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Arkie
10-25-2004, 05:08 PM
REPUBLICANS
Philosophies
- A person is entitled to what s/he earns.
- The sole purpose of Government is to protect citizens' rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
- States Rights.
- Everyone can get rich with the correct work ethic.
Recent Votes
Class Action Fairness Act
The bill moves class action lawsuits from state courts to federal courts. In the Senate, over 80 percent of Republicans voted for the bill. Over 80 percent of Democrats voted against it. (July 8, 2004)
Same-sex Marriage Bill
The bill approves a Constitutional Amendment that prohibited same-sex marriages. This was a closure vote. Almost 90 percent of Republicans in the Senate voted to approve the bill. Over 90 percent of Democrats voted against the bill. (July 14, 2004)
Spending Control Act
The bill imposes spending controls but does not require spending reductions to offset tax reductions nor does it allow tax increases to offset spending increases. The White House describes the bill in this way: "This proposal recognizes that spending is the problem. Tax increases could not be used to offset mandatory spending under this proposal. And it would not subject tax relief legislation to pay-as-you-go procedures." In the House of Representatives, almost 65 percent of Republicans voted for the bill and 95 percent of Democrats voted against it. (June 25, 2004)
Eliminating the Estate Tax
In the House, 98 percent of Republicans voted in favor of a bill eliminating the Estate Tax; nearly 70 percent of Democrats voted against it.(June 18, 2003)
Reducing the ability of local, state and federal governments to regulate imports of goods, services and capital from Mexico and Canada
In the vote on the North American Free Trade Agreement, 2/3 of the House Republicans voted in favor while 60 percent of the House Democrats voted against.(November 17, 1993) In the Senate Republicans voted 4-1 in favor while a slim majority of Democrats voted against. (November 30, 1993)
DEMOCRATS
Philosophies
- Strong and Centralized Federal Government.
- From each according to their abilities; To each according to their needs.
- The Government has the power, ability and authority to solve social problems.
- Steal from the rich, give to the poor.
Recent Votes
USA PATRIOT Act Amendment
The amendment to the USA PATRIOT Act would have restricted authorities from acquiring information from libraries, bookstores, and other businesses. A "yes" vote is a vote to approve the amendment. 93 percent of Democrats voted "yes". 90 percent of Republicans voted "no". (July 8, 2004)
Fighting global warming by reducing carbon emissions
About 85 percent of Republicans voted against. About 75 percent of Democrats voted for the proposal.(October 30, 2003)
Reducing the concentration of media ownership
On a resolution disapproving of the Federal Communications Commission decision to allow greater concentrated ownership of newspapers, TV, and radio stations, 95 percent of the Senate Democrats voted in favor; 80 percent of the Senate Republicans voted against.(September 16, 2003)
Easing access to inexpensive imported prescription drugs
The bill died in the Senate. Some 60 percent of Republicans voted against it; 75 percent of Democrats voted for it.(July 23, 2003)
Prohibiting discrimination by employers against gays
This bill died in the Senate. Over 80 percent of the Senate Republicans voted against it; over 90 percent of the Senate Democrats voted for it.(September 10, 1996)
Raising the minimum wage
In the House 60 percent of Republicans voted against raising the minimum wage over two years from $3.35 to $4.25 an hour; only 4 percent of Democrats did so. (May 23, 1996) In the Senate 100 percent of Democrats and 60 percent of Republicans voted for the raise. (August 2, 1996)
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-25-2004, 05:30 PM
Why I Am Not a Conservative
by Joseph Fulton
Conservatives would have us believe that liberals are out to destroy our country. A popular conservative refrain is that two types of people live in the United States: Americans and liberals. That might be funny except that it's a grotesque distortion of American history. The fact is that every single significant movement advocating an expansion of American liberty has been initiated by liberals and violently opposed by conservatives.
The Abolitionist movement, led by unapologetic liberals like William Lloyd Garrison, Wendell Phillips and Frederick Douglass, was viciously opposed by conservatives in both the North and the South and many abolitionists were murdered or imprisoned.
The Reconstruction of the South following the Civil War was perhaps the boldest liberal experiment in American history, but it was crushed by southern whites who called themselves "The Conservatives" and formed terrorist clubs like the Ku Klux Klan.
The Woman's Rights Convention of 1848 and the subsequent woman's suffrage movement were spearheaded by the indomitable liberal Elizabeth Cady Stanton. Conservatives cried out from pulpits and the halls of Congress against this dangerous attack on "traditional family values." Courageous suffragists would endure 72 years of brutal harassment by conservatives before securing the right to vote.
The noble effort to reform labor laws and protect working class people was led by a diverse group of liberals from Jane Addams to Eugene Debs who were fought every step of the way by conservatives, even when it came to child labor reform!
Finally, during the Civil Rights movement of the 20th century brave liberal Americans, including Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., gave their lives in the fight for equal rights for black Americans. Live television coverage exposed the ugliness of the southern conservatives' opposition to Civil Rights.
Today many good people are being hoodwinked into thinking themselves conservative because of the new mantra that conservatives are more patriotic and more Christian than liberals. They are neither.
The conservative philosophy is not patriotic because it seeks to squelch political dissent and it mocks cultural diversity - the two most important aspects of both our history and our unique American democracy.
Conservatism cannot be Christian because it embraces all sorts of violence including the death penalty, unrestricted sale of firearms, destructive exploitation of our environment and preemptive military invasions against defenseless nations.
Conservatives make a big deal out of their support for the "unborn," but this is an easy position because it doesn't cost a dime. It's when people are actually born into this world that conservatives lose their compassion.
Conservatives lead the fights against tax measures and legislation to fund education and human resources, but they happily support measures to put more people in prison and build more bombs.
Conservatives have always thrived on fear; fear of change, fear of the future, and especially fear of those who are different. They react to this fear by picking on other people; newly freed slaves, women seeking equal rights, immigrant laborers seeking better pay and now gay Americans asking for the most basic of all rights - the right to love and to be loved.
Anyone who picks on those less fortunate, or different, are narrow-minded bullies and as we all learned in grade school, bullies are cowards.
So if you want to be on the wrong side of American history and the wrong side of humanity, go ahead and call yourself a conservative. As for me, I believe that America will rediscover its great liberal tradition and once again strive to become a progressive, creative nation that stands as a beacon of hope for "the tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free."
enjolras
10-25-2004, 10:23 PM
REPUBLICANS
Philosophies
- A person is entitled to what s/he earns.
- The sole purpose of Government is to protect citizens' rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
- States Rights.
- Everyone can get rich with the correct work ethic.
I'm on board, the only problem being that the REALITY differs so strongly from those statements, in particular "The sole purpose of Government is to protect citizens' rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Conservatives have become very involved in legislating morality. Examples:
Gay marraige - if the goal is to protect citizens' rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.. then banning the marraige of many of it's citizens violates the latter two.
Patriot Act - circumvents constitutional guarantees and oversight to provide limited benefits in security. Unquestionably violates that doctrine as it becomes possible to deny the liberty of people who can be held indefinitely with no specific charge or contact with the outside world.
War on Drugs - While some drugs have such a detrimental impact on society, there are others (Marijuana in particular) whose impact is very limited. Yet we throw thousands of users in Jail.. even though their impact on others life, liberty, and happiness is virtually nill. We're violating all three here.
Abortion - Despite the fact that no one has any real idea when life begins, conservatives have latched onto this issue purely based on their personal religious beliefs. Roe V Wade spells out that since we can't know when life begins, and there are hundreds of definite ideas about it, that the best we can do is come up with a best guess.. a compromise thereby constitutionally allowing early pregnancy abortions. Later rulings extended that (probably incorrectly) a bit.. but the basic premise is just. Yet conservatives want to violate their own doctrine since faith dictates that they know the answer, and clearly everyone else viewpoint is wrong.
Alcohol bans - In many conservative states it's impossible to buy alchol in entire counties. Having been involved in this battle, the justification is generally religious, which is especially transparent when sales are forbidden on Sunday in some states. Not being able to buy beer for a Broncos game definitely impacts my happiness.
Teen Curfews - While being both ineffective and expensive to enforce, this is a popular conservative position (even among moderates). I ran a fairly profitable business as a 17 year old (on the front edge of the dot-com boom), but I couldn't stay at a clients shop past 10:00 because I risked a ticket while driving home.
There are lots of other examples. I do feel it's important to digress and make it clear what I'm NOT saying: I am NOT saying that Liberals are better on these issues... teen curfews, in particular, seem to be popular across the board. Yet I find my social conscience is consistently more in line with the democratic platform. I very much a libertarian and beleive that as much as possible, people should be as free as possible to do what makes them happy. The Republicans, while they spout this line, more often than not fail to live up to the ideal as their motivations seem to be more about religion than truly protecting the interests of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness of the American people.
Why I Am Not a Conservative
by Joseph Fulton
Lots of strawmen here.
The fact is that every single significant movement advocating an expansion of American liberty has been initiated by liberals and violently opposed by conservatives.
Perhaps, but some of the laundry list of good liberals and evil conservatives that follows is a little silly - is a 19th century abolitionist really that similar to Barney Frank?
Live television coverage exposed the ugliness of the southern conservatives' opposition to Civil Rights.
Well, there was no live TV of FDR's (that famous liberal) imprisonment of Americans of Japanese descent during WWII, but I guess he was really acting as a conservative, eh?
The conservative philosophy is not patriotic because it seeks to squelch political dissent and it mocks cultural diversity
I guess those radical Leftists and "progressives" on college campuses really are in favor of free speech (except for conservatives) and diversity (again, except for conservatives). There is no shortage of liberals and those to their left who gladly embrace monoculturalism and censorship when it suits their goals.
Conservatives have always thrived on fear; fear of change, fear of the future, and especially fear of those who are different. They react to this fear by picking on other people; newly freed slaves, women seeking equal rights, immigrant laborers seeking better pay and now gay Americans asking for the most basic of all rights - the right to love and to be loved.
Anyone who picks on those less fortunate, or different, are narrow-minded bullies and as we all learned in grade school, bullies are cowards.
This is just a little over the top in the strawman department. Conservatives aren't bullies, or KKK members, and don't engage in "hate crimes". I'm sure someone out there has come up with a similar bit called "Why I am not a liberal" that is as filled with hyperbole as this bit.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-26-2004, 12:17 AM
LOL @ the foregoing attempt by W*GS to deny historical reality and fact in the interest of defending the GOP and the Smirking Sociopath.
W*GS is one of the OM's most vocal cheerleaders for the absolute merger of corporate interests with governement power that is being cemented by the bush junta.
RaiderH8r
10-26-2004, 06:25 AM
Abolition was carried by a Republican President. No more a vocal or important figure in the eventual end of slavery. But I suppose he was a liberal on that day, just to suit your argument. But we wouldn't want to rewrite history.
LOL @ the foregoing attempt by W*GS to deny historical reality and fact in the interest of defending the GOP and the Smirking Sociopath.
Thanks for playing, LABF. I knew you'd respond exactly as you have. But please go on denying reality and fact in your rhetoric flights of fancy. BTW, didja notice that most of the southerners who favored continued segregation were Democrats? Not the same kind of Democrat that at the time inhabited the Northeast, to be sure, but definitely not Republicans.
W*GS is one of the OM's most vocal cheerleaders for the absolute merger of corporate interests with governement power that is being cemented by the bush junta.
Do tell. I'm far more libertarian-leaning than you could possibly understand.
In any case, calling good guys "liberals" and bad guys "conservative" is just baloney.
Rohirrim
10-26-2004, 09:23 AM
Democrats got rhythm. ;D
TailgateNut
10-26-2004, 09:48 AM
Democrats got rhythm. ;D
.....And (a) SOUL. :thumbs:
RaiderH8r
10-26-2004, 09:56 AM
.....And (a) SOUL. :thumbs:
Ain't that sweet
TailgateNut
10-26-2004, 10:01 AM
Not sweet, just human!
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-26-2004, 05:04 PM
Thanks for playing, LABF. I knew you'd respond exactly as you have. But please go on denying reality and fact in your rhetoric flights of fancy.
Do tell. I'm far more libertarian-leaning than you could possibly understand.
It is you who is in denial.
You defend and side with BushCo on virtually every issue and in every debate on this forum--no matter who is doing the arguing.
Your positions on any given issue are indistinguishable from those of the neocons and extreme right-wing repubs.
Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
RaiderH8r
10-26-2004, 06:59 PM
Not sweet, just human!
So I guess that is a no on the puppy kicking party that some of us will be holding.
TailgateNut+1: Not attending. Thanks.
You defend and side with BushCo on virtually every issue and in every debate on this forum--no matter who is doing the arguing.
Sigh. Despite your apparent fondness for this discredited idea, I am not the anti-LABF, at least politically. I am quite different from you in other areas, certainly - I try very hard to be truthful, direct, and honest; I depend on facts (all of them) to support my views, and I actually research my opinions and change them when the facts point to a better position.
You're just simplistically ideological. You're far more like Rush (or Bush) than I am.
Your positions on any given issue are indistinguishable from those of the neocons and extreme right-wing repubs.
Sigh. What's my position on gay marriage? Drug legalization? Free trade? Abortion? Religion? Please, do tell.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-26-2004, 10:52 PM
Sigh. Despite your apparent fondness for this discredited idea, I am not the anti-LABF, at least politically. I am quite different from you in other areas, certainly - I try very hard to be truthful, direct, and honest; I depend on facts (all of them) to support my views, and I actually research my opinions and change them when the facts point to a better position.
Apparently, lying comes as easily as breathing for W*GS.
You call yourself a "Libertarian" but your positions on the most important issues are virtually indistinguishable from those of the most extreme right-wing republicans and neocons on this forum.
In virtually every debate between Dems and repugs, you side with the repugs.
You consistently defend bush and the GOP against all critics with the same fervor as any hardcore supporter while attacking liberals, Clinton, Kerry, the Democratic Party, etc., in a manner that would make Rush proud.
You're nothing but an extreme right-wing republican with commitment phobia.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-26-2004, 10:56 PM
You're just simplistically ideological. You're far more like Rush (or Bush) than I am.
Says a liar who, until recently, sported a Clinton-bashing avatar with a caption that read "liberals' worst nightmare."
If you were really as independent and fair-minded as you claim then you'd use an anti-bush avatar/slogan 50% of the time.
Rohirrim
10-27-2004, 05:54 AM
Things you have to believe if you vote Republican:
1. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when
Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him
and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
2. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but
trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
3. The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our
highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against
Iraq.
4. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
without regulation.
5. Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and
Hillary Clinton.
6. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops
in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
7. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
8. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time
allies, then demand their cooperation and money.
9. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing
health care to all Americans is socialism.
10. HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the
public at heart. “Do you want the government coming between you and your doctor?” Of course not. That’s the HMO’s job.
11. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science,
but creationism should be taught in schools.
12. A president lying about an extramarital affair with another adult is an impeachable
offense. A president lying the country into a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.
13. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the
Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the
Internet.
14. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades,
but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.
15. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless
you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness, and you need our
prayers for your recovery.
16. You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John
Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have the
right to adopt.
17. What Kerry and Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national
interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
Bronco_Beerslug
10-27-2004, 06:32 AM
Things you have to believe if you vote Republican:
1. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when
Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him
and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
2. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but
trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
3. The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our
highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against
Iraq.
4. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
without regulation.
5. Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and
Hillary Clinton.
6. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops
in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
7. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
8. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time
allies, then demand their cooperation and money.
9. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing
health care to all Americans is socialism.
10. HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the
public at heart. “Do you want the government coming between you and your doctor?” Of course not. That’s the HMO’s job.
11. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science,
but creationism should be taught in schools.
12. A president lying about an extramarital affair with another adult is an impeachable
offense. A president lying the country into a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.
13. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the
Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the
Internet.
14. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades,
but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.
15. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless
you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness, and you need our
prayers for your recovery.
16. You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John
Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have the
right to adopt.
17. What Kerry and Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national
interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
:thumbsup:
I wonder how many Bush supporters disagree with any of those points?
TailgateNut
10-27-2004, 07:39 AM
So I guess that is a no on the puppy kicking party that some of us will be holding.
TailgateNut+1: Not attending. Thanks.
No, actually I'll attend to kick the "puppy kickers"! ;D
Spider
10-27-2004, 08:00 AM
Things you have to believe if you vote Republican:
1. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when
Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him
and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
2. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but
trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
3. The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our
highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against
Iraq.
4. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
without regulation.
5. Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and
Hillary Clinton.
6. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops
in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
7. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
8. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time
allies, then demand their cooperation and money.
9. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing
health care to all Americans is socialism.
10. HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the
public at heart. “Do you want the government coming between you and your doctor?” Of course not. That’s the HMO’s job.
11. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science,
but creationism should be taught in schools.
12. A president lying about an extramarital affair with another adult is an impeachable
offense. A president lying the country into a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.
13. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the
Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the
Internet.
14. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades,
but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.
15. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless
you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness, and you need our
prayers for your recovery.
16. You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John
Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have the
right to adopt.
17. What Kerry and Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national
interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
LOL ......... Rep!!!!!!!!!!!
Captain_Poncho
10-27-2004, 08:02 AM
Things you have to believe if you vote Republican:
1. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when
Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him
and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
2. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but
trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
3. The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our
highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against
Iraq...etc.
Roh, buddy I've seriously come to expect more from you that cut-n-paste rhetorical piffle.
So sad to see a good mind turn so lazy that cut-n-paste is the best product possible...
Apparently, lying comes as easily as breathing for W*GS.
You're the liar here, LABF. By far.
You call yourself a "Libertarian" but your positions on the most important issues are virtually indistinguishable from those of the most extreme right-wing republicans and neocons on this forum.
What's my position on gay marriage? Drug legalization? Free trade? Abortion? Religion? Please, do tell.
You're nothing but an extreme right-wing republican with commitment phobia.
Coming from you, that means absolutely nothing.
Says a liar who, until recently, sported a Clinton-bashing avatar with a caption that read "liberals' worst nightmare."
That was just to get your goat. Worked like a charm, too.
Getting your blood pressure up is just too easy, LABF. You've gone through several keyboards because the froth dripping from your mouth keeps shorting them out.
If you were really as independent and fair-minded as you claim then you'd use an anti-bush avatar/slogan 50% of the time.
It's very telling you've not commented on the Soros/Carlyle connection, or the Saudi/Clinton library connection? Are you afraid?
Rohirrim
10-27-2004, 09:12 AM
Roh, buddy I've seriously come to expect more from you that cut-n-paste rhetorical piffle.
So sad to see a good mind turn so lazy that cut-n-paste is the best product possible...
I guess this close to the election, all hope for humor is lost. ;D
Captain_Poncho
10-27-2004, 10:23 AM
I guess this close to the election, all hope for humor is lost. ;D
Humor is the Jib Jab stuff.
Your cut-n-paste was just bitter vitriol.
There's a significant difference I know you're well aware of.
Garcia Bronco
10-27-2004, 10:50 AM
I see no difference from conservatives and liberals in this country on the the political spectrum. The truth of the matter is both are the same...say hello to the new boss...same as the old boss.
RaiderH8r
10-27-2004, 10:51 AM
No, actually I'll attend to kick the "puppy kickers"! ;D
Your party's position on gun control precludes you from bringing appropriate fire power and puts you at a decided disadvantage should you choose to rabble rouse. Additionally, John Ashcroft and Rumsfeld will be attending a very special "Club a Seal for Security" event. We will club seals to raise money to further disenfranchise voters and intimidate minorities all the while rigging elections. Your cause is lost. ***evil laugh***
Captain_Poncho
10-27-2004, 11:06 AM
I've been practicing with my baby seal club on neighborhood cats.
TailgateNut
10-27-2004, 11:06 AM
Your party's position on gun control precludes you from bringing appropriate fire power and puts you at a decided disadvantage should you choose to rabble rouse. Additionally, John Ashcroft and Rumsfeld will be attending a very special "Club a Seal for Security" event. We will club seals to raise money to further disenfranchise voters and intimidate minorities all the while rigging elections. Your cause is lost. ***evil laugh***
My Party???? Contrary to popular belief, I do not follow along party lines. I am for the right to bear arms, against drilling in our last frontier, for the death penalty, against the patriot act,........., I can love one person and be very willing and able to kick the livin' **** out of the next. I'm f-ing unpredictable.
We may agree on hating the raider, but we dis-agree what's best for our country.
RaiderH8r
10-27-2004, 11:30 AM
My Party???? Contrary to popular belief, I do not follow along party lines. I am for the right to bear arms, against drilling in our last frontier, for the death penalty, against the patriot act,........., I can love one person and be very willing and able to kick the livin' **** out of the next. I'm f-ing unpredictable.
We may agree on hating the raider, but we dis-agree what's best for our country.
You may not follow party lines, but rest assured whomever you vote for will.
TailgateNut
10-27-2004, 12:05 PM
With that said, my choices are limited. The lesser of two evils!
Rohirrim
10-27-2004, 12:21 PM
Humor is the Jib Jab stuff.
Your cut-n-paste was just bitter vitriol.
There's a significant difference I know you're well aware of.
Ooooh. Testy. Testy. :poke:
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-27-2004, 03:46 PM
Ooooh. Testy. Testy. :poke:
Panocha can dish it out, but he can't take it.
Captain_Poncho
10-28-2004, 08:33 AM
Panocha can dish it out, but he can't take it.
Pinhead, I love you so.
Your apparently inborn inability to detect irony makes you say some REALLY entertaining things.
bronco militia
10-28-2004, 11:41 AM
for all the lefties out there..
hahahahahahaha!
http://static.vidvote.com/movies/bushuncensored.mov
Captain_Poncho
10-28-2004, 11:50 AM
Is there a bird loose in here?
Arkie
10-28-2004, 12:19 PM
I see no difference from conservatives and liberals in this country on the the political spectrum. The truth of the matter is both are the same...say hello to the new boss...same as the old boss.
I see a huge difference.
% of each party that voted in favor of the bill
Class Action Fairness Act
80% Republicans
20% Democrats
Same-sex Marriage Bill
90% Republicans
10% Democrats
Spending Control Act
65% Republicans
5% Democrats
Eliminating the Estate Tax
98% Republicans
30% Democrats
USA PATRIOT Act Amendment
10% Republicans
93% Democrats
Fighting global warming by reducing carbon emissions
15% Republicans
75% Democrats
Reducing the concentration of media ownership
20% Republicans
95% Democrats
Easing access to inexpensive imported prescription drugs
40% Republicans
75% Democrats
Prohibiting discrimination by employers against gays
20% Republicans
90% Democrats
Raising the minimum wage
40% Republicans
96% Democrats