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Rascal
09-15-2004, 06:36 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132405,00.html

WASHINGTON — A veteran who testified to John Kerry (search) about atrocities he committed in the Vietnam War (search) is now claiming that the Democratic presidential candidate coerced him to tell tales.

Steven Pitkin, an Army combat veteran, told FOX News that Kerry coached him and others to say they had witnessed war crimes, even after Pitkin told Kerry that he had not.

"Before they started the camera, they told me, 'We need you to speak about the atrocities that happened over there.' The whole company line that I initially came out and said, I was coached to say that over and over again," Pitkin said.

Kerry's former brother-in-law, David Thorne, attended that Winter Soldier investigation, in which more than 100 Vietnam veterans told anti-war activists that they had either committed or witnessed unspeakable war crimes. Thorne flatly denied Pitkin's charges.

"Kerry never forced anyone to testify to war crimes in any way. [Kerry] went to Winter Soldier to listen to what they had to say and to investigate for himself," Thorne said.

Kerry collected the testimony ahead of his appearance during a 1971 hearing in front of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on widespread atrocities against Vietnamese civilians. He has said the graphic testimony he gave was merely a repetition of testimony combat veterans told him.

Rohirrim
09-15-2004, 06:41 AM
Another Fox News Exclusive!!!

(Here's how it works. Find some old, drunk Vietnam veteran, slip him a few bucks, clean him up a little, get him to smear Kerry - the smear content really doesn't matter, it's the act of airing it that does the damage - and lead with the story in the hopes that a reputable network will pick it up and therefore, give it the kind of credibility that Fox News couldn't hope to generate. Oh, and keep Geraldo away from it. It's called the "Murdoch Method", and it's worked in Britain for years).

Rascal
09-15-2004, 07:15 AM
Here is something I've heard before from many liberals on this board...

"discredit the article, not the messenger."

But then I guess I wouldn't have expected you to be hypocritical or anything.

bendog
09-15-2004, 07:37 AM
Curious. We are bogged down in Iraq. We are not going to see a democracy. Sadr is outside the elections, and we promised Sistani democracy but we won't back one person on vote, so a shiite insurgeency will continue. The sunnis aren't buying in, in fact they appear to be holding their own in falalalala. and the Kurds just want out. Even the admin is just looking to bail. We don't have bin laden. The deficit has exploded, and taxes will have to rise. And the debate is over whether BushII served in the guard.

Man Kerry sucks. LOL

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-16-2004, 05:14 AM
Curious. We are bogged down in Iraq. We are not going to see a democracy. Sadr is outside the elections, and we promised Sistani democracy but we won't back one person on vote, so a shiite insurgeency will continue. The sunnis aren't buying in, in fact they appear to be holding their own in falalalala. and the Kurds just want out. Even the admin is just looking to bail. We don't have bin laden. The deficit has exploded, and taxes will have to rise. And the debate is over whether BushII served in the guard.

Man Kerry sucks. LOL

If Faux News keeps drooling dullards like rascal focused on the Swift Boat Goons for Bush then they won't notice those other pesky realities you described, dawg.

It's BushCorp's only campaign "strategery" (given the huge mess Junior has made of things.)

Rascal
09-16-2004, 07:04 AM
Resort to name calling LABF. It's what you do best.

Keep on spinning and backpeddling guys. You will get that doctorate soon enough.

But here's a thought...why not address the article rather then attacking me or Bush?

BRILLIANT!!

bendog
09-16-2004, 07:11 AM
If Faux News keeps drooling dullards like rascal focused on the Swift Boat Goons for Bush then they won't notice those other pesky realities you described, dawg.

It's BushCorp's only campaign "strategery" (given the huge mess Junior has made of things.)

Well that stragegy seems to be kicking Kerry's butt. Kerry's an idiot. God help the troops.

watermock
09-16-2004, 07:26 AM
If Faux News keeps drooling dullards like rascal focused on the Swift Boat Goons for Bush then they won't notice those other pesky realities you described, dawg.

It's BushCorp's only campaign "strategery" (given the huge mess Junior has made of things.)

At least the Swift Boats will go on camera and represent their views, which they are entitled to. SeeBS won't even reveal who typed up that forgery.

If the Democrats want to trot out someone to tell us Bush was AWOL and a Coward, then trot him out!

Why the cloak and dagger routine there Danny? Bring out your source and a credible document, or at least some hack that will their face to the public.

What part of this amusement isn't LABF getting? You don't have a witness, and you have forged documents. Noone is daring to go in front of the camera whatsoever.

So the next time you cry about actual Veterans that say Kerry was a political tool that wanted his medals and the fastest way out of town, you might remember that they gave NAME RANK AND SERIAL NUMBER.

Dan Rather says the documents are fake but authentic and can't even produce a human being besides a senile 86 year old secretary.