Third debate thread... Winner takes all.

[Taco John]

It's not ground breaking... and rather obvious... But before my prediction was that Bush only needed to win one of these to win re-election. So far, in my estimation (and apparently the public at large) he is 0-2, though his showing in the second debate was much better than his showing in the first.

My prediction for tonight is that the winner takes all... Of course, the spinners know this, so both teams will be out in full force tonight spinning the hell out of this thing, whoever wins.

I don't have a good feel for this debate at all... Kerry has been solid throughout, while Bush has improved with each one. If that trend continues, Bush should have a better outing than the previous one, and that might be enough to spin a victory for Bush.

Winner takes all.

Let the debate begin.

[Spider]

all i know is my Internets is better then your internets :D

[Hogan11]

The focus is supposed to be on domestic issues this time around....W will have to dance gingerly here to avoid the sweep.

No secret here what my prediction is ....especially with that subject matter....I don't like W at all and I don't think he can pull this one out either.......Kerry sweeps.

[baja]

The pressure must be enormous on both men.

Who is more likely to have a brain fart?

[watermock]

Exactly why is this clown from SeeBS running the show. I was hoping for Hannity. Ha!

[watermock]

I just saw Bush have a brain fart and he hasn't even spoken yet.

[watermock]

Kerry wins the better suit contest.

[baja]

kerry just got some ammo

[baja]

Bush just contraticted himself on Bin Ladin

[Rascal]

what are you talking about?

[baja]

Bush said in the past that he was not that concerned with BL's capture

[Rascal]

Sure if you take it out of context.

[Rascal]

Point for Kerry.

[baja]

Mod is biased. Nice smile and thinly vailed wink

[baja]

Sure if you take it out of context.

No you will see in the next couple of days he will be hit on that

[Rascal]

Problem with pay as you go...same as the other method.

Sorry Kerry, I earn less then 50,000 dollars a year and I got a tax break.

[Rascal]

Mod is biased. Nice smile and thinly vailed wink
whatever baja.

Your own biasness is pathetically showing here.

Liberal moderator and everything is fine, a conservative moderator and all hell breaks loss.

Pathetic.

[baja]

first pres to not use veto in 100 years people will wonder about that.

[baja]

whatever baja.

Your own biasness is pathetically showing here.

Liberal moderator and everything is fine, a conservative moderator and all hell breaks loss.

Pathetic.

If that is your idea of all hell breaking lose you must live a sheltered life

[Rascal]

since he didn't have to who cares? The republicans in the senate shot down expensive spending bills proposed by the democrats :)

[baja]

Bush is doing much better right now

[Rascal]

Problem with Bush here...so if a 40 year old man loses a job he is suppose to go to school? Kerry picked it up, but like he hasn't done the same thing (ie avoiding the topic).

[Rascal]

It's nice to see that the clothing coordinators for each candidate got together and decided to have the candidates wear red polk-a-dot ties.

[baja]

Jobs now that was a loaded question but kerry is handling it fine, very fime

[Rascal]

Point for Bush here. It is my money, not the governments money.

[baja]

Bush doing well on the Gay issue

[Rascal]

gay marriage...tough question. Bush handled it well. Agree with him that judges shouldn't decide but citizens. Good point about Kerry vetoing the law/bill that would prevent one state's decisions from affecting another state.

[Rascal]

Low blow by Kerry bringing up Cheney's daughter. Thought family was suppose to left out of debates. Apparently not.

[baja]

have to call it even to this juncture (gay question)

[Rascal]

Abortion..wow another tough question. Combining religion and abortion. Wow. Kerry is strugling here a bit, but manages to get through it okay.

Kerry an alter boy...did he have any problems with priests?

[Rascal]

Agree with Bush here about partial birth abortions. That is barbaric and kerry loses a point because of that. My opinion only here, but sorry I feel strongly about this issue.

Another example of liberal judges going against the will of the people.

[Rascal]

Good job on health care by Bush.

[Rascal]

Here Kerry goes blaming Bush again for everything. Tell us what you would do to fix it. We know its bad. This annoys me how he does that.

[Rascal]

I call it a draw at this point. Wife needs the computer so I'm logging off.

[OrangeDoofus]

However this shakes out, this is definitely Bush's best performance out of the three debates.

[watermock]

I don't trust Bush when that left eyebrow goes out of control.

[Nick C.]

Low blow by Kerry bringing up Cheney's daughter. Thought family was suppose to left out of debates. Apparently not.
yeah he did not need to bring that up.

this debate is boring I am transfixed on there simular ties.

[watermock]

What is with that Clinton hairdoo on Kerry?

[baja]

US health care is envoy of world?? not hardly

[watermock]

Does Bush blink alot or is it my imagination?

[baja]

However this shakes out, this is definitely Bush's best performance out of the three debates.

yep that's the way I see it too

[watermock]

US health care is envoy of world?? not hardly

Baja goes to the Steve McQueen hospital for enemas. Hey, it's cheap right?

I'm still going to visit you as soon as I pull off "the big one". Ha!

[OrangeDoofus]

Holy crap this is boring. Nobody's winning. The subject matter is dry.

[watermock]

When I think of Baja I always think Shawshank Redemption.

[baja]

Baja goes to the Steve McQueen hospital for enemas. Hey, it's cheap right?

I'm still going to visit you as soon as I pull off "the big one". Ha!

I take responsibility for my own health through preventive measures only wish everyone did.

[Nick C.]

Holy crap this is boring. Nobody's winning. The subject matter is dry.
yeah I was sick of hearing about the war in the first 2 debates and wanted domestic issues to be the focus but this is boring.

[baja]

When I think of Baja I always think Shawshank Redemption.

really great movie

tremendous acting

[OrangeDoofus]

Bush is starting to yell again, so it's getting a little more interesting.

[baja]

this election is about Iraq and foreign policy

[broncogary]

Kerry lost his tan. He is looking old tonight.

[baja]

someone told Bush no matter what Kerry says SMILE.

LMAO

[broncogary]

someone told Bush no matter what Kerry says SMILE.

LMAO


Yeah, he's trying to. :~ohyah!:

[watermock]

Bush wants to go across the stage and kick Kerry's ass. He's starting to lose it.

Hang on Dubya, half an hour to go.

[baja]

I'm tired of politicians talking about family values that do not value families -John Kerry

effective line

[OrangeDoofus]

Bush wants to go across the stage and kick Kerry's ass. He's starting to lose it.

Furious George.

[watermock]

Dubya looks like he's going to make a unilateral ass kicking.

Kerry knows he's losing and is trying to push every possible button to make Dubya lose it.

[baja]

Bush looks like Sad Sack on the cut away

[Kaylore]

Bush seems to be pretty calm right now. Guess this is all perspective.

[watermock]

Man, it's getting nasty. These two really hate each other. You can see the viceral hatred.

[Kaylore]

Owned. I was wondering when Bush was going to point out that Kerry voted against Gulf War 1.

[Hogan11]

Bush seems to be pretty calm right now. Guess this is all perspective.

I guess it is because I don't see where he is winning this thing at all.

[watermock]

Bush pulled it in. He's clearly pissed off at Kerry. Kerry is smirking more than Bush ever has.

[watermock]

Kerry the hunter. How amusing. Does that mean shooting Charlie in the back?

[baja]

Bush looks like he could use a drink

[Kaylore]

Kerry the hunter. How amusing. Does that mean shooting Charlie in the back?
And a police man amazingly. Is there anything this man can't do? Nyah!

[watermock]

Kerry the Hunter is nothing more than a Fox hunt from his horse.

[baja]

Owned. I was wondering when Bush was going to point out that Kerry voted against Gulf War 1.

Kerry should have explained his vote, it under minds much of what he is saying about a strong coalition

[Kaylore]

Kerry keeps pointing out how he's going to be other people: Reagan, Clinton, Carter. It's quite unique. oh here comes the "Bush hates Blacks" rhetoric.

[watermock]

Yeah, Bush is making young black males drop out of high school, father multiple women, causing them as well to drop out of school, and forcing them to deal drugs to survive.

[broncogary]

Yeah, Bush is making young black males drop out of high school, father multiple women, causing them as well to drop out of school, and forcing them to deal drugs to survive.

All part of Kerry's plan.

Tax the drug dealers. :pigsfly:

[Kaylore]

Good moment for Bush. That's the Bush people support.

[watermock]

Kerry is losing it on religion.

[Nick C.]

Kerry keeps pointing out how he's going to be other people: Reagan, Clinton, Carter. It's quite unique. oh here comes the "Bush hates Blacks" rhetoric.

no here comes the Watermockkk hates blacks rhetoric

Yeah, Bush is making young black males drop out of high school, father multiple women, causing them as well to drop out of school, and forcing them to deal drugs to survive.

[Kaylore]

From God to classism. Not sure that's the best choice.

[Hogan11]

Is this a Presidential debate or the 700 Club??

[Nick C.]

Is this a Presidential debate or the 700 Club??
lol for real I don't want to hear that crap

[Kaylore]

Is this a Presidential debate or the 700 Club??
Uh, oh. We talked about praying for our leaders! Crap! Panic! PANIC!!!!!! It's THEOCRACY!!!! HELP!!!!! HELP!!!! CALL THE ATHEISTS!!!!!!

[watermock]

The question was posed to Bush. He didn't bring up religion. I find it highly ironic that people of faith are somehow a pariah in this country now.

[Kaylore]

The question was posed to Bush. He didn't bring up religion. I find it highly ironic that people of faith are somehow a pariah in this country now.

Agreed. Free speech applies unless God is involved. I believe in God and that makes me some stupid hillbilly, apparently.

[Hogan11]

Phleeze....that does nothing, brings nothing and is nothing but rhetorical.

[watermock]

Tereeza is going to streak across the stage and show her 6 incher. Just wait.

Did you see that Pumpkin suit she had on? The fire red hair? Good Lord. WTF was that deal. She looked like something out of a cartoon.

[Nick C.]

now Bush is bashing himself to play to people like myself that despise him.

[Kaylore]

Man, the Bush daughters are hot.

[Nick C.]

Man, the Bush daughters are hot.
you need to get out more if you really belive that.

[Hogan11]

Man, the Bush daughters are hot.

Not as hot as Gore's were.......

[SJ Bronco]

No one said anything about religion 'sept that it should be everyones own business. The "pariah" is the forcing of it upon everyone else.

This debate is going nowhere.....

[Kaylore]

you need to get out more if you really belive that.
Oooo. Good one. You're so clever.

[watermock]

Bush's daughters are sluts.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Kaylore]

Idear. Do you have an idear?

[SJ Bronco]

Bush's daughters are sluts.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

LOL Rep...

Mock keeping this off kilt is pretty funny...

[Nick C.]

Oooo. Good one. You're so clever.
was not atempting to be clever, you made a ignorant comment and I thus replyed.

now buy a playboy or penthouse

[Hogan11]

Bush's daughters are sluts.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Drunken sluts.......not that's there's anything wrong with that either.

[watermock]

Man, Kerry looks tired. This guy's eyeballs have sunk so far behind that incredible forhead so far that he should have an easy time as an actor in horror films.

[Kaylore]

This debate is going nowhere.....

Agree. It bottomed out pretty bad. It's just fluff right now.

[Kaylore]

was not atempting to be clever, you made a ignorant comment and I thus replyed.

now buy a playboy or penthouse
YEAH! You're so cool.

[Kaylore]

Man, Kerry looks tired. This guy's eyeballs have sunk so far behind that incredible forhead so far that he should have an easy time as an actor in horror films.
You that means. Back for the botox!

[Hogan11]

Man, Kerry looks tired. This guy's eyeballs have sunk so far behind that incredible forhead so far that he should have an easy time as an actor in horror films.

or the next Munsters remake

[watermock]

Bush remembered to ask for your vote.

Wow, Tereeza in her pumpkin suit was literally hysterical.

[SJ Bronco]

Agree. It bottomed out pretty bad. It's just fluff right now.

Yeah I think both of them tried so hard to blow eachother away that they both seemed to contradict themselves from what they said in the first two debates.

[Nick C.]

YEAH! You're so cool.
Thanks Cpt. Kirk

[SJ Bronco]

I will vote for kerry, but it won't be because he's a good looking guy...Sheeeeesh, what a ugho!

[Hogan11]

I will vote for kerry, but it won't be because he's a good looking guy...Sheeeeesh, what a ugho!

Whattya mean?...His looks and his wife are very important when it comes to deciding whether or not to vote for him....you're just out of the mainstream in your thought processes.... ::)

[Kaylore]

I will vote for kerry, but it won't be because he's a good looking guy...Sheeeeesh, what a ugho!
Unfotunately many people, mostly women, vote based on looks. A dangerous tactic indeed.

[baja]

I call it for Kerry by a slight margin unlike the first two that I thought Kerry was the clear winner, But I recognize I am influenced by my agreement with most Kerry plans.

[watermock]

Thank God that's over. It was like Chinese WaterTorture.

[baja]

In all three debates I thought Kerry came off as the more presidential of the two men.

[Spider]

Well , that was a let down in alot of ways ........ In some ways it was good ........

[Hogan11]

I call it for Kerry by a slight margin unlike the first two that I thought Kerry was the clear winner, But I recognize I am influenced by my agreement with most Kerry plans.

I agree...this one was much more boring though in contrast to the others.

Break out the broom, Kerry swept these....the real question remains: Does it really matter?

[broncogary]

In all three debates I thought Kerry came off as the more presidential of the two men.

You've been watching too many movies.

[Cito Pelon]

Bush looked out of place again, i.e., as a leader. Same old hesitancy, same repetitive answers, keep making misstatements about Kerry and his record with that smirk he and Cheney share, as if that makes a child's lie the truth.

Kerry kept hammering Bush over and over about Bush's record, Bush never had much of a response, except to keep repeating the transparent misstatements about Kerry. Kerry got the better of him again.

[broncogary]

I agree...this one was much more boring though in contrast to the others.

Break out the broom, Kerry swept these....the real question remains: Does it really matter?

Hey, LABF will be here shortly with the results of 1,000 polls showing Kerry won decisively.

[baja]

I told you the Osma bin Laden foopah was going to hurt Bush deeply

[watermock]

Your totally wrong. Bush clearly won this round. I felt Kerry won the first in a very poor Dubya performance, the second was almost a draw with Kerry winning a few more points, tonight, it was a clear Bush victory.

[Kaylore]

Well , that was a let down in alot of ways ........ In some ways it was good ........
Yeah, I don't know about you guys, but I think I was spoiled by the Town Hall style debate. This was really dull and there was a lot of the same old, same old unloaded.

Both Cadidates seemed very strong. I thought the lesbian comment by Kerry was a low blow.

[Spider]

I told you the Osma bin Laden foopah was going to hurt Bush deeply
Yeah that was killer .........

[gunns]

Problem with pay as you go...same as the other method.

Sorry Kerry, I earn less then 50,000 dollars a year and I got a tax break.

I earn between 40-50k and I got 4 extra dollars on my check and for the first time paid taxes this year. To say the least, the very least I wasn't impressed.

[Spider]

Yeah, I don't know about you guys, but I think I was spoiled by the Town Hall style debate. This was really dull and there was a lot of the same old, same old unloaded.

Both Cadidates seemed very strong. I thought the lesbian comment by Kerry was a low blow.
Yeah . i liked the town hall style better ....... Next town hall no rules , let these guys fight it out

[baja]

You've been watching too many movies.

I've seen street people that look more presidential than GW Bush

[gunns]

Your totally wrong. Bush clearly won this round. I felt Kerry won the first in a very poor Dubya performance, the second was almost a draw with Kerry winning a few more points, tonight, it was a clear Bush victory.

Well the tally on MSNBC is 10%-84% in favor of Kerry. That was about 10 minutes after the debate ended.

[watermock]

Bin Laden is a non factor now, elections happened yesterday in case you didn't notice. We can't go into Pakistan anyway.

The issues are Al Sadr and El Zorro the fanatic Sunnis. We beat down Sadr to the point he's sick and tired of the whole deal, and now thinks he's going to go political.

I would suggest that he worry a bit more about the murder charges against him. They are going to drag this criminal off and put him in a cage with Saddam.

[Kaylore]

Well the tally on MSNBC is 10%-84% in favor of Kerry. That was about 10 minutes after the debate ended.
And that means its true!

[Spider]

I've seen street people that look more presidential than GW Bush
Bush came off as a very personal person , not like Clinton did , but Bush came off as a good guy ..... Short Memory on the OBL issue , but a good guy none the less ...

[Hogan11]

Hey, if it's a replay of the 2000 election and the Supreme Court gives it to W again....will I get another $300.00 to forget about it like last time?

[Spider]

Bin Laden is a non factor now, elections happened yesterday in case you didn't notice. We can't go into Pakistan anyway.
Mock sorry but Bin Laden is responcible for 3,000 American lives how you can dismiss Laden like that is beyond me ........

[broncogary]

I've seen street people that look more presidential than GW Bush

You must mean Taft, Coolidge, Eisenhower, Truman, LBJ, Carter, and the list goes on. I would think that looking presidential would be based on looking like presidents have looked. Some of them weren't too impressive.

Now, another option is acting presidential, but who cares about that?

[baja]

<b>Bin Laden is a non factor now</b> elections happened yesterday in case you didn't notice. We can't go into Pakistan anyway.

The issues are Al Sadr and El Zorro the fanatic Sunnis. We beat down Sadr to the point he's sick and tired of the whole deal, and now thinks he's going to go political.

I would suggest that he worry a bit more about the murder charges against him. They are going to drag this criminal off and put him in a cage with Saddam.


You're dead wrong on that Watermock

[Spider]

I just dont see how Mock can give Laden a free ride like that ........

[broncogary]

I've seen street people that look more presidential than GW Bush

Oh, and happy birthday tomorrow. :thumbsup:

[Antilles]

Abc instant poll said 42% Kerry 41% Bush. 38% of respondants were Republican, 30% Democrat. I'd say that accurately reflects my impression. Ever so slight victory by Kerry

And CBS poll of undecided found 38% Kerry, 25% Bush. This is more lopsided than I saw it.

[gunns]

Unfotunately many people, mostly women, vote based on looks. A dangerous tactic indeed.

I can guarantee you that we women vote on more than what a candidate looks like. If that were the case we women wouldn't be voting this year, that's for sure.

[baja]

Oh, and happy birthday tomorrow. :thumbsup:

Thanks! :) How the hell did you know that a day early?

[watermock]

Well the tally on MSNBC is 10%-84% in favor of Kerry. That was about 10 minutes after the debate ended.

Well, that's perception. Was anyone even watching MSNBC?

Maybe I am off. I saw what I saw. It just shows how polarized this election is.

To honestly give a 10-84 count is literally disengenuous. How they can say that with a straight face is totally amusing.

Unless I am totally blind, Bush will see a bump in the polls.

[broncogary]

Thanks! :) How the hell did you know that a day early?

I'm a Republican. I'm watching you! :~ohyah!:

[Hogan11]

CNN is calling it for Kerry.....not that that is a surprise or anything.

[gunns]

And that means its true!

Were you under the impression I cared if you thought it was true or not? Because I didn't. It was one of two sites I had been to and I was posting what was there. A little touchy?

[SJ Bronco]

I'd say it will make no diff at all in the polls. That whole debate was useless.

[broncogary]

I'd say it will make no diff at all in the polls. That whole debate was useless.

Au contraire! I had a few tall, cold, ones. :alky:

[gunns]

Well, that's perception. Was anyone even watching MSNBC?

Maybe I am off. I saw what I saw. It just shows how polarized this election is.

To honestly give a 10-84 count is literally disengenuous. How they can say that with a straight face is totally amusing.

Unless I am totally blind, Bush will see a bump in the polls.

I'm sure they were going to allow for more votes seeing as it was only about 10 minutes after the debate ended. Chill dude, chill, maybe your guy will pull within respectability this time.

[gunns]

Ok, ok it now says 22% to 78%.

Feel better?

[watermock]

I love how CNN has Richard Wolffe commenting on the debate with a British accent so thick he needs to be asked for his green card.

Maybe CNN should interview Al Sadr.

[broncogary]

I earn between 40-50k and I got 4 extra dollars on my check and for the first time paid taxes this year. To say the least, the very least I wasn't impressed.

So you didn't pay taxes the other years?

[baja]

Ok, ok it now says 22% to 78%.

Feel better?

I noticed in an earlier post of yours you share that you are a women.

I was curious as a woman why you would chose the screen name <b>"Gunns".

[Blueflame]

I just dont see how Mock can give Laden a free ride like that ........

No doubt, §Pide®... and it's a major flip-flop for Mock. I'm certain I've read Mock posts calling for the summary execution of all the terrorists involved in the 9/11 attacks.

[watermock]

Let's see your boobies.

[Blueflame]

Let's see your boobies.

Now, that was uncalled-for, Mock. tsk tsk

[baja]

Let's see your boobies.

You want to see Spider's boobs - you should be for Kerry

[Spider]

I have No boobies ........... if I did I wouldnt be married ;D

[Blueflame]

I have No boobies ........... if I did I wouldnt be married ;D

I have 'em... and I'm married... ;D :P ;D

[Spider]

I have 'em... and I'm married... ;D :P ;D
if you had male hormones you wouldnt be ;D
a Chance to play with boobies and no nagging ......... too good to pass up ;D

[baja]

I have 'em... and I'm married... ;D :P ;D

That must come under the one set to a couple rule

[Blueflame]

if you had male hormones you wouldnt be ;D
a Chance to play with boobies and no nagging ......... too good to pass up ;D

LOL

I don't nag... most of the time anyway. I suppose I do have my moments, though.... and I can be a real (b-word) if the Broncos lose... :P :P :P

[baja]

Besides if both parties had then in size there would be much more flip floppen than Kerry has ever done.

[TailgateNut]

I have some too, but they belong to my wonderful wife! :~ohyah!:

[Blueflame]

That must come under the one set to a couple rule

Most assuredly it does in our case. Ha!

[watermock]

Originally Posted by §Pide®
I just dont see how Mock can give Laden a free ride like that ........


No doubt, §Pide®... and it's a major flip-flop for Mock. I'm certain I've read Mock posts calling for the summary execution of all the terrorists involved in the 9/11 attacks.

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Total Bullcrap. The point is that Mushareff for whatever his name is has enough problems in Pakistan without having our special forces announcing they are invading Pakistan, which whould create a civil war.

WTF is wrong with you people. If we find a lead and can take this asshole out that's fine, but it's not worth losing Pakistan. Bin Laden is a liver diseased freak show in hiding. You people don't get it. Where did we find Saddam? Was he on a throne? He was in a PIT IN THE GROUND IN A FREAKING HUT.

And you people think Bin Laden sits on a throne. HE'S IN A PIT IN THE GROUND UNDER A FREAKING HUT.

I am not contradicting anything I have said before. I have said he is irrelevant. Bin Laden can't even scrape up a video camera at this point. This is comical. We tood down his puppet government and installed free elections. He's a terrorist that is hiding out in Pakistan. He's not relevant whatsoever. Sit down and go sit in the corner. Bin Laden is TOTALLY DONE.


.

[baja]

My wife kept them in the divorce.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by §Pide®
I just dont see how Mock can give Laden a free ride like that ........


No doubt, §Pide®... and it's a major flip-flop for Mock. I'm certain I've read Mock posts calling for the summary execution of all the terrorists involved in the 9/11 attacks.

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Total Bullcrap. The point is that Mushareff for whatever his name is has enough problems in Pakistan without having our special forces announcing they are invading Pakistan, which whould create a civil war.

WTF is wrong with you people. If we find a lead and can take this asshole out that's fine, but it's not worth losing Pakistan. Bin Laden is a liver diseased freak show in hiding. You people don't get it. Where did we find Saddam? Was he on a throne? He was in a PIT IN THE GROUND IN A FREAKING HUT.

And you people think Bin Laden sits on a throne. HE'S IN A PIT IN THE GROUND UNDER A FREAKING HUT.

I am not contradicting anything I have said before. I have said he is irrelevant. Bin Laden can't even scrape up a video camera at this point. This is comical. We tood down his puppet government and installed free elections. He's a terrorist that is hiding out in Pakistan. He's not relevant whatsoever. Sit down and go sit in the corner. Bin Laden is TOTALLY DONE.


.Well if Bush done it right the first time we wouldnt be having this talk now would we ?

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by §Pide®
I just dont see how Mock can give Laden a free ride like that ........


No doubt, §Pide®... and it's a major flip-flop for Mock. I'm certain I've read Mock posts calling for the summary execution of all the terrorists involved in the 9/11 attacks.

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Total Bullcrap. The point is that Mushareff for whatever his name is has enough problems in Pakistan without having our special forces announcing they are invading Pakistan, which whould create a civil war.

WTF is wrong with you people. If we find a lead and can take this asshole out that's fine, but it's not worth losing Pakistan. Bin Laden is a liver diseased freak show in hiding. You people don't get it. Where did we find Saddam? Was he on a throne? He was in a PIT IN THE GROUND IN A FREAKING HUT.

And you people think Bin Laden sits on a throne. HE'S IN A PIT IN THE GROUND UNDER A FREAKING HUT.

I am not contradicting anything I have said before. I have said he is irrelevant. Bin Laden can't even scrape up a video camera at this point. This is comical. We tood down his puppet government and installed free elections. He's a terrorist that is hiding out in Pakistan. He's not relevant whatsoever. Sit down and go sit in the corner. Bin Laden is TOTALLY DONE.


.

I disagree. He's still a powerful "player" with regards to Al Qaeda and as such, he still poses a significant danger to America. He's like a rabid dog that needs hunted down and brought to justice... and until that happens, he will remain a threat. Furthermore, the fact that he is still at large emboldens other terrorists.

[Spider]

My wife kept them in the divorce.
Hate it when that happens ;D

[TheDave]

Originally Posted by §Pide®
I just dont see how Mock can give Laden a free ride like that ........


No doubt, §Pide®... and it's a major flip-flop for Mock. I'm certain I've read Mock posts calling for the summary execution of all the terrorists involved in the 9/11 attacks.

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Total Bullcrap. The point is that Mushareff for whatever his name is has enough problems in Pakistan without having our special forces announcing they are invading Pakistan, which whould create a civil war.

WTF is wrong with you people. If we find a lead and can take this asshole out that's fine, but it's not worth losing Pakistan. Bin Laden is a liver diseased freak show in hiding. You people don't get it. Where did we find Saddam? Was he on a throne? He was in a PIT IN THE GROUND IN A FREAKING HUT.

And you people think Bin Laden sits on a throne. HE'S IN A PIT IN THE GROUND UNDER A FREAKING HUT.

I am not contradicting anything I have said before. I have said he is irrelevant. Bin Laden can't even scrape up a video camera at this point. This is comical. We tood down his puppet government and installed free elections. He's a terrorist that is hiding out in Pakistan. He's not relevant whatsoever. Sit down and go sit in the corner. Bin Laden is TOTALLY DONE.


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Not just done... but TOTALLY DONE... What a tool.

[baja]

Originally Posted by §Pide®
I just dont see how Mock can give Laden a free ride like that ........


No doubt, §Pide®... and it's a major flip-flop for Mock. I'm certain I've read Mock posts calling for the summary execution of all the terrorists involved in the 9/11 attacks.

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Total Bullcrap. The point is that Mushareff for whatever his name is has enough problems in Pakistan without having our special forces announcing they are invading Pakistan, which whould create a civil war.

WTF is wrong with you people. If we find a lead and can take this asshole out that's fine, but it's not worth losing Pakistan. Bin Laden is a liver diseased freak show in hiding. You people don't get it. Where did we find Saddam? Was he on a throne? He was in a PIT IN THE GROUND IN A FREAKING HUT.

And you people think Bin Laden sits on a throne. HE'S IN A PIT IN THE GROUND UNDER A FREAKING HUT.

I am not contradicting anything I have said before. I have said he is irrelevant. Bin Laden can't even scrape up a video camera at this point. This is comical. We tood down his puppet government and installed free elections. He's a terrorist that is hiding out in Pakistan. He's not relevant whatsoever. Sit down and go sit in the corner. Bin Laden is TOTALLY DONE.


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You consistently miss the point. The issue being discussed is Bush said tonight that capturing or killing Osma bin Laden was always important and always a priority.

Yet he incredibly said just before he invaded Iraq that the capture of Osma bin Laden was not that important to him.

[enjolras]

I'd say it will make no diff at all in the polls. That whole debate was useless.

Not completely useless, it gave me plenty of time to watch the ALCS:)

[Spider]

Thats Flip Floppin ................

[TailgateNut]

Well if Bush done it right the first time we wouldnt be having this talk now would we ?

Cha-Ching!

Tonight's debate didn't change my vote. I filled out my ballot this morning, it did however change my opinion of Bush. Before the debate I was a bit embarrased to have him as our president, now I'm completely embarrased!

[watermock]

Do you want to invade Pakistan, an ally?

Musharef's rule is tenuous at best.

You don't even have a clue. The first thing you would do if we went thru the Kahnadahar pass would be to biatch and moan.

I am telling you what reality is. We have special forces looking for the prick. One of them was named Pat Tillman.

We can't announce we have gone over the Pakistan border you dimwit.

[Spider]

Cha-Ching!

Tonight's debate didn't change my vote. I filled out my ballot this morning, it did however change my opinion of Bush. Before the debate I was a bit embarrased to have him as our president, now I'm completely embarrased!
I dont think that was the reaction the Bush team was looking for ;D

[Spider]

Do you want to invade Pakistan, an ally?

Musharef's rule is tenuous at best.

You don't even have a clue. The first thing you would do if we went thru the Kahnadahar pass would be to biatch and moan.

I am telling you what reality is. We have special forces looking for the prick. One of them was named Pat Tillman.

We can't announce we have gone over the Pakistan border you dimwit.
No what I wanted was the US to capture OBL , not let Warlords handle the job ........ I am kinda funny that way about finishing a task that you started out doing ........ But hey we got Martha , Saddam and Cat stevens all in that order ........

[baja]

Hate it when that happens ;D

No shiit I wanted joint custody but the judge would not hear of it.

[Spider]

No shiit I wanted joint custody but the judge would not hear of it.
LOL .........

[baja]

Do you want to invade Pakistan, an ally?

Musharef's rule is tenuous at best.

You don't even have a clue. The first thing you would do if we went thru the Kahnadahar pass would be to biatch and moan.

I am telling you what reality is. We have special forces looking for the prick. One of them was named Pat Tillman.

We can't announce we have gone over the Pakistan border you dimwit.

Point is we had him cornered and incredibility we diverted out focus away from him. I have always thought that very mysterious.

[TailgateNut]

I dont think that was the reaction the Bush team was looking for ;D

And to top off te evening, right after the debate, the Army National Guard called to talk to my son. Big mistake!
Why doesn't he call George and ask him to fullfill his duty to his country first.
I have, and I'll be damned if my son serves under the command of a welcher!

[baja]

Why does Ann Couter have an adams apple

[Spider]

And to top off te evening, right after the debate, the Army National Guard called to talk to my son. Big mistake!
Why doesn't he call George and ask him to fullfill he duty to his country first.
I have, and I'll be damned if my son serves under the command of a welcher!
one Father to another
I hope your son makes it back alive and well ... my son is 10 so he has 8 years ...........

[Spider]

Why does Ann Couter have an adams apple
LOL ....... No shiat ..... Thats is one woman I would never do .......

[enjolras]

....... No shiat ..... Thats is one woman I would never do .......

I would..

*sighs* Sometimes I just hate myself

[baja]

I would..

*sighs* Sometimes I just hate myself

You have heard of inies and outies when it comes to navels

Do not be shocked to find that Ann's vagina is an outie.

[Spider]

You have heard of inies and outies when it comes to navels

Do not be shocked to find that Ann's vagina is an outie.
Congrats . you just made a big redneck in Wyoming say .......ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ;D

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Sweep!

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/elmer6963/sweeper.gif

3-0, baby!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Kerry dominated on issues even more than in the previous 2 debates. That may matter since we're closer to election day now and since this is supposedly the "women's" debate as the men are watching baseball. (Not my idea, but it's been mentioned a number of times on the cable newsnets today).
Dunno about style points but Bush really semed to fade in the last half, and especially in the last 20 minutes or so. He had a glazed look in his eyes--like he was on some heavy drugs. Can't see anyone but the usual whores saying Smirk won.

And wow--Bush claims he never said Osama doesn't matter any more?
Another figment of our collective imaginations or did Bush tell the WHOPPER of the night with that little tale? Did you notice how Bush did not answer the question about minimum wage? He pissed away the entire time allotted talking about education.
Unless you define victory by making stupid faces, juvenile head gestures and blinking uncontrollably like you suffer from Tourettes Syndrome, I have to call this one for Kerry.

[watermock]

LABF fell off the tomato truck.

Bush lost the first debate, narrowly lost the second, and totally thrashed him on the third.

Just wait. Just asserting things do not make reality dimwit.

Bush will go up two points in the polls.

Want to bet me?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Kerry Wins Third Debate

ABC Who won the debate?

Among Democrats – Kerry: 81%

Among Republicans – Bush: 73%

CBS Poll uncommitted voters:

Who won the debate:

Kerry-Edwards: 39

Bush-Cheney: 25

Tie: 36

CBS POLL, Kerry has clear positions on issues:

Before: 29%

After: 60%

CNN Poll:

Kerry 52%

Bush 39%

MSNBC Keith Oberman:

12 Rounds Kerry

4 Rounds Bush

MSNBC Online poll:

Who won the debate?

Kerry 75, Bush 25%

KERRY WINS ABC REPUBLICAN HEAVY POLL:

Of the 566 People Polled (38% Were Republican, 30% Democrat, 28% Independent) Kerry Won 42%-415

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Kerry In Control And Winner

Bob Novak: “Kerry seems to be overpowering Bush.” [cnn.com, 10/13/04]

Candy Crowley: “If what you’re looking for in a candidate is the best debater, I mean, that is definitely John Kerry. He has a quick command of the facts, he is very articulate, and I think the poll reflects that.” [CNN, 10/13/04]

Ron Reagan: “I will predict that the polls tomorrow, just as they have in the two previous presidential debates, will say that Kerry won.” [MSNBC, 10/13/04]

Pat Buchanan: “Kerry was, I thought, very much at the top of his game and I thought toward the end, when you saw Kerry, you saw more of the humanity of the man in some of those questions, which was very helpful to them; talking about the daughters and things. I thought he had some excellent moments.” [MSNBC, 10/13/04]

John Roberts: “I would probably have to give it to John Kerry. He seemed a little bit more poised.” [CBS, John Roberts, 10/13/04]

Joe Scarborough: “It gave Democrats a reason to be excited about John Kerry.” [MSNBC, 10/13/04]

Jon Meacham, Newsweek: “John Kerry took the populist war straight to the President.” [MSNBC, 10/13/04]

Tavis Smiley: “I think, Peter, that you have to shore up your bases…I think Mr. Kerry did that with people of color on the left.” [ABC, 10/13/04]

Bill Schneider: “Well this was a decisive win for John Kerry. It was just about as decisive as his win in the first debate, which everyone agreed was a blowout. His, the first debate he won by 16 points; this debate, Kerry won by 13 points. According to the views of the viewers polled immediately after the debate so they had no chance really to be influenced by the spin.” [CNN, 10/13/04]

Andrea Mitchell: “Kerry says, well we all, you know, married above ourselves and some would say, me more than most – joking about Teresa Heinz and her extraordinary fortune and I thought that was actually showing a lot of self confidence of John Kerry to joke about that disparity.” [MSNBC, 10/13/04

Kerry’s Momentum Grew And Grows

David Gergen: "John Kerry, Sen. Kerry gained strength as the debate went on and I thought he became much more effective and if anything I thought the last part of the debate was his." [PBS, 10/13/04]

Carlos Watson: “As we went along, as we talked about social security, as we talked about immigration, as we talked even about the Supreme Court, I thought John Kerry ultimately found his voice. And when all is said and done I think Kerry will be proclaimed the winner, which I think will be significant because I think he will be viewed as having won all three debates.” [CNN, 10/13/04]

Dean Reynolds: “I think the candidate whose numbers have been moving in the right direction for the last 10 days has been Senator John Kerry, this debate did nothing to stop that, and I think from the Kerry point of view they’ll be happy about the results tonight.” [ABC, 10/13/04]

Anthony Mason: “Dan, the uncommitted voters in our survey have given the edge in this debate, to this final debate, to John Kerry.” [CBS, 10/13/04]

Kerry Appealed To Voters

David Gergen: "What I thought John Kerry did very effectively tonight was reach out to women voters and they've become critical to his election Charlie, its the bigggest change that's taken place since these debates started. And tonight, I would imagine with the Yankees and Red Sox on, there were probably a lot of women in that audience tonight." [PBS, 10/13/04]

"After viewing two presidential debates, a group of local independent voters has decided whom to support - and will use tonight's face-off simply to make sure they've got it right. Currently, Kerry is the pick of the majority. The Denver Post gathered the five panelists last month to view the debates. At the time, none of them had decided." [Denver Post, 10/13/04]

Seniors Weigh In For Kerry. AARP hosted a debate watch party in Las Vegas they were asked: Which presidential candidate best addressed the issues important to you? 76.2% for John Kerry, 15.1% George W. Bush, 8.7 Draw

Kerry More Presidential

Bill Schneider: “Well I think he did appear more presidential than the president, which is exactly why he won the first debate and why he won this debate.” [CNN, 10/13/04]

Richard Wolfe: “John Kerry has looked more presidential and more personable as these debates have gone on.” [CNN, 10/13/04]

Perry Bacon, Time Magazine: “And still, Kerry came out looking more presidential…” [CNN, 10/13/04]

Kerry Clear On Issues

Andrea Mitchell: “I think Kerry cleared up any confusion that might have existed about how he as a Catholic was dealing with this very complex issue [abortion].” [MSNBC, 10/13/04]

George Stephanopoulos: “I thought Senator Kerry was most effective on talking about jobs, minimum wage, healthcare and social security.” [ABC, 10/13/04]

"Kerry's answer on health-care costs may be his best yet. He lays out the case against the administration logically and clearly." [Kit Seeyle, New York Times online, 10/13/04]

"In response to the flu vaccine, Bush narrowly focuses on the question and tells people not to get a flu shot. Kerry smartly takes the topic back to health care." [Kit Seeyle, New York Times online, 10/13/04]

Chris Wallace: "I thought perhaps because of the subject matter that John Kerry did better in the second half on subjects like minimum wage which the president seemed somewhat uncomfortable on." [Fox News, 10/13/04]

Mark Shields: “I thought Kerry's best answer by far was on the assault weapons. When the President begged off, it was Bob Schieffer's question to him Jim, why didn't you, you said you'd sign it, why didn't you lift a finger to do it, he said well they told me in Congress they didn't have the votes to do it and he said I would have gone to Tom Delay, and said we're going to have a fight, we'll go to the country on this. I thought that was probably Kerry's best answer. [PBS, 10/13/04]

Chris Matthews: “Senator Kerry tonight was able to score on the class issue.” [MSNBC, 10/13/04]

Tom Brokaw: “I think that they were seeing on the war issue that John Kerry had tapped into something out there in America. That there were doubts even among the president’s supporters on the Republican side of the agenda and especially in a lot of those traditionally red states where they have a lot of people overseas and beginning to wonder if this was going well or not. So they had to move it; move the agenda, if you will, off the war and harder onto the social issues.” [MSNBC, 10/13/04]

Bush Fell, Kerry Cleaned-Up

Ron Reagan: “George Bush made a mistake. Kerry quoted him accurately as it turns out in saying he’s not really worried about Osama bin Laden and Bush came back and said, well I don’t recall ever saying anything like that, we’ll you’ll see the clip of him saying exactly that tomorrow.” [MSNBC 10:32 pm]

Mark Shields: “I think Kerry is far more factual.” [PBS, 10/13/04]

Brian Williams: “We heard the name Osama Bin Laden mentioned again tonight and tonight our fact checkers found the President in a major contradiction. Here is what the President said on stage tonight in response to a charge by Sen. Kerry [Bush clip, exaggerations]. But here is what the President said about Bin Laden in March of 2002 [Bush clip saying he is not concerned about Bin Laden]. [NBC, 10/13/04]

Chris Jansing: “He painted the president as some one who led us to a misguided war, who has put Americans at risk because they don't have health insurance, who has lost more jobs than any president.” [MSNBC, 10/13/04]

Bush Mission To Win Debate: NOT ACCOMPLISHED

George Stephanopoulos: Most Americans believe we’re going in the wrong direction right now. [ABC, 10/13/04]

Jeff Greenfield: “I think to the extent that the Republicans were looking for the president to lay the heavy lumber on John Kerry, that did not happen. And so if we’ve gone this last ten days with Kerry slowly moving up on Bush, I don’t see anything in this debate that will change that.” [CNN, 10/13/04]

John King: “I do think Republicans will agree that the president was perhaps not emphatic or focused enough in doing as much as he wanted to do to calling the Senate record into play and put the liberal label on Senator Kerry.” [CNN, 10/13/04]

Bob Novak: “Bush looks wishy-washy on the assault-weapons ban.” [cnn.com, 10/13/04]

Richard Wolfe: “John Kerry, I thought, took this one by points. The president really needed to get a big victory tonight and he fell short of that. You know, he beat himself in the previous debates, but that really wasn’t good enough.” [CNN, 10/13/04]

Bush’s Expressions Showed His Weakness

"Bush seems more on edge than Kerry. His voice is rising, almost to a shout. And he pounds his hand for emphasis. Kerry is trying to show he is cool, calm and collected." [Kit Seeyle, New York Times online, 10/13/04]

Bob Novak: “Bush's chuckles are not so good.” [cnn.com, 10/13/04]

Chris Matthews: “I think the president had sort of an unhappy look but it was a very controlled and disciplined look. He was obviously told ‘they’re looking at you, don’t put on a show.’ But he didn’t look happy. He wasn’t used to this kind of brow-beating.” [MSNBC, 10/13/04]

[watermock]

Wait till you see the polls.

Your propoganda will be proved wrong.

I guarantee you polls will move in Bush's favor.

You have been a pathetic jackoff for months here. See what the real polls say.

[watermock]

Candy Crowley.

You honestly think we are suppoesed to listen to someone named Candy Crowley from CNN?

It's hysterical.

Candy Crowley? Jesus Christ. Let's bring in Itchy and Scratchy while we are at it.

Candy Crolwley sounds like a porn star.

This is pathetic.

[baja]

Candy Crowley.

You honestly think we are suppoesed to listen to someone named Candy Crowley from CNN?

It's hysterical.

Candy Crowley? Jesus Christ. Let's bring in Itchy and Scratchy while we are at it.

Candy Crolwley sounds like a porn star.

This is pathetic.

This from a guy calling himself Watermock.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

This from a guy calling himself Watermock.

What Willie the Wino doesn't seem to realize is that Candy Crowley is one of Bush's hardest-working and most loyal media whores--and she called this one for Kerry.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Third Presidential Debate: Kerry and Edwards Take the Four Game Series Against the Barbary Pirates

In the second debate, Bush made some inane comment asking if anyone wanted to buy some wood. Well, we know the answer now: Kerry's the one with the presidential timber.

If you didn't know who was president and you landed in front of a television set tonight, you surely would have come away thinking Kerry was the Commander in Chief. Bush was alternately babbling, snide, smirking, and, we think, drooling.

But more importantly, Bush was on the defensive. The first ten minutes of the "debate" was perhaps a draw, but then Kerry took off and left Bush in the dust. It's not so much that Kerry was dynamic (no one has accused him of that characteristic), but he spoke with clarity, integrity, competence, and authority to the American people. In the first two debates, Kerry talked to the moderator. Tonight he addressed the American people, particularly the working class and the poor, by directly looking into the camera.

Kerry co-opted what was Bush's strong suit in the 2000 debate, building a direct relationship with the viewer. Bush, in contrast, looked like some long-term congressional staffer who was called into play the role of president so that Kerry could practice on him. Bush appeared vulnerable, lacking in confidence, repetitive, cliché ridden, and always defensive.

If Bush was listening to Karen Hughes in the first debate and on speed in the second debate, Wednesday it appeared he was on downers. It was hard to know what he was talking about half the time, even when he was coherent. You just got the sense that he was a wind-up doll who mouthed pre-programmed platitudes no matter what the question was from Bob Schieffer.

Here was a guy [Bush] who would hog more time, in violation of the debate rules, and dig a deeper hole for himself!

Meanwhile, Kerry concentrated on repeating key messages that we have heard before. He also singled out swing states by displaying knowledge about their needs -- and addressed core Democratic constituency groups. He was going directly for the battleground state vote -- and we believe succeeded in conveying sincerity and credibility.

Bush looked a bit confused, disdainful and irritated, as if he was unsure how "a Bush" had fallen so low that a "Massachusetts Liberal" was getting the best of him. You kept getting the feeling that George wanted to roll out a keg, hoist a few steins, and make it all better.

In recent BuzzFlash's we have reported on a national epidemic of how the Republicans are trying to already steal the vote by suppressing the Democratic turnout and registration in states across America, including Nevada, Oregon, Florida, Colorado and Ohio.

You get the feeling after the third presidential debate that the only way Bush will get another four years in the White House is the same way he got the first four years. Daddy's friends will have to steal if for Junior. Uncle Dick and Jim Baker will do the heavy lifting.

The embarrassment is all over now. Bush can return to his anti-democracy Republican-only rallies where the Secret Service arrest people wearing Kerry T-shirts and betray the Constitution in the process.

Now, Bush just has to go through the motions through election day -- and hope that the family loyalists will once again carry off a daylight robbery of democracy.

Because the only way he can win the election now is by stealing it.

http://www.buzzflash.com/buzzscripts/buzz.dll/sub2

[Mile High Shack]

My wife kept them in the divorce.

no wonder why your so bitter

[baja]

no wonder why your so bitter

Is English your first language?

[Rascal]

I earn between 40-50k and I got 4 extra dollars on my check and for the first time paid taxes this year. To say the least, the very least I wasn't impressed.

I paid 2,000 dollars less this year and nothing changed except for the tax laws (marriage penalty and etc). Maybe you need to find somebody better to do your taxes.

[baja]

no wonder why your so bitter

Clearly Bush should have fully funded "No Child Left Behind".

[watermock]

it's overfunded you dip.

You don't get it do you. It was so overfunded they couldn't even use all the money.

Look it up.

[gunns]

So you didn't pay taxes the other years?

Never on April 15th until this year.

[gunns]

I noticed in an earlier post of yours you share that you are a women.

I was curious as a woman why you would chose the screen name <b>"Gunns".

It refers to John Elways "Gunns".

[gunns]

LABF fell off the tomato truck.

Bush lost the first debate, narrowly lost the second, and totally thrashed him on the third.

Just wait. Just asserting things do not make reality dimwit.

Bush will go up two points in the polls.

Want to bet me?

From the most Republican state in the nation, the polls this morning state that Kerry won by 72%. This is Utah, which is totally Republican dominated, where you can dress up a fire hydrant in a suit and state it's Republican and it will win.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

From the most Republican state in the nation, the polls this morning state that Kerry won by 72%. This is Utah, which is totally Republican dominated, where you can dress up a fire hydrant in a suit and state it's Republican and it will win.

Were those online polls? If so they're virtually worthless, they can so easily be rigged. People need to simply look at Pro Bowl and MLB All-Star voting to see that. It also doesn't matter what state it is, if it's online. I didn't know there were Utah-specific websites that no one else can access unless they're physically in Utah.

Also doesn't help when anyone who receives e-mails from the DNC has received e-mails before every debate to tell them to go vote in every online poll to say that Kerry won regardless of what actually happened.

[baja]

Were those online polls? If so they're virtually worthless, they can so easily be rigged. People need to simply look at Pro Bowl and MLB All-Star voting to see that. It also doesn't matter what state it is, if it's online. I didn't know there were Utah-specific websites that no one else can access unless they're physically in Utah.

Also doesn't help when anyone who receives e-mails from the DNC has received e-mails before every debate to tell them to go vote in every online poll to say that Kerry won regardless of what actually happened.

Herc unless something big happens Bush is out.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Herc unless something big happens Bush is out.

Uh-huh. Let me know when the electoral map begins to change.

[TailgateNut]

Were those online polls? If so they're virtually worthless, they can so easily be rigged. People need to simply look at Pro Bowl and MLB All-Star voting to see that. It also doesn't matter what state it is, if it's online. I didn't know there were Utah-specific websites that no one else can access unless they're physically in Utah.

Also doesn't help when anyone who receives e-mails from the DNC has received e-mails before every debate to tell them to go vote in every online poll to say that Kerry won regardless of what actually happened.

I feel left out/ cheated. I didn't get one of those E-mails! What a crock!

[Spider]

From the most Republican state in the nation, the polls this morning state that Kerry won by 72%. This is Utah, which is totally Republican dominated, where you can dress up a fire hydrant in a suit and state it's Republican and it will win.
Ha! Wyoming is more Repubican , Wyoming didnt even know John Kerry was debating ;D
As for your firehydrant reference rofl

[Rascal]

Online polls are more worthless then tits on a boar.

If you reference them in an argument, your argument is worthless it my not so freaking humble opinion.

[Hogan11]

SSSSsssssooooooo, where's that bump in the polls for W??

Ha!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

From the most Republican state in the nation, the polls this morning state that Kerry won by 72%. This is Utah, which is totally Republican dominated, where you can dress up a fire hydrant in a suit and state it's Republican and it will win.

ROFL!

:thumbsup:

[Hercules Rockefeller]

SSSSsssssooooooo, where's that bump in the polls for W??

Ha!


SSSSSsssssssooooo still waiting for JK to actually poll ahead for more then a day in these tracking polls. Too bad his bump from the first debate couldn't do that. Bush is up in 3 of the 4 daily polls, with the last one tied.

[Hogan11]

SSSSSsssssssooooo still waiting for JK to actually poll ahead for more then a day in these tracking polls. Too bad his bump from the first debate couldn't do that. Bush is up in 3 of the 4 daily polls, with the last one tied.

Of course he is........you'd dismiss it out of hand if he weren't.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Of course he is........you'd dismiss it out of hand if he weren't.


Actually I wouldn't, but since all you can do is "dismiss" points or people you don't believe, there's really no point in arguing with you. Bush consistently polls ahead still, Kerry gets an occasional national poll and maybe a day or so in a tracking poll, that's it.

The map still favors Bush and so do the national polls, until that changes he's got a better shot at re-election then Kerry does of winning.

[Hogan11]

Actually I wouldn't, but since all you can do is "dismiss" points or people you don't believe, there's really no point in arguing with you. Bush consistently polls ahead still, Kerry gets an occasional national poll and maybe a day or so in a tracking poll, that's it.

The map still favors Bush and so do the national polls, until that changes he's got a better shot at re-election then Kerry does of winning.

Panic really doesn't become you Herc. The increasingly harsh vitriol against Kerry and the DNC shows you're more worried about W's chances than you let on.....and that's okay really, because you're far from alone in that dept.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Haven't been to check the polls yet today, but I heard on the radio that one of them had Kerry ahead by 8.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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