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Pontius Pirate
09-19-2017, 10:49 AM
If "forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea,” said insane person.

Ah this is going well folks. Mr. "Art of the Deal" is not backing himself into a corner at all!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-delegation-walks-u-155240122.html

El Minion
09-19-2017, 11:00 AM
And no one will take him seriously, America has no credibility when it comes to him

gunns
09-19-2017, 11:31 AM
I did watch and was astonished when he said that. Keep priming the pump Donny

Rohirrim
09-19-2017, 11:54 AM
President Donald Trump threatened Tuesday to "totally destroy" North Korea and its "Rocket Man" leader, warned the "murderous" Iranian government that it cannot endure, and declared that much of the world is "going to hell."

In his first speech to the U.N. General Assembly, Trump also urged nations to band together to fight "evil" — even as he extolled the virtue of respecting national sovereignty and insisted that America isn't looking to impose its "way of life" on others.


The at-times contradictory remarks were filled with soaring rhetoric that touched on everything from "God" to "chaos," and the dark tones were reminiscent of Trump's inaugural address, in which he promised to bring an end to "American carnage." The singling out of a handful of "rogue" nations also seemed to borrow from former President George W. Bush's "Axis of Evil" speech. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/19/trump-warns-against-authoritarian-regimes-in-un-speech-242876

I was going to start the same thread on this: This person is nuts. If this crazy man doesn't start WWIII, I don't know what will. Time to impeach.

Rohirrim
09-19-2017, 11:59 AM
He calls out for "multi-lateralism" to "...solve many of these vicious and complex problems" a few days after promising the U.S. will dump the Paris Climate Accords. :rofl:

B-Large
09-19-2017, 12:03 PM
Finally get to use some of those Warheads that have been left to rot in the silos... ^5

War is so Cool

Rohirrim
09-19-2017, 12:03 PM
Perhaps his biggest hypocrisy was on Iran. The U.S. did more to create modern Iran than anybody else. We threw down a popularly elected leader and replaced him with a vicious tyrant who was eventually overthrown by a fundamentalist religious cabal which would likely never existed except in reaction to Shah Pahlavi. He also doesn't mention that we support the same kind of anti-democratic regimes right now in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. The members of the UN must just sit there in disbelief. Our president is a fookin nut job.

Rohirrim
09-19-2017, 12:06 PM
Finally get to use some of those Warheads that have been left to rot in the silos... ^5

War is so Cool

Yeah. It will be so cool.

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DYA2J2/ww-ii-historical-war-world-war-second-world-war-germany-us-american-DYA2J2.jpg

B-Large
09-19-2017, 12:13 PM
Yeah. It will be so cool.

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DYA2J2/ww-ii-historical-war-world-war-second-world-war-germany-us-american-DYA2J2.jpg

Whats!!! Our Nukes won't leave buildings let alone bodies around... only vapor....

Rohirrim
09-19-2017, 12:13 PM
Whats!!! Our Nukes won't leave buildings let alone bodies around... only vapor....

Cool. We'll send your kids first. :thumbs:

B-Large
09-19-2017, 12:15 PM
Cool. We'll send your kids first. :thumbs:

I don't have kids... and you can't possible think my post was serious....

Rohirrim
09-19-2017, 12:27 PM
I don't have kids... and you can't possible think my post was serious....

The POTUS just stood on the floor of the UN and threatened to destroy North Korea. I guess I don't feel very humorous about it at the moment. I suppose I should try. Not much I can do about it. The world could use a reduction in human population, after all. We've been celebrating the Mad Max/zombie world in fiction for years. Even in the latest fiction, GoT, the Mad King dies chanting the words, "Burn them all!" Why not make it real? China has put together a massive army. It would be a shame to waste it.

ShaneFalco
09-19-2017, 01:07 PM
well we could just wait for them to nuke Japan....

or wait till they have ICBMs pointed at Washington.

ShaneFalco
09-19-2017, 01:12 PM
If "forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea,” said insane person.

Ah this is going well folks. Mr. "Art of the Deal" is not backing himself into a corner at all!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-delegation-walks-u-155240122.html

i personally think Newsweek should try to go setup their news agency is Pyongyang, and see how it works out.

Top comment in the comment section with 1,500 likes.

Newsweek does it again - a headline completely out of context - Trump's threat was clearly based on NK's threat to the US or its allies - sometimes I wonder if extreme left "journalists" like Newsweek prefer Kim's way of governing

Atwater His Ass
09-19-2017, 01:28 PM
Pretty good speech. Loved the slam on the UN bureaucracy, the calling out of Iran and calling socialism for what it is, a cruel failure everywhere it's been implemented fully.

Nothing wrong with what he said in regards to NK, Obozo and Bush had much the same rhetoric.. Although the "rocket man" moniker was more childish than it needs to be and takes away from the seriousness of the situation.

And can't argue that refugees need to go back to their lands and help with the rebuilding process, not be forever sanctioned in foreign countries across the world.

footstepsfrom#27
09-19-2017, 01:37 PM
But her emails!

ShaneFalco
09-19-2017, 01:51 PM
But Aleppo!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-19-2017, 02:18 PM
Nothing wrong with what he said in regards to NK...

So, when the shooting starts, you'll be the first on your block to visit your local armed forces recruiter then, right?

Oh, and will you please take ShaneSpicoli along with you?

Pontius Pirate
09-19-2017, 02:22 PM
i personally think Newsweek should try to go setup their news agency is Pyongyang, and see how it works out.

Top comment in the comment section with 1,500 likes.

Thats cool bro you're all about mutually assured destruction. I hear ya.

"This 1500 up-voted comment lays out a convincing case for brinksmanship"

LOL

Fear the Hawk
09-19-2017, 02:42 PM
But Aleppo!

What's a "leppo"? ;D

Rohirrim
09-19-2017, 03:00 PM
The Human **** Stain still has his supporters. It really doesn't matter what he does. The Idiocracy ascends!

Rohirrim
09-19-2017, 03:03 PM
New name for America: The Clown Castle

B-Large
09-19-2017, 03:19 PM
The POTUS just stood on the floor of the UN and threatened to destroy North Korea. I guess I don't feel very humorous about it at the moment. I suppose I should try. Not much I can do about it. The world could use a reduction in human population, after all. We've been celebrating the Mad Max/zombie world in fiction for years. Even in the latest fiction, GoT, the Mad King dies chanting the words, "Burn them all!" Why not make it real? China has put together a massive army. It would be a shame to waste it.

North Korea's leadership has raced for Nukes to preserve their regime. Someone who seeks to preserve their tyrannical reign is unlikely to begin a war that ensures it end.....

Rohirrim
09-19-2017, 03:20 PM
North Korea's leadership has raced for Nukes to preserve their regime. Someone who seeks to preserve their tyrannical reign is unlikely to begin a war that ensures it end.....

So, you're betting on a crazy person not to do something crazy? Okay. :thumbs:

rmsanger
09-19-2017, 03:20 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/F0I1V0iGYczQY/giphy.gif

Rohirrim
09-19-2017, 03:26 PM
We should revisit why WWI started. A bunch of little countries were rattling sabers at each other, a terrorist shot an arch-duke of one of the countries, all the major powers decided to take sides (for whatever reason) and the whole world descended into war. Nobody at the time could stop it. And nobody believed it could happen. But it did.

B-Large
09-19-2017, 03:37 PM
So, you're betting on a crazy person not to do something crazy? Okay. :thumbs:

There is no evidence he is "crazy", a crumby person and power hungry dictator yes. Flashing off his prowess to send a message, yes. I think we assume he is mentally ill, but twisted ideology doesn't mean crazy.

Rohirrim
09-19-2017, 04:04 PM
I don't think the American right will be happy until they've left this country in a smoking ruin.

69bronco
09-19-2017, 04:25 PM
It was a great speech. Same as it ever was sheeple, if chubby gets stupid, he'll be dealt with.

69bronco
09-19-2017, 04:27 PM
I don't think the American right will be happy until they've left this country in a smoking ruin.

When you say 'this country' do you mean your fake internet home country Canada or the actual place you live, USA? :giggle:

Pontius Pirate
09-19-2017, 04:27 PM
It was a great speech. Same as it ever was sheeple, if chubby gets stupid, Trump instigating war on the Korean peninsula will kill millions of people.

FYP

Garcia Bronco
09-19-2017, 04:56 PM
I didn't appreciate the President's tone in his speech to the UN today. However, I did like that he called out countries not flipping the bill for the UN. For the group, if you were President how would you deal with NK instigating the world by firing missiles over Japan and other threats/actions (like the Wanna Cry Virus)? Those actions have global impacts.

Pontius Pirate
09-19-2017, 05:12 PM
I didn't appreciate the President's tone in his speech to the UN today. However, I did like that he called out countries not flipping the bill for the UN. For the group, if you were President how would you deal with NK instigating the world by firing missiles over Japan and other threats/actions (like the Wanna Cry Virus)? Those actions have global impacts.

Well in the cold war, we "won" by isolating the USSR and letting it collapse under itself.

Garcia Bronco
09-19-2017, 05:17 PM
Well in the cold war, we "won" by isolating the USSR and letting it collapse under itself.

We've been doing that for decades. We can keep doing that, but I would that because missiles are being launched that we've passed that point.

Pontius Pirate
09-19-2017, 05:23 PM
We've been doing that for decades. We can keep doing that, but I would that because missiles are being launched that we've passed that point.

And for decades, we've had an armistice. It seems like now, under Trump, we're closer to millions of people perishing due to the brinksmanship of two leaders.

Smart leaders stay cool and collected and look for ways to de-escalate. Dumb, insecure, crazy, irrational leaders look to instigate and escalate.

Garcia Bronco
09-19-2017, 05:27 PM
And for decades, we've had an armistice. It seems like now, under Trump, we're closer to millions of people perishing due to the brinksmanship of two leaders.

Smart leaders stay cool and collected and look for ways to de-escalate. Dumb, insecure, crazy, irrational leaders look to instigate and escalate.

NK has been trying to possess nukes for decades. I am not sure Trump has anything to do with it. Though I agree that his tone and language is not helpful. Remeber too that some cultures only respect aggressive language. So, we've been using sanctions for decades and now they are launching missiles at other countries in the world. How do we handle it assuming that sanctions are no longer a viable option?

Atwater His Ass
09-19-2017, 08:20 PM
Trump will be left to clean up the NK mess thanks to his predecessors. It's a mess that has been cultivated over time by previous administrations, and the bill is now coming due.

Rohirrim
09-19-2017, 09:27 PM
Trump will be left to clean up the NK mess thanks to his predecessors. It's a mess that has been cultivated over time by previous administrations, and the bill is now coming due.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/ea515911d8c5c29d99393f2329698f0c/tumblr_n6xnfmNmCs1txlckto1_400.gif

gunns
09-20-2017, 12:22 AM
I didn't appreciate the President's tone in his speech to the UN today. However, I did like that he called out countries not flipping the bill for the UN. For the group, if you were President how would you deal with NK instigating the world by firing missiles over Japan and other threats/actions (like the Wanna Cry Virus)? Those actions have global impacts.

I may be wrong but I don't remember that happening before Trump began instigating. Would Trump have to deal with it if he hadn't instigate it? I understand the nuclear power needing to be dealt with but should it be done by name calling and boisterous behavior similar to Kim? Well, in the end, it's the military that has to deal with Trumps "I am King" mouth, not Trump.

TonyR
09-20-2017, 11:52 AM
If you want to see how deranged the right is, read the comments under this article (sort by "oldest"). It's an article about how crazy Kim Jong Un is but the commenters bizarrely turn it into attacks on Obama, Hillary, and the left. This is what we're up against. These are the people who put Trump in office. It's breathtaking.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/20/kim-jong-un-plucks-teen-sex-slaves-from-schools-north-korean-defector-reveals.html

ShaneFalco
09-20-2017, 01:36 PM
And for decades, we've had an armistice. It seems like now, under Trump, we're closer to millions of people perishing due to the brinksmanship of two leaders.

Smart leaders stay cool and collected and look for ways to de-escalate. Dumb, insecure, crazy, irrational leaders look to instigate and escalate.

you should stick to trolling, because you when you try to post seriously for a minute, its pretty embarrassing.

When a country(North Korea) launches a rocket into another countries airspace(Japan), that is not an armistice. Its an act of war.

gunns
09-20-2017, 02:07 PM
you should stick to trolling, because you when you try to post seriously for a minute, its pretty embarrassing.

When a country(North Korea) launches a rocket into another countries airspace(Japan), that is not an armistice. Its an act of war.

I stated in another post that I didn't remember this happening before. So maybe you can clear this up for me. Has NK launched a rocket over Japan before?

cutthemdown
09-20-2017, 02:36 PM
Big deal Obama and Hillary destroyed Libya and Syria. Trump just using the madman negotiating tactic but hasn't actually overthrown anyone like previous administrations.

cutthemdown
09-20-2017, 02:36 PM
I stated in another post that I didn't remember this happening before. So maybe you can clear this up for me. Has NK launched a rocket over Japan before?

Yes.

ShaneFalco
09-20-2017, 02:40 PM
they ****ing killed otto.

Returned him to the US in a coma.

And he died 6 days alter.

And people want to talk like Trumps rhetoric is the problem to a situation that has gone way past the breaking point.

These same posters who talk 24/7 about fighting nazis in ww2, suddenly lack the balls, when an American citizen is practically executed for taking down a propaganda poster.

They flip flop with the wind.

ShaneFalco
09-20-2017, 02:43 PM
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/c31b41eb459cbd1804638fc862b43d6a

Rohirrim
09-20-2017, 03:19 PM
you should stick to trolling, because you when you try to post seriously for a minute, its pretty embarrassing.

When a country(North Korea) launches a rocket into another countries airspace(Japan), that is not an armistice. Its an act of war.

Dung, and his ally (Putin) are trying to goad the US into shooting one down so they can see what tech we have. When I was in the infantry, we called this probing the lines.

swaiy
09-20-2017, 03:24 PM
they ****ing killed otto.

Returned him to the US in a coma.

And he died 6 days alter.

And people want to talk like Trumps rhetoric is the problem to a situation that has gone way past the breaking point.

These same posters who talk 24/7 about fighting nazis in ww2, suddenly lack the balls, when an American citizen is practically executed for taking down a propaganda poster.

They flip flop with the wind.

Taking down a propaganda poster in a country he has no business going to considering he was ignorant of their laws. I'm I'm not saying he deserved to die for making a stupid decision but, let's not act like him taking that poster down issa comparable to fighting in world war 2 lol.

Paladin
09-20-2017, 03:29 PM
well we could just wait for them to nuke Japan....

or wait till they have ICBMs pointed at Washington.

If they can hit the clown house, who cares? Good riddance!

Garcia Bronco
09-20-2017, 04:51 PM
I may be wrong but I don't remember that happening before Trump began instigating. Would Trump have to deal with it if he hadn't instigate it? I understand the nuclear power needing to be dealt with but should it be done by name calling and boisterous behavior similar to Kim? Well, in the end, it's the military that has to deal with Trumps "I am King" mouth, not Trump.

I repeat...Trump did not instigate them. They don't require it. They killed one of our citizens this year. http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/03/21/a-running-list-of-north-koreas-near-daily-threats-updated/

You can find links to all those threats in the link I provided. I reviewed most of them. Some are serious, some not, but they illustrate the level of crazy in the NK.


This is from 2013 from a two week period.

1. We now have "lighter and smaller" nukes, and we’re not afraid to use them against the United States.

2. Are you ready for the silent treatment? We just cut our military hotline with South Korea.

3. We also just tore up all previous non-aggression pacts with South Korea.

4. In response to these UN sanctions, we’re going to "exercise the right to a pre-emptive nuclear attack."

5. We’re ready for "all-out war."

6. We just invalidated the 1953 amristice, so anything’s fair game.

7. Seriously, that armistice agreement has been invalidated.

8. Now we’re sharply increasing the number of training flights for our fighter-jets.

9. Not impressed? How about we turn South Korea’s Baengyeong Island into a "sea of fire"?

10. Now we’re conducting live-fire drills near a disputed maritime border.

11. Just FYI, our military personnel are standing by to "annihilate the U.S. imperialist aggressors."

12. At this very moment, all of our citizens are singing a song about wiping out the "U.S. imperialists."

13. We’re so serious about going to war that we conducted a practice drone strike.

14. That’s it: We’re conducting air-raid drills.

15. We will order "strong military counter-action" if the U.S. conducts more B-52 bomber sorties.

16. Seriously, we’ll destroy your military bases in Japan and Guam if you fly one more B-52 bomber around here.

17. One more move and we’ll start taking hostages … American hostages.

18. Don’t mess with us, we just set our field artillery units to the "highest alert."

19. Remember when we cut our military hotline? Well we actually have another military hotline, but not anymore because we just cut that too.

20. Also, we’re going to let you in on a secret: We can now drop bombs on Hawaii, Washington, Austin, and Los Angeles.

21. Come to think of it, the U.S. mainland is like a "boiled pumpkin" vulnerable to attack.

22. Now we’re blocking access to the Kaesong industrial complex, which we may close off permanently if you don’t take us seriously.

23. We now have "final approval" to nuke the United States.

24. A word to the wise: Do not "misjudge the will of the army and people of the DPRK to annihilate enemies."

Garcia Bronco
09-20-2017, 04:52 PM
Taking down a propaganda poster in a country he has no business going to considering he was ignorant of their laws. I'm I'm not saying he deserved to die for making a stupid decision but, let's not act like him taking that poster down issa comparable to fighting in world war 2 lol.

There is no proof that the UVA student took down anything. He had no trial.

Garcia Bronco
09-20-2017, 04:58 PM
So back to the question:

Sanctions haven't worked and now NK is belligerent launching missiles over and near you and your allies stating the intent to destroy you. The past 5 Presidents have kicked the can down the road. You are the President of the US. How are you going to handle it? All options are on the table.

footstepsfrom#27
09-20-2017, 05:20 PM
So back to the question:

Sanctions haven't worked and now NK is belligerent launching missiles over and near you and your allies stating the intent to destroy you. The past 5 Presidents have kicked the can down the road. You are the President of the US. How are you going to handle it? All options are on the table.
Given that we should have left S. Korea years ago now seems like the perfect time to get out. N.Korea wouldn't give a damn about us if we weren't over there. The South Koreans are capable of defending their own country. We can no longer afford to police the entire world.

Garcia Bronco
09-20-2017, 05:30 PM
Given that we should have left S. Korea years ago now seems like the perfect time to get out. N.Korea wouldn't give a damn about us if we weren't over there. The South Koreans are capable of defending their own country. We can no longer afford to police the entire world.

So you would leave SK to its own and you think that would appease North Korea and they would play nice with everyone. In that scenario, what if the NKs pivot to Japan? How does it solve the problem of NK having nuclear missiles? It's not just the US that they are threatening. Further, I think we would have an influx of SK people to the US and other countries. It's a solution, but I don't think it solves the problem.

footstepsfrom#27
09-20-2017, 05:48 PM
So you would leave SK to its own and you think that would appease North Korea and they would play nice with everyone. In that scenario, what if the NKs pivot to Japan? How does it solve the problem of NK having nuclear missiles? It's not just the US that they are threatening. Further, I think we would have an influx of SK people to the US and other countries. It's a solution, but I don't think it solves the problem.
They hate us because we are meddling in their affairs. If the choice is between letting S. Korea defend themselves or killing 20 million Americans and launching a nuclear war that would also kill people elsewhere and possible draw China and/or Russia into this I think the choice is pretty obvious. Why are we in S. Korea anyway?

Apparently Vietnam taught us nothing.

Rohirrim
09-20-2017, 06:21 PM
They hate us because we are meddling in their affairs. If the choice is between letting S. Korea defend themselves or killing 20 million Americans and launching a nuclear war that would also kill people elsewhere and possible draw China and/or Russia into this I think the choice is pretty obvious. Why are we in S. Korea anyway?

Apparently Vietnam taught us nothing.

The big question no one wants to ask.

I watched the first episode of Ken Burn's Vietnam the other night. Absolutely infuriating. Just lie, built upon lie, built upon lie.

Garcia Bronco
09-20-2017, 06:36 PM
They hate us because we are meddling in their affairs. If the choice is between letting S. Korea defend themselves or killing 20 million Americans and launching a nuclear war that would also kill people elsewhere and possible draw China and/or Russia into this I think the choice is pretty obvious. Why are we in S. Korea anyway?

Apparently Vietnam taught us nothing.

I feel confident if South Koreans didn't want us to be there then we wouldn't. the South Koreans are people that didn't want to live under communist totalitarian rule. But maybe I need to revisit the subject.

I still say that pulling out of South Korea doesn't solve the problem of an unhinged Communist dictatorship with nuclear missiles that makes constant threats against the world. if war is inevitable then pulling away from South Korea might be strategically wrong despite what you hear from a numbers perspective and so forth.

footstepsfrom#27
09-20-2017, 08:02 PM
I feel confident if South Koreans didn't want us to be there then we wouldn't. the South Koreans are people that didn't want to live under communist totalitarian rule. But maybe I need to revisit the subject.

I still say that pulling out of South Korea doesn't solve the problem of an unhinged Communist dictatorship with nuclear missiles that makes constant threats against the world. if war is inevitable then pulling away from South Korea might be strategically wrong despite what you hear from a numbers perspective and so forth.
Of course they like us being there. Why wouldn't they? Our military presence is both a deterrent and a source of economic gain for them. However, S. Korea is fully capable of defending themselves against the commies in the north without our help. If the US wasn't there this crazy would have little reason to care about threatening us. In any case they've been making threats for years. What they are really after is release from sanctions. Give it to them. I frankly don't give a damn whether we sanction them or not. We've been there now for going on 70 years...why? For what purpose? This isn't 1964 and the N.Koreans are not going to try to expand communism off the Korean pennensula even if they had the capability of doing so, which they don't. The only reason we have to be there is to prop up a corporate trade partner and to enrich defense contractors. We have more than enough problems right here to worry about without continuing this insanity of being the global police force everywhere on the planet.