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frerottenextelway
08-19-2016, 11:25 PM
Easy answer is the decathlon, but limited to a single sport.

Quoydogs
08-20-2016, 12:34 AM
What about Ninja warriors ? That gets my vote.

loborugger
08-20-2016, 12:37 AM
For a combination of mental toughness, stamina, agility, flexibility, strength, and just all out physical fitness, gotta go with the combat sports - boxing, MMA, Tae Kwan Do, etc.

Other nominees are water polo, gymnastics and rugby.

broncocalijohn
08-20-2016, 12:40 AM
Hot dog eating. I went other.

ZONA
08-20-2016, 12:49 AM
Overall I would give my vote to gymnastics. Just think of all the different events they have to do (floor exercise, parallel bars, rings, vault, uneven bars). Think about trying to do a backflip and land on a 6" wide piece of wood.

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ZONA
08-20-2016, 12:53 AM
For a combination of mental toughness, stamina, agility, flexibility, strength, and just all out physical fitness, gotta go with the combat sports - boxing, MMA, Tae Kwan Do, etc.

Other nominees are water polo, gymnastics and rugby.

Water Polo? Unless there's underwater indian leg wrestling going on at the same time, that sport would never strike me as having the best atheletes. LMAO

SonOfLe-loLang
08-20-2016, 02:11 AM
If the question is which sport has the best athletes it probably has to be basketball. Those dudes are huge and are agile like guys a foot shorter than them

FireFly
08-20-2016, 02:43 AM
If the question is which sport has the best athletes it probably has to be basketball. Those dudes are huge and are agile like guys a foot shorter than them

I just couldn't disagree more. For me basketball is barely top 10. Gymnastics by a large degree for me. Both genders.

Action
08-20-2016, 03:29 AM
Not sure what you mean by athletic but as far as being in shape and endurance - boxing is no joke.

elsid13
08-20-2016, 03:48 AM
Water Polo? Unless there's underwater indian leg wrestling going on at the same time, that sport would never strike me as having the best atheletes. LMAO

It's the only sport that you are activity being drowned by your opponent. The level of stamina and strength required is unbelievable

Rohirrim
08-20-2016, 03:56 AM
We know which sport does the most damage to the body the quickest: Motocross.

GoneFishin'
08-20-2016, 05:12 AM
If the question is which sport has the best athletes it probably has to be basketball. Those dudes are huge and are agile like guys a foot shorter than them

I think I agree. Blend of physical and finesse. Running and jumping. Power and touch. Sometimes a play will have both power and touch at the same exact moment. There's a ball involved and the dribbling, passing, and shooting that comes with it. If you're weak in any athletic aspect it will show.

ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 05:43 AM
Overall I would give my vote to gymnastics. Just think of all the different events they have to do (floor exercise, parallel bars, rings, vault, uneven bars). Think about trying to do a backflip and land on a 6" wide piece of wood.

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Beam is only 4 inches wide, not 6. I don't know how they do it.

ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 05:44 AM
Never seen a basketball player do this:

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ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 05:46 AM
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69bronco
08-20-2016, 05:55 AM
NASCAR

Bronx33
08-20-2016, 05:56 AM
speed humping on coke..

ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 06:01 AM
I've seen fat basketball players, fat baseball players (Hello John Kruk!), fat football players, never seen a fat gymnast. Soccer everyone has to run, a LOT. Hockey you have to do all of it, backwards, on ice skates, don't know about the athletic part being above everyone else, but definitely has it on the hand/foot/eye coordination. Track and swimming are less 'complicated' in that they are races, not games. Sprinters are jacked more so than distance runners, those guys just look emaciated.


We watched a little bit of the mens diving last night after we got back from dinner, and I was surprised at how ripped those guys were.

Garcia Bronco
08-20-2016, 06:04 AM
Ice Hockey by a mile.

Bronx33
08-20-2016, 06:16 AM
Ice Hockey by a mile.

this

Bronx33
08-20-2016, 06:17 AM
baseball shouldn't be anywhere near this poll

Pony Boy
08-20-2016, 06:18 AM
I agree with gymnastics as most athletic sport.

But for the record all of those other sports only exist for those who couldn't make the football team

DENVERDUI55
08-20-2016, 06:40 AM
baseball shouldn't be anywhere near this poll

John Kruk and Cecil Fielder disagree!

maven
08-20-2016, 09:20 AM
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How the **** is this even possible? It's video game ****. ****ing amazing!

Punisher
08-20-2016, 09:25 AM
Water polo hands down

Dedhed
08-20-2016, 10:42 AM
I think gymnastics is the obvious answer. As far as team sports go though, it's soccer. Having to control the object (ball/puck etc) with the same body part you use to move yourself around simply takes more body control.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-20-2016, 10:49 AM
Sport that requires strength speed agility hand eye and endurance...to keep you from getting your ass kicked. MMA. It's combining 2 athletic sports into one(boxing and wrestling).

OABB
08-20-2016, 10:50 AM
Ice Hockey by a mile.

By two

boppool
08-20-2016, 11:02 AM
It really depends on how you define the term.
I agree that baseball will require the least amount of athleticism, but it does require different set of skills. Michael Jordan, regarded as one of the most athletic person ever lived, struggled. Golf is same way.

go_broncos
08-20-2016, 11:30 AM
Cricket

BABronco
08-20-2016, 11:36 AM
Individual sports I'd say MMA and gymnastics. Team sport I'd say rugby and hockey.

ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 11:40 AM
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How the **** is this even possible? It's video game ****. ****ing amazing!

That move is "The Biles" because she's the first one to land it in either the Olympics or World Championship.

mwill07
08-20-2016, 11:45 AM
Sport that requires strength speed agility hand eye and endurance...to keep you from getting your ass kicked. MMA. It's combining 2 athletic sports into one(boxing and wrestling).

it's a lot more sports than that - jiu jitsu is a legit sport in its own right that takes years to really learn. Same for Muai Thai.

Here's what makes MMA so hard - it requires endurance, speed, and strength. I don't think there is another sport that requires all of this athletically, on top of training.

Every single muscle group is used as well, it's not purely a lower body or upper body thing.

and - if you take a second to compose yourself and gather your wits, you get punched in the nose and that sucks.

SonOfLe-loLang
08-20-2016, 11:49 AM
You guys have clearly never seen NBA athletes up close. Gymnasts are obviously incredibly athletic but it's, again, an apples to oranges conversation and probably says more about what you value in an athlete

SonOfLe-loLang
08-20-2016, 11:50 AM
And for whoever said gymnasts can't be fat, watch a college meet. They ain't all Simone Biles. Some are kinda hefty. What you're watching is the cream of the crop

ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 11:59 AM
And for whoever said gymnasts can't be fat, watch a college meet. They ain't all Simone Biles. Some are kinda hefty. What you're watching is the cream of the crop

Oliver Miller went to the NBA Championship series with the Suns in 93 and John Kruk played for Philly in 1993 when the lost to the Blue Jays in the WS - (apparently 1993 was a good year for fat guys).The heftier gals are mostly limited to the "power" apparatuses of floor and vault, and mostly for lesser teams. Which makes the all arounders tougher because you have to be powerful and graceful at the same time.

SonOfLe-loLang
08-20-2016, 12:02 PM
Oliver Miller went to the NBA Championship series with the Suns in 93 and John Kruk played for Philly in 1993 when the lost to the Blue Jays in the WS - (apparently 1993 was a good year for fat guys).The heftier gals are mostly limited to the "power" apparatuses of floor and vault, and mostly for lesser teams. Which makes the all arounders tougher because you have to be powerful and graceful at the same time.

I don't understand your point. I'm not saying every NBA player is the most athletic person in the world. But I think in general dudes that big that can move as gracefully and are that agile are probably the best. It's just an opinion, there's no real right or wrong here.

AlaskaMagnum
08-20-2016, 12:03 PM
Bowling. Period. Must perform at high level while drunk and eating greasy pizza.

hades
08-20-2016, 12:04 PM
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ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 12:10 PM
I don't understand your point. I'm not saying every NBA player is the most athletic person in the world. But I think in general dudes that big that can move as gracefully and are that agile are probably the best. It's just an opinion, there's no real right or wrong here.

Miller and Kruk played and started for Championship caliber teams (even if both lost their respective finals that year). The bigger gymnasts aren't on the top college teams (UGA, UF, Utah, UCLA, Alabama), they're typically on the non top-25 teams, even then they are mostly limited to specialists.

ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 12:11 PM
I don't understand your point. I'm not saying every NBA player is the most athletic person in the world. But I think in general dudes that big that can move as gracefully and are that agile are probably the best. It's just an opinion, there's no real right or wrong here.

But in that same vein, you'd have to include volleyball players. They all looked 6'6 and above and moved athletically.

mwill07
08-20-2016, 12:14 PM
I don't think of being tall is an athletic trait.

Paladin
08-20-2016, 12:19 PM
Decathalon

DHallblows
08-20-2016, 12:25 PM
Individual sports I'd say MMA and gymnastics. Team sport I'd say rugby and hockey.

I'm say you pretty much nailed it...

BleedinBlue
08-20-2016, 12:27 PM
Agree with Son on this one, for me it is easily basketball. You could make a case for gymnastics based on body type and everyone having low body fat percentages. Personally when I think of a pure athlete, I think of size, speed, strength combination and ratio. So for me the NBA is the clear winner. The smallest guys on the court are usually around 6'2" which is much taller than the average male. Guys like Westbrook who are dwarfs out there and still have 40+ in verticals and could probably run a 4.4 40. The NBA is filled with 6'4" - 7' guys that move like they are 5'10" and 150 pounds.

I also believe that a ton of guys in the NBA could play pro football and very few NFL players would transition to other sports. DT looks huge on a football field, he is also best friends with Jimmy Butler and Butler is a much larger version of DT that moves just as well. Gymnasts are great athletes but they don't have the pure size/speed ratio that an NBA player does. I look at athleticism as how many other sports could the average player translate into, and imo NBA players take the cake.

BleedinBlue
08-20-2016, 12:33 PM
I don't think of being tall is an athletic trait.

No, but when you see how insanely graceful a guy 6'6" - 7'2" is in person it is mind blowing. I don't consider being able to take or throw a punch a major feat of athleticism. Unless it is Ali or a generational fighter, I would consider most of those guys solid athletes but not spectacular. I love MMA and the NHL but I don't see those guys translating to any other sports. Hand - eye coordination is off the charts for sure, but as a pure athlete I don't see it.

Go watch Aaron Gordon vs Zach Levine in the dunk contest and think about how insane it is that two men that large move that explosively and gracefully. The full body control for someone that size is crazy.

orinjkrush
08-20-2016, 12:40 PM
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Archer81
08-20-2016, 12:41 PM
Hockey and Football


:Broncos:

Rohirrim
08-20-2016, 12:43 PM
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GoneFishin'
08-20-2016, 12:44 PM
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BOOM!

mwill07
08-20-2016, 01:18 PM
No, but when you see how insanely graceful a guy 6'6" - 7'2" is in person it is mind blowing. I don't consider being able to take or throw a punch a major feat of athleticism. Unless it is Ali or a generational fighter, I would consider most of those guys solid athletes but not spectacular. I love MMA and the NHL but I don't see those guys translating to any other sports. Hand - eye coordination is off the charts for sure, but as a pure athlete I don't see it.

Go watch Aaron Gordon vs Zach Levine in the dunk contest and think about how insane it is that two men that large move that explosively and gracefully. The full body control for someone that size is crazy.

that's the thing - I don't think you should rate grace and explosion on a scale, and give bonus points for being tall. If those guys were 5'8" and moved with the same grace, no one would bat an eye.

Broncoandrew
08-20-2016, 01:21 PM
Soccer is no more athletic than basketball, and probably less, since the pitch is so much larger. You aren't running constantly for 90 minutes, only when the ball is in your area.

ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 01:32 PM
Soccer is no more athletic than basketball, and probably less, since the pitch is so much larger. You aren't running constantly for 90 minutes, only when the ball is in your area.

Basketball players average around 2.5 miles per game, soccer players average 7-10 miles.

Arkie
08-20-2016, 01:34 PM
Definitely basketball

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BleedinBlue
08-20-2016, 01:46 PM
that's the thing - I don't think you should rate grace and explosion on a scale, and give bonus points for being tall. If those guys were 5'8" and moved with the same grace, no one would bat an eye.

In general though, unless you are a freak athlete, height is generally not beneficial and most likely a hindrance on athleticism. I think that is a big reason why NBA players are the best athletes because of size/speed/movement. Fair enough though, just an agree to disagree type outlook. I just feel that NBA players could translate to more sports than any other athlete, hands down.

CHEF LUIGI
08-20-2016, 02:14 PM
Beam is only 4 inches wide, not 6. I don't know how they do it.

Try gowing 60 mph on 2 tires each less than a half inch wide !

SPEED, STRENGTH, STAMINA, SKILL, STRATEGY AND SPIRIT,
Cyclists compete over 100 miles in a single day.

cyclist are the best conditioned athletes on earth.

SonOfLe-loLang
08-20-2016, 02:15 PM
Miller and Kruk played and started for Championship caliber teams (even if both lost their respective finals that year). The bigger gymnasts aren't on the top college teams (UGA, UF, Utah, UCLA, Alabama), they're typically on the non top-25 teams, even then they are mostly limited to specialists.

They write good enough to be on ESPN. I still don't get your point. it's not like Oliver Miller or Stanley Roberts were stars

SonOfLe-loLang
08-20-2016, 02:17 PM
Basketball players average around 2.5 miles per game, soccer players average 7-10 miles.

So they have more endurance therefore more athletic ability? That doesn't make sense. Also basketball players might be able to run that much too

maggnus
08-20-2016, 02:22 PM
football

Requiem
08-20-2016, 02:23 PM
Did someone say soccer isn't athletic? Wtf.

elsid13
08-20-2016, 02:35 PM
Triathlon in particular ironman winners

hipster.doofus
08-20-2016, 02:47 PM
Cornerbacks are the best athletes of any position of any team sport. When it comes to overall athleticism, the best basketball players have nothing on cornerbacks.

There's a reason why basketball players are mostly pegged as only tightends in football. They don't have the quickness, speed, or agility to compete with WRs or CBs.

rmsanger
08-20-2016, 03:19 PM
Gladiator fights to the death is the only correct answer. Too bad Marcus put an end to them.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Are-You-Not-Entertained-Gladiator.gif

Archer81
08-20-2016, 03:30 PM
Takes a lot of coordination and athletic skill to stay on skates, handle a stick and then manage to work a puck down a rink, while avoiding large human beings on skates themselves.

:Broncos:

Bronx33
08-20-2016, 03:33 PM
Takes a lot of coordination and athletic skill to stay on skates, handle a stick and then manage to work a puck down a rink, while avoiding large human beings on skates themselves.

:Broncos:

Not to mention 2-3 min balls to the wall shifts.

BroncosfanGuy
08-20-2016, 03:38 PM
You guys have clearly never seen NBA athletes up close. Gymnasts are obviously incredibly athletic but it's, again, an apples to oranges conversation and probably says more about what you value in an athlete

it's an apples to oranges argument because even elite basketball players cannot dream or possessing the athleticism of elite gymnasts.

and I've seen nba players up close. I just vehemently disagree with the notion that their craft requires more athleticism than gymnastics

qbronco
08-20-2016, 03:49 PM
Rock Climbers are the most athletic individuals I have been around.

ShiftyEyedWaterboy
08-20-2016, 04:00 PM
I seem to recall some study done recently that had boxing and hockey at 1 and 2, respectively. Not sure how they came to that conclusion but it sounds about right to me.

ShiftyEyedWaterboy
08-20-2016, 04:04 PM
Also, basketball might have the most "freakish" athletes but I don't see how its the most athletic sport. I think you could put a number of sports ahead of it.

DENVERDUI55
08-20-2016, 04:12 PM
Golf!

socalorado
08-20-2016, 04:43 PM
Did someone say soccer isn't athletic? Wtf.

Hilarious! Exactly. Run. Walk. Run. Get hit by sniper fire. Miraculously recover from gunshot and run again. Walk. Complain like a biotch to some Latin guy with a whistle. Run. Walk. Cry. Walk. Run. Walk. Lose on penalties. Go home.

ShiftyEyedWaterboy
08-20-2016, 04:46 PM
Hilarious! Exactly. Run. Walk. Run. Get hit by sniper fire. Miraculously recover from gunshot and run again. Walk. Complain like a biotch to some Latin guy with a whistle. Run. Walk. Cry. Walk. Run. Walk. Lose on penalties. Go home.

Sounds like an England match.

socalorado
08-20-2016, 04:48 PM
Gymnastics. Insane athletic ability and mental toughness. Everything is on you, the athlete.
Boxing. Insane endurance. Go box at a boxing gym for 5 minutes in the ring with a sparring partner. You'll be dead out of breathe and wheezing in 2 minutes and your shoulders will feel like they are on fire from keeping them up, defending your head.
Again, it's all on you. You take all the chances. You take all the risk.
There's no one to blame in these sports. The spotlight is all on you.

ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 04:51 PM
They write good enough to be on ESPN. I still don't get your point. it's not like Oliver Miller or Stanley Roberts were stars


Fat guys can start for championship teams in basketball and baseball.

Fat girls can NOT start for NCAA championship gymnastic teams.

socalorado
08-20-2016, 04:52 PM
Sounds like an England match.

Hockey is an insanely athletic sport as well. It's sort of a cold nation sport, and the guys who are the best come out of the womb on skates. You either have it, or you don't.
Another sport that I encourage folks to go try. Unbelievably tough, focused and hand eye coordination is the best of any sport. Plus you have to be prepared to be literally knocked on your ass all the while skating on a thin piece of metal that's on the bottom of your feet. On concrete that's called ice.
I encourage any of you to go try. I played for 10 years on ice. And I picked it up at 21 years old. It's incredibly hard.

Requiem
08-20-2016, 04:55 PM
Yeah, hockey isn't easy. Takes a different breed of human to be a hockey player.

BroncosfanGuy
08-20-2016, 04:57 PM
Yeah, hockey isn't easy. Takes a different breed of human to be a hockey player.

not the same 'different kind of breed' it take to be a kc fan, though

ShiftyEyedWaterboy
08-20-2016, 04:58 PM
Hockey is an insanely athletic sport as well. It's sort of a cold nation sport, and the guys who are the best come out of the womb on skates. You either have it, or you don't.
Another sport that I encourage folks to go try. Unbelievably tough, focused and hand eye coordination is the best of any sport. Plus you have to be prepared to be literally knocked on your ass all the while skating on a thin piece of metal that's on the bottom of your feet. On concrete that's called ice.
I encourage any of you to go try. I played for 10 years on ice. And I picked it up at 21 years old. It's incredibly hard.

I never played competitively but started playing with buddies on ponds in MI in my late teens. Stupid hard. Gave me a new found appreciation for what the pro's do. The sheer athleticism, hand-eye coordination, and mental faculties required for the game are incredible.

Bronx33
08-20-2016, 05:00 PM
How come coke fueled speed ****ing never gets any mention?

ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 05:03 PM
So they have more endurance therefore more athletic ability? That doesn't make sense. Also basketball players might be able to run that much too

They might be able to, but they don't have to, since we're talking about what they do in their respective sport. Basketball players can be subbed out as well. Most soccer players have to play the entire game, having to sprint 30-50 yards at a moment, jump, kick, head, etc.

I'm not trying to say basketball player are unathletic, because they obviously are. They run, jump and change directions quickly. I don't see it as that complicated, but maybe I'm missing something. Hockey and gymnastics require a higher athletic performance, soccer a bit more and football about the same (depending on position of course). Baseball less so, even though hitting a baseball is one of the hardest things to do (golf ball too, but no one is arguing for that).

socalorado
08-20-2016, 05:08 PM
They might be able to, but they don't have to, since we're talking about what they do in their respective sport. Basketball players can be subbed out as well. Most soccer players have to play the entire game, having to sprint 30-50 yards at a moment, jump, kick, head, etc.

I'm not trying to say basketball player are unathletic, because they obviously are. They run, jump and change directions quickly. I don't see it as that complicated, but maybe I'm missing something. Hockey and gymnastics require a higher athletic performance, soccer a bit more and football about the same (depending on position of course). Baseball less so, even though hitting a baseball is one of the hardest things to do (golf ball too, but no one is arguing for that).

Soccer is ghey dude. I can just stop the game and take a break any time I want. I just fall down. It happens every game in every league. And they sub in and out players all the time. WTF, man.
Oh and it's boring. And ghey. And no one ever actually fights.
Cause they are all ghey.

ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 05:14 PM
Soccer is ghey dude. I can just stop the game and take a break any time I want. I just fall down. It happens every game in every league. And they sub in and out players all the time. WTF, man.
Oh and it's boring. And ghey. And no one ever actually fights.
Cause they are all ghey.

You only get 3 subs total for each game. Meaning most of the players don't get subbed.

Also, have you ever stubbed your toe? You grab it, roll around on the ground and cuss. Then it gets better and a few minutes later you're up and going again. Now, instead of stubbing your toe - someone kicks your foot.

socalorado
08-20-2016, 05:19 PM
You only get 3 subs total for each game. Meaning most of the players don't get subbed.

Also, have you ever stubbed your toe? You grab it, roll around on the ground and cuss. Then it gets better and a few minutes later you're up and going again. Now, instead of stubbing your toe - someone kicks your foot.

Hilarious! Stubbed your toe?!!?? Hilarious!
Darin, go to your safe space and cry into your dress.
Then tell your mom to set up the appointment to meet with your millennial, motivational Dr.

mwill07
08-20-2016, 05:24 PM
it's not like players never go down playing other sports, take a few plays off, and come back onto the field. I mean, damn. Soccer is a full contact sport with minimal padding.

Arkie
08-20-2016, 05:29 PM
it's an apples to oranges argument because even elite basketball players cannot dream or possessing the athleticism of elite gymnasts.

and I've seen nba players up close. I just vehemently disagree with the notion that their craft requires more athleticism than gymnastics

Basketball>gymnastics in speed, agility, endurance, and hand/eye coordination

Gymnastics>basketball in strength pound for pound

It's apples to oranges because basketball players can't turn flips on a balancing beam, but gymnasts can't take the court with elite NBA players either.

ColoradoDarin
08-20-2016, 05:30 PM
Hilarious! Stubbed your toe?!!?? Hilarious!
Darin, go to your safe space and cry into your dress.
Then tell your mom to set up the appointment to meet with your millennial, motivational Dr.

You've never stubbed your toe? Padded room your whole life?

mwill07
08-20-2016, 05:44 PM
Basketball>gymnastics in speed, agility, endurance, and hand/eye coordination

Gymnastics>basketball in strength pound for pound

It's apples to oranges because basketball players can't turn flips on a balancing beam, but gymnasts can't take the court with elite NBA players either.

??

Garcia Bronco
08-20-2016, 06:55 PM
Hockey also involves taking a beating and doesnt stop every ten seconds. Gymnastics takes great strength and agility, but boxing takes more so. Football is up there. I would say basketball is maybe 5th.

Pony Boy
08-20-2016, 07:11 PM
Cornerbacks are the best athletes of any position of any team sport. When it comes to overall athleticism, the best basketball players have nothing on cornerbacks.

That's racist

Jason in LA
08-20-2016, 07:16 PM
There is really no correct answer.

ZONA
08-20-2016, 07:19 PM
it's a lot more sports than that - jiu jitsu is a legit sport in its own right that takes years to really learn. Same for Muai Thai.

Here's what makes MMA so hard - it requires endurance, speed, and strength. I don't think there is another sport that requires all of this athletically, on top of training.

Every single muscle group is used as well, it's not purely a lower body or upper body thing.

and - if you take a second to compose yourself and gather your wits, you get punched in the nose and that sucks.

Not really. MMA doesn't REQUIRE you to be great at many things. You don't even have to be in that great of shape. You don't necessarily have to be strong. There are all sorts of different types of fighters who have held belts that many people would not consider a great 'athlete'.


Some of these suggestions are cracking me up. I mean, cmon, water polo? You have a few in here saying how somebody's trying to drown you, OMG, that's too funny. I can watch a water polo match, or a soccer match and I can see alot of times where players are just merely standing there or walking around or jogging. And Ice Hockey? Really? This is just a case where people just really enjoy those sports but aren't truly thinking things through. Hands down gymnasts are the most overall athletic of any sport. The power and agility they have to have is the insane.

I would vote High Jumper, Long Jumper or 100M High Hurdles before I voted for Water Polo or Ice Hockey. I would even say Figure Skating takes more athleticism then Ice Hockey. LMAO

ZONA
08-20-2016, 07:23 PM
Hockey also involves taking a beating and doesnt stop every ten seconds. Gymnastics takes great strength and agility, but boxing takes more so. Football is up there. I would say basketball is maybe 5th.

You're smoking weed. Boxing takes endurance and skill, you don't need to be a great athlete to be a boxer. Same reason I gave for MMA. Mike Tyson was a very very strong man. Doesn't mean he could jump high, or do a triple back flip, or do half the things a gymnast could do. But you could put two gymnasts together and make the fight and 1 could easily knock out the other.

ZONA
08-20-2016, 07:29 PM
Don't know if it's an official sport yet but some of these Parkour elites would have to be in the conversation.

And to think they're doing this without the safety of pads or helmets, or nets and many of these moves if they got wrong could end in utter disaster.

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broncosjf
08-20-2016, 08:48 PM
Some of these suggestions are cracking me up. I mean, cmon, water polo? You have a few in here saying how somebody's trying to drown you, OMG, that's too funny. I can watch a water polo match, or a soccer match and I can see alot of times where players are just merely standing there
I'm not weighing in with any suggestions because I think different sports all require different skills and the comparisons just don't hold up.

I wanted to clarify you've never seen anyone "standing there" in water polo because there is nothing to stand on without being under water. They are swimming/treading water the whole time.

gunns
08-20-2016, 08:57 PM
http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/sportSkills

This has boxing first, hockey second, football third. Has tennis just above gymnastics. I don't know that's I'd agree with that considering the different competitions they have to know, but tennis is definitely an endurance sport.

Here's from another site but almost identical results. Maybe ESPN got theirs from this site.

http://examinedexistence.com/which-sport-requires-the-most-athleticism/

balero
08-20-2016, 09:25 PM
I voted baseball.

BroncosfanGuy
08-20-2016, 09:27 PM
I voted baseball.

the poll isn't "what is you're favorite sport"

Cito Pelon
08-20-2016, 09:48 PM
Basketball #1 because not only do you need athleticism, but you need touch. You can run up and down the floor all you want, but you have to score also and that's difficult.

Football #2 because it's so physical. You can be a great athlete, but you get injured a lot.

Hockey probably #3. Could be #1 but they aren't required to leap.

Baseball #4. Absolutely the best sport to play IMO. If you can hit, you can play, simple as that. If you can field the ball as well as hit a ton, damn you're close to the HOF. That was always my favorite sport to play because you didn't get too sweaty and didn't get injured.

RonMexico
08-20-2016, 09:55 PM
Soccer requires so much of every player in terms of the academically defined athletic traits: speed, balance, power, explosiveness, etc. and also requires incredible vision, technical skill, creativity, and brute strength.

It's kind of a smorgasbord of athleticism.

If you're talking team sports it's tough to beat soccer. Volleyball and basketball are right there too.

American football is just too compartmentalized to compete with those.

RonMexico
08-20-2016, 10:03 PM
You only get 3 subs total for each game. Meaning most of the players don't get subbed.

Also, have you ever stubbed your toe? You grab it, roll around on the ground and cuss. Then it gets better and a few minutes later you're up and going again. Now, instead of stubbing your toe - someone kicks your foot.

Soccer is incredibly athletic. Anyone who claims otherwise is just trying to be cool to the generation of 40-somethings and older who had to act like they were tough by dogging the sport.

Their generation failed though, and now soccer has pushed them to the fringes.

BroncoBuff
08-20-2016, 10:28 PM
Frisbee football, hands down.

BroncoBuff
08-20-2016, 10:32 PM
(not kidding)

ILuvBroncos
08-20-2016, 10:33 PM
I just couldn't disagree more. For me basketball is barely top 10. Gymnastics by a large degree for me. Both genders.


Lebron James is the best athlete in the world.

socalorado
08-20-2016, 11:12 PM
Soccer is incredibly athletic. Anyone who claims otherwise is just trying to be cool to the generation of 40-somethings and older who had to act like they were tough by dogging the sport.

Their generation failed though, and now soccer has pushed them to the fringes.

No. It isn't. And it's ghey. Your just one of those clowns who wants it to be relevant. And your ghey.

ZONA
08-21-2016, 12:53 AM
This kind of thread only proves just how different people see things. Quick, how many people think the square below is red and how many think it's blue, LMAO.

















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Willynowei
08-21-2016, 01:17 AM
Of all the professional athletes I've seen up close, NBA players freaked me out the most. Watching giants move around like Cats is just crazy. If you're talking most impressive athletes, I'm thinking Football and Basketball.

Soccer has the best lower body athletes in the world by far, but do you care about what a person does with their hands?

Does size vs. athleticism matter? If not, I can see gymnasts being up there. But if so, I don't see how gymnasts can compete with 7 footers that move like cats or a 260lb 6'8 monster like LeBron.

Baseball is so un-athletic that sometimes I wonder if Chess is more of a sport. It really doesn't belong on this thread.

How much does stamina matter vs. explosiveness? Team sports with timeouts give players plenty of time to rest etc... Decathlon participants don't get such luxuries, and neither to cyclists etc.

ILuvBroncos
08-21-2016, 03:18 AM
No. It isn't. And it's ghey. Your just one of those clowns who wants it to be relevant. And your ghey.


Hilarious!

BroncoBuff
08-21-2016, 06:08 AM
Frisbee football might not be eligible in here, but ........

It has all the running and more than soccer. Stopping, twisting, turning .... catching and throwing - a disk which requires angular throws, lofts, bullet throws, etc .... and you gotta catch the thing or turnover possession - unlike te ghey no hands of soccer.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
08-21-2016, 06:11 AM
It's gymnastics, hands down.

RonMexico
08-21-2016, 07:22 AM
Of all the professional athletes I've seen up close, NBA players freaked me out the most. Watching giants move around like Cats is just crazy. If you're talking most impressive athletes, I'm thinking Football and Basketball.

Soccer has the best lower body athletes in the world by far, but do you care about what a person does with their hands?

Does size vs. athleticism matter? If not, I can see gymnasts being up there. But if so, I don't see how gymnasts can compete with 7 footers that move like cats or a 260lb 6'8 monster like LeBron.

Baseball is so un-athletic that sometimes I wonder if Chess is more of a sport. It really doesn't belong on this thread.

How much does stamina matter vs. explosiveness? Team sports with timeouts give players plenty of time to rest etc... Decathlon participants don't get such luxuries, and neither to cyclists etc.

Soccer players do as much with their hands as basketball players do with their feet. There is constant grabbing, pushing, and pulling when a player moves forward with the ball.

Also, every soccer player is a point guard. Every one is a quarterback while also being a running back, defensive back, and wide receiver.

gunns
08-21-2016, 07:55 AM
Soccer is incredibly athletic. Anyone who claims otherwise is just trying to be cool to the generation of 40-somethings and older who had to act like they were tough by dogging the sport.

Their generation failed though, and now soccer has pushed them to the fringes.

???

40+ somethings and older who had to act like they were tough by dogging the sport? This statement sounds like it comes from someone who is below 40 and just wants to be right. In fact soccer didn't have the popularity or participation here in the US because it wasn't put in front of people till later. Popularity has nothing to do with the topic of this thread or "40+ somethings". Or you.

Willynowei
08-21-2016, 08:10 AM
Soccer players do as much with their hands as basketball players do with their feet. There is constant grabbing, pushing, and pulling when a player moves forward with the ball.

Also, every soccer player is a point guard. Every one is a quarterback while also being a running back, defensive back, and wide receiver.

No.

I would consider being able to jump 3+ feet into the air and running/cutting off screens as the pinnacle of pure lower body athleticism. Some players, like Kobe Bryant are dominant due to pristine footwork.

You're comparing that kind of lower body athleticism to soccer players pushing with their hands?

Hilarious!

Are you out of your mind?

Kaylore
08-21-2016, 08:16 AM
It's a difficult question. I would premium on how much all parts of the body are challenged to be good. Running and jumping aren't enough of a challenge, so sports like basketball and football don't cut it. Soccer doesn't really utilize the upper body. It's hard to argue with gymnastics. Though I like that combat sports require you to fight directly against another opponent. Water Polo has the team element too. Very tough question.

muninoel
08-21-2016, 08:37 AM
To me, rugby is quite difficult, and of course, I agree with gymnasts being up there, as well as any of the fighting sports, including WWE. Yes, WWE, because even though it's scripted, look at how those big dudes jump off the corner, fly up in the air, and crash into their opponent or mat. Incredible versatility for big men. I would have said curling for a laugh...

RonMexico
08-21-2016, 10:04 AM
No.

I would consider being able to jump 3+ feet into the air and running/cutting off screens as the pinnacle of pure lower body athleticism. Some players, like Kobe Bryant are dominant due to pristine footwork.

You're comparing that kind of lower body athleticism to soccer players pushing with their hands?

Hilarious!

Are you out of your mind?

Sounds like you may have too much invested.

Arkie
08-21-2016, 07:19 PM
Soccer is ghey dude. I can just stop the game and take a break any time I want. I just fall down. It happens every game in every league. And they sub in and out players all the time. WTF, man.
Oh and it's boring. And ghey. And no one ever actually fights.
Cause they are all ghey.

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socalorado
08-21-2016, 07:32 PM
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Hilarious!
"Running around not touching a polka dotted ball with their hands".
Ghey.

Breaker
08-22-2016, 08:13 AM
I can skate, dunk, run, swim, throw very well, and was a college soccer player/basketball player (d2). I can't do a single thing a gymnast can do, easy answer

Kaylore
08-22-2016, 08:16 AM
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Hilarious!

Irish Stout
08-22-2016, 08:25 AM
Triatheletes. Hockey Players. Professional fighters. Gymnists.

jmz313
08-22-2016, 08:40 AM
Swimming maybe? i would rather line up against any rugby squad in the world than swim 800 meters.

The most "athletically demanding sport" I've participated in is BMX racing. Wrestling and hockey have their merits too.

mwill07
08-22-2016, 08:49 AM
it's an interesting question in that "athlete" isn't really defined. Different sports have different athletic requirements, and athletes may not excel outside their specialized sport.

What defines an "athlete"?

underrated29
08-22-2016, 09:02 AM
Any non contact sport - cannot be above contact sports...IE- basketball cannot be above football, etc.

And the espn thing has it right.

Boxing is #1.
Hockey is #2 (id argue 1, but I do both and can see how boxing gets the upper hand)
football is #3


Lol- at whoever said basketball over hockey because of jumping. Please, think of this for one moment:

A 6'2 220lb man with 40lbs of gear on (so 260lbs) coming at you between 20-30 Miles per hour (Double or Triple the speed of a NFL linebacker) and smashing you into the boards...Or open ice. Then you have the sticks that they chop you with over and over, on the wrists- hurts so much. Basketball players cant even get bumped without laying on the ground.

Hockey requires elite leg strength! You have to have speed, endurance and power in the legs. Skating is 90% of hockey. Then you have to have the upper body to move the puck fight off defenders (or attack forwards if you play D)...You have to have your core strong As F to shield the puck and take hits- all while moving between 20-30 mph...And dont forget the slapshots that register over 100mph. Being hit with a frozen, solid piece of rubber at that speed is far worse than anything you will ever encounter in basketball.

SonOfLe-loLang
08-22-2016, 09:04 AM
Any non contact sport - cannot be above contact sports...IE- basketball cannot be above football, etc.

And the espn thing has it right.

Boxing is #1.
Hockey is #2 (id argue 1, but I do both and can see how boxing gets the upper hand)
football is #3


Lol- at whoever said basketball over hockey because of jumping. Please, think of this for one moment:

A 6'2 220lb man with 40lbs of gear on (so 260lbs) coming at you between 20-30 Miles per hour (Double or Triple the speed of a NFL linebacker) and smashing you into the boards...Or open ice. Then you have the sticks that they chop you with over and over, on the wrists- hurts so much. Basketball players cant even get bumped without laying on the ground.

Hockey requires elite leg strength! You have to have speed, endurance and power in the legs. Skating is 90% of hockey. Then you have to have the upper body to move the puck fight off defenders (or attack forwards if you play D)...You have to have your core strong As F to shield the puck and take hits- all while moving between 20-30 mph...And dont forget the slapshots that register over 100mph. Being hit with a frozen, solid piece of rubber at that speed is far worse than anything you will ever encounter in basketball.

What does this perceived "toughness" have to be with being athletic?

underrated29
08-22-2016, 09:20 AM
What does this perceived "toughness" have to be with being athletic?



You have to be incredibly athletic to take a hit, deliver a hit, to shield the puck, to sprint all out for 45 seconds, rest for 1 minute, then go back out. That is not toughness, that is athletic.

6'2 220 (260lbs w gear) moving at 20-30mph, dodging people, while controlling a puck, is supreme athletic ability. Those are large people, with a lot of weight, moving extremely fast. Extremely agile. The toughness is just an added benefit

RonMexico
08-22-2016, 09:38 AM
it's an interesting question in that "athlete" isn't really defined. Different sports have different athletic requirements, and athletes may not excel outside their specialized sport.

What defines an "athlete"?

Fitness components define what an athlete is: http://www.sports-training-adviser.com/fitnesscomponents.html

RonMexico
08-22-2016, 09:41 AM
I can skate, dunk, run, swim, throw very well, and was a college soccer player/basketball player (d2). I can't do a single thing a gymnast can do, easy answer

A gymnast likely cannot compete with you in soccer or basketball.

SonOfLe-loLang
08-22-2016, 09:45 AM
it's an interesting question in that "athlete" isn't really defined. Different sports have different athletic requirements, and athletes may not excel outside their specialized sport.

What defines an "athlete"?

Apparently an acrobat if you poll the board.

SonOfLe-loLang
08-22-2016, 09:47 AM
It's a difficult question. I would premium on how much all parts of the body are challenged to be good. Running and jumping aren't enough of a challenge, so sports like basketball and football don't cut it. Soccer doesn't really utilize the upper body. It's hard to argue with gymnastics. Though I like that combat sports require you to fight directly against another opponent. Water Polo has the team element too. Very tough question.

it is a tough question, but i still think basketball players are the best. They are enormous humans with the agility and speed of people much smaller than them. Like if LeBron James was a wide receiver, he'd be the most devastating force in the history of the league. They are all complete freaks of nature.

Kaylore
08-22-2016, 10:28 AM
it is a tough question, but i still think basketball players are the best. They are enormous humans with the agility and speed of people much smaller than them. Like if LeBron James was a wide receiver, he'd be the most devastating force in the history of the league. They are all complete freaks of nature.

You have to keep a few things in mind:

A lot of sports are very physically demanding. Like any comparative argument, don't fall in the trap of assuming one ranked in front of another means disrespect for the lower one. Wanting Adriana Lima over Gisele Bundchen doesn't mean I think Gisele Bundchen would be a bad choice or is ugly.

Two, as you pointed out, the question isn't about who the greatest athlete is, it's about what sport is the most athletic, which I took to mean athletically demanding. You can't take the rankings as a diss on the greatest athletes of that sport.

Saying Lebron James is the greatest athlete, so Basketball wins is silly. Lebron would be great at many things. He just happens to play basketball. I believe Champ Bailey would have been great at just about any sport he played. He's one of the greatest athletes I've ever seen. All sports have their super athletes. I don't believe that necessarily indicates that sport is the most athletic. It just means that sport happens to have some super athletic players playing it.

I don't believe basketball requires enough force exertion to make my list. It's a lot of back and forth. There isn't enough explosive weight movement aside from their own bodyweight, and really all sports have that as a baseline - with maybe Golf and Bowling as possible exceptions because long term body movement isn't a major factor. This is an area I put defensive line ahead of basketball, because of the contact and high impact nature of it. That gives it points in front of Basketball IMO.

That's why I defer to things that require lots power as well as speed. It takes greater effort to vault into flips than to dunk a basketball. It takes greater effort to kick someone in the head than to hit a free throw or swing at a ball. I'm not saying basketball and baseball are easy. Just looking strictly at athletic demand, though I do think skill difficulty should be factored.

jmz313
08-22-2016, 10:38 AM
Bo Knows.

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RonMexico
08-22-2016, 10:57 AM
You have to keep a few things in mind:

A lot of sports are very physically demanding. Like any comparative argument, don't fall in the trap of assuming one ranked in front of another means disrespect for the lower one. Wanting Adriana Lima over Gisele Bundchen doesn't mean I think Gisele Bundchen would be a bad choice or is ugly.

Two, as you pointed out, the question isn't about who the greatest athlete is, it's about what sport is the most athletic, which I took to mean athletically demanding. You can't take the rankings as a diss on the greatest athletes of that sport.

Saying Lebron James is the greatest athlete, so Basketball wins is silly. Lebron would be great at many things. He just happens to play basketball. I believe Champ Bailey would have been great at just about any sport he played. He's one of the greatest athletes I've ever seen. All sports have their super athletes. I don't believe that necessarily indicates that sport is the most athletic. It just means that sport happens to have some super athletic players playing it.

I don't believe basketball requires enough force exertion to make my list. It's a lot of back and forth. There isn't enough explosive weight movement aside from their own bodyweight, and really all sports have that as a baseline - with maybe Golf and Bowling as possible exceptions because long term body movement isn't a major factor. This is an area I put defensive line ahead of basketball, because of the contact and high impact nature of it. That gives it points in front of Basketball IMO.

That's why I defer to things that require lots power as well as speed. It takes greater effort to vault into flips than to dunk a basketball. It takes greater effort to kick someone in the head than to hit a free throw or swing at a ball. I'm not saying basketball and baseball are easy. Just looking strictly at athletic demand, though I do think skill difficulty should be factored.

What you or I think should be considered a factor in determining what athleticism is unfortunately is irrelevant. Those things have already been decided through the academic process.

Skill and health related components are both considered. If you were to score the athletic component requirements of all of the sports and activities talked about in this thread, you'd get a lot of similar overall scores weighted heavily in different components. The sports that require the most complete set of athletic components with the most competitive environments would produce the top athletes, IMO.

That's why I chose soccer. Soccer requires all of the athletic components and has the most competitive environment on the planet. The top leagues have such a fine margin for error that the top athletes perform at a level like no other sport. If an athlete drops in performance, a contract does not entitle them to minutes. They will be dropped from the team. This level of performance has to be consistent in practice as well as in games.

SonOfLe-loLang
08-22-2016, 11:09 AM
You have to keep a few things in mind:

A lot of sports are very physically demanding. Like any comparative argument, don't fall in the trap of assuming one ranked in front of another means disrespect for the lower one. Wanting Adriana Lima over Gisele Bundchen doesn't mean I think Gisele Bundchen would be a bad choice or is ugly.

Two, as you pointed out, the question isn't about who the greatest athlete is, it's about what sport is the most athletic, which I took to mean athletically demanding. You can't take the rankings as a diss on the greatest athletes of that sport.

Saying Lebron James is the greatest athlete, so Basketball wins is silly. Lebron would be great at many things. He just happens to play basketball. I believe Champ Bailey would have been great at just about any sport he played. He's one of the greatest athletes I've ever seen. All sports have their super athletes. I don't believe that necessarily indicates that sport is the most athletic. It just means that sport happens to have some super athletic players playing it.

I don't believe basketball requires enough force exertion to make my list. It's a lot of back and forth. There isn't enough explosive weight movement aside from their own bodyweight, and really all sports have that as a baseline - with maybe Golf and Bowling as possible exceptions because long term body movement isn't a major factor. This is an area I put defensive line ahead of basketball, because of the contact and high impact nature of it. That gives it points in front of Basketball IMO.

That's why I defer to things that require lots power as well as speed. It takes greater effort to vault into flips than to dunk a basketball. It takes greater effort to kick someone in the head than to hit a free throw or swing at a ball. I'm not saying basketball and baseball are easy. Just looking strictly at athletic demand, though I do think skill difficulty should be factored.

LeBron was just an example of an athlete, not proof that basketball players are superior. My basic thesis comes down to this: basketball players have the traits that many professional athletes have, except they are all gigantic. I know a few people who are 6'7" and above that walk around like they are on stilts. To have such extreme body control at such a great size, to me, is the peak of athleticism. There's this dude at my gym who is 7 feet tall (i think he played for a D-league team) and watching him on the court is insane. He's not only more coordinated than anyone around him, his moves are effortless. To see someone that big move like that close up is pretty amazing... and he's not even near good enough to make the league!

Just because an athlete has decided to play basketball, doesn't mean they wouldn't have been a good fighter. i assume basketball players would be too big to be gymnasts, but there's plenty a basketball player can do that a gymnast cannot.

it's kind of a silly argument, I suppose, since its all apples and oranges and these sports all require a tremendous amount of athleticism, I just think basketball players have the general skills that make up a great athlete, and have them at an unnatural size.

RonMexico
08-22-2016, 11:20 AM
LeBron was just an example of an athlete, not proof that basketball players are superior. My basic thesis comes down to this: basketball players have the traits that many professional athletes have, except they are all gigantic. I know a few people who are 6'7" and above that walk around like they are on stilts. To have such extreme body control at such a great size, to me, is the peak of athleticism. There's this dude at my gym who is 7 feet tall (i think he played for a D-league team) and watching him on the court is insane. He's not only more coordinated than anyone around him, his moves are effortless. To see someone that big move like that close up is pretty amazing... and he's not even near good enough to make the league!

Just because an athlete has decided to play basketball, doesn't mean they wouldn't have been a good fighter. i assume basketball players would be too big to be gymnasts, but there's plenty a basketball player can do that a gymnast cannot.

it's kind of a silly argument, I suppose, since its all apples and oranges and these sports all require a tremendous amount of athleticism, I just think basketball players have the general skills that make up a great athlete, and have them at an unnatural size.

Shaq and Dirk Nowitzki are two 7-footers I have seen do their thing up close and it's unsettling to see someone of that size move as freely as they do and to have such control over their bodies. It's freakish and strange.

Arkie
08-22-2016, 11:36 AM
It takes greater effort to vault into flips than to dunk a basketball.

Does it take a greater effort to vault a 90lb body into flips than to dunk a basketball with a 250lb body? BTW, I think gymnastics and basketball are two of the most athletic sports. Basketball is the most acrobatic team sport plus you need speed, endurance, and touch.

RonMexico
08-22-2016, 12:03 PM
Does it take a greater effort to vault a 90lb body into flips than to dunk a basketball with a 250lb body? BTW, I think gymnastics and basketball are two of the most athletic sports. Basketball is the most acrobatic team sport plus you need speed, endurance, and touch.

Those gymnasts are all four-foot-nothing and rarely last into their mid 20's.

Upper body strength, flips, cartwheels, etc. are much easier when the body is compact.

Kaylore
08-22-2016, 12:06 PM
I think size plays both ways and so is a wash for me. Again, you're speaking to the quality of the athlete, not the athletic demands of the sport. Basketball happens to have tall players. So does volleyball and ultimate Frisbee. But I don't believe "they are tall" is necessarily an indication of athletic ability. There are also some very short people who's small stature affords them incredible athletic ability. See: Darren Sproles, Mary Lou Retton, Olympic weight lifters.

SonOfLe-loLang
08-22-2016, 12:08 PM
I think size plays both ways and so is a wash for me. Again, you're speaking to the quality of the athlete, not the athletic demands of the sport. Basketball happens to have tall players. So does volleyball and ultimate Frisbee. But I don't believe "they are tall" is necessarily an indication of athletic ability. There are also some very short people who's small stature affords them incredible athletic ability. See: Darren Sproles, Mary Lou Retton, Olympic weight lifters.

Its more that they are tall and are able to do the things not necessarily associated with tall people.

RonMexico
08-22-2016, 12:14 PM
Its more that they are tall and are able to do the things not necessarily associated with tall people.

Their skill and agility are actually easier to see when they are tall.

BroncoBeavis
08-22-2016, 12:48 PM
Combat sports definitely not getting enough love here.

Wrestling especially.

BroncoBeavis
08-22-2016, 12:51 PM
Those gymnasts are all four-foot-nothing and rarely last into their mid 20's.

Upper body strength, flips, cartwheels, etc. are much easier when the body is compact.

Pound for pound though...

That used to be considered a thing.

Just because the welterweight can't step to the heavyweight doesn't make him a lesser athlete.

Requiem
08-22-2016, 12:52 PM
Gymnastics is more like a game played at recess as opposed to a sport.

TonyR
08-22-2016, 12:53 PM
Using a strength, speed, agility, endurance, hand-eye coordination ranking, these guys say:
1) MMA
2) Basketball
3) Football
4) Boxing
5) Wrestling
6) Tennis
7) Soccer
8) Gymnastics
9) Badminton
10) Ice hockey

https://www.muscleprodigy.com/top-10-most-athletic-sports/

BroncoBeavis
08-22-2016, 12:55 PM
Soccer requires so much of every player in terms of the academically defined athletic traits: speed, balance, power, explosiveness, etc. and also requires incredible vision, technical skill, creativity, and brute strength.

It's kind of a smorgasbord of athleticism.

A hands-free smorgasbord?

Soccer's very demanding. But the best all-around athletes should at least be using their whole body.

BroncoBeavis
08-22-2016, 12:57 PM
Gymnastics is more like a game played at recess as opposed to a sport.

I do struggle with anything based on scoring judges.

But even granted, that doesn't make gymnasts less athletic.

TonyR
08-22-2016, 12:58 PM
Several years ago, a panel of experts sought to answer the controversial question of which sport is the most difficult. The experts used 10 categories to try and figure out which sport requires the most athleticism. The panel included sports scientists on the Olympic Committee, researchers who study human muscle and movement, an athlete who competed successfully at both baseball and football (Brian Jordan), and sports journalists who spend their lives documenting the rise and fall of the best athletes.

To try to objectively rank the 60 sports in contention, the panelists broke each sport down to 10 separate components, as follows:

ENDURANCE: The ability to continue to perform a skill or action for an extended period of time. Example: cyclists or distance runners

STRENGTH: The ability to produce force (force=mass*acceleration). Example: NFL defensive linemen or weight-lifters

POWER: The ability to produce strength in the shortest possible time. Example: baseball sluggers

SPEED: The ability to move your body quickly. Example: Sprinters, speed skaters, or NFL wide receivers

AGILITY: The ability to change direction quickly. Example: Baseball shortstops or basketball players

FLEXIBILITY: The ability to stretch the joints across a large range of motion. Example: Gymnasts, divers, or figure skaters

NERVE: The ability to overcome fear and control your bodyís stress response. Example: boxers and race car drivers.

DURABILITY: The ability to withstand physical punishment over an extended period. Example: Boxers or football players (especially running backs)

HAND-EYE COORDINATION: The ability to react quickly to sensory perception. Example: A baseball player reacting to a knuckleball

ANALYTIC APTITUDE: The ability to evaluate, reevaluated, and react appropriately to strategic situations. Example: Russell Wilson breaking down the defense before hiking the ball.

Using the 10 categories, the panelists gave each sport a score under each category, with a maximum of 10 points per category. Then, the points are added to a total of 100 points maximum. Note that there arenít any sports that totaled up to 100 points, but that is the absolute maximum one sport can get.

After all was said and done, here are the results of how the panelists ranked the 60 sports according to which one takes the most athleticism to succeed. Remember, it is not which sport takes the most time to learn to play leisurely, the ranking is according to which sport takes the most athleticism to be good at.

See the rankings here: (top 5 are boxing, ice hockey, football, basketball, wrestling)

http://examinedexistence.com/which-sport-requires-the-most-athleticism/

Kaylore
08-22-2016, 01:01 PM
Its more that they are tall and are able to do the things not necessarily associated with tall people.

But I would argue that's indicative of the athletes, not the sport. I mean it ultimately comes down to that in a broad sense, but Basketball the sport really only asks players to pass a light ball around to each other, bounce it on the ground, and throw it into the basket. Aspects around the culture of basketball as far as how it is played added running and jumping. Running, jumping and throwing things at a hole are not athletically demanding compared to other sports IMO. In fact, contact is discouraged. I cannot hold it up as the ultimate sport in terms of athletic demands.

Requiem
08-22-2016, 01:04 PM
But even granted, that doesn't make gymnasts less athletic.

It takes more athleticism than golf, which should never be classified as a sport and be in a category called, "Leisure Time Activities Found to Be More Enjoyable With Alcohol" -- bowling and pool would also be placed here too.

BroncoBeavis
08-22-2016, 01:06 PM
It takes more athleticism than golf, which should never be classified as a sport and be in a category called, "Leisure Time Activities Found to Be More Enjoyable With Alcohol" -- bowling and pool would also be placed here too.

Come on now.

If the sport involves unaccompanied feats that the vast majority of the public at large would injure themselves attempting.... there should be at least SOME appreciation.

I've seen 2nd graders who could shoot free throws. Not sure Shaq ever figured it out.

SonOfLe-loLang
08-22-2016, 01:10 PM
But I would argue that's indicative of the athletes, not the sport. I mean it ultimately comes down to that in a broad sense, but Basketball the sport really only asks players to pass a light ball around to each other, bounce it on the ground, and throw it into the basket. Aspects around the culture of basketball as far as how it is played added running and jumping. Running, jumping and throwing things at a hole are not athletically demanding compared to other sports IMO. In fact, contact is discouraged. I cannot hold it up as the ultimate sport in terms of athletic demands.

Oh i agree with that part. I just think our best athletes are playing it.

RonMexico
08-22-2016, 01:19 PM
Several years ago, a panel of experts sought to answer the controversial question of which sport is the most difficult. The experts used 10 categories to try and figure out which sport requires the most athleticism. The panel included sports scientists on the Olympic Committee, researchers who study human muscle and movement, an athlete who competed successfully at both baseball and football (Brian Jordan), and sports journalists who spend their lives documenting the rise and fall of the best athletes.

To try to objectively rank the 60 sports in contention, the panelists broke each sport down to 10 separate components, as follows:

ENDURANCE: The ability to continue to perform a skill or action for an extended period of time. Example: cyclists or distance runners

STRENGTH: The ability to produce force (force=mass*acceleration). Example: NFL defensive linemen or weight-lifters

POWER: The ability to produce strength in the shortest possible time. Example: baseball sluggers

SPEED: The ability to move your body quickly. Example: Sprinters, speed skaters, or NFL wide receivers

AGILITY: The ability to change direction quickly. Example: Baseball shortstops or basketball players

FLEXIBILITY: The ability to stretch the joints across a large range of motion. Example: Gymnasts, divers, or figure skaters

NERVE: The ability to overcome fear and control your bodyís stress response. Example: boxers and race car drivers.

DURABILITY: The ability to withstand physical punishment over an extended period. Example: Boxers or football players (especially running backs)

HAND-EYE COORDINATION: The ability to react quickly to sensory perception. Example: A baseball player reacting to a knuckleball

ANALYTIC APTITUDE: The ability to evaluate, reevaluated, and react appropriately to strategic situations. Example: Russell Wilson breaking down the defense before hiking the ball.

Using the 10 categories, the panelists gave each sport a score under each category, with a maximum of 10 points per category. Then, the points are added to a total of 100 points maximum. Note that there arenít any sports that totaled up to 100 points, but that is the absolute maximum one sport can get.

After all was said and done, here are the results of how the panelists ranked the 60 sports according to which one takes the most athleticism to succeed. Remember, it is not which sport takes the most time to learn to play leisurely, the ranking is according to which sport takes the most athleticism to be good at.

See the rankings here: (top 5 are boxing, ice hockey, football, basketball, wrestling)

http://examinedexistence.com/which-sport-requires-the-most-athleticism/

Nerve? Durability? Really? Those both seem included to justify the inclusion of sports heavy in contact like football and MMA.

mwill07
08-22-2016, 01:27 PM
Several years ago, a panel of experts sought to answer the controversial question of which sport is the most difficult. The experts used 10 categories to try and figure out which sport requires the most athleticism. The panel included sports scientists on the Olympic Committee, researchers who study human muscle and movement, an athlete who competed successfully at both baseball and football (Brian Jordan), and sports journalists who spend their lives documenting the rise and fall of the best athletes.

To try to objectively rank the 60 sports in contention, the panelists broke each sport down to 10 separate components, as follows:

ENDURANCE: The ability to continue to perform a skill or action for an extended period of time. Example: cyclists or distance runners

STRENGTH: The ability to produce force (force=mass*acceleration). Example: NFL defensive linemen or weight-lifters

POWER: The ability to produce strength in the shortest possible time. Example: baseball sluggers

SPEED: The ability to move your body quickly. Example: Sprinters, speed skaters, or NFL wide receivers

AGILITY: The ability to change direction quickly. Example: Baseball shortstops or basketball players

FLEXIBILITY: The ability to stretch the joints across a large range of motion. Example: Gymnasts, divers, or figure skaters

NERVE: The ability to overcome fear and control your bodyís stress response. Example: boxers and race car drivers.

DURABILITY: The ability to withstand physical punishment over an extended period. Example: Boxers or football players (especially running backs)

HAND-EYE COORDINATION: The ability to react quickly to sensory perception. Example: A baseball player reacting to a knuckleball

ANALYTIC APTITUDE: The ability to evaluate, reevaluated, and react appropriately to strategic situations. Example: Russell Wilson breaking down the defense before hiking the ball.

Using the 10 categories, the panelists gave each sport a score under each category, with a maximum of 10 points per category. Then, the points are added to a total of 100 points maximum. Note that there arenít any sports that totaled up to 100 points, but that is the absolute maximum one sport can get.

After all was said and done, here are the results of how the panelists ranked the 60 sports according to which one takes the most athleticism to succeed. Remember, it is not which sport takes the most time to learn to play leisurely, the ranking is according to which sport takes the most athleticism to be good at.

See the rankings here: (top 5 are boxing, ice hockey, football, basketball, wrestling)

http://examinedexistence.com/which-sport-requires-the-most-athleticism/

I'd point out that MMA is a legitimate combination of 3 of the top 6 sports - not a mash-up, but a complete, simultaneous combination.

- MMA bouts are scored exactly like boxing bouts (while on feet)
- MMA bouts are scored as jiu-jitsu (while on the ground)
- MMA fighters use wrestling to determine if the fight will be a boxing match or grappling match.

elsid13
08-22-2016, 01:50 PM
Using a strength, speed, agility, endurance, hand-eye coordination ranking, these guys say:
1) MMA
2) Basketball
3) Football
4) Boxing
5) Wrestling
6) Tennis
7) Soccer
8) Gymnastics
9) Badminton
10) Ice hockey

https://www.muscleprodigy.com/top-10-most-athletic-sports/

Having Badminton in there kinda throws the list into question. I know it played at high level in Asia, but watching the Olympics and seeing the players I couldn't put it in the top twenty.

ColoradoDarin
08-22-2016, 03:07 PM
Several years ago, a panel of experts sought to answer the controversial question of which sport is the most difficult. The experts used 10 categories to try and figure out which sport requires the most athleticism. The panel included sports scientists on the Olympic Committee, researchers who study human muscle and movement, an athlete who competed successfully at both baseball and football (Brian Jordan), and sports journalists who spend their lives documenting the rise and fall of the best athletes.

To try to objectively rank the 60 sports in contention, the panelists broke each sport down to 10 separate components, as follows:

ENDURANCE: The ability to continue to perform a skill or action for an extended period of time. Example: cyclists or distance runners

STRENGTH: The ability to produce force (force=mass*acceleration). Example: NFL defensive linemen or weight-lifters

POWER: The ability to produce strength in the shortest possible time. Example: baseball sluggers

SPEED: The ability to move your body quickly. Example: Sprinters, speed skaters, or NFL wide receivers

AGILITY: The ability to change direction quickly. Example: Baseball shortstops or basketball players

FLEXIBILITY: The ability to stretch the joints across a large range of motion. Example: Gymnasts, divers, or figure skaters

NERVE: The ability to overcome fear and control your bodyís stress response. Example: boxers and race car drivers.

DURABILITY: The ability to withstand physical punishment over an extended period. Example: Boxers or football players (especially running backs)

HAND-EYE COORDINATION: The ability to react quickly to sensory perception. Example: A baseball player reacting to a knuckleball

ANALYTIC APTITUDE: The ability to evaluate, reevaluated, and react appropriately to strategic situations. Example: Russell Wilson breaking down the defense before hiking the ball.

Using the 10 categories, the panelists gave each sport a score under each category, with a maximum of 10 points per category. Then, the points are added to a total of 100 points maximum. Note that there arenít any sports that totaled up to 100 points, but that is the absolute maximum one sport can get.

After all was said and done, here are the results of how the panelists ranked the 60 sports according to which one takes the most athleticism to succeed. Remember, it is not which sport takes the most time to learn to play leisurely, the ranking is according to which sport takes the most athleticism to be good at.

See the rankings here: (top 5 are boxing, ice hockey, football, basketball, wrestling)

http://examinedexistence.com/which-sport-requires-the-most-athleticism/

According to him, you need almost as much power for golf as you do for gymnastics...

BroncoBeavis
08-22-2016, 03:54 PM
According to him, you need almost as much power for golf as you do for gymnastics...

No kidding. Whenever I even try to do my 40oz curls out there, the course manager drives out to tell me to dial it down a notch.

Dedhed
08-22-2016, 04:23 PM
According to him, you need almost as much power for golf as you do for gymnastics...

What is your point? If you think they dont, youd be wrong. A proffessional Golfer generates extreme force.

ColoradoDarin
08-22-2016, 05:35 PM
What is your point? If you think they dont, youd be wrong. A proffessional Golfer generates extreme force.

My dad is a 2 handicap golfer.

He only picked it up when he retired in 2001. He's 5'7", 135 pounds and 72 years old. Shot a 75 yesterday from the tips in 102 degree Phoenix heat.

Now I'll readily admit he couldn't even play on the Senior tour and there are some younger guys who can drive it 400 yards. Come on, some power in golf is necessary, but not nearly what gymnasts need in order to flip their bodies into the air.

Agamemnon
08-22-2016, 05:37 PM
Curling or bowling. Hard to say...

TonyR
08-22-2016, 07:13 PM
Nerve? Durability? Really? Those both seem included to justify the inclusion of sports heavy in contact like football and MMA.

You don't think a gymnast, or even a tennis player, just to pick a couple of non-contact sports, needs nerve or durability? Let me clue you in here: they do.

RonMexico
08-22-2016, 07:34 PM
You don't think a gymnast, or even a tennis player, just to pick a couple of non-contact sports, needs nerve or durability? Let me clue you in here: they do.

That's not the point. The point is deeper between the lines.

Football needs justification to be ranked highly on these lists. Positions are so specialized that you cannot make a blanket statement about the athletic traits of them all. You'd have to rank them by positions, and several of the positions would be ranked lowly, including the holy grail position:quarterback.

AlaskaMagnum
08-22-2016, 07:43 PM
Jockeys are considered the most seriously injured athletes. Death is not uncommon. No one has more nerve or durability than a 90 lb man on a saddle that is ridiculously flimsy riding a 1200 lb monster traveling 35 mph among a pack of other monsters doing the same thing while balancing on your toes.

Agamemnon
08-22-2016, 07:48 PM
Jockeys are considered the most seriously injured athletes. Death is not uncommon. No one has more nerve or durability than a 90 lb man on a saddle that is ridiculously flimsy riding a 1200 lb monster traveling 35 mph among a pack of other monsters doing the same thing while balancing on your toes.

I'm pretty sure the question wasn't what is the most dangerous sport? That would be a very different list.

DENVERDUI55
08-22-2016, 07:50 PM
Jockeys are considered the most seriously injured athletes. Death is not uncommon. No one has more nerve or durability than a 90 lb man on a saddle that is ridiculously flimsy riding a 1200 lb monster traveling 35 mph among a pack of other monsters doing the same thing while balancing on your toes.
Bull riding is worse. Speaking of athletes, you have to be a hell of an athlete to make a living and survive that sport. It's not if you get hurt, it is when and how bad.

Cito Pelon
08-22-2016, 07:58 PM
Hockey also involves taking a beating and doesnt stop every ten seconds. Gymnastics takes great strength and agility, but boxing takes more so. Football is up there. I would say basketball is maybe 5th.

Yeah, I hadn't considered boxing. That's a brutal sport, one has to be inclined toward that instead of another sport.

Hockey involves a lot of pure fistfights, no gloves, just knuckles on faces, the only sport that allows that, the referees let them go at it, fist to face.

socalorado
08-22-2016, 08:01 PM
Nerve? Durability? Really? Those both seem included to justify the inclusion of sports heavy in contact like football and MMA.

Yeah. There's no "Ghey Factor" in there for you soccer dorks. Sorry, Ronaldo.

Agamemnon
08-22-2016, 08:02 PM
Yeah. There's no "Ghey Factor" in there for you soccer dorks. Sorry, Ronaldo.

:spit:

Rohirrim
08-22-2016, 08:14 PM
My dad is a 2 handicap golfer.

He only picked it up when he retired in 2001. He's 5'7", 135 pounds and 72 years old. Shot a 75 yesterday from the tips in 102 degree Phoenix heat.

Now I'll readily admit he couldn't even play on the Senior tour and there are some younger guys who can drive it 400 yards. Come on, some power in golf is necessary, but not nearly what gymnasts need in order to flip their bodies into the air.

Long drives are more a result of good timing than strength.

Endzo
08-22-2016, 08:16 PM
Imo: wrestling.

RonMexico
08-22-2016, 08:17 PM
Yeah. There's no "Ghey Factor" in there for you soccer dorks. Sorry, Ronaldo.

These homophobic jokes are still a thing?

socalorado
08-22-2016, 08:32 PM
These homophobic jokes are still a thing?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/7d/47/d4/7d47d4fef5d0547df6a58358cccfbe91.jpg

DENVERDUI55
08-22-2016, 08:53 PM
My dad is a 2 handicap golfer.

He only picked it up when he retired in 2001. He's 5'7", 135 pounds and 72 years old. Shot a 75 yesterday from the tips in 102 degree Phoenix heat.

Now I'll readily admit he couldn't even play on the Senior tour and there are some younger guys who can drive it 400 yards. Come on, some power in golf is necessary, but not nearly what gymnasts need in order to flip their bodies into the air.
What course?

HAT
08-22-2016, 10:45 PM
Pound for pound.....It's thoroughbred race riders at the top tracks in NY, CA, FLA. (Not bullrings in **** towns or QH jocks or buggy drivers)

Overall, it's the TB's themselves.

If we're talking strictly humans......Hockey.

USMCBladerunner
08-22-2016, 11:20 PM
Water Polo? Unless there's underwater indian leg wrestling going on at the same time, that sport would never strike me as having the best atheletes. LMAO

Actually, there pretty much is underwater indian leg wrestling going on at the same time...all the time, except when you are sprint swimming to the other end.

The Navy SEALs are all about water polo players.

From: http://www.webpronews.com/navy-seals-recruit-heavily-from-seven-sports-2014-06/

"In 2010, the Navy, with the help of Gallup, identified seven sports that breed athletes who have the highest rate of becoming a SEALówater polo, swimming, triathlons, lacrosse, boxing, rugby, and wrestling. Of that group, water polo players had the highest odds of making through SEAL training, odds that doubled if they played the sport in college."

It's a tough sport.

Willynowei
08-22-2016, 11:23 PM
Sports like Baseball and Golf don't belong in this discussion. They are sports sure, but not sports require a ton of athleticism. Same goes for Drivers.

DHallblows
08-23-2016, 07:22 AM
These homophobic jokes are still a thing?

Ignore the teenager.

ColoradoDarin
08-23-2016, 07:24 AM
What course?

Kierland in Scottsdale