imports alot of its stuff from over seas , that means they are not buying from American Producers ....... Wal Mart is huge , that would be an incredible boost to our locla production sales ...........

[Spider]

Dont even get me started on stormdoor installation. rofl

I maybe the single worst handyman in the world. If you remember the wife has us painting the new house :saywhat: . So I go down to my local hardware store and ask the college idiot for 5 gallons of navajo white satin paint. He tears the top off the 5 gallon bucket so now he cant use the shacker machine. So he proceeds to mix up the paint mixture with a drill and some kind of attachment. I go home that saturday and begin painting right away. Finish the living room and watch football on Sunday. The next Saturday I open up my 5 gallons of paint and mix the crap out of it. Start painting the kitchen well as I come around to the livingroom wall I notice the color does not match :cuss: . Take the 5 gallons back with a sample of the original color and the college idiot says no prob I can color match that and give you 4 one gallon cans of the first color. Great so I go home and repaint the kitchen with my new color matched paint. Then watch football on Sunday. The next saturday I open up my second can of "color matched" paint and find I now have my 3rd color :gripe: . I take the remaining paint down to my friend the college idiot and tell him to shove them up his arse and give me my $ back :cuss: . Now Im heading for sherman williams.

LOL .......... good stuff there

[clarkster]

heres this, i knew a guy that worked at wal mart, and he said theyre the most cutthroat corporation in America, they want to put everyone out of business and thats it. Look at Kmart. Theyve been in the **** house for years now since walmart. With that being said, i like walmart, theyve got some good products and at a good price. some. some of their **** is tailored to the trailer park residents and thats fine. everyones been there.
hey, its the American way and anyone that says they wouldnt do it the same way is a damn liar. like it or hate it, its not going anywhere. btw, dont get me wrong, im all about the mom and pop places still, but most of the time, im all about the "money in my pocket" thing

[Spider]

heres this, i knew a guy that worked at wal mart, and he said theyre the most cutthroat corporation in America, they want to put everyone out of business and thats it. Look at Kmart. Theyve been in the **** house for years now since walmart. With that being said, i like walmart, theyve got some good products and at a good price. some. some of their **** is tailored to the trailer park residents and thats fine. everyones been there.
hey, its the American way and anyone that says they wouldnt do it the same way is a damn liar. like it or hate it, its not going anywhere. btw, dont get me wrong, im all about the mom and pop places still, but most of the time, im all about the "money in my pocket" thing
Thats fair ......... I dont want to run Wal Mart out of Business , but I dont want Wal Mart taking over everything ..........
Right now we have a choice , I would like to keep it that way ........
Wal Mart . Kmart , Target , Sears , J.C. Pennys , right on down to our local Mom and Pop stores ........
Compitition is good for America and our economy , flat cutting throat and hostile take over isnt ...........

[clarkster]

agreed. now that ive matured SOME, and make enough money to actually get decent stuff, i find that Wal Marts **** usually really sucks. I go there for the basic stuff, rubbermaid, school supplies, socks, etc. Its funny how you grow up isnt it? I grew up in DAV and Goodwill clothes and furniture, Wal mart was great in my early 20s, now its crap. how far ive come...

[Spider]

agreed. now that ive matured SOME, and make enough money to actually get decent stuff, i find that Wal Marts **** usually really sucks. I go there for the basic stuff, rubbermaid, school supplies, socks, etc. Its funny how you grow up isnt it? I grew up in DAV and Goodwill clothes and furniture, Wal mart was great in my early 20s, now its crap. how far ive come...
;D I can relate ........ Good will stores , Yellow fronts ........ St Vincient De Paul stores ........... My Dad was a Hard worker , but he would drink .. then he would fight wind up in Jail ........
I get my Kids new stuff , but now the new stuff looks like stuff the Good will would turn down .........

[clarkster]

isnt that ****in crazy?i used to long for nice new blue jeans, you know not faded and ****, now I find myself buying the **** that looks like its been worn for a year. same with my daughter, buy her the nice little shirts and dresses, and whats she want to wear? ****ty old looking jeans and a tshirt. my god, she is 4th generation trailer park...

[Spider]

isnt that ****in crazy?i used to long for nice new blue jeans, you know not faded and ****, now I find myself buying the **** that looks like its been worn for a year. same with my daughter, buy her the nice little shirts and dresses, and whats she want to wear? ****ty old looking jeans and a tshirt. my god, she is 4th generation trailer park...
LOL ..same here ....

[Rock Chalk]

All I can say is thank god for wal mart.

one stop shopping extravaganza for people who hate to shop.

does it hurt mom and pop? probably, but then mom and pop were charging out the ass for cigarettes and soda so screw them, besides mom and pop have turned into Muhammad and Habib so who gives a f*ck.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The corporate powers that be (powers for which the current administration is merely a proxy) are moving toward one goal: an America where there is only one store, one cable news channel, one political party, etc., etc.

Makes you wonder whether Robb and the Bible thumpers are right.

[Sassy]

I hate going to Walmart. Rude employees, can't get through the ailses. Smell like stale grease.
I agree. I hate Walmart.
Although it is cheaper for stuff like laundry detergent, shampoo, cleaning stuff...I just can't bring myself to go there though...The parking lots are the worse! I prefer Target. Their merchandise is better quality and their store is a lot cleaner.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Damn Spyder - they just opened a new Super Walmart a couple of miles from my house - just over the hill from Dove Valley. My wife dragged me over there tonight and the place already smells like burned cooking grease. People smell like they have not had a bath in two weeks, most men have mullets. Why can't they keep these rat holes in KC where they belong. I'll be damned if I am going to eat any food from that place.

[Cleo McDowell]

sounds like the same problem those residents of south park had not too long ago.. you can never kill a wal-mart tho..

[Master___Pain]

it sounds like you have issues with your local government. Monument, CO has been battling Walmart and their city council for the same reasons. It got so bad that the town recalled their election of certain council members. Still no Walmart.

But it's going in just south of Monument, at baptist Road. It will have a similar impact there as it would in Monument.

[Orange4Life]

I'm not a Wal-Mart fan. It stinks in there and there is just way too many people. I can only stand to go there at 2 in the morning if I'm hard up for something. I like to try and suppport the other stores rather than Wal-mart. Its just too big and getting bigger. I work at Malt-O-Meal and we are so dependant on their business Wal-Mart
pretty much dictates almost everything we do/make. Whatever Wal-Mart wants from us they get.

[Spider]

we are winning the fight
Wal- Mart Grant Denied
CasperBY: AMIE BAUER OPPONENTS TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW WEST SIDE SUPER WAL-MART IN CASPER ARE CELEBRATING AFTER STATE OFFICIALS REJECT A BUSINESS READY GRANT.

THE STATE LOAN AND INVESTMENT BOARD DENIED A 1.4 MILLION DOLLAR GRANT THAT WOULD HAVE INDIRECTLY HELPED THE PROJECT.

ALTHOUGH SOME ARE CALLING THIS A VICTORY AGAINST THE CORPORATE GIANT, OTHERS SAY THE DEFEAT WILL ONLY BACKFIRE ON THE TAXPAYERS.

MARLA TROUTMAN IS JUST OF SEVERAL CASPER RESIDENTS WHO ARE SAYING "NO" TO THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF A NEW WEST SIDE SUPER WALMART.

"NOT ONE PENNY OF MY TAX DOLLARS SHOULD GO TO THAT." MARLA SAYS.

AND THE WYOMING STATE LOAN AND INVESTMENT BOARD AGREES. THE BOARD DENIED THE MILLION DOLLAR GRANT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED TO BUILD STREETS , SEWER AND WATER LINES ON PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE NEW SUPERCENTER.

ITS MONEY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER PAUL BERTOLGIO SAYS WOULD NOT DIRECTLY HELP WAL-MART BUT INSTEAD BE VITAL TO THE GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY.

"WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT WALMART HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SUBSEQUENT BUSINESS; ANOTHER SCHOOL OUT THERE." BERTOLGLIO SAYS.

HE SAYS THE REJECTION OF THE GRANT COULD MEAN HIGHER UTILITY RATES AND TAXPAYERS COULD END UP PAYING FOR THE BILL THEMSELVES.

"IF WE CAN`T FUND IT FROM THE STATE WE WILL LOOK INTO INTERNAL FUNDS WATER AND SEWER AS WELL AS GENERAL FUNDS. WE WILL RAISE OUR RATES AND EITHER WAY THE TAXPAYER WILL BE PAYING FOR THIS."

NOT ONLY WILL TAXPAYERS HAVE PAY OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKETS BUT PAY THE PRICE FOR SHUTTING THE DOOR ON BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.

"WHAT IF IT WAS A LOWES? ARE WE GOING TO START PICKING AND COMPANIES WE DON`T LIKE AND START DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THEM? WE CAN`T DO THAT. IT SENDS A TERRIBLE SIGNAL OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY." SAYS BERTOGLIO.
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My answer is , this isnt a Lowes , this is a second Wal Mart , and we already just got a 5% increase in our utillities cost , before this grant was turned down .....
Now Growth is important , we do need to create oppertunities for our Children so they dont leave the state when they turn 18 .... But creating 2 Super Wal Marts for a county that has 66 thousand People in it ( last census take in 2000 . I am sure it is alot higher now ) is a strain on the local business here .......


BUT MARLA BELIEVES AS CITIZENS WITH A VOICE, THAT`S JUST WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO PROTECT THE FUTURE OF HER COMMUNITY.

"WHY SHOULD WE CONTRIBUTE TO A PROJECT LIKE THAT WHO IS PUTTING PEOPLE OUT OF WORK.. OUT-SOURCING JOBS ALL OVER THE WORLD. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR THAT" SAYS MARLA.