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ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 01:32 PM
US violated spy laws 'hundreds' of times in the past decade

http://www.zdnet.com/article/us-violated-spy-laws-hundreds-of-times-in-the-past-decade/

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 01:49 PM
Re: the period 2001 - 2009, I have no comment..

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 01:53 PM
http://www.truthrevolt.org/sites/default/files/styles/content_full_width/public/field/image/articles/screen_shot_2017-01-20_at_4.58.38_pm.jpg?itok=L-eela8uHilarious!

nyuk nyuk
10-03-2017, 01:57 PM
US violated spy laws 'hundreds' of times in the past decade

http://www.zdnet.com/article/us-violated-spy-laws-hundreds-of-times-in-the-past-decade/

Well that's just living proof we can outlaw firearms and trust in the government to protect us.

It can't happen HERE!

nyuk nyuk
10-03-2017, 01:58 PM
Derp.

You have no comment between 2009 and 2016, so what you did was engage in ad hominem tu quoque.

Smart thinkin'.

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 01:59 PM
Well that's just living proof we can outlaw firearms and trust in the government to protect us.

It can't happen HERE!

https://media.giphy.com/media/tMyCJmeXHBetq/giphy.gif

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 02:46 PM
You have no comment between 2009 and 2016, so what you did was engage in ad hominem tu quoque.

Smart thinkin'.

For starters, I didn't spend the eight years from 2009 - 2017 labeling anyone who criticized the surveillance policies a "traitor" who "hates America."

That already puts me a step ahead of your entire team.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 02:51 PM
Bong Boy the "privacy warrior" who shrugs at Jeff Sessions' attacks on 4A and President Bone Spurs' demands for your IP addresses, FCC net neutrality roll-backs, etc.

It's all partisan politics all the time for Spicoli.

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 02:53 PM
Bong Boy the "privacy warrior" who shrugs at Jeff Sessions' attacks on 4A and President Bone Spurs' demands for your IP addresses, FCC net neutrality roll-backs, etc.

It's all partisan politics all the time for Spicoli.

https://media.giphy.com/media/r1wGrCEZ4zTeU/giphy.gif

BroncoBeavis
10-03-2017, 02:56 PM
Lolz. Memebot throwing out terms like Net Neutrality in a privacy context, proving he has no idea what it really means.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 03:11 PM
Some free education for Cletus...

The net neutrality fight is also about protecting your privacy online

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/technology/342039-the-net-neutrality-fight-is-also-about-protecting-your-privacy

The FCC’s plan to kill net neutrality will also kill internet privacy

https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/11/15258230/net-neutrality-privacy-ajit-pai-fcc

nyuk nyuk
10-03-2017, 03:14 PM
Lolz. Memebot throwing out terms like Net Neutrality in a privacy context, proving he has no idea what it really means.

He's trying to hijack the thread to something that makes him feel more comfortable because he can't handle liberal complicity in this crap.

nyuk nyuk
10-03-2017, 03:15 PM
For starters, I didn't spend the eight years from 2009 - 2017 labeling anyone who criticized the surveillance policies a "traitor" who "hates America."

That already puts me a step ahead of your entire team.

Hi, you're still not condemning the Obama administration's behavior regarding unlawful spy laws in that time frame.

I get it: You don't want to. You have no condemnation, you'd rather talk about The Conservative Other.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 03:16 PM
He's trying to hijack the thread to something that makes him feel more comfortable because he can't handle liberal complicity in this crap.

Nah - just noting Spicoli's selective outrage.

BTW, Obama a "liberal?"

That's rich. :giggle:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 03:17 PM
Hi, you're still not condemning the Obama administration's behavior regarding unlawful spy laws in that time frame.

I get it: You don't want to. You have no condemnation, you'd rather talk about The Conservative Other.

Whatever you say, Mr. Join Date 2013. ::)

ShaneFalco
10-14-2017, 03:57 PM
They trying to renew a surveillance bill as well.

All the big violators of the 4th have come out to defend it.

Agamemnon
10-14-2017, 04:23 PM
Both parties back the move towards a surveillance state and you dip****s keep supporting your chosen side.

ShaneFalco
10-14-2017, 04:34 PM
Opposition mounts against bill to renew surveillance program

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/355038-opposition-mounts-against-bill-to-renew-surveillance-program



A carefully crafted compromise proposal to reform the NSA’s warrantless surveillance program is in trouble, with opposition coming from libertarian-leaning conservatives and members of the House Intelligence Committee.
The House Freedom Caucus appears dissatisfied with the National Security Agency reform measure, which was drafted by a bipartisan group of Judiciary Committee lawmakers led by chairman Bob Goodlatte (http://thehill.com/people/bob-goodlatte) (R-Va.).
Freedom Caucus members often find common ground with progressives on surveillance issues, potentially putting them in a position to decide the fate of the legislation.
“If there is a ground zero for that debate, it’s probably in my caucus,” said chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.). “I don’t know that [the bill] goes far enough. I think there’s still a lot of unanswered questions with regards to Fourth Amendment protections.”
The Freedom Caucus hasn’t staked out an official position on the bill yet, but will likely do so in the next few weeks, Meadows said.
Complicating matters further, the Intelligence Committee isn’t totally on board with Goodlatte’s bill either. Rep. Tom Rooney (R-Fla.), the chairman of the House subcommittee with oversight over the NSA, on Thursday suggested the Intelligence Committee might draft its own bill.
The Trump administration, meanwhile, has been stumping hard for a clean, permanent reauthorization of the NSA wiretapping program. But Goodlatte has said a clean renewal does not have the votes to pass the House.
The dispute centers on a law that lets the government collect emails and text messages sent by foreign spies, terrorists and other foreign targets overseas. Under the law, federal investigators are allowed to search that database for Americans who may have communicated with a foreign target.
The intelligence community calls the program a critical tool in identifying and disrupting terrorist plots. Civil liberties advocates say it infringes on the Fourth Amendment.
The NSA authority is set to expire at the end of this year, giving lawmakers a short timeline to either reform or renew the program.





Trump admin really wants it passed.

GreatBronco16
10-14-2017, 08:57 PM
Both parties back the move towards a surveillance state and you dip****s keep supporting your chosen side.

It's crazy isn't it???

Rohirrim
10-15-2017, 12:58 AM
While the research shows the violations are inadvertent, it reveals a pattern of systematic problems about the scale of the US government's sprawling and complex surveillance program, said the project's lead.

"The real threat to privacy isn't that an individual person is engaging in intentional wrongdoing, it's that lots of people are accidentally breaking the rules, or that the surveillance and data retention systems aren't built to follow the rules in the first place," Robyn Greene, policy counsel and government affairs lead at the Open Technology Institute, told ZDNet.

Yes. We are having a very difficult time coming up to the level of the technology we employ, and that is being employed against us. We are under attack from numerous global enemies (terrorists, Russia, etc.) and are struggling to find a way to keep an open society when that very openness is being used against us. The technology is extremely sophisticated and nations are racing each other in their efforts to weaponize it and/or use it in defense. Too bad we have a moron in the WH who is more concerned with a variety of petty, personal issues than he is about our national security.