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Exile_In_SJ
07-27-2004, 07:42 AM
Put the speakers in a cage
Ann Coulter (archive)
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The following is Ann Coulter's column that was supposed to be printed in Monday's USA Today. It was spiked because it was "unusable" and "not funny." Decide for yourself.
Here at the Spawn of Satan convention in Boston, conservatives are deploying a series of covert signals to identify one another, much like gay men do. My allies are the ones wearing crosses or American flags. The people sporting shirts emblazoned with the "F-word" are my opponents. Also, as always, the pretty girls and cops are on my side, most of them barely able to conceal their eye-rolling.
Democrats are constantly suing and slandering police as violent, fascist racists – with the exception of Boston's police, who'll be lauded as national heroes right up until the Democrats pack up and leave town on Friday, whereupon they'll revert to their natural state of being fascist, racist pigs.
A speaker at the Democratic National Convention this year, Al Sharpton, accused white police officers of raping and defacing Tawana Brawley in 1987, lunatic charges that eventually led to a defamation lawsuit against Sharpton, and even more eventually to Sharpton paying a jury award to the defamed plaintiff Steve Pagones. So it's a real mystery why cops wouldn't like Democrats.
As for the pretty girls, I can only guess that it's because liberal boys never try to make a move on you without the U.N. Security Council's approval. Plus, it's no fun riding around in those dinky little hybrid cars. My pretty-girl allies stick out like a sore thumb amongst the corn-fed, no make-up, natural fiber, no-bra needing, sandal-wearing, hirsute, somewhat fragrant hippie-chick pie wagons they call "women" at the Democratic National Convention.
Apparently, the nuts at the Democratic National Convention are going to be put in cages outside the convention hall. Sadly, they won't be fighting to the death as is done in W.W.F. caged matches. They're calling this the "protestor's area," although I suppose a better name would be the "truth-free zone."
I thought this was a great idea until I realized the "nut" category did not include Sharpton, Al Gore, Bill Clinton and Teddy Kennedy – all featured speakers at the convention. I'd say the actual policy is only untelegenic nuts get the cages, but little Dennis Kucinich is speaking at the Convention, too. So it must be cages for "nuts who have not run for president as serious candidates for the Democratic Party."
Looking at the line-up of speakers at the Convention, I have developed the 7-11 challenge: I will quit making fun of, for example, Dennis Kucinich, if he can prove he can run a 7-11 properly for 8 hours. We'll even let him have an hour or so of preparation before we open up. Within 8 hours, the money will be gone, the store will be empty, and he'll be explaining how three 11-year olds came in and asked for the money and he gave it to them.
For 20 years, the Democrats wouldn't let Jimmy Carter within 100 miles of a Convention podium. The fact that Carter is now their most respectable speaker tells you where that party is today. Maybe they just want to remind Americans who got us into this Middle East mess in the first place. We've got millions of fanatical Muslims trying to slaughter Americans while shouting "Allah Akbar!" Yeah, let's turn the nation over to these guys.
With any luck, Gore will uncork his speech comparing Republicans to Nazis. Just a few weeks ago, Gore gave a speech accusing the Bush administration of deploying "digital Brown Shirts" to intimidate journalists and pressure the media into writing good things about Bush – in case you were wondering where all those glowing articles about Bush were coming from.
The last former government official to slake his thirst so deeply with the Kool-Aid and become a far-left peacenik was Ramsey Clarke and it took him a few years to really blossom. Clinton must have done some number on Gore. Then again, with his yen for earth tones in a man's wardrobe, maybe Gore's references to "Brown Shirts" was intended as a compliment.
Only one major newspaper – the Boston Herald – reported Gore's "Brown Shirt" comment, though a Bush campaign spokesman's statement quoting the "Brown Shirt" line made it into the very last sentence of a Los Angeles Times article. The New York Times responded with an article criticizing "both" Republicans and Democrats for using Nazi imagery. Democrats call Republicans Nazis, the Republicans quote the Democrats calling Republicans Nazis and "both" are using Nazi imagery. (It's a cycle of violence!)
The nuts in the cages are virtual Bertrand Russells compared to the official speakers at the Democratic Convention. On the basis of their placards, I gather the caged-nut position is that they love the troops so much, they don't want them to get hurt defending America from terrorist attack. "Support the troops," the signs say, "bring them home."
That's my new position on all government workers, except the 5 percent who aren't useless, which is to say cops, prosecutors, firemen and U.S. servicemen. I love bureaucrats at the National Endowment of the Arts funding crucifixes submerged in urine so much – I think they should go home. I love public school teachers punishing any mention of God and banning Christmas songs so much – I think they should go home.
Walking back from the convention site, I chatted with a normal Bostonian for several blocks – who must have identified me through our covert system of signals. He was mostly bemused by the Democrats' primetime speakers and told me he used to be an independent, but for the last 20 years found himself voting mostly Republican. Then he corrected himself and said he votes for the "American."
I'd say I love all these Democrats in Boston so much I want them to go home, but I don't. I want Americans to get a good long look at the French Party and keep the 7-11 challenge in mind.
Exile_In_SJ
07-27-2004, 07:46 AM
Now I only saw one over the top comment, the spawn of satan one, but the rest were pretty mild.
Maybe the hippie chicks one, but then again some cliches have a bit of truth to them....
Overall, it was pretty funny and spot on on several respects.. The nazi commennts.. the police commentary and the Jimmmah Carter stuff.
Captain_Poncho
07-27-2004, 07:54 AM
I think it was all good and funny. Much in the same way Woody Paige's rants on Jacksonville were.
It's just that this election has gotten so nasty and acrimonious, you can't get anyone to take a joke aimed at their guy, party, philosophy, etc...
We're all a bunch of knee-jerkers now.
Exile_In_SJ
07-27-2004, 07:59 AM
I've heard her get downright mean and over the top, and the satan part was over the top, but really the rest was not bad and really, I can't see why it was spiked.
I guess the weeklong lovefest can't be salted with a few opposing views..
Rohirrim
07-27-2004, 08:13 AM
My guess is that at some point in her life, she ends up in a rubber room.
Old Dude
07-27-2004, 08:31 AM
I don't know if it's spiked or not, but I got bored and quit reading after the first two sentences.
It's kind of like sitting down at a cafeteria table next to some hotshot sorority girls. If you happen to catch a moment or two of their conversation, you quickly tune it out, because it's pure drivel. On the snotty side, but drivel nonetheless.
Coulter can't even raise my hackles anymore. She's just irrelevant.
Antilles
07-27-2004, 08:39 AM
I guess the weeklong lovefest can't be salted with a few opposing views..
I'm not sure that it can be called an "opposing view." Really, aside from the Carter observation, the piece doesn't have a shred of politcal discourse. Its purely caricature. The Woody paige comparison is right on. Entertaining, but hardly a legitimate viewpoint.
"As for the pretty girls, I can only guess that it's because liberal boys never try to make a move on you without the U.N. Security Council's approval."
That line cracked me up.
OrangeDoofus
07-27-2004, 09:54 AM
This is the same kind of mindless blather Coulter always writes. If USA Today didn't want to print it, what were they thinking asking her to write a column in the first place? The only conclusion I can come to is that nobody at USA Today had ever read Ann Coulter before.
Exile_In_SJ
07-27-2004, 10:31 AM
I dunno, the NYTimes keeps Maureen Dowd employed and she's pure drivel.
Spider
07-27-2004, 10:32 AM
Personaly I think we need to put Ann Coulter , Sean Hannity , Rush Limbaugh , Michael Moore ,Janeane Garofalo , Randi Rhodes , all in a rubber room ........... The Right and the Left have to find commen ground , the Common Ground is 9-11 , The Common ground is Terrorist , We have to find a leader that will win the war on terrorism ....
Is George Bush Evil ? no of course not , I believe Bush Loves America , I just dont agree with the way he wants to do it .........
Rascal
07-27-2004, 10:39 AM
Personaly I think we need to put Ann Coulter , Sean Hannity , Rush Limbaugh , Michael Moore ,Janeane Garofalo , Randi Rhodes , all in a rubber room ........... The Right and the Left have to find commen ground , the Common Ground is 9-11 , The Common ground is Terrorist , We have to find a leader that will win the war on terrorism ....
Is George Bush Evil ? no of course not , I believe Bush Loves America , I just dont agree with the way he wants to do it .........
REP.
Damn good post Spider.
Spider
07-27-2004, 10:45 AM
REP.
Damn good post Spider.
Thanks , but I think it is time to end the Rhetoric , I saw somthing last night that bothered me , We are more divided then we was in the 60's , We need to put the spin aside , realy study Both Canidates and see who will lead us to victory and unite this country ........ I think we have lost sight that the terrorist realy dont give a damn if I am a democrat or a republican , they will only Care that I am an AMERICAN . Anyhow I have engaged in my fare share of rhetoric , but now it is time to get serious .....
Rascal
07-27-2004, 10:54 AM
Thanks , but I think it is time to end the Rhetoric , I saw somthing last night that bothered me , We are more divided then we was in the 60's , We need to put the spin aside , realy study Both Canidates and see who will lead us to victory and unite this country ........ I think we have lost sight that the terrorist realy dont give a damn if I am a democrat or a republican , they will only Care that I am an AMERICAN . Anyhow I have engaged in my fare share of rhetoric , but now it is time to get serious .....
I defintely agree with that. What did you see last night?
Unfortunately I think this election will be on of the dirtiest that we have seen in a very long time.
I thought things might turn for the better when Kerry asked everybody at the convention to keep the Anti-Bush retoric off the stage, but then that went down the toilet as soon as Gore got on stage.
Fine, you disagree with how somebody is running the country or would run the country. No reason to be hateful about it.
And I have to spread some rep around.
Spider
07-27-2004, 10:56 AM
I defintely agree with that. What did you see last night?
Unfortunately I think this election will be on of the dirtiest that we have seen in a very long time.
I thought things might turn for the better when Kerry asked everybody at the convention to keep the Anti-Bush retoric off the stage, but then that went down the toilet as soon as Gore got on stage.
Fine, you disagree with how somebody is running the country or would run the country. No reason to be hateful about it.
And I have to spread some rep around.
Just 2 regular Joes in a coffee shop , sounding like Ann coulter and Randi Rhodes ........... Realy disheartning ...........
Exile_In_SJ
07-27-2004, 11:20 AM
Well since neither candidate is going to unite both sides what can you do? Most dems hate Bush and I can't see kerry appealing to many, if any republicans. We will continue to be a divided country no matter who wins.
Spider
07-27-2004, 11:22 AM
Well since neither candidate is going to unite both sides what can you do? Most dems hate Bush and I can't see kerry appealing to many, if any republicans. We will continue to be a divided country no matter who wins.
I think there are more Moderates , If we had a Clinton or a McCain Running , even Bob Dole , I think it would be alot Different ...........
Spider
07-27-2004, 11:24 AM
Reagan was able to reach across Party lines .......... I just dont think Bush has gave the effort , to reach the Dems ............. To me , America does her best with a dem president and a Republican Congress ..........
Blueflame
07-27-2004, 11:24 AM
It's my understanding that the column was replaced because it was basically a vitriolic screed with no substance... pure biased opinion with no substantiation. I'd have to agree with the editorial decision... no reputable newspaper should print a piece that starts out "spawn of Satan convention"... jmho.
Exile_In_SJ
07-27-2004, 11:54 AM
It's my understanding that the column was replaced because it was basically a vitriolic screed with no substance... pure biased opinion with no substantiation. I'd have to agree with the editorial decision... no reputable newspaper should print a piece that starts out "spawn of Satan convention"... jmho.
I agree the satan comment was over the line and would have asked her to change iit, but the rest was pretty close to being right on
Taco John
07-27-2004, 01:14 PM
Wow. Ann Coulter is crazy.
Hogan11
07-27-2004, 01:38 PM
Wow. Ann Coulter is crazy.
C'mon...you had to already know this.
This wench always merits instant dismissal.
Blueflame
07-27-2004, 01:50 PM
I agree the satan comment was over the line and would have asked her to change iit, but the rest was pretty close to being right on
The rest was "pretty close to being right on"? ??? :o
For example, do you really believe that all cops are Republican? If so, perhaps you could explain why New York's police and firefighters have endorsed Kerry.
And how about the inference that "all pretty girls" are Republican? The list of beautiful actresses and entertainers who are anti-Bush is quite extensive. I don't think Ashley Judd fits Ms. Coulter's description of Democratic women...
patteeu
07-27-2004, 02:15 PM
Reagan was able to reach across Party lines .......... I just dont think Bush has gave the effort , to reach the Dems ............. To me , America does her best with a dem president and a Republican Congress ..........
IMO
The reason it was easier for Reagan to get along with the opposition is because they still had control of Congress. Democrats got their way much of the time against Reagan. Democrats no longer have the leverage of Congressional control so they resort to creating division and shreiking about how horrible it is. If you haven't seen efforts by Bush to reach out to Dems then I don't think you follow the presidency very closely.
Rascal
07-27-2004, 02:25 PM
Its amazing how different political opinions can make simple English words have such different meanings. It never ceases to amaze me.
This is not a slam on any party or any person, just an observation.
Hercules Rockefeller
07-27-2004, 02:39 PM
If so, perhaps you could explain why New York's police and firefighters have endorsed Kerry.
Perhaps you could explain how a union endorsement is somehow the support of all members of the union? Union leaders are in bed with the Democratic Party, the rank and file of most unions are not.
Blueflame
07-27-2004, 04:25 PM
Perhaps you could explain how a union endorsement is somehow the support of all members of the union? Union leaders are in bed with the Democratic Party, the rank and file of most unions are not.
OK... Exile said Ms. Coulter's article was "pretty close to being right on". Ms. Coulter says: "Also, as always, the pretty girls and cops are on my side, most of them barely able to conceal their eye-rolling." The clear suggestion here is that all the pretty girls and all the cops (at the Democratic convention ::) ) are Republicans.
As to the union endorsements, I don't know for sure how it works for the NYPD, but it's my understanding that most unions normally take a vote of the membership prior to making any endorsements, with the majority making the call.
Also, I personally know cops who are not Republicans... ;D
on edit: btw, HR, I wouldn't mind seeing some documentation of that assertion in the last sentence of your post... the one that says union leaders make political endorsements that are not supported by "most" rank-and-file union members.
watermock
07-27-2004, 04:34 PM
I like Coulter's satire. He hits below the belt just like Michael Moore. Grow some thicker skin.
Jimmy Called "The Administration" extremist and radical 4 times, when he was so inept interest rates were 22 percent, inflation was 17 percent and unemployment was 10 percent.
I have a better memory about Jimmy Carter, the bumbling diplomat who hasn't managed a SINGLE SUCCESS in cooling down a damn thing but appeasement. Name anything Carter accomplished. Just one thing.
The economy right now after 2 wars, a dot com collapse and wall street collapse, along with 9/11 is doing much much better. This Clown is talking about Human rights when we actually did something about it?
Spider
07-27-2004, 04:44 PM
IMO
The reason it was easier for Reagan to get along with the opposition is because they still had control of Congress. Democrats got their way much of the time against Reagan. Democrats no longer have the leverage of Congressional control so they resort to creating division and shreiking about how horrible it is. If you haven't seen efforts by Bush to reach out to Dems then I don't think you follow the presidency very closely.
you want to know somthing ? .......... I realy dont care what you think , I wasnt asking for Opinions , I am stating what I have seen ........
If I am not seeing the whole picture that is my Problem and if I want any help I will ask for it ............
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-27-2004, 05:10 PM
"My fantasy is a three-way with Ann Slanders and Dubya."
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Rock Chalk
07-27-2004, 05:29 PM
This is the same kind of mindless blather Coulter always writes. If USA Today didn't want to print it, what were they thinking asking her to write a column in the first place? The only conclusion I can come to is that nobody at USA Today had ever read Ann Coulter before.
BS!
Coulter is a right wing nutjob to be sure, but to say she ALWAYS WRITES blather is ludicrous and hateful and uneducated. I read her book and while I disagreed with a great many things, she made clear points for her cases and NONE of it was mindless blather.
patteeu
07-27-2004, 05:42 PM
you want to know somthing ? .......... I realy dont care what you think , I wasnt asking for Opinions , I am stating what I have seen ........
If I am not seeing the whole picture that is my Problem and if I want any help I will ask for it ............
Get over yourself, Spider. This is a message board where ideas are exchanged. If you don't care what I think then just ignore.
Rohirrim
07-27-2004, 05:53 PM
IMO
The reason it was easier for Reagan to get along with the opposition is because they still had control of Congress. Democrats got their way much of the time against Reagan. Democrats no longer have the leverage of Congressional control so they resort to creating division and shreiking about how horrible it is. If you haven't seen efforts by Bush to reach out to Dems then I don't think you follow the presidency very closely.
:bs: In the forty years that the Democrats ran the House, they never sank to the level of this Hastert run House; late night deals, shutting the opposition completely out of committees, keeping quorums open longer so they had time to twist more arms after they'd already lost a vote on the floor. And to say that Bush has reached out to the opposition is absolutely laughable. What he's done, with the assistance of Frist and Hastert and DeLay, is shove his agenda down their throats. And when he knows he doesn't have the votes, he'll just pick judges during recess, or govern by executive order. What a joke.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-27-2004, 06:02 PM
In the forty years that the Democrats ran the House, they never sank to the level of this Hastert run House; late night deals, shutting the opposition completely out of committees, keeping quorums open longer so they had time to twist more arms after they'd already lost a vote on the floor. And to say that Bush has reached out to the opposition is absolutely laughable. What he's done, with the assistance of Frist and Hastert and DeLay, is shove his agenda down their throats. And when he knows he doesn't have the votes, he'll just pick judges during recess, or govern by executive order. What a joke.
Rep!
:)
Rohirrim
07-27-2004, 06:06 PM
I like Coulter's satire. He hits below the belt just like Michael Moore. Grow some thicker skin.
Jimmy Called "The Administration" extremist and radical 4 times, when he was so inept interest rates were 22 percent, inflation was 17 percent and unemployment was 10 percent.
I have a better memory about Jimmy Carter, the bumbling diplomat who hasn't managed a SINGLE SUCCESS in cooling down a damn thing but appeasement. Name anything Carter accomplished. Just one thing.
The economy right now after 2 wars, a dot com collapse and wall street collapse, along with 9/11 is doing much much better. This Clown is talking about Human rights when we actually did something about it?
Earth to Mock. This is the most extremist and radical administration in the history of the U.S. I agree, Carter was not a good president (IMO), but that was because he couldn't delegate responsibility and was a micro-manager. Also, he ran into the oil embargo and the Iran hostage crisis. Much of what he was dealing with was a continuation of what Nixon and Ford were also dealing with - remember the wage freezes and price controls of Nixon? Since then, Carter has done really admirable work around the world ensuring fair elections in budding democracies (like Indonesia last year), bringing AIDS medicines to Africa, and a slew of other, world-wide humanitarian causes. Oh, and BTW, he won the Nobel Peace Prize. That's a pretty good accomplishment.
patteeu
07-27-2004, 06:09 PM
:bs: In the forty years that the Democrats ran the House, they never sank to the level of this Hastert run House; late night deals, shutting the opposition completely out of committees, keeping quorums open longer so they had time to twist more arms after they'd already lost a vote on the floor. And to say that Bush has reached out to the opposition is absolutely laughable. What he's done, with the assistance of Frist and Hastert and DeLay, is shove his agenda down their throats. And when he knows he doesn't have the votes, he'll just pick judges during recess, or govern by executive order. What a joke.
ROFL Are you enjoying your time in the minority Rohirrim? Hopefully, you'll have another 4 years to get used to it.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-27-2004, 06:16 PM
Are you enjoying your time in the minority Rohirrim? Hopefully, you'll have another 4 years to get used to it.
"Good post. I can see you're a cheerleader for corporate plutocracy just like me! Here's a complimentary set of monogramed Halliburton knee pads. Keep up the good work!"
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Rohirrim
07-27-2004, 06:19 PM
ROFL Are you enjoying your time in the minority Rohirrim? Hopefully, you'll have another 4 years to get used to it.
Hmmm, sounds like your getting worried. Nnyah!
watermock
07-27-2004, 06:30 PM
Earth to Mock. This is the most extremist and radical administration in the history of the U.S. I agree, Carter was not a good president (IMO), but that was because he couldn't delegate responsibility and was a micro-manager.
That is an assertion, perhaps he could of been a decent leader and delegate instead of "living in sin" as he puts it. That was so funny as well as his brother. He didn't manage the Iran Crisis from the begining. I heard some crap out of Gore that the mission would of succeeded to rescue them and all the hostages would of come home unharmed. What a line of supposition. He used Radical and Extreemist constantly.
Also, he ran into the oil embargo and the Iran hostage crisis.
First, they were two different issues. Remember the 1972 war? Oh....like I have not called for new sources of energy. Nixon at least got us out of Johnsons war that had nothing whatsoever to do with national security. Iraq does.
Much of what he was dealing with was a continuation of what Nixon and Ford were also dealing with - remember the wage freezes and price controls of Nixon?
Yes, this is a fundamental idiotic banker philosophy, to raise rates to control a hot economy. A hot economy is GOOD. You can't slow a hot economy by interest rates till you kill it. The Federal Reserve have been blood suckers long before this. If you have to pay 12 percent to do business, that is passed on, just fueling inflation. Nixon had the cycling inflation under control as he displaced money from the stupid Vietnam War. These dynamics are totally different.
Since then, Carter has done really admirable work around the world ensuring fair elections in budding democracies (like Indonesia last year), bringing AIDS medicines to Africa, and a slew of other, world-wide humanitarian causes. Oh, and BTW, he won the Nobel Peace Prize. That's a pretty good accomplishment.
I asked what he did earlier. Indonesia is being overrun my Islamic Terrorists. Carters Middle East Accords? History. AIDS? Bush has given more Billions in aid for AIDs than any other countries COMBINED. Carter cries about human rights but you can't name one success. Hell, Jesse Jackson had to bail him out at times. What a joke.
Spider
07-27-2004, 08:03 PM
Get over yourself, Spider. This is a message board where ideas are exchanged. If you don't care what I think then just ignore.
Please fool , I dont need another Cheerleader telling me Bush is great ..... you are right Ideas are exchanged , and that leaves you out .......
a Big difference in Cheer leading and having a debate ...... I have already wasted more time on you then I wanted to ...........
TexanBob
07-27-2004, 08:21 PM
FWIW, I gag every time somebody uses the word "extremist" to describe Republicans. If you haven't noticed, we have 3,000 American dead because 19 guys decided to fly planes into tall buildings. THAT'S an extremist! Somebody wanting a tax cut or airline checkpoints is not an extremist. See the difference? But since the left just can't resist using over-the-top hate as a debating point, all the "Hitler", "extremist", "Taliban" yada yada yada talking points get thrown out ad nauseum.
And yet their dainty little ears burn if just ONE conservative dishes some of their own rhetoric back at them. THAT'S why they hate Ann Coulter. She argues like liberals do - full of over-the-top bomb throwing non-sequitors like a hissy-fit on PMS.
Not only are most Republicans not extremist, most aren't even that conservative. Bush extends Medicare benefits, increases funding for the National Endowment for the Arts, quadruples the amount of money going overseas to fight AIDS, lets Ted Kennedy write his education bill, etc. That's a conservative?!?
Bush is no conservative...he's just the lesser of two evils. And yet, to hear the left talk about him, he is Satan incarnate. If you only knew how many real conservatives will be drinking Maalox before they go to the polls in November. They'll vote for Bush only because they love their country too much to hand it to a war protester and his shyster buddy in a time of war.
Hogan11
07-27-2004, 08:41 PM
Coulter is insane.....her idol is Joe McCarthy, what does that tell you??
To support her is to be as nuts as her.......case closed. At least P.J. O'Rourke I can handle because he's level headed and funny....this shrill wench is nothing but a pure hate machine with semi-nice legs....
http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/images/coulter.jpg
To hell with this psycho biatch.
Hercules Rockefeller
07-27-2004, 08:59 PM
As to the union endorsements, I don't know for sure how it works for the NYPD, but it's my understanding that most unions normally take a vote of the membership prior to making any endorsements, with the majority making the call.
A lot of unions, like the AFL-CIO, have their executive board decide on who they will endorse. Other unions will place restrictions on who can be considered for an endorsement. If the candidate does not support a position that the union leadership feels is important or considered viable, that candidate is not eligible for the endorsement. So while union members will get to vote, their choices will be limited by the leadership.
I'll look for your other info for you.
watermock
07-27-2004, 09:36 PM
This might surprise you, but McCarthy exposed several communists, real communists.
Go look it up.
Hogan11
07-27-2004, 09:42 PM
Yeah....and Roy Cohn was a great American too I suppose ::)
Whatever.
watermock
07-27-2004, 09:59 PM
I am amazed how Hungary is holding fast.
I am ready to pull some major kickass.
I can't believe how we are letting terrorists pull this off.
It's time to beat some bastards down.
Ignoring terrorists is funny.
Just mark my words. These idiots will try something before the Repug convention, or right before the overall election thinking they will sway the election.
Michael Moore wants to stop the war now. He wants to stop the killing of children.
He's got blind ideology but he thinks that children were not dying.
I don't remember American troops killing children unless they were used as pathetic cover by the bastards. We have a voulunteer armed forces. Now if you want to say ur 18 year olds are children, well they are, but Moore loves to muddle the issue.
More children were killed by a thousand fold by Saddam than those killed in this war.
The main problem with this war is it wasn't prosecuted to the full extent. It's ok, it's not as bad as they say. This crap happens all over. Turkey, Spain, Iraq, Spain, it's all over.
Iran simply covers it up with Syria.
You people don't even get it. They are terrorists.
Do you honestly think we are going to appease them by backing off and going into the sunset? What do you think happens next?
Michael Moore brings the world together? That's the last thing he would want. Moore's strategy is to polarize the populace to make money, and the lemmings follow right along despite continuing evidence that all his movies are docudramas.
It's kinda sad out of that fat ****er.
Blueflame
07-28-2004, 11:16 AM
A lot of unions, like the AFL-CIO, have their executive board decide on who they will endorse. Other unions will place restrictions on who can be considered for an endorsement. If the candidate does not support a position that the union leadership feels is important or considered viable, that candidate is not eligible for the endorsement. So while union members will get to vote, their choices will be limited by the leadership.
I'll look for your other info for you.
Most union members also get to vote for candidates who occupy the union leadership positions... at least that's how it works with the Teamsters. If your point was that third-party candidates might not be considered for the union endorsements, then I'll concede that issue. It is possible that an individual union member might support a presidential candidate that union leadership views as "not viable". I sincerely doubt that this would apply to "most" rank-and-file union members, however.
Nonetheless, it's my contention that cops... and pretty girls (which, btw, is a category which imo would not include Ms. Coulter as she's about 20 years too old to be considered a "girl") are individual people with diverse opinions that span the political spectrum.
And Ms. Coulter? Somehow, I see her probable future as a writer for NewsMax or some similar extreme rightwing publication. She's much too incendiary for mainstream media.
Rascal
07-28-2004, 11:34 AM
FWIW, I gag every time somebody uses the word "extremist" to describe Republicans. If you haven't noticed, we have 3,000 American dead because 19 guys decided to fly planes into tall buildings. THAT'S an extremist! Somebody wanting a tax cut or airline checkpoints is not an extremist. See the difference? But since the left just can't resist using over-the-top hate as a debating point, all the "Hitler", "extremist", "Taliban" yada yada yada talking points get thrown out ad nauseum.
And yet their dainty little ears burn if just ONE conservative dishes some of their own rhetoric back at them. THAT'S why they hate Ann Coulter. She argues like liberals do - full of over-the-top bomb throwing non-sequitors like a hissy-fit on PMS.
Not only are most Republicans not extremist, most aren't even that conservative. Bush extends Medicare benefits, increases funding for the National Endowment for the Arts, quadruples the amount of money going overseas to fight AIDS, lets Ted Kennedy write his education bill, etc. That's a conservative?!?
Bush is no conservative...he's just the lesser of two evils. And yet, to hear the left talk about him, he is Satan incarnate. If you only knew how many real conservatives will be drinking Maalox before they go to the polls in November. They'll vote for Bush only because they love their country too much to hand it to a war protester and his shyster buddy in a time of war.
Good post.
Rohirrim
07-28-2004, 11:36 AM
FWIW, I gag every time somebody uses the word "extremist" to describe Republicans. If you haven't noticed, we have 3,000 American dead because 19 guys decided to fly planes into tall buildings. THAT'S an extremist! Somebody wanting a tax cut or airline checkpoints is not an extremist. See the difference? But since the left just can't resist using over-the-top hate as a debating point, all the "Hitler", "extremist", "Taliban" yada yada yada talking points get thrown out ad nauseum.
And yet their dainty little ears burn if just ONE conservative dishes some of their own rhetoric back at them. THAT'S why they hate Ann Coulter. She argues like liberals do - full of over-the-top bomb throwing non-sequitors like a hissy-fit on PMS.
Not only are most Republicans not extremist, most aren't even that conservative. Bush extends Medicare benefits, increases funding for the National Endowment for the Arts, quadruples the amount of money going overseas to fight AIDS, lets Ted Kennedy write his education bill, etc. That's a conservative?!?
Bush is no conservative...he's just the lesser of two evils. And yet, to hear the left talk about him, he is Satan incarnate. If you only knew how many real conservatives will be drinking Maalox before they go to the polls in November. They'll vote for Bush only because they love their country too much to hand it to a war protester and his shyster buddy in a time of war.
Burp!
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-28-2004, 10:03 PM
http://www.bartcop.com/coulter_white.jpg
watermock
07-29-2004, 12:57 AM
Ann Coulter is a Nazi right?
I thought you were a monkey, but you have managed to convince me your more of a Paramecium.
Your nothing more than a cut and past clown. Sure, you will manage to have dingleberries, but I will beat you down every time.
I know you have tried to bring reinforcements. Are you kidding me?
I have beaten you down of every single point.
What is amazing to me is I keep trying to agree with you on something and can't.
I have even given that vicious asshole Slap rep once or twice.
I have given RO rep.
Rep means nothing other than make a point I agree with strongly. I don't care if I have square one. It's not going to change what I say or feel.
This isn't a circle jerk. But let me tell you this.
The season is starting, and I am damn tired of your cut and paste crap. If Taco doesn't free the off topic, I will continue to beat you down. If he doesn't, that's his right. I won't lose any sleep.
I think your a moron with an unrealistic and partisan agenda.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-29-2004, 01:18 AM
Water-on-the-brain to McCarthy's chickenhead's rescue.
"My hero! *sigh*"
http://www.bartcop.com/ho-coulter.jpg
I will continue to beat you down
What you do in your dreams doesn't count here, monkey boy.
You should think first about sobering up long enough to see what you've written here--although you'll undoubtedly be more than a little chagrined when you see the number of embarrassing posts you've authored.
(Do "Kathleen Harris was a Democrat who designed the butterfly ballot" and "Paul Bremer is in trouble for stuffing documents down his pants" ring a bell?)
Next, you should work on forming coherent thoughts.
Finally, you should take some initial steps toward a basic, entry-level understanding of the political issues under discussion here.
In the meantime, have fun with your imaginary "beat downs" and don't forget to buckle up for your next ride on the short bus.
watermock
07-29-2004, 01:46 AM
Water-on-the-brain to McCarthy's chickenhead's rescue.
"My hero! *sigh*"
http://www.bartcop.com/ho-coulter.jpg
First thing the idiot does is to a bartcop cut and paste.
I will continue to beat you down
What you do in your dreams doesn't count here, monkey boy.
You should think first about sobering up long enough to see what you've written here--although you'll undoubtedly be more than a little chagrined when you see the number of embarrassing posts you've authored.
That's just irrelevant and self humiliating. You didn't say anything.
(Do "Kathleen Harris was a Democrat who designed the butterfly ballot" and "Paul Bremer is in trouble for stuffing documents down his pants" ring a bell?)
We went thru this allready three weeks ago. I said that I got the name wrong. The fact remains a democrat designed the ballot.
OK, it is Sandy Berger. WTF. So I said Bremmer, who was the administrator in Iraq with Berger.
****ing excuse me.
Is that the best you can do?
The fundamental facts remain.
Why not look at this:
some dimwit made a ballot, I don't know her name but she was a democrat might of changed the election. I still don't remember this dimwits name. Got that.
I mixed up Bremmer and Berger.
It doesn't mean Berger didn't stuff documents down his socks.
Or does my misplacing names make it not so?
Look you arrogant dimwit, both arguments were valid.
A democrat made the Florida Ballot.
A Clinton Aid tried to smuggle documents out in his socks and underwear.
Does it really matter or are they both stupid pet tricks?
WTF. It's not semantics. I apoligize.
Now tell me Sandy Berger didn't stuff classified documents from the Clinton Administration in his underwear.
The names? I am not required to name names.
I said I made a mistake about the idiot Democrat that made the ballot, and that was addressed, and I forgot the name of the treasonist man who stole documents and hid them in his socks.
How about I forget Mr. Lee or whoever who stole CD's from Los Alamos as well? God your a tool.
The whole facility is full of ratholes and has had to be shut down.
Paul Bremer was the administrator of Iraq. My mistake.
The argument stands.
Next, you should work on forming coherent thoughts.
Finally, you should take some initial steps toward a basic, entry-level understanding of the political issues under discussion here.
In the meantime, have fun with your imaginary "beat downs" and don't forget to buckle up for your next ride on the short bus.
Look you dimwit, the fact that I displaced Bremmer for
watermock
07-29-2004, 01:53 AM
I will tell you one thing that I am sure of.
A democrat designed the ballot. I don't give a damn who this idiot's name was. Blame me.
As far as the second name, Bremmer or Berger.
You still can't address the issues.
So I am supposed to name the dumb democrat that screwed up the ballot and place the name wrong. Excuse me.
Then I make Bremmer, the Iraqi Chief, instead of Berger.
Well **** you. That doesn't change crap regarding the argument.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-29-2004, 01:54 AM
Hilarious!
Meltdown!
watermock
07-29-2004, 02:04 AM
Not at all.
Berger and Bremmer are pretty easy to misspell.
Since you have had your fun, tell me exactly what exactly you propose.
Name me the dumb broad graphic designer who designed the ballot. C'mon.
Bremmer was the authority in Iraq, Berger was the guy who stole documents.
Now you tell me dimwit, what is more important. My argument using Bremmer instead of Berger, or Berger stuffing classified documents into his underwear.
Obviously it would me typing the wrong but similliar name right?
There are facts.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-29-2004, 02:34 AM
Berger and Bremmer are pretty easy to misspell.
You didn't misspell either of their names (until now, anyway.)
You stated that it was Bremer who was in hot water for misplacing documents.
And you have the nerve to call others "dimwits."