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freak6
08-12-2004, 09:14 AM
Bush blew it, thanks for playing.

Republicans 0

Liberals 1

ha haaaaa

Exile_In_SJ
08-12-2004, 12:37 PM
and now from our second grade class we present freak15 with his abc's

RaiderH8r
08-12-2004, 12:43 PM
Bush blew it, thanks for playing.

Republicans 0

Liberals 1

ha haaaaa
Correction...Monica blew it.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-12-2004, 03:43 PM
Correction...Monica blew it.

There's that famous republican fixation on Clinton's wiener again.

They should probably seek counseling for this sort of thing.

RaiderH8r
08-13-2004, 07:22 AM
Correction...Monica blew it.

There's that famous republican fixation on Clinton's wiener again.

They should probably seek counseling for this sort of thing.
She did blow it. Man, it's a pun, a joke. Take the stick out of your a$$ and lighten up.

freak6
08-13-2004, 09:23 AM
All I want is one single republican or otherwise, to tell me why Bush should be rehired after doing NOTHING after recieving the August 6th PDB.

Still waiting.

BTW- Condi lied under OATH, and should be tried for perjury.

RICE: I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."

August 6th PDB- NEVERTHELESS, FBI information SINCE that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity IN this COUNTRY consistent with PREPARATIONS for HIJACKINGS or other types of ATTACKS, including RECENT surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

RICE: It did NOT warn of ATTACKS inside the United States. It was historical information based on old reporting. There was NO NEW THREAT information. And it did NOT, in fact, WARN of any coming ATTACKS INside the United States.

Rohirrim
08-13-2004, 11:14 AM
Yeah, Monica blew it - but he didn't come - or was that inhale? rofl

freak6
09-13-2004, 01:03 PM
All I want is one single republican or otherwise, to tell me why Bush should be rehired after doing NOTHING after recieving the August 6th PDB.

Still waiting.

BTW- Condi lied under OATH, and should be tried for perjury.

RICE: I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."

August 6th PDB- NEVERTHELESS, FBI information SINCE that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity IN this COUNTRY consistent with PREPARATIONS for HIJACKINGS or other types of ATTACKS, including RECENT surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

RICE: It did NOT warn of ATTACKS inside the United States. It was historical information based on old reporting. There was NO NEW THREAT information. And it did NOT, in fact, WARN of any coming ATTACKS INside the United States.

RaiderH8r
09-13-2004, 01:18 PM
All I want is one single republican or otherwise, to tell me why Bush should be rehired after doing NOTHING after recieving the August 6th PDB.

Still waiting.

BTW- Condi lied under OATH, and should be tried for perjury.

RICE: I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."

August 6th PDB- NEVERTHELESS, FBI information SINCE that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity IN this COUNTRY consistent with PREPARATIONS for HIJACKINGS or other types of ATTACKS, including RECENT surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

RICE: It did NOT warn of ATTACKS inside the United States. It was historical information based on old reporting. There was NO NEW THREAT information. And it did NOT, in fact, WARN of any coming ATTACKS INside the United States.
You're probably right. How could they not be shocked to find that middle eastern muslim extremists were plotting to hijack planes. Course we could round all people here illegally or on work visas or student visas and ship them back to wherever they came from.

Additionally, there was no actionable evidence to lead authorities to those directly responsible for the attacks. Are you saying you would like to prevent all middle eastern from boarding flights within the US? Shall we detain all of them based on general information? What action would you have taken based on your knowledge of the PDB in question?

Rohirrim
09-13-2004, 01:31 PM
You're probably right. How could they not be shocked to find that middle eastern muslim extremists were plotting to hijack planes. Course we could round all people here illegally or on work visas or student visas and ship them back to wherever they came from.

Additionally, there was no actionable evidence to lead authorities to those directly responsible for the attacks. Are you saying you would like to prevent all middle eastern from boarding flights within the US? Shall we detain all of them based on general information? What action would you have taken based on your knowledge of the PDB in question?

Actually, that's not true. Two of the attackers had been interrogated in the Phillippines and the FBI at that point had testimony from various sources that they were interested in flying aircraft. The two were released by Phillippine authorities after which, they returned to the U.S. and began their flying lessons. The FBI failed to follow up on the Phillippine evidence that was given them, and failed to keep tabs on the two who had been interrogated, and who ended up on the hijacked planes on 9/11.

Like Richard Clarke pointed out, had the President (or Rice) "shaken the tree" perhaps this evidence would have been linked to the August PDB (along with some other clues). As it was, Rice bowed out, knowing that Cheney was in charge of anti-terrorism and was in the process of putting together a plan to combat terrorism. He held the first meeting on this plan a few days before 9/11.

freak6
09-13-2004, 01:51 PM
Also, if you watched Russert with the 9/11 commission members friday night, they ALL noted that there were procedures that would have been initiated to step up the airport screening processes. If only they had been warned, just like the President was.

If you do not think this is actionable intelligence, then you don't deserve the air your brain uses to function.

NEVERTHELESS, FBI information SINCE that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity IN this COUNTRY consistent with PREPARATIONS for HIJACKINGS or other types of ATTACKS, including RECENT surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

Bottomline, Condi Rice even admitted that there was actionable information in the PDB, and that they acted on it. She then lied and said there was nothing for them to act on. She contradicted herself in her testimony over and over, and out and out lied.

RICE: It did NOT warn of ATTACKS inside the United States.

RICE: I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."

RICE: It did NOT warn of ATTACKS inside the United States.

August 6th PDB- NEVERTHELESS, FBI information SINCE that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity IN this COUNTRY consistent with PREPARATIONS for HIJACKINGS or other types of ATTACKS, including RECENT surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

Perjury

freak6
09-13-2004, 02:24 PM
From the dressing down off CondiLIESA Rice

HAMILTON: And by our count here, there were some 100 meetings by the national security principals before the first meeting was held on terrorism, September 4. And General Shelton, who was chairman of the Joint Chiefs, said that terrorism had been pushed farther to the back burner.

Pathetic I must say.

What do you think about your actions to fight terrorism Mr. President??

"I wasn't on point, I didn't feel a sense of urgency, there are some things I wish we'd have done"

PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!

I'm sure that warms the hearts of all the victims, families, etc......

freak6
09-14-2004, 10:03 AM
Why did Bush say he would move heaven and earth to stop Hijackers from flying a plane into a building, but he wouldn't move heaven and earth to stop the Hijacking he was warned about in the AUGUST 6th PDB!!!

What difference does it make that he didn't know the plane was going into a building??

American lives are still in extreme danger if taken by AL Qaeda hijackers..duh.

Why didn't he do anything.

Let's ask the president...


"There are some things I wish we'd have done, I was not on point, I didn't feel that sense of urgency," said the Commander in Chief Bush.

"I look back on and realize is that we weren't on a war footing.The country was not on a war footing, and yet the enemy was at war with us."

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-14-2004, 06:35 PM
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watermock
09-14-2004, 09:32 PM
Wrong.

Listen Dimwits, the terrorists were allready in the country under CLINTONS watch.

It wasn't till January that Bush could even begin to look at terrorism.

Second, he was totally redoing the entire intelligence system.

You want to ask Bush if we got caught with our pants down?

What pisses me off is how you Dimwits act like he knew it was going to happen, it's a conspiracy, he laughed it off and other idiotic assertations.

Then he ran away, blah blah blah.

You don't think the Secret Service took his ass to a safe spot? He went to his bunker in Omaha. Cheney went to a seperate bunker near Camp David.

I am so angry with you Dimwits.

There were not hiding. They were in command and control bunkers dumbasses.

freak6
09-17-2004, 09:19 AM
Why did Bush say he would move heaven and earth to stop Hijackers from flying a plane into a building, but he wouldn't move heaven and earth to stop the Hijacking he was warned about in the AUGUST 6th PDB!!!

What difference does it make that he didn't know the plane was going into a building??

American lives are still in extreme danger if taken by AL Qaeda hijackers..duh.

Why didn't he do anything.

Let's ask the president...


"There are some things I wish we'd have done, I was not on point, I didn't feel that sense of urgency," said the Commander in Chief Bush.

patteeu
09-17-2004, 03:09 PM
Condolezza Rice was both consistent in her testimony and right about her assessment of the Aug. 6th PDB as far as I can tell. I haven't seen anything in this thread to change my mind.

When faced with a single, nonspecific threat among many, there was no reason why the Bush administration, without the benefit of hindsight, should have latched onto this particular threat over all the others that they deal with on a daily basis to apply extraordinary scrutiny and start shaking intelligence/law enforcement trees.

I have no problem with the August 6 PDB and the Bush response to it. What about the May 11 PDB? Shouldn't they have taken that one more seriously?

Besides:

...As it was, Rice bowed out, knowing that Cheney was in charge of anti-terrorism and was in the process of putting together a plan to combat terrorism. He held the first meeting on this plan a few days before 9/11.

Apparently, the terrorism issue was already being addressed when the Aug. 6th PDB hit the President's desk.

Raider Bill
09-17-2004, 04:36 PM
Stating that Middle East wacky muslim types were interested in hijacking airplanes is roughly equivalent to stating that a bear is interested in crapping in the woods.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-17-2004, 06:51 PM
Condolezza Rice was both consistent in her testimony and right about her assessment of the Aug. 6th PDB as far as I can tell. I haven't seen anything in this thread to change my mind.

Then you're just plain uninformed.

Kinda-sleaza was quoted as saying "we could never have envisioned anyone using aircraft as missles," or words to that effect when, in fact, both NORAD and the security forces at the G8 summit in Genoa were preparing for just such an eventuality earlier that same year.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-17-2004, 06:55 PM
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freak6
09-21-2004, 01:13 PM
[I] I have no problem with the August 6 PDB and the Bush response to it. What about the May 11 PDB? Shouldn't they have taken that one more seriously?[I]

Ask the President what he thought of his actions....

"There are some things I wish we'd have done, I was not on point, I didn't feel that sense of urgency," said the Commander in Chief Bush.

Why did Bush say he would move heaven and earth to stop Hijackers from flying a plane into a building, but he wouldn't move heaven and earth to stop the Hijacking he was warned about in the AUGUST 6th PDB!!!

What difference does it make that he didn't know the plane was going into a building??

American lives are still in extreme danger if taken by AL Qaeda hijackers..duh.

Why didn't he do anything.

Let's ask the president...



__________________

freak6
09-21-2004, 01:18 PM
Just to prove she perjured herself, read her testimony about the NEW INFORMATION, after Kerrey reads to her the explicit threat that Al Qaeda is in our country, and planning hijackings.

KERREY: this is what the August 6th memo said to the president: that the FBI indicates patterns of suspicious activity in the United States consistent with preparations for hijacking. That's the language of the memo that was briefed to the president on the 6th of August.

CONDI: And that was checked out and steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings.

But I thought "It did not warn of attacks"?? Isnt that right Condi???

CONDI: "It did not warn of attacks"

CONDI: "steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings"


Hold on, Hold on... I thought there was "no new threat information"

CONDI: "There was no new threat information".

Ok, but Why would "steps be taken" if this was a "historical document" with no new information"???

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES

CONDI: "This was not a threat report"

CONDI: "that was checked out and steps were taken to warn of hijackings."

CONDI: " I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States"."

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES

Mile High Shack
09-21-2004, 01:26 PM
Just to prove she perjured herself, read her testimony about the NEW INFORMATION, after Kerrey reads to her the explicit threat that Al Qaeda is in our country, and planning hijackings.

KERREY: this is what the August 6th memo said to the president: that the FBI indicates patterns of suspicious activity in the United States consistent with preparations for hijacking. That's the language of the memo that was briefed to the president on the 6th of August.

CONDI: And that was checked out and steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings.

But I thought "It did not warn of attacks"?? Isnt that right Condi???

CONDI: "It did not warn of attacks"

CONDI: "steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings"


Hold on, Hold on... I thought there was "no new threat information"

CONDI: "There was no new threat information".

Ok, but Why would "steps be taken" if this was a "historical document" with no new information"???

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES

CONDI: "This was not a threat report"

CONDI: "that was checked out and steps were taken to warn of hijackings."

CONDI: " I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States"."

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES


"yawning"..are you still here?

freak6
09-21-2004, 01:32 PM
It proves she lies. Would you care to debate that fact, or is your yawn an act of boredom because you know this is fact, and UNDEBATABLE??

Just to prove she perjured herself, read her testimony about the NEW INFORMATION, after Kerrey reads to her the explicit threat that Al Qaeda is in our country, and planning hijackings.

KERREY: this is what the August 6th memo said to the president: that the FBI indicates patterns of suspicious activity in the United States consistent with preparations for hijacking. That's the language of the memo that was briefed to the president on the 6th of August.

CONDI: And that was checked out and steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings.

But I thought "It did not warn of attacks"?? Isnt that right Condi

CONDI: "It did not warn of attacks"

CONDI: "steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings"


Hold on, Hold on... I thought there was "no new threat information"

CONDI: "There was no new threat information".

Ok, but Why would "steps be taken" if this was a "historical document" with "no new information"

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES

CONDI: "This was not a threat report"

CONDI: "that was checked out and steps were taken to warn of hijackings."

CONDI: " I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States"."

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES

Mile High Shack
09-21-2004, 01:34 PM
It proves she lies. Would you care to debate that fact, or is your yawn an act of boredom because you know this is fact, and UNDEBATABLE??

Just to prove she perjured herself, read her testimony about the NEW INFORMATION, after Kerrey reads to her the explicit threat that Al Qaeda is in our country, and planning hijackings.

KERREY: this is what the August 6th memo said to the president: that the FBI indicates patterns of suspicious activity in the United States consistent with preparations for hijacking. That's the language of the memo that was briefed to the president on the 6th of August.

CONDI: And that was checked out and steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings.

But I thought "It did not warn of attacks"?? Isnt that right Condi

CONDI: "It did not warn of attacks"

CONDI: "steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings"


Hold on, Hold on... I thought there was "no new threat information"

CONDI: "There was no new threat information".

Ok, but Why would "steps be taken" if this was a "historical document" with "no new information"

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES

CONDI: "This was not a threat report"

CONDI: "that was checked out and steps were taken to warn of hijackings."

CONDI: " I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States"."

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES


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freak6
09-22-2004, 02:24 PM
It proves she lies. Would you care to debate that fact, or is your yawn an act of boredom because you know this is fact, and UNDEBATABLE??

Just to prove she perjured herself, read her testimony about the NEW INFORMATION, after Kerrey reads to her the explicit threat that Al Qaeda is in our country, and planning hijackings.

KERREY: this is what the August 6th memo said to the president: that the FBI indicates patterns of suspicious activity in the United States consistent with preparations for hijacking. That's the language of the memo that was briefed to the president on the 6th of August.

CONDI: And that was checked out and steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings.

But I thought "It did not warn of attacks"?? Isnt that right Condi

CONDI: "It did not warn of attacks"

CONDI: "steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings"


Hold on, Hold on... I thought there was "no new threat information"

CONDI: "There was no new threat information".

Ok, but Why would "steps be taken" if this was a "historical document" with "no new information"

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES

CONDI: "This was not a threat report"

CONDI: "that was checked out and steps were taken to warn of hijackings."

CONDI: " I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States"."

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES

Mile High Shack
09-22-2004, 02:29 PM
Squuaawwwwwkkk

Bush Is Bad

freak6
09-22-2004, 02:35 PM
It proves she lies. Would you care to debate that fact, or is your yawn an act of boredom because you know this is fact, and UNDEBATABLE??

Just to prove she perjured herself, read her testimony about the NEW INFORMATION, after Kerrey reads to her the explicit threat that Al Qaeda is in our country, and planning hijackings.

KERREY: this is what the August 6th memo said to the president: that the FBI indicates patterns of suspicious activity in the United States consistent with preparations for hijacking. That's the language of the memo that was briefed to the president on the 6th of August.

CONDI: And that was checked out and steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings.

But I thought "It did not warn of attacks"?? Isnt that right Condi

CONDI: "It did not warn of attacks"

CONDI: "steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings"


Hold on, Hold on... I thought there was "no new threat information"

CONDI: "There was no new threat information".

Ok, but Why would "steps be taken" if this was a "historical document" with "no new information"

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES

CONDI: "This was not a threat report"

CONDI: "that was checked out and steps were taken to warn of hijackings."

CONDI: " I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States"."

LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES

Aww. look, theres my pet troll following me around again. You must have another busy day listening to Rush and getting FAT.

Mile High Shack
09-22-2004, 02:36 PM
seriously, can we get someone to cut down on the spam?

it's the same crap over and over and over again

there is no change in either post.

Spider
09-22-2004, 02:37 PM
Aug 6th PBD was a Historical Document ............ :~ohyah!:
Condi said so ..........

freak6
09-22-2004, 02:39 PM
lmao!!!

freak6
09-22-2004, 02:40 PM
Fact: Condi lied under oath.

I proved that with this thread.

Can anyone challenge this fact??

watermock
09-22-2004, 02:40 PM
Terrorists may hijack a plane.

Well no Shiat. You people are amazing.

Spider
09-22-2004, 02:42 PM
Terrorist hijacked me and my Pick up , Made me stay out all night long and Party chasing women , it was pure hell ..Nothing I could do though

Mile High Shack
09-22-2004, 02:42 PM
Fact: Condi lied under oath.

I proved that with this thread.

Can anyone challenge this fact??

no she didn't lie

she lied about that same as the definition of "is" I suppose

freak6
09-22-2004, 02:45 PM
That's not the point. There are 2 points.

1. Condi lied under oath.

2. Bush did nothing about these threats and admitted that he should have.

"There are some things I wish we'd have done"

"I wasn't on point"

"I didn't feel a sense of urgency"

Common throughout his entire life, he could have said that about every endeavour in his pathetic failure of a life.

Also, as the 9-11 commission reasserted, if Bush had done more about these threat reports and warnings, airport security would have been vastly increased and quite possibly the plot could have been foiled. We'll never know, but take the Presidents word over mine.

"There are some things I wish we'd have done"

"I wasn't on point"

"I didn't feel a sense of urgency"

Bush lied, Condi lied, Rummy lied, Cheney lied, Powell lied....

It goes on and on. They keep lieing and pulling the wool over ignorant americans heads who they scare into submission.

Mile High Shack
09-22-2004, 02:46 PM
"it depends of what your definition of "is" is"

freak6
09-22-2004, 02:47 PM
http://joi.ito.com/archives/2004/03/16/rumsfeld_faces_the_nation_and_stammers.html

watermock
09-22-2004, 02:49 PM
It's pretty funny how you manage to put one quote into three.

What did you expect Bush to say?

"I didn't do it"?

They all didn't understand the terrorist threat while Saddam had tried to assasinate Bush 1.

Maybe the new administration understands the terrorist threat just too well.

Spider
09-22-2004, 03:10 PM
"it depends of what your definition of "is" is"
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-22-2004, 05:34 PM
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freak6
09-24-2004, 01:09 PM
"My priority will be to find and capture or kill the terrorists before they get us," Kerry said.

"George Bush made Saddam Hussein the priority. I would have made Osama Bin Laden the priority. I will finish the job in Iraq and I will refocus our energies on the real war on terror.

watermock
09-24-2004, 01:33 PM
"George Bush made Saddam Hussein the priority. I would have made Osama Bin Laden the priority. I will finish the job in Iraq and I will refocus our energies on the real war on terror.

How amusing. Is he going to go into Pakistan? How is he going to "finish the job" in Iraq? Call France? Institute a Draft? What does he mean by "finish the job in Iraq". Want to explain that to the American Public. Hey, if he can "finish the job" mock will vote for him.

Unless it's his usual "finish the job routine" which is basically surrender from a historical perspective.

I bet his crazy wife uses a strapon. This guy is pathetic. We are going to have Ms. Heinz "finish the job" or what?

I find it amusing that when Bush goes before the UN that Kerry says that it was rediculous, yet that was his speech, not in those terms, but that he would bring our "allies" into the process at the very same time he has Denise Kerry trying to unseat the existing pro US Administration in Australia.

Isn't that odd to anyone but me?

freak6
09-24-2004, 01:39 PM
I would. Fk Pakistan. I don't trust them. I would give them an ultimatum. We certainly have every right to demand they go after him full force or stand back and let us do it. There is no reason for us to respect thier military or expect them to nab Osama. Bush should have done this a long time ago.

"Catch him by May 2003 or we are comng in after him"

Sept 2001, its been 3 years now. Pathetic. Since when does the USA bow down to fkn Pakistan?!?!?

Under W.

watermock
09-24-2004, 01:41 PM
Since there would be an uprising that would topple the government you dimwit. Mushareff can barely hang on as it is.

watermock
09-24-2004, 01:42 PM
And exactly what are we supposed to invade a nuclear power with....the Ladies VFW?

watermock
09-24-2004, 01:46 PM
We can bomb them to a glass pot but that isn't going to produce UBL.

We know where UBL is and hes neutralized like I said. The fish in the tank are right were we want them.

We have a pretty election, the Iraq government asks our help and we do a little house cleaning.

Trust me. That's all contingent on Bush being re-elected.

If Kerry is elected he will open up talks with the Islamic front and apoligize and offer up his last born to a burpa.

freak6
09-24-2004, 01:49 PM
It wouldn't be an invasion, it would be stand back and let us go get our guy. They wouldn't dare challenge us.

Who would we invade with?? The military wasting thier time in Iraq obvoiusly. That's what we should have done. You think Pakistan would have nuked us or something over Osama Bin Laden...Right.

Bush was secretly planning the war ion Iraq while we were in Afghanistan, which forced him to hold back troops from storming Afghan and bringing Osama's carcass out of the desert.

freak6
09-24-2004, 01:56 PM
*****We have a pretty election******

lmao

You are smoking that Bush

*****the Iraq government asks our help and we do a little house cleaning*****

We've been doing that, and while we are fkin them up, they just keep coming, and because it is the most dangerous type of war fighting, urban guerrilla, they can duck and hide to easily. Pretty Election... that is hilarous.

Meanwhile...Osama and his cronies are still planning attacks, they are not neutralized as you say, not in the least.

And by going into Iraq under complete HUBRIS (read the book IMPERIAL HUBRIS) we have done nothing but enbolden the terrorists. We have provided them motivation to spread and grow, a place to do it, and place to train, and have weakened our military substantially.

Iraq was the wrong war to fight, at the wrong time.

Bush is consistenly wrong. He is a liar, a thief, and a moron.

And he belittles the very best of his intelligence advisors, calling the NIE "guesswork".

watermock
09-24-2004, 02:02 PM
UBL isn't doing anything than giving fatwas from some mousehole in Pakistan.

It's not even an issue at this point.

freak6
09-24-2004, 02:05 PM
Oh really. What is your source that says that?

Did you not see that video of his right hand man last month?

freak6
09-24-2004, 02:07 PM
KERREY: this is what the August 6th memo said to the president: that the FBI indicates patterns of suspicious activity in the United States consistent with preparations for hijacking. That's the language of the memo that was briefed to the president on the 6th of August.

CONDI: And that was checked out and steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings.

But I thought "It did not warn of attacks"?? Isnt that right Condi

CONDI: "It did not warn of attacks"

CONDI: "steps were taken through FAA circulars to warn of hijackings"


Hold on, Hold on... I thought there was "no new threat information"

CONDI: "There was no new threat information".

Ok, but Why would "steps be taken" if this was a "historical document" with "no new information"

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CONDI: "This was not a threat report"

CONDI: "that was checked out and steps were taken to warn of hijackings."

CONDI: " I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States"."

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watermock
09-24-2004, 02:16 PM
The terrorists were obviously Bush's fault. Bush hijacked the planed with the assistance of Cori Rice.

The Japanese assisted with their Ginsu Knifes.

Yep, it was America's fault that crazy terrorists abducted 4 planes and flew them into the WTC and Pentagon.

Yep, we have noone to blame but ourselves. Really, how stupid could we be? Next thing you know, they will be using it as an an excuse to start a hopeless war on terrorism!

Doesn't everyone know that Islam is a peacefull religion?

patteeu
09-24-2004, 10:58 PM
*****We have a pretty election******

lmao

You are smoking that Bush

*****the Iraq government asks our help and we do a little house cleaning*****

We've been doing that, and while we are fkin them up, they just keep coming, and because it is the most dangerous type of war fighting, urban guerrilla, they can duck and hide to easily. Pretty Election... that is hilarous.

Meanwhile...Osama and his cronies are still planning attacks, they are not neutralized as you say, not in the least.

And by going into Iraq under complete HUBRIS (read the book IMPERIAL HUBRIS) we have done nothing but enbolden the terrorists. We have provided them motivation to spread and grow, a place to do it, and place to train, and have weakened our military substantially.

Iraq was the wrong war to fight, at the wrong time.

Bush is consistenly wrong. He is a liar, a thief, and a moron.

And he belittles the very best of his intelligence advisors, calling the NIE "guesswork".


I've seen you tout the NIE at least a couple of times lately. I know it fits in with your preferred reality, but aren't you the same guy who criticizes Bush for accepting intelligence reports regarding WMD in Iraq? What makes you think today's NIE is any more accurate than the version upon which we went to war?

patteeu
09-24-2004, 10:59 PM
We can bomb them to a glass pot but that isn't going to produce UBL.

We know where UBL is and hes neutralized like I said. The fish in the tank are right were we want them.

We have a pretty election, the Iraq government asks our help and we do a little house cleaning.

Trust me. That's all contingent on Bush being re-elected.

If Kerry is elected he will open up talks with the Islamic front and apoligize and offer up his last born to a burpa.

Very clearheaded prediction. I think you are right on all counts.