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Rascal
09-21-2004, 08:44 AM
This was on the Fox website but an AP story so take your fix news comments and shove it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132988,00.html

Report: Kerry Fund-Raisers Met With South Korean Spy
Tuesday, September 21, 2004

WASHINGTON — A South Korean man who met with John Kerry's fund-raisers to discuss creating a new political group for Korean-Americans was an intelligence agent for his country, raising concerns among some U.S. officials that either he or his government may have tried to influence this fall's election.

South Korean officials and U.S. officials told The Associated Press that Chung Byung-Man (search), a consular officer in Los Angeles, actually worked for South Korea's National Intelligence Service.

A spokesman for the South Korean consulate office said Chung was sent home in May amid "speculation" he became involved with the Kerry campaign and Democratic Party through contacts with fund-raiser Rick Yi (search) and that his identity couldn't be discussed further.

"According to international tradition, we cannot identify, we cannot say who he is, because he is intelligence people," spokesman Min Ryu said.

The State Department said it has discussed Chung's reported activities with the South Korean government and has no reason to doubt Seoul's representations he was an intelligence agent.

The department believes Chung's contacts with donors and fund-raisers, if accurately described in reports, were "inconsistent" with the 1963 Vienna Convention that prohibits visiting foreign officials from interfering in the internal politics and affairs of host countries, a spokesman for its legal affairs office said.


Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton said the campaign did not know Chung was an intelligence agent or that Yi, one of the campaign's key fund-raisers in the Asian-American community, was meeting with him until it was brought to light by the AP.

The AP first reported this spring that Yi and other Kerry fund-raisers and donors had met with Chung, but at the time Chung was only identified as a diplomat. Yi resigned from the Kerry campaign after the story, and Kerry returned $4,000 in donations he had solicited because of concerns about their origins.

AP was alerted to the meetings and Chung's identity as an intelligence agent by Democratic donors and fund-raisers who said they were uncomfortable with the activities.

A South Korean government official in Seoul and two longtime U.S. officials in Washington, both speaking on condition of anonymity because Chung's intelligence work is classified, told AP that Chung worked for South Korea's NIS, the country's CIA equivalent.

The U.S. officials said Chung had registered with the Justice Department as a friendly foreign intelligence agent on U.S. soil, and that his activities had raised concern he or his government had tried to influence the fall presidential election through "extracurricular activities."

The FBI has not begun a formal counterintelligence investigation because Chung left the United States in May, the officials said.

The NIS dismissed any suggestion the South Korean government tried to influence American politics as a "totally groundless rumor and all fiction."

South Korea has been frustrated over the deadlock in talks on North Korea's nuclear activities, while at the same facing the Bush administration's planned withdrawal of thousands of U.S. troops from the tense region. One expert said Chung's actions were consistent with Seoul's concerns with the Bush administration even if he didn't get a direct order.

"It is certainly possible that these actions would not reflect an order from the top but rather point to the unaccountability of a rather high-ranking officer to pursue their own agenda or what they perceive to be the agenda of their superiors," said Nicholas Eberstadt, a researcher at the American Enterprise Institute.

"But, nonetheless, this sort of intervention certainly provides a faithful reflection of the general attitude of Roh Moo-hyun's administration toward the presidential race," Eberstadt said. "There's an awful lot of people in this (South Korean) government who can't stand the Bush administration and would love to see Bush lose."

South Korean officials said Yi and Chung had known each other for some time. Before moving to Los Angeles, Chung worked in South Korea's consular offices in Atlanta, where Yi was working for a high-tech company.

Yi had worked in the Clinton White House as a military attache, and eventually went into business in the Atlanta area with the son of disgraced former South Korean president Chun Doo-hwan. Yi began raising money for Kerry in 2003 and raised about $500,000 for Democratic causes.

Yi told AP that he met with Chung at least three times in California to discuss starting a political action group for Korean-Americans. "He contacted me to ask me to help him set up a Korean-American Leadership Council," Yi said, adding he turned down the offer because he was too busy.

Before the discussions with Chung in California, Yi had started a Korean-American political group in the Atlanta area called the Pacific Democratic Alliance, according to incorporation papers filed in March 2002 with the state of Georgia.

South Korean officials said Yi asked Chung to help introduce him to Korean-Americans in California as Yi began fund-raising in the state. Chung made some personal introductions but never directly solicited political donations, Ryu said.

A leader in Los Angeles' large Korean-American community who met with Yi and Chung said it was common knowledge within the community that Chung worked for intelligence.

"He's coming from the intelligence, I know it, what we call the Korean CIA. ... It's not secret," said Kee Whan Ha, president of the Korean American Federation of Los Angeles and a donor to both Kerry and Republican candidates.

Ha said Yi solicited him once for a $25,000 donation while Chung was present.

"Mr. Chung actually (did) nothing to encourage any money from me. Because he knows even though he tries hard on me I'm not going to listen," Ha said. "I don't have to listen. I have no business with the Korean government. ... So he was kind of quiet at the meeting."

Yi told those at the meeting that he held a high position in the Kerry campaign and "since he has good connections, if the Korean community (is) helping him then he can help the Korean community," Ha said.

patteeu
09-21-2004, 09:22 AM
All these international leaders, foreign intelligence officials and terrorist organizations can't be wrong can they? If they think JFKerry would be a better president than GWBush, maybe I should reconsider my vote. hmmm...

Rohirrim
09-21-2004, 10:21 AM
Funny. I didn't see any posts about Bush appointees giving intelligence to Israel. Oh well.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-21-2004, 09:22 PM
Ha ha ha.

Looks like rascal is practicing for a Karl Rove internship interview or something.

watermock
09-21-2004, 09:51 PM
To me it looks like Ro has gone LABF with cut and paste cartoons.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-22-2004, 03:37 AM
So he met with Kerry just like Bush met with Prince Bandar of Saudi "We Finance al-Qaeda" Arabia, two days after 9-11?

So he met with Kerry just like Bush met with Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia--yeah, the guy who got to see the top secret "No Foreign" plans for Bush's invasion of Iraq in Cheney's office? Seems from the article snippet that the Korean met with "fund raisers" and not Kerry himself. So, the big deal is what then?

Katrina Leung, Rethug fundraiser and spy for China, anyone?

Jujitsu politics - Kerry campaign should flip the issue back on Bush, ala "speaking of spies, why hasn't Bush sanctioned the WH staffer who outed Valerie Plame?"

Can even the whores of the press do a third rerun of "Dems are evil traitor spies" without holding their collective noses?

Come ON people! The same smear three elections running, and the man he's running against has a solid BLOCK of RELATIVES pimping for Communist China? How big a whore can you be, and continue to parade yourself in public as "fair and balanced"?

BTW, what's going on with the Valerie Plame investigation? Has the WH turned over the name of the person who revealed her identity?

Shouldn't the media be taking Bush to task and asking him to recuse himself from appointing a head for the CIA because he's still harboring the person who revealed Plame's identity and destroyed a huge part of our overseas intelligence operations?

Anyway, as for the S. Korea story, this is so old.

Do a Google search and all the hits are like, from JUNE. The only thing new in the story is that he was NIS (their version of the CIA) - but some of the stories even say that he registered as a friendly agent to the U.S. -- and that most people knew who and what he was, particularly since he worked for the SK govt.

Bottomline, this was back in June, not such a coincidence that it's reappearing now that polls are tightening once again, and in the aftermath of the Rather/CBS AWOL letter deal.

One bright spot - much like the Clinton smear of asian associations, and fundraising by GOP pissed Asian Americans off to high heaven, this may do the same thing to the Chimp.

They know they are being used.

They know what the Rethugs did to the innocent Los Alamos scientist, to try and bring Clinton down as well -- this is just one more instance of painting some asians as the diabolical 'other,' meanwhile brother Nick goes around taking their money for his businesses and schtupping Asian prostitutes.

patteeu
09-22-2004, 05:19 AM
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Shouldn't the media be taking Bush to task and asking him to recuse himself from appointing a head for the CIA because he's still harboring the person who revealed Plame's identity and destroyed a huge part of our overseas intelligence operations?
...

LMAO. I give you extra credit for sprinkling your deflection attempt with a healthy dose of monumental exageration.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-22-2004, 05:49 AM
LMAO. I give you extra credit for sprinkling your deflection attempt with a healthy dose of monumental exageration.

Deflection?

You must have missed the part of my post that dealt directly with the S. Korea non-story.

Exaggeration?

You mean bush has given up the traitor in his WH?

Do fill us in on the details.

patteeu
09-22-2004, 07:23 AM
Deflection?

You must have missed the part of my post that dealt directly with the S. Korea non-story.

Exaggeration?

You mean bush has given up the traitor in his WH?

Do fill us in on the details.

The best kind of deflection is when you begin your post on-topic and then throw in enough off-topic BS that you draw others into a tangential discussion.

Did you have anything more to say about Kerry's flirtations with foreign intelligence services?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-22-2004, 07:08 PM
The best kind of deflection is when you begin your post on-topic and then throw in enough off-topic BS that you draw others into a tangential discussion.

Not tangential in the least. The subject is treason, so why not include acts of treason by the bush misadministration?

Isn't your side all about "fair and balanced?"

Did you have anything more to say about Kerry's flirtations with foreign intelligence services?

Do you have anything to say about my remarks about this subject in post #6?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-22-2004, 07:11 PM
The best kind of deflection is when you begin your post on-topic and then throw in enough off-topic BS that you draw others into a tangential discussion.

Like the deflection from bush's ANG service (or lack thereof) to the CBS documents?

Gotcha.

When it comes to deflection, the folks you're backing are the uncontested masters.

watermock
09-22-2004, 07:18 PM
As an officer still under reserve, Kerry could of been shot as a Traitor for discussing matters with the Viet Cong while Kissinger was at the table. That's bottom line and doens't need Microsoft Word.

watermock
09-22-2004, 07:20 PM
Do you really want to bring up Clinton's Oil and Food to suck dick agreement with North Korea?

watermock
09-22-2004, 07:25 PM
Valerie Plame was as undercover as Wonder Woman.

It's so funny. She was as undercover as a cheap 30 dollar whore.

watermock
09-22-2004, 07:27 PM
It's allready been established she wasn't even close to being a "clandestine operative"in Diplomatic Circles.

Go sit in the corner.

watermock
09-22-2004, 07:29 PM
Let's talk about Mr. Burkett again and have some real fun.

watermock
09-22-2004, 07:33 PM
Those documents are totally worthless at this point.

What the hell is wrong with you?

I have allready posted Bush's Honorable Dicharge Papers. Your papers are held in a triangle of corruption between CBS, Burkett, and Lockett.

I suggest you clean your house at this point you dimwits.