OT: Sox choking already!

[WaffleBoy]

Curt is already looking like a goat. 6 runs allowed already? I was hoping Boston would come out strong, but it seems like the curse is already in progress.

The Boy Wonder ;)

[watermock]

My twinks had them on the ropes and they escaped. A Rod blew me up.

The Sox only hope was that the Twinks blew up the Yanks. They don't match up against New York whatsoever.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I spent three years traveling to the Boston area almost weekly. I hate those people. What a bunch of whining jerks. I think we should pay canada to annex New England so we don't have to listen to them anymore. The yankees have only one thing going for them - they aren't from Boston. Hope boston goes down in 4 and the yankees go down in 4 to who ever in the NL.

[watermock]

It's so typical Boston whining. They have an NFL team that has won 19 straight and still find a way to complain.

[Northman]

The Red Sox suck but i still hate the Wankys.

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18 up and 18 down for Moose.

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19.

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Bellhorn breaks it up with a double off the wall.

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SOB looked like crap all year on my roto team, but he's frigging Bob Feller tonight.

[Clockwork Orange]

Sox have a 3 spot thus far in the 7th.

Never say never.

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Now, he looks like the Moose I remember running out there all year.

[Clockwork Orange]

Varitek launches one.

8-5 now. We've got ourselves a ballgame again.

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Well, someone is choking right now.

Looks like the Yankees are going to need Rivera tonight after all.

[Evenrude]

Those two runs Wakefield let in hurt like hell right now..... The Sox are bringing up the right part of the order though......

[Clockwork Orange]

Silver sombraro for Damon. Waving at breaking balls all night.

[Clockwork Orange]

Ortiz at the plate with a chance to tie the game with one swing.

[Clockwork Orange]

2 run triple for Ortiz and it's 8-7.

Just missed a HR by a couple of feet.

[Clockwork Orange]

Rivera gets out of it. Sox were that close to tying it up.

[Clockwork Orange]

2 on, 1 out and Matsui at the plate. Godzilla has 5 RBI's tonight and is 3 for 3 with runners in scoring position.

Sox can't let them push another run across if they want to have a chance to tie it up with Rivera on the mound in the 9th.

[Clockwork Orange]

Bernie Williams with the dagger. 2 run double to make it 10-7.

[phillybroncosnut]

Fuggin Timlin.

Who said the Sox don't match up well with the Yankthese? Mock? Boston won the season series bro.

Sox will still take this series in 7. Schilling had zero tonight and I have no clue why. I don't think he hit 90 MPH all night. Worse then his velocity was his control (or lack thereof). Power pitchers have to hit their spots. Curt was way off tonight. Unless he is injured, he will be back and he will win game 4 and game 7.

I wonder if Ruth gave a big blow at ortiz's shot in the 8th to knock it down from going over the wall?

[phillybroncosnut]

Come on baby. 1st and 2nd 1 out in the 9th. Lil hit here, lil hit there, and a big fly.

God, why did the Sox dig such a big hole early? FUG

[phillybroncosnut]

Fug. Aww well.

The Sox will take games 2,4,6, and 7.

[WaffleBoy]

Red Sox ace choked. Thus, they lost. End of story.

The Boy Wonder ;)

[Hogan11]

Doesn't matter who wins this...they are going down to the Cards in the WS.

I hate to say that because I hate them with a passion, but I've seen them numerous times this season and they're a totally complete ballclub if'n ever there was one....plus I'm an NL guy........bias? Look at the W/L records.....you were saying??

[PatsWin2002]

Fuggin Timlin.

Who said the Sox don't match up well with the Yankthese? Mock? Boston won the season series bro.

Sox will still take this series in 7. Schilling had zero tonight and I have no clue why. I don't think he hit 90 MPH all night. Worse then his velocity was his control (or lack thereof). Power pitchers have to hit their spots. Curt was way off tonight. Unless he is injured, he will be back and he will win game 4 and game 7.

I wonder if Ruth gave a big blow at ortiz's shot in the 8th to knock it down from going over the wall?


My boys fought back valiantly tonight. The injury to Schilling's ankle in the Anaheim series is just the kind of thing that NY gets a break on. The poor guy had to get shot up with anesthetic before the game. Lucky for NY - as usual.

If Curt is himself, we win this one. We waited out Mussina like they do to Pedro - it was good to see.

And we get to Rivera now (never used to).

I've always liked Bernie Williams BTW. His final RBIs kept me from thinking about why Ortiz's hit fell short by a foot and remembering how if Manny plays that ball clean in the first inning that 2nd run doesn't score.

[PatsWin2002]

Look at the W/L records.....you were saying??

The Cards wouldn't have gotten a sniff of 100 games in our division.

They'll be a handful though.

[phillybroncosnut]

Doesn't matter who wins this...they are going down to the Cards in the WS.

I hate to say that because I hate them with a passion, but I've seen them numerous times this season and they're a totally complete ballclub if'n ever there was one....plus I'm an NL guy........bias? Look at the W/L records.....you were saying??


Gawd, anyone but the Cardinals. I hate that team as much as i hate the Raiders.
I think Houston wins that series though. They have the pitching to keep the Cards bats down to about 4 runs a game.

[phillybroncosnut]

Red Sox ace choked. Thus, they lost. End of story.

The Boy Wonder ;)


Waffle my son. It wasn't a chioke dude. Schill doesn't choke. Never has never will.
He just didnt have his A game. Chit, he didn't even have his D game. That happens to the best of the best sometimes.

[phillybroncosnut]

The Cards wouldn't have gotten a sniff of 100 games in our division.

They'll be a handful though.

Pats, I'm a sox fan as well but the Cards are a freaking dominate squad dude.

[FADERPROOF]

Doesn't matter who wins this...they are going down to the Cards in the WS.

I hate to say that because I hate them with a passion, but I've seen them numerous times this season and they're a totally complete ballclub if'n ever there was one....plus I'm an NL guy........bias? Look at the W/L records.....you were saying??

I think you're forgetting that STL has to get past Houston first.

If Houston splits in STL, they'll win the series and head to the WS.

[PatsWin2002]

Waffle my son. It wasn't a chioke dude. Schill doesn't choke. Never has never will.
He just didnt have his A game. Chit, he didn't even have his D game. That happens to the best of the best sometimes.

He has a bum ankle!

That's it. He got shot up before the game but couldn't generate his usual power because it's his pushoff foot.

Cursed?

It sure is statistical nonsense as to how, why, and when this stuff happens.

[Hogan11]

I think you're forgetting that STL has to get past Houston first.

If Houston splits in STL, they'll win the series and head to the WS.

That's a big "if" Den......personally, I think they're twice the club that the Yanks,Sox or Astros are......until proven otherwise, I'll stand by that.

[phillybroncosnut]

He has a bum ankle!

That's it. He got shot up before the game but couldn't generate his usual power because it's his pushoff foot.

Cursed?

It sure is statistical nonsense as to how, why, and when this stuff happens.


Pats, I know he has a bum ankle but i am praying it was somehow rust and not the injury. If it was in fact the ankle, the Sox are done. Schill hadn't pitched in a week. Hopefully, the ankle would have healed enough to not give him any problems.
Gawd I hope his ankle didn't cause this debacle tonight. If it did, the sox are toast.
If the ankle didn't heal up enough in 7 days, it sure as hell won't heal with Schill pitching games 4 and 7 on 3 days rest.

[phillybroncosnut]

That's a big "if" Den......personally, I think they're twice the club that the Yanks,Sox or Astros are......until proven otherwise, I'll stand by that.


Hogan, I know season series don't mean chit when it comes to post season but the Stros took the season series from the Cards.
I would say that all 4 (Sox, Cards, Yanks, and Stros) are all pretty even in talent. Some have better lineups while others have better pitching. Clearly, no one is "Twice the club" as the others.

[Hogan11]

Hogan, I know season series don't mean chit when it comes to post season but the Stros took the season series from the Cards.
I would say that all 4 (Sox, Cards, Yanks, and Stros) are all pretty even in talent. Some have better lineups while others have better pitching. Clearly, no one is "Twice the club" as the others.

The Pirates took the season series against the Cards...they even swept a three game series against them when I was at PNC Park back in June......point being, you're right...the season series means nothing.
I don't believe in the Stros..sorry, I just don't......and given the matchup against the Yanks or Sox, the Cards are clearly better.......hey, I don't like it either....but better them than Boston or NY IMO.

[-Slap-]

Immutable Rule of the Baseball Universe: The Red Sox will lose in whichever fashion brings the most pain to the collective psyche of their fans.

This year they have two options:

1 - Another gut wrenching loss to the hated Yankees.

2 - A Game Seven loss to Roger Clemens.

http://images.sportsline.com/u/gettyimages/photos/51439256RM001_Braves_Astros101013_lower.jpg

Sometimes I feel the tiniest shred of sympathy for Red Sox fans, but then I remember that Celtics fans are among the worst people on Earth.

[FADERPROOF]

That's a big "if" Den......personally, I think they're twice the club that the Yanks,Sox or Astros are......until proven otherwise, I'll stand by that.

It will be tough, but a 1-1 series coming back to Houston with Clemens and Oswalt on the mound puts Houston in the drivers seat.

[phillybroncosnut]

There is only one explanation for the Celtic fan comment Slap... You are either a Lakers fan or a sixer fan.
Only a Faker fan or ****xer fan would hate the celtics that much.

[FADERPROOF]

There is only one explanation for the Celtic fan comment Slap... You are either a Lakers fan or a sixer fan.
Only a Faker fan or ****xer fan would hate the celtics that much.

They employ Gary Payton, I say that's a valid reason for anyone to hate them.

[phillybroncosnut]

They employ Gary Payton, I say that's a valid reason for anyone to hate them.


I have to say, as a C's fan, I hate that signing too. What the fug is Ainge thinking?

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There is only one explanation for the Celtic fan comment Slap... You are either a Lakers fan or a sixer fan.
Only a Faker fan or ****xer fan would hate the celtics that much.

I guess it was growing up listening to all those Laker telecasts from Boston Garden. Underneath Chick Hearn's voice, but clearly audible, comments like, "Alcindor, you f___ing n__gah!"

[phillybroncosnut]

I guess it was growing up listening to all those Laker telecasts from Boston Garden. Underneath Chick Hearn's voice, but clearly audible, comments like, "Alcindor, you f___ing n__gah!"

Come on man, you hear that in every city, state, country. Hell, at least C fans were consistent. Unfortunately, they gave the same treatment to Bill Russell.

[FADERPROOF]

Come on man, you hear that in every city, state, country. Hell, at least C fans were consistent. Unfortunately, they gave the same treatment to Bill Russell.

Yes. all cities have part of that, but it's the Boston celtic fans that are infamous for it.

Several journalists have came out and said that they've been a bit scared at celtic games because of all the racial slurs that they've yelled.

[Clockwork Orange]

Then there's the infamous, "wifebeater" chants aimed at Jason Kidd from the Boston crowd.

I'm willing to bet that at least a few of the guys in that crowd were casting those stones from the front yard of their glass house.

[FADERPROOF]

Then there's the infamous, "wifebeater" chants aimed at Jason Kidd from the Boston crowd.

I'm willing to bet that at least a few of the guys in that crowd were casting those stones from the front yard of their glass house.

Especially chanting that after their own columnist Bob Ryan made those remarks about slapping her.

There's a reason why so many journalists have been worried about covering that game, and why many opposing players tell their families to not go to the games in Boston.

[bendog]

Immutable Rule of the Baseball Universe: The Red Sox will lose in whichever fashion brings the most pain to the collective psyche of their fans.

This year they have two options:

1 - Another gut wrenching loss to the hated Yankees.

2 - A Game Seven loss to Roger Clemens.

http://images.sportsline.com/u/gettyimages/photos/51439256RM001_Braves_Astros101013_lower.jpg

Sometimes I feel the tiniest shred of sympathy for Red Sox fans, but then I remember that Celtics fans are among the worst people on Earth.

IMO a third valid option would be a game seven loss to the Cards, since it would be a repeat of 1967. Sort of reinforce the curse myth.

1 would just make them more bitter. 2. would be the most devasting emotionally. 3. more in line with the cosmic curse... sort of a dopplinger thing.

But, I'd rather see any team beat the yankees.

[PatsWin2002]

IMO a third valid option would be a game seven loss to the Cards, since it would be a repeat of 1967. Sort of reinforce the curse myth.

1 would just make them more bitter. 2. would be the most devasting emotionally. 3. more in line with the cosmic curse... sort of a dopplinger thing.

But, I'd rather see any team beat the yankees.

It would be a repeat of 1946 AND 1967.

It's nice to know that others are tired of the Bankees and their $200 million payroll.

If we don't beat them this year, we're screwed. They're gonna BUY EVERYBODY this offseason. They have a huge farm system and nobody left in it to trade. It's a good thing they have a bottomless well full of money. :tearhair:

[bendog]

I don't mind the redsox. My bosses are african americans who don't like fat white guys, like me. It's life. Folks like that are everywhere, in every line of work. So, you live in Mass, what are you supposed to do, quit being a baseball or basketball fan cause of other people?

However, I can't take the nba: it's all gangstah body contact one on one slam dunk

And baseball: even if the rox owners weren't jerks, the lack of salary cap is egregious. I'm with Slap being mroe a dodgers fan than anything, and their new ownership makes it less difficult to follow the team.

[PatsWin2002]

I'm with Slap being mroe a dodgers fan than anything, and their new ownership makes it less difficult to follow the team.

Frank McCourt is a good (Boston) guy.

He was part of that fiasco a few years ago to get the Patriots new stadium onto his waterfront property in South Boston. The residents there fought like hell to have it stopped.

When he didn't get in on the sale of the Red Sox, he went and bought the Dodgers.

[PatsWin2002]

The Yankees have been spared yet again.

Schilling has a dislocated tendon and will need surgery (eventually).

They will try to stabilize the tendon to get him through the postseason, but hey if something good doesn't happen for NY then it only makes sense that something bad has to happen to us.

Unbelievable.

:moon:

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And baseball: even if the rox owners weren't jerks, the lack of salary cap is egregious. I'm with Slap being mroe a dodgers fan than anything, and their new ownership makes it less difficult to follow the team.

I grew up a Dodger fan, but I dropped them in the early 80s. Now I'm mainly just a baseball fan. I was pulling for a Freeway Series because I know I could have scored free tickets from a friend of mine in LA.

[FADERPROOF]

I don't mind the redsox. My bosses are african americans who don't like fat white guys, like me. It's life. Folks like that are everywhere, in every line of work. So, you live in Mass, what are you supposed to do, quit being a baseball or basketball fan cause of other people?

However, I can't take the nba: it's all gangstah body contact one on one slam dunk

And baseball: even if the rox owners weren't jerks, the lack of salary cap is egregious. I'm with Slap being mroe a dodgers fan than anything, and their new ownership makes it less difficult to follow the team.

I'm anxious to see what DePosta has in store for the Dodgers offseason.

Beltre has to be signed back, we lose him and we lose our chances next year. Also some MR help is needed along with another bat in the line-up.

[WaffleBoy]

Sox choked again! No way the Yankees pitching staff is this good. 1918 is in full progress.

The Boy Wonder ;)