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LongDongJohnson
10-01-2017, 11:16 PM
The Vegas strip is a war zone right now. Active shooters at the country music festival.

Sounds like he has an m16.

Multiple people shot.

Agamemnon
10-01-2017, 11:28 PM
Lovely.

LongDongJohnson
10-01-2017, 11:34 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/davidsakach/status/914730995147870208

This is nuts. And I planned on going out tonight too.

I think it’s still going on now. Machine gun shooting from an upper elevated position.

LongDongJohnson
10-02-2017, 12:17 AM
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was isis

ShaneFalco
10-02-2017, 01:24 AM
.... wow

LongDongJohnson
10-02-2017, 01:37 AM
Sounds like it was a solo act by a Vegas local. According to the sheriff, 20+ dead and 100+ injured.

ShaneFalco
10-02-2017, 02:29 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Terrifying. <br><br>Woman celebrating 21st birthday was in front row. Says another woman came during show &amp; told everyone they were going to die. <a href="https://t.co/kwe00GMmqR">pic.twitter.com/kwe00GMmqR</a></p>&mdash; Ryan McKinnell (@RyanMcKinnell) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanMcKinnell/status/914755192444272640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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ShaneFalco
10-02-2017, 02:30 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EYEWITNESS: Chilling footage of moment active shooter opened fire on concert goers near Mandalay Bay resort in Las Vegas <a href="https://t.co/7OfAwg0ReO">pic.twitter.com/7OfAwg0ReO</a></p>&mdash; Josh Caplan (@joshdcaplan) <a href="https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/914734060332769280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2017, 02:45 AM
Per the local sheriff:

At approximately 10.08pm we had calls coming of multiple shots being fired from the Mandalay Bay hotel towards the Route 91 concert, on the east side of Las Vegas Boulevard.

There was a shooter on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay. Officers engaged the suspect at that location. He is dead. He has been identified. He is a local resident. I will not release his name at this time ...

We are confident that the primary aggressor in this event has expired, or passed away and is no longer a threat.

We do not know what his belief system was at this time. We believe he is the sole aggressor at this point and the scene is static. We are attempting to locate the person of interest.

Right now we believe it is a sole actor, a lone wolf-type actor and we have the place under control.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/oct/02/las-vegas-two-dead-in-mandalay-bay-casino-shooting-latest-updates

ShaneFalco
10-02-2017, 02:49 AM
The person is crazy, no matter what they believed.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2017, 03:02 AM
Live updates: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/las-vegas-police-investigating-shooting-mandalay-bay-n806461

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2017, 03:04 AM
Shooter ID: Stephen Paddock. 64 yo white male.

Criminal record. Known to local law enforcement.

ShaneFalco
10-02-2017, 03:12 AM
Shooter ID: Stephen Paddock. 64 yo white male.

Criminal record. Known to local law enforcement.

link?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2017, 03:22 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/02/las-vegas-gunman-suspect-is-stephen-paddock-64-of-mesquite.html

ShaneFalco
10-02-2017, 03:32 AM
Cant believe how high up the guy was. Just spraying into the crowd.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2017, 03:33 AM
Stephen Paddock: Las Vegas gunman identified by police as '64-year-old white male'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-gunman-shooting-police-identify-white-male-latest-update-a7978361.html

ShaneFalco
10-02-2017, 03:35 AM
50 dead 200+ injured.

Sheriff on TV saying

just confirmed stephen paddock as shooter

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2017, 04:00 AM
First photo of perp...

https://s1.postimg.org/7nkujp5zy7/IMG_6604.jpg

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/first-picture-gunman-stephen-paddock-11274144

69bronco
10-02-2017, 04:52 AM
Awful news. Hope that a-hole rots in hell, can't believe someone could do what he did.

rmsanger
10-02-2017, 05:50 AM
****ing people

broncocalijohn
10-02-2017, 06:31 AM
Who in the hell is that woman? So sickening. Is there anywhere in public that you will feel safe?

W*GS
10-02-2017, 06:42 AM
This sort of thing is the price we pay for the current interpretation of the RKBA.

ShaneFalco
10-02-2017, 06:48 AM
This sort of thing is the price we pay for the current interpretation of the RKBA.

people have so become partisan that they are now leaping over dead bodies on the way to their warped view of politics

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 07:10 AM
Sadly, we're going to be told to give up our Constitutional rights for a false sense of security.

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 07:11 AM
This sort of thing is the price we pay for the current interpretation of the RKBA.

Since we don't know the facts of this shooting, what the guy's background is, whether or not he had legal guns.... You have no argument and are simply trying to capitalize on a lunatic.

W*GS
10-02-2017, 07:12 AM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/e1/91/98e191b54ffa450fba77e0e8d5d318a7.jpg

W*GS
10-02-2017, 07:14 AM
Since we don't know the facts of this shooting, what the guy's background is, whether or not he had legal guns.... You have no argument and are simply trying to capitalize on a lunatic.

You already supported my comment with your previous post (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5075784&postcount=24).

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 07:15 AM
It'll be interesting to see how liberal media whip up racial hysteria here like they typically do if the shooter is white or sort-of-white like Zimmerman.

A white guy with an Asian "companion" wrecks the racist angle as does his shooting up a redneck country concert with a mostly white crowd.

Perhaps here is where left wing media will say that those whites "deserved it" or similar due to their allegedly collective guilt for the sins of the long dead.

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 07:15 AM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/e1/91/98e191b54ffa450fba77e0e8d5d318a7.jpg

You need to look up the definition of terrorism. Merely shooting people isn't it.

But right when I mentioned the left wing media finding an angle to dredge up race, YOU did it. Congrats.

W*GS
10-02-2017, 07:16 AM
What has the NRA said? Anything yet?

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 07:16 AM
You already supported my comment with your previous post (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5075784&postcount=24).

Stop deflecting again. Defend the conclusion you drew. My pointing out that media, politicians, and gun ban groups try to get us to surrender our 2nd Amendment rights when someone abuses them is not "proof of RKBA" nor does it justify your knee-jerk reaction to this shooting.

W*GS
10-02-2017, 07:17 AM
You need to look up the definition of terrorism. Merely shooting people isn't it.

White guy shooting? Not terrorism. Non-white guy shooting? Terrorism.

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 07:18 AM
What has the NRA said? Anything yet?

The NRA has nationwide courses in gun safety by certified instructors, yet you and yours keep pushing the lie that the NRA doesn't care.

Yes, we get it: You're insecure about firearms and instead of handling your insecurity, you want to ban and grab.

If you haven't noticed in your advanced age, freedom has inherent risks.

W*GS
10-02-2017, 07:19 AM
Stop deflecting again. Defend the conclusion you drew. My pointing out that media, politicians, and gun ban groups try to get us to surrender our 2nd Amendment rights when someone abuses them is not "proof of RKBA" nor does it justify your knee-jerk reaction to this shooting.

To you, the victims are regrettable but necessary to keep our RKBA intact. Their deaths pale in comparison to the greater good provided by the gundamentalist faith in the RKBA.

W*GS
10-02-2017, 07:20 AM
The NRA has nationwide courses in gun safety by certified instructors, yet you and yours keep pushing the lie that the NRA doesn't care.

Yes, we get it: You're insecure about firearms and instead of handling your insecurity, you want to ban and grab.

If you haven't noticed in your advanced age, freedom has inherent risks.

Like I said (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5075766&postcount=22).

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 07:20 AM
White guy shooting? Not terrorism. Non-white guy shooting? Terrorism.

Hi, are you having difficulty defending your RKBA assumption? I take it so since you're trying to change the topic to race baiting.

ter·ror·ism
ˈterəˌrizəm

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"the fight against terrorism"

Does a dictionary help you?

"In the pursuit of political aims." Motive is the defining requirement for an act to be considered terrorism, not simply shooting a bunch of people.

Next time, I would suggest you peel memes off of people with levels of education higher than the 7th grade.

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 07:22 AM
Like I said (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5075766&postcount=22).

It's like I said, though here take out point #1 and replace it with "You make a dumb comment you can't defend" and then move to 2 through 4 for this thread:

Well that's totally a rebut to the Democrat double standard I just pointed out. You're quite the scholar.

Your approach is this:

1) See something negative about liberals in a post
2) If you can't respond to the comment (which is nearly always) then
3) Deflectively attack the person making the comment with some dumb snark or insult.
4) Repeat as needed.

:thumbs:

ShaneFalco
10-02-2017, 07:23 AM
Obviously he was a liberal, republican, klan member, BLM activist, conservative, trumptard, Antifa member, Muslim, illegal alien, homosexual, Christian, libertarian, ammosexual, white guy, democrat......

There, everybody feel better now?

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 07:23 AM
Obviously he was a liberal, republican, klan member, BLM activist, conservative, trumptard, Antifa member, Muslim, illegal alien, homosexual, Christian, libertarian, ammosexual, white guy, democrat......

There, everybody feel better now?

You forgot white supremacist with Asian woman.

broncocalijohn
10-02-2017, 07:37 AM
It'll be interesting to see how liberal media whip up racial hysteria here like they typically do if the shooter is white or sort-of-white like Zimmerman.

A white guy with an Asian "companion" wrecks the racist angle as does his shooting up a redneck country concert with a mostly white crowd.

Perhaps here is where left wing media will say that those whites "deserved it" or similar due to their allegedly collective guilt for the sins of the long dead.


I guess W*gs already went political. Liberal media sure didn't go much on the church shooting the last week. Once they found out who the shooter was and the victims, it wasnt much of a story for them.

gunns
10-02-2017, 07:40 AM
I guess W*gs already went political. Liberal media sure didn't go much on the church shooting the last week. Once they found out who the shooter was and the victims, it wasnt much of a story for them.

And NumbNuts followed right behind with his political BS. People are dead. Does it really matter? 50 people dead and it's blame blame blame everyone but the shooter. Shut up.

GameChanger
10-02-2017, 07:45 AM
Obviously he was a liberal, republican, klan member, BLM activist, conservative, trumptard, Antifa member, Muslim, illegal alien, homosexual, Christian, libertarian, ammosexual, white guy, democrat......

There, everybody feel better now?

The violent entertainment industry.

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 07:45 AM
I guess W*gs already went political. Liberal media sure didn't go much on the church shooting the last week. Once they found out who the shooter was and the victims, it wasnt much of a story for them.

Not only was the shooter black who targeted white people, they found out it was racially-motivated. Shootings like that always get cement shoes by the media.

GameChanger
10-02-2017, 07:47 AM
Not only was the shooter black who targeted white people, they found out it was racially-motivated. Shootings like that always get cement shoes by the media.

I never even heard about it. What a surprise.

W*GS
10-02-2017, 08:03 AM
nyuk doesn't realize he's agreeing with my post (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5075766&postcount=22).

He's wrapped up in his partisanship.

Rohirrim
10-02-2017, 08:27 AM
Horrible tragedy. A world gone mad.

Agamemnon
10-02-2017, 08:35 AM
Sadly, we're going to be told to give up our Constitutional rights for a false sense of security.

Yeah that's true tragedy here...

::)

rmsanger
10-02-2017, 09:10 AM
60 people dead and 500 injured regardless of who was the shooter and which demographic were targeted it's a terrible incident.

One has to assume these type of events influence and inspire other whackos to carry out like activities. All I can say is that mental illness, extremism, terrorism, and whatever ism is on the rise. We need "good" people across the spectrum to stand up and reject such behavior.

Rohirrim
10-02-2017, 09:19 AM
BTW, if anybody wants an automatic sear for their AR-15 platform, you can simply google it. There are dozens of sites on line that offer them (for only around $150). There are even You Tube videos that show you how to install them. A drum magazine is only about $126.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1405/6094/products/RWB_AR15100_530x388.jpg?v=1490016995

Agamemnon
10-02-2017, 09:21 AM
These kinds of shootings are the natural result of lax gun laws and nearly non-existent care for the mentally ill in this country. And no one is going to do a damn thing about either issue.

rmsanger
10-02-2017, 09:24 AM
People kill people, never pass the buck or accountability for their own actions.

http://www.infiniteunknown.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gun-control-welcome-to-chicago-highest-murder-rate-in-nation.jpg

Rohirrim
10-02-2017, 09:27 AM
These kinds of shootings are the natural result of lax gun laws and nearly non-existent care for the mentally ill in this country. And no one is going to do a damn thing about either issue.

Not if it requires raising taxes on the rich.

Garcia Bronco
10-02-2017, 09:39 AM
Horrible tragedy. A world gone mad.

<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mDfkdkmE1iM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

"In a world gone mad, there must be something more than this."

Agamemnon
10-02-2017, 09:40 AM
People kill people, never pass the buck or accountability for their own actions.

http://www.infiniteunknown.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/gun-control-welcome-to-chicago-highest-murder-rate-in-nation.jpg

Most of the guns used in mass shootings are acquired legally. The streets of inner cities being flooded with illegal handguns is another issue altogether. Had the Vegas shooter only had illegal handguns the damage done would've been greatly reduced. And I mean really, the "gun control doesn't work in America" argument only really works if you ignore that the problem of our streets being flooded with guns today is the result of decades of insanely lax gun policies at the behest of America's bonkers gun culture. In time stringent gun laws would reduce gun crime. Period.

gunns
10-02-2017, 09:53 AM
Sadly, we're going to be told to give up our Constitutional rights for a false sense of security.

Oh yeah, that's by far the biggest concern right now, that Nyuk gets to keep his guns for a false sense of security. Hasn't Obama come to your door yet to confiscate them?

Let it go, for at least today.

ludo21
10-02-2017, 10:03 AM
Politics will invade this day quick fast and in a hurry. There is no time for tears and mourning these days.

Rohirrim
10-02-2017, 10:05 AM
Politics will invade this day quick fast and in a hurry. There is no time for tears and mourning these days.

Got to get it all in quick before the next one...

ludo21
10-02-2017, 10:09 AM
Got to get it all in quick before the next one...

:(

Mecklomaniac
10-02-2017, 10:16 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/politics/hillary-clinton-tweet-gun-silencer-bill/index.html

Hillary Clinton‏ @HillaryClinton

The crowd fled at the sound of gunshots.

Imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer, which the NRA wants to make easier to get.
7:03 AM - 2 Oct 2017

:oyvey:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2017, 10:37 AM
These kinds of shootings are the natural result of lax gun laws and nearly non-existent care for the mentally ill in this country. And no one is going to do a damn thing about either issue.

Exactly.

It's pretty ****ed up when you can't even go to a concert anymore without having to worry about this ****.

And all because the majority of our "representatives" are beholden to the NRA.

Disgraceful.

https://s1.postimg.org/1phvqx0r73/IMG_0713.jpg

Cito Pelon
10-02-2017, 10:41 AM
This guy Paddock lived in Mesquite, NV, home of Cliven Bundy and the scene of the armed militia vs. the BLM back in March, 2014. Very tenuous connection, dunno.

Maleficent
10-02-2017, 11:11 AM
🙏🙏 For victims and their families.

America is mourning.

gunns
10-02-2017, 11:14 AM
🙏🙏 For victims and their families.

America is mourning.

^This

Pontius Pirate
10-02-2017, 11:19 AM
The NRA and gun industry doesn't care that 50+ people were just killed. Don't look to them for answers.

In fact, I'd say they are glad this happened. Gun sales just spiked in the wake of this event. You better believe the NRA and gun industry is happy with that and happy that gun murders happen.

Arkie
10-02-2017, 11:31 AM
The NRA and gun industry doesn't care that 50+ people were just killed. Don't look to them for answers.

In fact, I'd say they are glad this happened. Gun sales just spiked in the wake of this event. You better believe the NRA and gun industry is happy with that and happy that gun murders happen.

These events lead to the prospect of more gun control. That will always drive gun sales.

ghwk
10-02-2017, 11:50 AM
Have the village idiots shown up yet to declare its a hoax like Sandy Hook?

broncocalijohn
10-02-2017, 11:52 AM
The NRA and gun industry doesn't care that 50+ people were just killed. Don't look to them for answers.

In fact, I'd say they are glad this happened. Gun sales just spiked in the wake of this event. You better believe the NRA and gun industry is happy with that and happy that gun murders happen.

Please show me a quote that the NRA actually likes this shooting. You are an absolute asshole and if anyone would like it, it would be those that want gun control. You were such a better poster when you stuck to RIP threads.

ShaneFalco
10-02-2017, 11:53 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You can see gun fire from one of the lower hotel room windows in this video. Let me know if you need a higher resolution one <a href="https://t.co/Fe5jkzkMrY">pic.twitter.com/Fe5jkzkMrY</a></p>&mdash; Dan Bilzerian (@DanBilzerian) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanBilzerian/status/914793975478870016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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broncocalijohn
10-02-2017, 12:19 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You can see gun fire from one of the lower hotel room windows in this video. Let me know if you need a higher resolution one <a href="https://t.co/Fe5jkzkMrY">pic.twitter.com/Fe5jkzkMrY</a></p>&mdash; Dan Bilzerian (@DanBilzerian) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanBilzerian/status/914793975478870016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Dan is a moron who has a ton of money thanks to his criminal father. I don't see anything from a lower window. Two windows, on the same floor, were shot out.

ShaneFalco
10-02-2017, 12:33 PM
Dan is a moron who has a ton of money thanks to his criminal father. I don't see anything from a lower window. Two windows, on the same floor, were shot out.

i dont know who he is.

But if you take that video full screen, you can see muzzle flashes in the lower to middle section from the hotel. To the left of the 2nd pole in the middle of the video.

I dont know if its just a reflection or not.

Just speculation.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2017, 12:39 PM
i dont know who he is.

But if you take that video full screen, you can see muzzle flashes in the lower to middle section from the hotel. To the left of the 2nd pole in the middle of the video.

I dont know if its just a reflection or not.

Just speculation.

Anticipated "Jonesplanation" from Choda:

The mystery muzzle flashes were caused by Hillary and Obama firing their M-16s.

The entire attack was just a false flag orchestrated by Democrats in order to create a pretext for "confiscating" all your guns.

Pontius Pirate
10-02-2017, 01:15 PM
Please show me a quote that the NRA actually likes this shooting. You are an absolute a-hole and if anyone would like it, it would be those that want gun control. You were such a better poster when you stuck to RIP threads.

At best, the NRA flag out doesn't care. They typically don't say anything at all after a mass shooting.

More likely, they know that what happens after a mass shooting is that the gun industry does very well financially. And so they like that.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/02/gun-stocks-rise-after-deadly-las-vegas-shooting.html

Pontius Pirate
10-02-2017, 01:28 PM
America really won't care at all about this in a week. Dems will make a show about gun control, NRA advocates will say gun control doesn't do anything or makes gun violence worse, and then the media cycle will forget it until the next mass shooting.

Here's my question: what level of horrific gun massacre will it take for us as a country to finally and meaningfully do something about gun violence?

Pontius Pirate
10-02-2017, 01:33 PM
You don't even need a permit to buy a gun in LV

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/health/nevada-gun-laws-trnd/index.html

cutthemdown
10-02-2017, 01:38 PM
Anticipated "Jonesplanation" from Choda:

The mystery muzzle flashes were caused by Hillary and Obama firing their M-16s.

The entire attack was just a false flag orchestrated by Democrats in order to create a pretext for "confiscating" all your guns.

Leave to ****twads like you to bring this **** into it.

GameChanger
10-02-2017, 01:56 PM
America really won't care at all about this in a week. Dems will make a show about gun control, NRA advocates will say gun control doesn't do anything or makes gun violence worse, and then the media cycle will forget it until the next mass shooting.

Here's my question: what level of horrific gun massacre will it take for us as a country to finally and meaningfully do something about gun violence?

If these gun fanatics would stop equating gun control with banning guns we might get somewhere.

Agamemnon
10-02-2017, 02:02 PM
If these gun fanatics would stop equating gun control with banning guns we might get somewhere.

That'll never happen.

Rohirrim
10-02-2017, 02:06 PM
If these gun fanatics would stop equating gun control with banning guns we might get somewhere.

The Right in America is binary; It's all this, or all that. Period.

Pontius Pirate
10-02-2017, 02:18 PM
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El Minion
10-02-2017, 02:31 PM
Until it happens to them....


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Old Dude
10-02-2017, 03:08 PM
This guy Paddock lived in Mesquite, NV, home of Cliven Bundy and the scene of the armed militia vs. the BLM back in March, 2014. Very tenuous connection, dunno.

I was wondering about that as well, but he doesn't seem to fit the bill:

None of the targets had anything to do with feds.

Lived in a gated retirement community and made most of his money off apartment buildings that he owned and managed in Florida.

Not a rancher or connected with that community - was primarily an accountant.

Not a long-time resident of Mesquite. Public records show him with 27 different residences in California, Nevada and Texas.

Agamemnon
10-02-2017, 04:27 PM
Until it happens to them....


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/0NFjHf3PW2">pic.twitter.com/0NFjHf3PW2</a></p>&mdash; Caleb Keeter (@Calebkeeter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Calebkeeter/status/914872808110510080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Reality came and took a **** on that guy's fantasy where he would get in a shootout with some crazy and save the day. You have to laugh at all these grown men with the emotional maturity of teenage boys who think a gun makes them Dirty Harry.

ShaneFalco
10-02-2017, 04:34 PM
CBS fires vice president who said Vegas victims didn't deserve sympathy because country music fans 'often are Republican'



https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/10cdf06a-b2db-3d0d-9483-2d5e268c03bb/ss_cbs-fires-vice-president-who.html

cutthemdown
10-02-2017, 04:55 PM
CBS fires vice president who said Vegas victims didn't deserve sympathy because country music fans 'often are Republican'



https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/10cdf06a-b2db-3d0d-9483-2d5e268c03bb/ss_cbs-fires-vice-president-who.html

Unreal someone would say that in today's get fired for what you say climate.

cutthemdown
10-02-2017, 04:57 PM
Reality came and took a **** on that guy's fantasy where he would get in a shootout with some crazy and save the day. You have to laugh at all these grown men with the emotional maturity of teenage boys who think a gun makes them Dirty Harry.

My dad's good friend was on the road to Vegas in the late 80's when he pulled over to help some stranded motorists. They were actually Highwaymen, he pulled his gun and they ran off into the desert.

Are you going to stop a mass shooting while at a concert w/your firearm? Most likely no, but they still have a great use for self defense.

cutthemdown
10-02-2017, 04:58 PM
I was wondering about that as well, but he doesn't seem to fit the bill:

None of the targets had anything to do with feds.

Lived in a gated retirement community and made most of his money off apartment buildings that he owned and managed in Florida.

Not a rancher or connected with that community - was primarily an accountant.

Not a long-time resident of Mesquite. Public records show him with 27 different residences in California, Nevada and Texas.

Seems like he just snapped. I will be interested in if any evidence comes to light about possible depression, pills he may have been taking etc etc,.

swaiy
10-02-2017, 04:58 PM
Damn. There's a special place in hell for people like her smh.

swaiy
10-02-2017, 05:01 PM
Oh man, here we go with the mental health rationale... :oyvey:

peacepipe
10-02-2017, 05:10 PM
Seems like he just snapped. I will be interested in if any evidence comes to light about possible depression, pills he may have been taking etc etc,.

Seems all domestic/foreign terrorists snap at some point.

footstepsfrom#27
10-02-2017, 05:12 PM
Damn. There's a special place in hell for people like her smh.
Think that's crazy? Read this:

How far-right trolls named the wrong man as the Las Vegas shooter

By Abby Ohlheiser
October 2, 2017 at 4:50 PM

Geary Danley was not the gunman in Las Vegas who killed at least 50 people late Sunday. But for hours on the far-right Internet, would-be sleuths scoured Danley’s Facebook likes, family photographs and marital history to try to “prove” that he was.

Danley, according to an archived version of a Facebook page bearing that name, might have been married to a Marilou Danley. Police were looking for a woman by that name in the hours after the shooting, but later said they did not think she was involved. To name someone as a mass murderer based on that evidence would be irresponsible and dangerous. But that’s exactly what a portion of the far-right Internet did overnight.

The briefest look at the viral threads and tweets falsely naming Geary Danley as the attacker makes it easy to guess why a bunch of right-wing trolls latched on to him: His Facebook profile indicated that he might be a liberal.

Related: [At least 50 dead, more than 400 injured after shooting on Las Vegas Strip]

Authorities have since identified the gunman as Stephen Paddock, 64, who was later found dead in a hotel room on the Strip. His motives remain unknown. But the fake Danley story presented a complete, desirable package to the elements of the far-right Internet that spread it. That phony story quickly embedded itself into the algorithms of Google and Facebook, where sites promoting the rumor remained at the top of the results for anyone searching for Danley’s name.

In excited all-caps, one anonymous user on 4chan’s /pol/ board posted that Danley was a “REGISTERED DEMOCRAT!” The thread spread quickly, as did a crowdsourced wiki page about Danley on Everipedia that, according to its edit history, once said that “Geary opened fired [sic] on the 34th floor of the Mandalay Bay toward a concert happening across the street.”

The Everipedia article dedicated an entire section to what it alleged were Danley’s political views:

This narrative, backed by no evidence or confirmation of Danley’s involvement in the Las Vegas shooting, spread quickly. That Everipedia post had 77,000 views as of Monday morning, just hours after it was created. It has since been edited and no longer names Danley as the shooter. His personal photos, taken from Facebook, were still plastered all over the page.

More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/10/02/how-far-right-trolls-named-the-wrong-man-as-the-las-vegas-shooter/

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 06:13 PM
BTW, if anybody wants an automatic sear for their AR-15 platform, you can simply google it. There are dozens of sites on line that offer them (for only around $150). There are even You Tube videos that show you how to install them. A drum magazine is only about $126.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1405/6094/products/RWB_AR15100_530x388.jpg?v=1490016995

Illegal in Colorado due to James Eagan Holmes.

It was actually better he used one of those because it jammed.

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 06:15 PM
Unreal someone would say that in today's get fired for what you say climate.

Not really. There tends to be exceptions when it's liberals smearing whites, Christians, conservatives, and Trump supporters.

That one is actually a breath of fresh air.

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 06:16 PM
Seems like he just snapped. I will be interested in if any evidence comes to light about possible depression, pills he may have been taking etc etc,.

He clearly planned this well in advance, thus there is no "snapping" here.

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 06:19 PM
The NRA and gun industry doesn't care that 50+ people were just killed. Don't look to them for answers.

In fact, I'd say they are glad this happened. Gun sales just spiked in the wake of this event. You better believe the NRA and gun industry is happy with that and happy that gun murders happen.

What is it with you gun grabbers and these weird conspiracy theories potraying the NRA as the pinnacle of omnipotent evil with Washington on puppet strings?

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 06:19 PM
Seems all domestic/foreign terrorists snap at some point.

A disproportionate percentage of terrorism in the US is committed by Muslims. They don't "snap," they plan and kill.

rmsanger
10-02-2017, 06:27 PM
Would be nice to go through something without it being political. Just care about the people and not about your pet policy.

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 06:33 PM
Would be nice to go through something without it being political. Just care about the people and not about your pet policy.

The left have politicized everything because they want to attack the foundations of this country, its culture, and its founding demographic and destroy them all.

B-Large
10-02-2017, 06:47 PM
These kinds of shootings are the natural result of lax gun laws and nearly non-existent care for the mentally ill in this country. And no one is going to do a damn thing about either issue.

Do you feel the GOP refusal to entertain any changes to gun laws, or their push to sell health policies that don't cover mental health or much else is the better attribute?

W*GS
10-02-2017, 06:52 PM
The left have politicized everything because they want to attack the foundations of this country, its culture, and its founding demographic and destroy them all.

You're cute when you're in a tizzy.

gunns
10-02-2017, 06:52 PM
The left have politicized everything because they want to attack the foundations of this country, its culture, and its founding demographic and destroy them all.

From the beginning you've posted nothing but political posts including the one above. Not once have you expressed anything regarding the tragedy and loss of life, what families are going through especially with so many young people involved, which is by far more important than you possibly losing your guns. Which we ALL know isn't going to happen. I picture you barricaded in your home in fear of someone taking your guns. You're a piece of work and I'm ashamed to part of your race.

Agamemnon
10-02-2017, 06:59 PM
CBS fires vice president who said Vegas victims didn't deserve sympathy because country music fans 'often are Republican'



https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/10cdf06a-b2db-3d0d-9483-2d5e268c03bb/ss_cbs-fires-vice-president-who.html

Damn. Well deserved if true.

Agamemnon
10-02-2017, 07:37 PM
This is some really weird ****.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/portrait-mass-killer-details-dont-add-231217887.html

Maleficent
10-02-2017, 08:13 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The GOP insists that the Vegas shooter's gun arsenal is &quot;a right,&quot; but medical treatment for his 500+ survivors is merely &quot;a privilege.&quot;</p>&mdash; Desirina Boskovich (@thedesirina) <a href="https://twitter.com/thedesirina/status/914911683742699521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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GameChanger
10-02-2017, 08:13 PM
This is some really weird ****.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/portrait-mass-killer-details-dont-add-231217887.html

May have converted to Islam. Shocking

Maleficent
10-02-2017, 08:16 PM
Until it happens to them....


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/0NFjHf3PW2">pic.twitter.com/0NFjHf3PW2</a></p>&mdash; Caleb Keeter (@Calebkeeter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Calebkeeter/status/914872808110510080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Unbelievable.

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 08:23 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The GOP insists that the Vegas shooter's gun arsenal is &quot;a right,&quot; but medical treatment for his 500+ survivors is merely &quot;a privilege.&quot;</p>&mdash; Desirina Boskovich (@thedesirina) <a href="https://twitter.com/thedesirina/status/914911683742699521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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If she can show us in the Constitution where medical care is as inviolable as the right to keep and bear arms, she has an argument.

Until then, she's queefing.

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 08:24 PM
May have converted to Islam. Shocking

Well, it is true that the only ones that have been attacking concerts are ISIS.

Although I do have a retired police detective friend who thinks it was an Antifa type because he selected a country music crowd full of redneck white people. As the fired CBS exec said, such people are the most likely fans of country music and far more likely voted for Trump.

nyuk nyuk
10-02-2017, 08:26 PM
If these gun fanatics would stop equating gun control with banning guns we might get somewhere.

The Joyce Foundation bankrolls those so-called "we don't want to ban your guns" groups, and the Joyce Foundation is not shy about its desire to ban guns.

So, if they don't like being known by such company, then they shouldn't keep it.

What kind of "gun control" short of an outright ban would please you?

And why go after guns when other things that are abused like alcohol kill far more people? Are not Constitutional rights more important than vices?

Maleficent
10-02-2017, 08:32 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bill O'Reilly: Deadly Las Vegas mass shooting is &quot;the price of freedom&quot; <a href="https://t.co/bvVyBmPe0c">https://t.co/bvVyBmPe0c</a> <a href="https://t.co/C4wlTN4LOK">pic.twitter.com/C4wlTN4LOK</a></p>&mdash; The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/914959953466707969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Maleficent
10-02-2017, 08:36 PM
Trump signs bill reversing Obama rule to ban gun purchases by mentally ill

Updated 4:19 p.m. ET March 9, 2017

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/28/trump-sign-bill-blocking-obama-gun-rule/98484106/

Agamemnon
10-02-2017, 08:37 PM
May have converted to Islam. Shocking

https://i.imgur.com/lfL0UvH.gif

Maleficent
10-02-2017, 08:38 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NRA gave Donald Trump's campaign $30 million. THIRTY MILLION: <a href="https://t.co/Uk6SOvYFm3">https://t.co/Uk6SOvYFm3</a> <a href="https://t.co/ELWG1rrlNY">pic.twitter.com/ELWG1rrlNY</a></p>&mdash; Molly Knight (@molly_knight) <a href="https://twitter.com/molly_knight/status/914870318463836160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Arkie
10-02-2017, 08:46 PM
And why go after guns when other things that are abused like alcohol kill far more people? Are not Constitutional rights more important than vices?

Why not ban unhealthy food or lack of exercise?

Because everybody has a right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness--especially in the privacy of our own homes. The government isn't your mama. You don't need it to tell us what we can do in the privacy of our own homes.

gunns
10-02-2017, 08:47 PM
Trump signs bill reversing Obama rule to ban gun purchases by mentally ill

Updated 4:19 p.m. ET March 9, 2017

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/28/trump-sign-bill-blocking-obama-gun-rule/98484106/

Wants to make sure he ad Nyuk can have guns.

Agamemnon
10-02-2017, 08:50 PM
The Joyce Foundation bankrolls those so-called "we don't want to ban your guns" groups, and the Joyce Foundation is not shy about its desire to ban guns.

So, if they don't like being known by such company, then they shouldn't keep it.

What kind of "gun control" short of an outright ban would please you?

And why go after guns when other things that are abused like alcohol kill far more people? Are not Constitutional rights more important than vices?

I think I've finally reached the point where I just can't see you gun rights nuts as anything other than monsters. All that matters to you is yourself and your desires, no matter the cost. Bunch of ****ing psychopaths...

Agamemnon
10-02-2017, 08:52 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bill O'Reilly: Deadly Las Vegas mass shooting is &quot;the price of freedom&quot; <a href="https://t.co/bvVyBmPe0c">https://t.co/bvVyBmPe0c</a> <a href="https://t.co/C4wlTN4LOK">pic.twitter.com/C4wlTN4LOK</a></p>&mdash; The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/914959953466707969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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The people on the right are basically evil. Yeah, I said it. And I mean it. Yes it's mostly an unwitting evil born of barely functional brains, but it's evil all the same.

Maleficent
10-02-2017, 08:52 PM
Most likely, postpone for a week.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bill loosening silencer restrictions won't be coming for a vote anytime soon after Las Vegas, w/ <a href="https://twitter.com/BresPolitico?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BresPolitico</a> <a href="https://t.co/NDKeLVNUxW">https://t.co/NDKeLVNUxW</a></p>&mdash; Heather Caygle (@heatherscope) <a href="https://twitter.com/heatherscope/status/914934868815024128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Right now Republicans are trying to pass H.R.367 making silencers cheaper<br><br>Silencers make it harder to detect the source in a mass shooting.</p>&mdash; Mikel Jollett (@Mikel_Jollett) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/914845028543025152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Garcia Bronco
10-02-2017, 09:12 PM
Wants to make sure he ad Nyuk can have guns.

it's state law in 47 states that people that have been deemed mentally deficient be reported to the nicb. so there's still a mechanism in place to report people.

GameChanger
10-02-2017, 09:19 PM
The Joyce Foundation bankrolls those so-called "we don't want to ban your guns" groups, and the Joyce Foundation is not shy about its desire to ban guns.

So, if they don't like being known by such company, then they shouldn't keep it.

What kind of "gun control" short of an outright ban would please you?

And why go after guns when other things that are abused like alcohol kill far more people? Are not Constitutional rights more important than vices?

Well this douche had to of acquired those guns illegally, so no amount of gun control was going to stop him. I just wish we could do something to at least cut down on gun violence. I do believe freedom is more important though.

Rohirrim
10-02-2017, 09:23 PM
The left have politicized everything because they want to attack the foundations of this country, its culture, and its founding demographic and destroy them all.

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/4/19/17/anigif_enhanced-buzz-10690-1366405616-9.gif

BTW, I think by "founding demographic" she means the anglos. :rofl:

Rohirrim
10-02-2017, 09:30 PM
This is some really weird ****.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/portrait-mass-killer-details-dont-add-231217887.html

Too much Taco Bell.

Meck77
10-02-2017, 10:19 PM
So in the same cnn segment I recorded and watched the swat officer says one of his men was shot confronting the shooter. Just 30 seconds later cnn reports the suspect was found dead by officers. Anyone else catch that? I watched my recording a couple times. Something doesn't match up?

Anyone see the interview of the girls who say a lady tried to warn them as they entered concert?

Also how does it take 112 minutes to figure out someone is shooting automatic rifles on your floor at a hotel?

Our college parties in Vegas usually got a complaint in 20 minutes or less.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2017, 10:29 PM
I think I've finally reached the point where I just can't see you gun rights nuts as anything other than monsters. All that matters to you is yourself and your desires, no matter the cost. Bunch of ****ing psychopaths...

That's just it: in the minds of these 2A revisionist adolescents, their individual rights always trump the common good, no matter what.

Meck77
10-02-2017, 10:30 PM
Ok. So I read online cnn report. Apparently he shot a security guard and then swat showed up and when they entered he was dead.

I guess that's consistent.

Rohirrim
10-02-2017, 10:31 PM
Waiting for Gaffo to come in with a "false flag" and "the Jews did it" explanation. Within a few days, no doubt Alex Jones will be blaming Hillary Clinton.

ZONA
10-02-2017, 11:23 PM
CBS fires vice president who said Vegas victims didn't deserve sympathy because country music fans 'often are Republican'



https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/10cdf06a-b2db-3d0d-9483-2d5e268c03bb/ss_cbs-fires-vice-president-who.html

I'm curious how some of the smartest people make the most stupid of all comments sometimes. I mean, somebody HAS to know when they post something like that on social media, they're gonna get fired, simple as that.

nyuk nyuk
10-03-2017, 12:33 AM
I'm curious how some of the smartest people make the most stupid of all comments sometimes. I mean, somebody HAS to know when they post something like that on social media, they're gonna get fired, simple as that.

Perhaps it's that you overestimated this woman's intelligence.

National media at this point is basically a good-old-boys club for liberals.

B-Large
10-03-2017, 06:02 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bill O'Reilly: Deadly Las Vegas mass shooting is &quot;the price of freedom&quot; <a href="https://t.co/bvVyBmPe0c">https://t.co/bvVyBmPe0c</a> <a href="https://t.co/C4wlTN4LOK">pic.twitter.com/C4wlTN4LOK</a></p>&mdash; The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/914959953466707969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I can respect being honest. I'd rather people just admit they don't care that these mass shootings happen, than to have them tweet their "sending my prayers" nonsense....

W*GS
10-03-2017, 06:15 AM
Waiting for Gaffo to come in with a "false flag" and "the Jews did it" explanation. Within a few days, no doubt Alex Jones will be blaming Hillary Clinton.

Alex Jones Says ‘Deep State’ Carried Out Las Vegas Massacre. Even His Staff Won’t Go Along With It. (https://www.thedailybeast.com/alex-jones-says-deep-state-carried-out-vegas-massacre-even-his-staff-wont-go-along-with-it)

And yes, O.J. Simpson is part of it.

W*GS
10-03-2017, 06:17 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bill O'Reilly: Deadly Las Vegas mass shooting is &quot;the price of freedom&quot; <a href="https://t.co/bvVyBmPe0c">https://t.co/bvVyBmPe0c</a> <a href="https://t.co/C4wlTN4LOK">pic.twitter.com/C4wlTN4LOK</a></p>&mdash; The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/914959953466707969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I said the same thing

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5075766&postcount=22

and nyuk got all bothered.

I wonder if he'll go after O'Lielly too...

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 06:17 AM
That's just it: in the minds of these 2A revisionist adolescents, their individual rights always trump the common good, no matter what.

Thank god i will never be on the same side as people who try to use government for "the greater good" while attempting to remove individual rights

rmsanger
10-03-2017, 06:22 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You can see gun fire from one of the lower hotel room windows in this video. Let me know if you need a higher resolution one <a href="https://t.co/Fe5jkzkMrY">pic.twitter.com/Fe5jkzkMrY</a></p>&mdash; Dan Bilzerian (@DanBilzerian) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanBilzerian/status/914793975478870016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I get it an all that the video appears to show muzzle flash but the only windows shot/broken out are on the 32nd floor. They don't have the type of windows you can slide/close. I'm sure the "2nd shooter" isn't a window guy nor hired a contractor in the night to repair it.

Plus there are several 911 calls from the hotel reporting loud auto gunfire from the 32nd floor but no calls released reporting a lower floor.

Rohirrim
10-03-2017, 06:25 AM
Alex Jones Says ‘Deep State’ Carried Out Las Vegas Massacre. Even His Staff Won’t Go Along With It. (https://www.thedailybeast.com/alex-jones-says-deep-state-carried-out-vegas-massacre-even-his-staff-wont-go-along-with-it)

And yes, O.J. Simpson is part of it.

If you're not exploiting the pain, you're not doing it right. It's the troll motto.

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 06:25 AM
I get it an all that the video appears to show muzzle flash but the only windows shot/broken out are on the 3rd floor. They don't have the type of windows you can slide/close. I'm sure the "2nd shooter" isn't a window guy nor hired a contractor in the night to repair it.

Plus there are several 911 calls from the hotel reporting loud auto gunfire from the 32md floor but no calls released reporting a lower floor.

yup. Could be a reflection from the upper floors as well.

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 06:26 AM
If you're not exploiting the pain, you're not doing it right. It's the troll motto.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The crowd fled at the sound of gunshots. <br><br>Imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer, which the NRA wants to make easier to get.</p>&mdash; Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) <a href="https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/914853465926639618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Rohirrim
10-03-2017, 06:28 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The crowd fled at the sound of gunshots. <br><br>Imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer, which the NRA wants to make easier to get.</p>&mdash; Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) <a href="https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/914853465926639618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Speaking of trolls...

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 06:29 AM
Thank god she isnt president right now

ghwk
10-03-2017, 06:49 AM
Thank god she isnt president right now

It’s Trumps fault. Just like it would have been if Obama were in office. Where’s the outrage Shaney boy?

Rohirrim
10-03-2017, 07:28 AM
Only a matter of time before the usual suspects release (like spores) the propaganda narrative that, once again, the libruls are to blame. The true enemy of 'Murica are those who want the madness to end. Those who want to apply any kind of consciousness to society are an evil. They support the killers! While the real heroes in the NRA stand up for freedom! (the freedom to indulge in mass murder). Ammunition is freedom! Death is liberty! War is peace!

And the little Trump minions will spoon it into their mouths like candy.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=66682&dateline=1478736602

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 09:05 AM
Thank god i will never be on the same side as people who try to use government for "the greater good" while attempting to remove individual rights

^

Case in point.

Typical adolescent "libertarian."

"Only my individual rights matter. Screw everybody else."

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 09:08 AM
^

Case in point.

Typical adolescent "libertarian."

"Only my individual rights matter. Screw everybody else."

Using government for "the greater good" has created some of the worst situations in mankinds history. Democide/Genocide on a massive scale.

Thats really what you hate about the Libertarians. We actually understand how individual rights matter more to a society then all the goodwill "intentions" in the world.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 09:15 AM
If she can show us in the Constitution where medical care is as inviolable as the right to keep and bear arms, she has an argument.

Until then, she's queefing.

The right to privacy isn't mentioned in the Constitution either.

Are you going to argue that the right to privacy and any number of other rights we have come to take for granted since the Constitution was written are 'not really rights' based on similar logic?

Furthermore, you might be familiar with that little thing about "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" in the DOI...?

You really didn't think this through, did you?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 09:20 AM
Using government for "the greater good" has created some of the worst situations in mankinds history. Democide/Genocide on a massive scale.


You must really hate America, then. :oyvey:

Thats really what you hate about the Libertarians. We actually understand how individual rights matter more to a society then all the goodwill "intentions" in the world.

This is just a euphemism for "we're selfish, immature jerks who couldn't care less about how our individual actions impact the rest of society."

Rohirrim
10-03-2017, 09:24 AM
Using government for "the greater good" has created some of the worst situations in mankinds history. Democide/Genocide on a massive scale.

Thats really what you hate about the Libertarians. We actually understand how individual rights matter more to a society then all the goodwill "intentions" in the world.

Libertarianism is nothing more than a fantasy based on the ludicrous idea that selfish people acting in their own selfish interests will somehow, miraculously, fart out a just society.

That "greater good" you despise is actually in the first line of the preamble to the Constitution, btw.

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 09:36 AM
It was a preamble to a document that listed Amendments that PROTECTED INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS of the people FROM GOVERNMENT.

The founders understood the greater good for society as a whole, was protecting individual rights. Not reaction from the mob, every time something bad happens.

When will you?

You clearly dont give a **** about surveillance without a warrant from your remarks in the past. So i dont know why anyone should expect you to care about the 2nd amendment, or individual rights at all.

BroncoBeavis
10-03-2017, 09:39 AM
That "greater good" you despise is actually in the first line of the preamble to the Constitution, btw.

Because 'the greater good' is like most ideals. Important in the right spirit. Dangerous as a justification.

Rohirrim
10-03-2017, 09:47 AM
Because 'the greater good' is like most ideals. Important in the right spirit. Dangerous as a justification.

Right now, in America, the greater good means 'What is good for corporations' as far as I can tell.

Rohirrim
10-03-2017, 09:48 AM
It was a preamble to a document that listed Amendments that PROTECTED INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS of the people FROM GOVERNMENT.

The founders understood the greater good for society as a whole, was protecting individual rights. Not reaction from the mob, every time something bad happens.

When will you?

You clearly dont give a **** about surveillance without a warrant from your remarks in the past. So i dont know why anyone should expect you to care about the 2nd amendment, or individual rights at all.

Which remark?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 09:50 AM
It was a preamble to a document that listed Amendments that PROTECTED INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS of the people FROM GOVERNMENT.


Nope. :oyvey:

Just more easily-refuted revisionist bull****.

BroncoBeavis
10-03-2017, 09:53 AM
Right now, in America, the greater good means 'What is good for corporations' as far as I can tell.

It means whatever the definer wants it to mean... which is the whole point.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 09:57 AM
It means whatever the definer wants it to mean... which is the whole point.

Which "definer?"

How about the "definer" who proposes that things like clean air, clean water, courts of law, hospitals and Interstate highway systems serve the greater good?

Rohirrim
10-03-2017, 09:57 AM
It means whatever the definer wants it to mean... which is the whole point.

What they specifically said was "general welfare." That's pretty self-explanatory. It means the good of the majority of the people, as opposed to say, gearing your economy to serve the interests of a tiny sliver of the population.

nyuk nyuk
10-03-2017, 10:01 AM
What they specifically said was "general welfare." That's pretty self-explanatory. It means the good of the majority of the people, as opposed to say, gearing your economy to serve the interests of a tiny sliver of the population.

And modern liberals take that to mean large social spending projects and so forth, which didn't exist before the 20th century. Thus, they're twisting the term "general welfare" into something it was never intended to be.

Context matters.

Requiem
10-03-2017, 10:01 AM
What they specifically said was "general welfare." That's pretty self-explanatory. It means the good of the majority of the people, as opposed to say, gearing your economy to serve the interests of a tiny sliver of the population.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

BroncoBeavis
10-03-2017, 10:02 AM
What they specifically said was "general welfare." That's pretty self-explanatory. It means the good of the majority of the people, as opposed to say, gearing your economy to serve the interests of a tiny sliver of the population.

I can believe whatever I want is for the 'good of the majority'

Which is how you'll see virtually every tyrannical regime in history frame itself.

Ask the "People's Republic of Korea" :)

nyuk nyuk
10-03-2017, 10:02 AM
Nope. :oyvey:

Just more easily-refuted revisionist bull****.

Interpreting the "general welfare" to "big social spending programs" is revisionist bull****.

nyuk nyuk
10-03-2017, 10:05 AM
Alex Jones Says ‘Deep State’ Carried Out Las Vegas Massacre. Even His Staff Won’t Go Along With It. (https://www.thedailybeast.com/alex-jones-says-deep-state-carried-out-vegas-massacre-even-his-staff-wont-go-along-with-it)

And yes, O.J. Simpson is part of it.

No it was clearly a cisgendered privileged white male upset at losing his privilege and position as global supremacist oppressor.

ShiftyEyedWaterboy
10-03-2017, 10:05 AM
I'm curious how some of the smartest people make the most stupid of all comments sometimes. I mean, somebody HAS to know when they post something like that on social media, they're gonna get fired, simple as that.

Education doesn't equal intelligence.

BroncoBeavis
10-03-2017, 10:06 AM
Anyway, I think the good compromise here is that the bump stocks and other automatic mod kits should be illegal.

I mean it makes no sense to have full autos be illegal but kits designed to blur the line be cheap and easy.

Rohirrim
10-03-2017, 10:08 AM
And modern liberals take that to mean large social spending projects and so forth, which didn't exist before the 20th century. Thus, they're twisting the term "general welfare" into something it was never intended to be.

Context matters.

Yeah, like the Hoover Dam, the Golden Gate bridge, and a system of national highways. Damn those oppressive bastards!

BroncoBeavis
10-03-2017, 10:08 AM
Education doesn't equal intelligence.

Plus many of these entities are such echo chambers that they start to lose their sense of decorum. Mix it with tragedy and that which would've been chuckled over when nobody paid any attention suddenly blows up in a national spotlight.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 10:08 AM
And modern liberals take that to mean large social spending projects and so forth, which didn't exist before the 20th century. Thus, they're twisting the term "general welfare" into something it was never intended to be.

Context matters.

If you understood context, then you'd interpret the "large social spending projects" to which you are alluding in the context of the response to the conditions that gave rise to the Great Depression. Those conditions were a manifestation of extreme disregard for the common good or common welfare.

Rohirrim
10-03-2017, 10:11 AM
I can believe whatever I want is for the 'good of the majority'

Which is how you'll see virtually every tyrannical regime in history frame itself.

Ask the "People's Republic of Korea" :)

Reductio ad absurdum.

rmsanger
10-03-2017, 10:16 AM
Wish my boy GJ was pres!


Sunday night, a maniac in a hotel room in Las Vegas took at least 59 innocent lives and injured hundreds more. We will struggle to make sense of it, but there may not be any way to understand such a senseless, murderous act. Our hearts and thoughts are with the victims, their families, the heroes, the first responders, and the great people of Las Vegas. These are the trying times when America's greatness is on full display.

BroncoBeavis
10-03-2017, 10:18 AM
Reductio ad absurdum.

Not absurd at all.

Just my and your definitions alone of 'good of the people' would be drastically different.

Which view bears fruit is only a product of which opinion-holder wields more power.

But that power itself does nothing to legitimize either opinion.

nyuk nyuk
10-03-2017, 10:22 AM
Reductio ad absurdum.

A valid point. The worst butchers in human history have been left wing regimes established to construct the utopian vision of Marx.

BroncoBeavis
10-03-2017, 10:28 AM
A valid point. The worst butchers in human history have been left wing regimes established to construct the utopian vision of Marx.

The People's This and The People's That

at the end of the day all in service to the comfort of the few that grabbed hold of power.

The founding fathers knew it. Which is why they wanted the power in their system crowdsourced. Giving us the clear Constitutional order we have today.

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 10:32 AM
The People's This and The People's That

at the end of the day all in service to the comfort of the few that grabbed hold of power.

The founding fathers knew it. Which is why they wanted the power in their system crowdsourced. Giving us the clear Constitutional order we have today.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/clZ5pdrc_X8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

ghwk
10-03-2017, 10:36 AM
Thank god i will never be on the same side as people who try to use government for "the greater good" while attempting to remove individual rights

Exercise and sunlight. You should try them sometime.

Agamemnon
10-03-2017, 11:27 AM
And modern liberals take that to mean large social spending projects and so forth, which didn't exist before the 20th century. Thus, they're twisting the term "general welfare" into something it was never intended to be.

Context matters.

Except when it comes to the 2nd amendment, right?

Agamemnon
10-03-2017, 11:28 AM
The People's This and The People's That

at the end of the day all in service to the comfort of the few that grabbed hold of power.

The founding fathers knew it. Which is why they wanted the power in their system crowdsourced. Giving us the clear Constitutional order we have today.

That seems to have failed completely at this point.

Pontius Pirate
10-03-2017, 11:35 AM
If left to a vote, America would adopt stricter gun controls.

In fact, NV (which is near the bottom of the gun deaths per 100,000) voted for gun controls - and then the state didn't enforce it:

http://www.governing.com/topics/public-justice-safety/lc-las-vegas-shooting-nevada-background-checks-ballot.html

Pontius Pirate
10-03-2017, 11:37 AM
The founding fathers knew it. Which is why they wanted the power in their system crowdsourced. Giving us the clear Constitutional order we have today.

Our govt today, regardless of your politics, is laughable. I'd think twice before making the claim that the founding fathers efforts netted us a governing system today that is a model govt.

I mean FFS look at the current sh*tstorm in office.

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 12:09 PM
Las Vegas gunman filmed himself during slaughter (http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/las-vegas-gunman-filmed-himself-during-slaughter/)

BroncoBeavis
10-03-2017, 12:22 PM
That seems to have failed completely at this point.

Ultimately if the people fail, the system does.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/11/10/the-dance-of-the-dunces-trump-clinton-election-republican-democrat/

W*GS
10-03-2017, 12:25 PM
Thoughts and Prayers (https://whatever.scalzi.com/2016/06/12/thoughts-and-prayers)

BroncoBeavis
10-03-2017, 12:26 PM
Except when it comes to the 2nd amendment, right?

Not really. We're the ones who can quote the Federalist ad nauseum while others are forced into circling wagons around one word and a comma.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 01:01 PM
https://s1.postimg.org/552vpt3sen/IMG_6611.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 01:23 PM
Not really. We're the ones who can quote the Federalist ad nauseum while others are forced into circling wagons around one word and a comma.

Typical conservative reading of the Constitution...

https://s1.postimg.org/6vuuc0ogn3/IMG_6618.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 01:37 PM
A valid point. The worst butchers in human history have been left wing regimes established to construct the utopian vision of Marx.

Your pals the Nazis were "left wing?" ::)

At any rate, another day, another disingenuous attempt to conflate Stalin with Gandhi.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 01:42 PM
It was a preamble to a document that listed Amendments that PROTECTED INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS of the people FROM GOVERNMENT.

The founders understood the greater good for society as a whole, was protecting individual rights. Not reaction from the mob, every time something bad happens.

When will you?

You clearly dont give a **** about surveillance without a warrant from your remarks in the past. So i dont know why anyone should expect you to care about the 2nd amendment, or individual rights at all.

You have it bass-ackwards.

You're a living testament to the brainwashing powers of right-wing media.

You're also a reliable barometer when we need to see just how far to the extreme right-wing fringe the "conservative movement" has drifted...

https://s1.postimg.org/5kqwx08njj/IMG_6619.jpg

nyuk nyuk
10-03-2017, 02:08 PM
Thoughts and Prayers (https://whatever.scalzi.com/2016/06/12/thoughts-and-prayers)

A radical leftist mocking people for praying. Shocking.

A radical leftist mocking people for not letting go of their 2nd Amendment rights due to individuals abusing them. Shocking.

nyuk nyuk
10-03-2017, 02:10 PM
You have it bass-ackwards.

You're a living testament to the brainwashing powers of right-wing media.

You're also a reliable barometer when we need to see just how far to the extreme right-wing fringe the "conservative movement" has drifted...


You're dismissed (http://davekopel.org/2A/Mags/crburger.htm).

Old Dude
10-03-2017, 02:12 PM
NRA-PVF TV ad scheduled to start today in Virginia has been postponed for one week.

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 02:15 PM
You're dismissed (http://davekopel.org/2A/Mags/crburger.htm).

https://media.giphy.com/media/9yFIuBVjeyFtC/giphy.gif

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 02:19 PM
You're dismissed.

That's exactly what Justice Burger would say to your ignorant ass.

https://s1.postimg.org/5kqwx08njj/IMG_6619.jpg

nyuk nyuk
10-03-2017, 02:23 PM
That's exactly what Justice Burger would say to your ignorant ass.



My link is a scholarly refutation by a Denver University School of Law professor that directly addressed Warren's weak rationale as he wrote in the Parade article you cited in your meme.

Of course that it's scholarly alone means you're going to avoid reading it.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2017, 02:30 PM
My link is a scholarly refutation by a Denver University School of Law professor that directly addressed Warren's weak rationale as he wrote in the Parade article you cited in your meme.

Of course that it's scholarly alone means you're going to avoid reading it.

L0L @ you thinking an article is, by definition, "scholarly" simply because its arguments dovetail with NRA propaganda and 2A revisionism.

Ha!

footstepsfrom#27
10-03-2017, 02:46 PM
My link is a scholarly refutation by a Denver University School of Law professor that directly addressed Warren's weak rationale as he wrote in the Parade article you cited in your meme.

Of course that it's scholarly alone means you're going to avoid reading it.
Kind of how like the Urban Dictionary is scholarly right? :wave:

W*GS
10-03-2017, 03:07 PM
A radical leftist mocking people for praying. Shocking.

Explain to me what's accomplished by prayer.

It has the same effect as changing one's profile picture on FB.

Slacktivism.

A radical leftist mocking people for not letting go of their 2nd Amendment rights due to individuals abusing them. Shocking.

Typical binary thinking.

That child porn isn't protected by the 1st Amendment doesn't mean we've "let it go".

Rohirrim
10-03-2017, 03:53 PM
That's exactly what Justice Burger would say to your ignorant ass.

https://s1.postimg.org/5kqwx08njj/IMG_6619.jpg

I'm afraid the modern trogs have no idea what this means.

swaiy
10-03-2017, 04:03 PM
So I'm starting to see the typical labels applied when the shooter belongs to a certain demographic.

You know the ones. Mental illness, lone wolf, etc. Goddamnit that pisses me off.

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 04:19 PM
So I'm starting to see the typical labels applied when the shooter belongs to a certain demographic.

You know the ones. Mental illness, lone wolf, etc. Goddamnit that pisses me off.

Sure Shaun King.

swaiy
10-03-2017, 04:29 PM
Sure Shaun King.

https://media.giphy.com/media/HbkT5F5CiRD3O/giphy.gif

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 04:38 PM
you literally got that talking point from his latest article.

broncocalijohn
10-03-2017, 04:46 PM
Kind of how like the Urban Dictionary is scholarly right? :wave:

More than "Footsteps interpretation of words, meanings and phrases" guideline.

Meck77
10-03-2017, 05:02 PM
You! No you! You!

swaiy
10-03-2017, 05:08 PM
you literally got that talking point from his latest article.

Let me go ahead and skip the semantics.

You assumed because I am black, I follow Shaun King. Help me sort this out. There are two likely scenarios, which one is it?

A). When I posted how I felt, you immediately googled Shaun King's most recent articles so you could post EXACTLY what you just


B). You "stumbled" upon his latest article because you secretly just wanted to know how black people felt about the shooting for the sole purpose of debating it here.


While I do keep myself current various writers, I can think for myself. What an amazing concept! What King said is nothing new. This literally happens every time there is a mass shooting. The white shooter is humanized while anyone having a single iota of melanin is immediately dehumanized.

If he was M.E. his face would have been instantly plastered all over the news and the world would know that he was a monster. The words "possible terrorist attack" would be on all stations.

So please, continuing assuming that all black people are incapable of producing an original thought that might be shared with other black people who have lived similar experiences.


8======D

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 05:10 PM
Let me go ahead and skip the semantics.

You assumed because I am black, I follow Shaun King. Help me sort this out. There are two likely scenarios, which one is it?

A). When I posted how I felt, you immediately googled Shaun King's most recent articles so you could post EXACTLY what you just


B). You "stumbled" upon his latest article because you secretly just wanted to know how black people felt about the shooting for the sole purpose of debating it here.


While I do keep myself current various writers, I can think for myself. What an amazing concept! What King said is nothing new. This literally happens every time there is a mass shooting. The white shooter is humanized while anyone having a single iota of melanin is immediately dehumanized.

If he was M.E. his face would have been instantly plastered all over the news and the world would know that he was a monster. The words "possible terrorist attack" would be on all stations.

So please, continuing assuming that all black people are incapable of producing an original thought that might be shared with other black people who have lived similar experiences.


8======D

The White Privilege of the “Lone Wolf” Shooter

https://theintercept.com/2017/10/02/lone-wolf-white-privlege-las-vegas-stephen-paddock/

Hilarious!

swaiy
10-03-2017, 05:12 PM
The White Privilege of the “Lone Wolf” Shooter

https://theintercept.com/2017/10/02/lone-wolf-white-privlege-las-vegas-stephen-paddock/

Hilarious!

:oyvey:

You are doing everything but disputing the points....


The only reason I don't have your ignorant ass on ignore is because you are an infinite source of laughter after a good bowl. Hilarious!

El Minion
10-03-2017, 05:30 PM
So I'm starting to see the typical labels applied when the shooter belongs to a certain demographic.

You know the ones. Mental illness, lone wolf, etc. Goddamnit that pisses me off.

https://i.redd.it/45k9l1ekqlpz.png

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 05:34 PM
Nice try minion.

Kap is Protesting the police who stopped the guy who shot 600 people.



http://www.kiro7.com/news/michael-bennett-tweet-vegas-police-encounter/604061452
Colin Kaepernick stands with Michael Bennett, calls police encounter ‘disgusting'



Within hours of the letter and video surfacing, Bennett -- who has recently remained seated during the national anthem prior to football games -- was trending on Twitter (https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Michael%20Bennett%22&src=tren) with many calling the incident infuriating.
Free agent and former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who started the national anthem protest, was among those who supported Bennett.
“This violation that happened against my Brother Michael Bennett is disgusting and unjust. I stand with Michael and I stand with the people,” he wrote.

swaiy
10-03-2017, 05:41 PM
Oh and Shane.

Seems like he just snapped. I will be interested in if any evidence comes to light about possible depression, pills he may have been taking etc etc,.

Oh man, here we go with the mental health rationale... :oyvey:

This was 7PM on Monday so don't act like I'm just now mentioning it.

swaiy
10-03-2017, 05:59 PM
Nice try minion.

Kap is Protesting the police who stopped the guy who shot 600 people.



http://www.kiro7.com/news/michael-bennett-tweet-vegas-police-encounter/604061452
Colin Kaepernick stands with Michael Bennett, calls police encounter ‘disgusting'



Within hours of the letter and video surfacing, Bennett -- who has recently remained seated during the national anthem prior to football games -- was trending on Twitter (https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Michael%20Bennett%22&src=tren) with many calling the incident infuriating.
Free agent and former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who started the national anthem protest, was among those who supported Bennett.
“This violation that happened against my Brother Michael Bennett is disgusting and unjust. I stand with Michael and I stand with the people,” he wrote.

What the **** are you talking about lmao Hilarious!

That picture minion posted was Marcus Peters... I'm weak ahahahabahaha

GameChanger
10-03-2017, 06:30 PM
This is kind of funny

https://www.google.com/amp/metro.co.uk/2017/10/03/trump-supporters-reaction-before-and-after-learning-las-vegas-shooter-was-white-american-6974317/amp/

Maleficent
10-03-2017, 06:50 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking: <a href="https://twitter.com/POTUS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@POTUS</a> says &quot;we'll be talking about gun laws as time goes by.&quot; He indicated now is not the time to discuss new legislation.</p>&mdash; Kristen Welker (@kwelkernbc) <a href="https://twitter.com/kwelkernbc/status/915191079934230528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For a man who took $30,000,000 from <a href="https://twitter.com/NRA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NRA</a>, it's never time to talk about strengthening gun laws. <a href="https://t.co/7adevhPola">https://t.co/7adevhPola</a></p>&mdash; igorvolsky (@igorvolsky) <a href="https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/915191335044419585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">McCONNELL dismisses talk of new gun laws after Vegas massacre: &quot;I think it's premature to be discussing legislative solutions.&quot;</p>&mdash; Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) <a href="https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/915280524633092096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One man just shot hundreds of innocent people. <br><br>But it's &quot;premature to be discussing&quot; the tools he used to do that. <br><br>What a coward. <a href="https://t.co/hIsezUgNT5">https://t.co/hIsezUgNT5</a></p>&mdash; Jason Kander (@JasonKander) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/915282198152040448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Maleficent
10-03-2017, 06:53 PM
NRA-PVF TV ad scheduled to start today in Virginia has been postponed for one week.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NRA estimating that it will take 8 days for everyone to forget about this so they can resume bankrolling politicians <a href="https://t.co/EyPE1at6oo">https://t.co/EyPE1at6oo</a></p>&mdash; Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/914887282745905154?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Maleficent
10-03-2017, 06:53 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It is a &quot;miracle&quot; how fast the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police were able to find the demented shooter and stop him from even more killing!</p>&mdash; Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/915371086249971712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Maleficent
10-03-2017, 06:55 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why is having an assault weapon more of a right than having healthcare in the USA</p>&mdash; king Hune (@atilabcn) <a href="https://twitter.com/atilabcn/status/915308227537104896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Maleficent
10-03-2017, 07:02 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ATF confirms 12 bump fire stocks in the weapons found in the hotel room <a href="https://t.co/9YxtaR8a1w">pic.twitter.com/9YxtaR8a1w</a></p>&mdash; Salvador Hernandez (@SalHernandez) <a href="https://twitter.com/SalHernandez/status/915384115955773440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">47 firearms retrieved so far in Las Vegas shooting investigation, bought in California, Texas, Utah and Nevada</p>&mdash; Salvador Hernandez (@SalHernandez) <a href="https://twitter.com/SalHernandez/status/915384367261687808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Maleficent
10-03-2017, 07:13 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congressional Republicans: GUN LAWS WON'T STOP SHOOTINGS<br><br>Also Congressional Republicans: ABORTION LAWS WILL STOP ABORTIONS</p>&mdash; shauna (@goldengateblond) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldengateblond/status/914939377997901824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Maleficent
10-03-2017, 07:16 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is Jonathan Smith. He saved 30 people last night before he was shot in the neck. I hope he'll get well soon! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/VegasStrong?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#VegasStrong</a> <a href="https://t.co/rc6kwhoHcr">pic.twitter.com/rc6kwhoHcr</a></p>&mdash; Jemisha Johnson (@jemisha_johnson) <a href="https://twitter.com/jemisha_johnson/status/914975730269859840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 09:59 PM
This guy literally had explosives in his car parked in the valet, and at his homes.

Why did he not use it?

BroncoBeavis
10-03-2017, 10:06 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why is having an assault weapon more of a right than having healthcare in the USA</p>&mdash; king Hune (@atilabcn) <a href="https://twitter.com/atilabcn/status/915308227537104896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Uhhhhhh, like the Bill of Rights or something?

ShaneFalco
10-03-2017, 10:18 PM
Still crying about assault weapons when the guy had explosives in his car.

ZONA
10-03-2017, 10:18 PM
Thoughts and Prayers (https://whatever.scalzi.com/2016/06/12/thoughts-and-prayers)

Everybody should read that. Screw thoughts and prayers, they're just a cowards way of dealing with these issues.

Great post.

Pontius Pirate
10-03-2017, 10:41 PM
Things that are certain after a mass shooting in America (of which 1500+ have happened since Sandy Hook and approx one per day each year):

1) the left will talk a big game and accomplish nothing re: expanded gun control

2) GOP politicians who take money from the gun lobby and NRA will tweet "thoughts and prayers"

3) the gun industry profits and stock index will spike

4) the right will defend the right for Americans to continue to have the same level of access to guns in order to ongoing perpetrate mass shootings

5) this board will say the same ole sh*t

ZONA
10-03-2017, 10:46 PM
Things that are certain after a mass shooting in America (of which 1500+ have happened since Sandy Hook and approx one per day each year):

1) the left will talk a big game and accomplish nothing re: expanded gun control

2) GOP politicians who take money from the gun lobby and NRA will tweet "thoughts and prayers"

3) the gun industry profits and stock index will spike

4) the right will defend the right for Americans to continue to have the same level of access to guns in order to ongoing perpetrate mass shootings

5) this board will say the same ole sh*t

6) When a Democrat is elected as POTUS, the righties will cry they are coming for your guns, even though gun sales rise every single year, no matter who is POTUS.




Fixed your post

Pontius Pirate
10-03-2017, 11:08 PM
Fixed your post

Good add

broncocalijohn
10-04-2017, 12:38 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why is having an assault weapon more of a right than having healthcare in the USA</p>&mdash; king Hune (@atilabcn) <a href="https://twitter.com/atilabcn/status/915308227537104896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Top tweet is hugely misrepresentative. I am pro gun and there are a few things that I would want banned so that would make me part of the 90%.

2nd amendment is part of our constitution. Healthcare in not. That is why it is "more of a right".

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-04-2017, 03:24 AM
Everybody should read that. Screw thoughts and prayers, they're just a cowards way of dealing with these issues.

Great post.

https://s1.postimg.org/1vf0l3v373/IMG_6628.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-04-2017, 03:30 AM
2nd amendment is part of our constitution. Healthcare in not. That is why it is "more of a right".

1) 2A doesn't guarantee the sort of carte blanche individual rights NRA mouthpieces think it does.

2) Not every right Americans take for granted today is mentioned in the Constitution (a lot has changed since that document was written.) This doesn't diminish a given right's validity.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-04-2017, 04:19 AM
Nice try minion.

Kap is Protesting the police who stopped the guy who shot 600 people.


Um, no, dumbass, he's not.

He's protesting the kind of cop who shot Philandro Castile, to name just one victim.

And, BTW, the police didn't stop Paddock - he killed himself.

https://s1.postimg.org/22d4p9obkf/IMG_6630.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-04-2017, 04:52 AM
https://s1.postimg.org/34jmgae5u7/IMG_6650.jpg

rmsanger
10-04-2017, 07:44 AM
https://i.redd.it/45k9l1ekqlpz.png

What an ignorant tweet... people are angry about rich entitled NFL players sitting for the anthem. People are beyond angry with vegas and would rip apart the shooter if still alive.

Rohirrim
10-04-2017, 07:55 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why is having an assault weapon more of a right than having healthcare in the USA</p>&mdash; king Hune (@atilabcn) <a href="https://twitter.com/atilabcn/status/915308227537104896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Those who can afford to buy lawmakers write the laws.

Maleficent
10-04-2017, 08:02 AM
Knew someone would bring that up.

Yes, they can amend the 2nd amendment.

Rohirrim
10-04-2017, 08:02 AM
Knew someone would bring that up.

Yes, they can amend the 2nd amendment.

Or they could just properly interpret it.

Maleficent
10-04-2017, 08:12 AM
Also it's harder to buy more than two boxes of Sudafed and they scan your ID. And if you buy too many, a cop will pay a visit.

While the LV asshole, can purchase 40plus guns.

rmsanger
10-04-2017, 08:42 AM
Here’s a video on bump stock how it works ease of instal and a demonstration of effectiveness. It’s a very easy solution to turn a semi auto ar into an almost equivalent to full auto. You can also buy 100 or 150 round drum mags to pair with this.

16 in barrel ar 15s have a relatively easy effective range of 500 yards with minimal training and practice.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U7DTjSla-O8

The crazy part is at the end of the video you see her shoot and night and the muzzle flash is almost a firework show. I’m not sure how the shooter in Vegas was able to use this solution and nobody was able to see the flash from the window.

El Guapo
10-04-2017, 09:11 AM
Apparently an individual that brought food up to the room posted a pic on facebook of a receipt for food for two people. The gf was already out of country.

Along with this,the sheriff has now stated that he may have been radicalized. Was he targeting Trump supporters (high demo of repub at a country concert)? The $100k he wired to the Philippines, was it for Al quaeda?

With the amount of cameras around Vegas it should be easy for the detectives to recreate a timeline and see if someone else was truly involved.

Pontius Pirate
10-04-2017, 09:23 AM
Apparently an individual that brought food up to the room posted a pic on facebook of a receipt for food for two people. The gf was already out of country.

Along with this,the sheriff has now stated that he may have been radicalized. Was he targeting Trump supporters (high demo of repub at a country concert)? The $100k he wired to the Philippines, was it for Al quaeda?

With the amount of cameras around Vegas it should be easy for the detectives to recreate a timeline and see if someone else was truly involved.

OR

He was a crazed white gun nut who wanted to kill people

http://abcnews.go.com/US/portrait-emerging-las-vegas-shooter-man-descending-madness/story?id=50275427

Pontius Pirate
10-04-2017, 09:26 AM
Paddock also scouted Chance The Rapper and Lorde concerts.

Let's see Trump fans make those concerts about them too.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/authorities-investigating-gunman-targeted-las-vegas-concert/story?id=50274253

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-04-2017, 09:26 AM
OR

He was a crazed white gun nut who wanted to kill people

http://abcnews.go.com/US/portrait-emerging-las-vegas-shooter-man-descending-madness/story?id=50275427

Who needs facts when you have the feel-good Breitbart version?

Drunken.Broncoholic2
10-04-2017, 09:28 AM
I'll never understand the left.


You say Trump is a facist tyrant a la moussolini, and yet you want to disarm yourselves and everyone else.


2nd amendment protects us from tyrannical govts. Other countries with a tyrant have no chance being unarmed.

Pontius Pirate
10-04-2017, 09:32 AM
I'll never understand the left.


You say Trump is a facist tyrant a la moussolini, and yet you want to disarm yourselves and everyone else.


2nd amendment protects us from tyrannical govts. Other countries with a tyrant have no chance being unarmed.

I'll never understand yogurt brains like this.

They conflate a desire for more effective gun control with disarming the populace.

Numbnuts, the vast majority of gun control up for debate is not about taking away guns. Look at the national journal graph covering the various gun control laws in each state and the states gun related deaths per 100,000

NONE of those gun laws are about taking away the countries guns.

JFC

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-04-2017, 09:33 AM
I'll never understand the left.


You say Trump is a facist tyrant a la moussolini, and yet you want to disarm yourselves and everyone else.


2nd amendment protects us from tyrannical govts. Other countries with a tyrant have no chance being unarmed.

L0L @ you thinking you're prepping for some kind of war against your own government.

This is America. If a president acts like a tyrant or oversteps his Constitutional authority, then we have remedies for that, e.g., impeachment.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
10-04-2017, 09:38 AM
L0L @ you thinking you're prepping for some kind of war against your own government.

This is America. If a president acts like a tyrant or oversteps his Constitutional authority, then we have remedies for that, e.g., impeachment.




Not what I'm told by Antifa.

Maleficent
10-04-2017, 09:40 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/two-strangers-bond-over-country-music-and-beer-then-the-shots-started/2017/10/03/d5d4541a-a846-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html

Two strangers bond over country music and beer. Then the gunshots started.

Read this article last night and still can't stop thinking of them. So much tears...😪😪

Heartbreaking

Drunken.Broncoholic2
10-04-2017, 09:41 AM
I'll never understand yogurt brains like this.

They conflate a desire for more effective gun control with disarming the populace.

Numbnuts, the vast majority of gun control up for debate is not about taking away guns. Look at the national journal graph covering the various gun control laws in each state and the states gun related deaths per 100,000

NONE of those gun laws are about taking away the countries guns.

JFC




You are naive to think the left doesn't want to confiscate all weapons.

Gtfo if you don't think people want to destroy the 2nd amendment.

It's not about making laws....there's already laws. There is no amount of laws that would've stopped this guy.


It's all about stripping the right to bear arms.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-04-2017, 09:44 AM
Not what I'm told by Antifa.

You say "Antifa" like it's some monolithic organization as opposed to a movement.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
10-04-2017, 09:45 AM
There's millions of semi and autos in circulation already.



What law is going to stop those guns?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-04-2017, 09:46 AM
You are naive to think the left doesn't want to confiscate all weapons.



You're brainwashed if you really believe this.

The right-wing echo chamber has been sounding this false alarm for decades - yet it has never happened.

Great marketing tool for the NRA, though.

Pontius Pirate
10-04-2017, 09:48 AM
You are naive to think the left doesn't want to confiscate all weapons.

Gtfo if you don't think people want to destroy the 2nd amendment.

It's not about making laws....there's already laws. There is no amount of laws that would've stopped this guy.


It's all about stripping the right to bear arms.

You need to quit huffing glue.

States that have more stringent gun laws on average have fewer gun related deaths. I'll post the graph if you'd like.

Pontius Pirate
10-04-2017, 09:50 AM
There's millions of semi and autos in circulation already.



What law is going to stop those guns?

Its almost as if you don't want to look at the graph.

Pontius Pirate
10-04-2017, 09:55 AM
Anyways, I'm just gonna keep posting this graph for the all the drunken gunaholics every time a mass shooting happens. Notice how none of these takes away your guns. Notice how far down the list Nevada is:

https://ethicsalarms.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/wholechart.png

Drunken.Broncoholic2
10-04-2017, 10:00 AM
Lmao



Read the fine print. SUICIDES


2/3 of all gun deaths in this country is suicide. No laws are going to stop someone from killing themselves. They'll find another way. How many are Gang violence homicides? Gangs are going to obey some new law?


Both those aspects heavily outweigh mass shootings, other homicides.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
10-04-2017, 10:01 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-used-to-think-gun-control-was-the-answer-my-research-told-me-otherwise/2017/10/03/d33edca6-a851-11e7-92d1-58c702d2d975_story.html



This article blows up your large post.

Chris
10-04-2017, 10:03 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/two-strangers-bond-over-country-music-and-beer-then-the-shots-started/2017/10/03/d5d4541a-a846-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html

Two strangers bond over country music and beer. Then the gunshots started.

Read this article last night and still can't stop thinking of them. So much tears...😪😪

Heartbreaking

That is awful

c_lazy_r
10-04-2017, 10:12 AM
Its almost as if you don't want to look at the graph.

Do you live in one of the more "controlled" states listed on your graph?