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Bronc0guy
01-08-2016, 01:09 PM
He's due a big chunk of change, but it never really crossed my mind that we might cut his salary, given the way he's performed this season. It was just mentioned on the radio, and it got me wondering.

broncosteven
01-08-2016, 01:17 PM
They need to sign Von, 1st and foremost. Talib is worth every penny, if anything I could see John reworking his deal to spread that hit out more and lock him up for a few more years.

ludo21
01-08-2016, 01:22 PM
The Denver D relies way too heavily on their corners to dump them. One of the DT's would go first.

69bronco
01-08-2016, 01:28 PM
I think so, roby has been playing good enough to play cb2.

The Joker
01-08-2016, 01:33 PM
I sincerely hope not. He's still only 29 and is playing in a perfect defense for him, I'm a huge Harris fan but Talib matches up better with the majority of the top receivers in the league. I think the plan is likely for Roby to take Talib's spot eventually, but we've got a few years of Roby on a cheap deal so we can afford to keep Talib until the time comes to pay Roby.

I really doubt we'd find a better way to spend the 10m he's getting a year so it'd be dumb to get rid of him.

Guess Who
01-08-2016, 01:39 PM
He's due a big chunk of change, but it never really crossed my mind that we might cut his salary, given the way he's performed this season. It was just mentioned on the radio, and it got me wondering.

I thought that was the plan when they gave him the contract but n0w.... no way. The guy is terrific.

BossChief
01-08-2016, 01:42 PM
They need to sign Von, 1st and foremost. Talib is worth every penny, if anything I could see John reworking his deal to spread that hit out more and lock him up for a few more years.

He's almost 30

Ziggy
01-08-2016, 02:05 PM
Talib's contract is for 8.5 million next season. That's a bargain for a pro bowl man cover corner in today's NFL. No way they dump him.

gyldenlove
01-08-2016, 02:12 PM
I don't see any way that happens. His pay and cap hits are both perfectly reasonable, his play has been very good and there are no significant injury concerns. Cutting either Clady or Ware would yield a much bigger cap and cash savings.

Colquitt, Clady and Manning would be the obvious contracts that can be reworked to save money and cap.

JoshMcDanielsIsTheDevil
01-08-2016, 02:24 PM
He's almost 30

And?

IndelibleScribe
01-08-2016, 02:24 PM
He's our biggest CB and able to man up on taller WR's and allows our other CB's to play extremely favorable match ups that suit their skills and not put them in a bad position.

I sincerely doubt Elway will cut him. Rework his deal to make it more cap friendly? Sure, cut him? No sir. The defense relies on the CB's to be able to play on an island somewhat and allow the defense line to wreak havoc along with the LB's.

DBroncos4life
01-08-2016, 02:39 PM
No.

DBroncos4life
01-08-2016, 02:39 PM
And?

That is the age he retired and moved back in with his mom. So he thinks it's normal to have life changes then.

BroncosSR
01-08-2016, 02:47 PM
I don't think after this year. Probably after next year when he's due 12 MM and only would have a 2 MM dead cap hit.

BossChief
01-08-2016, 02:50 PM
And?

Go ahead and give Him a restructure and push money forward.

Bronco Rob
01-08-2016, 02:53 PM
Go ahead and give a long term extension to him.



http://chiefsplanet.com/bb/showthread.php?t=295244



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baja
01-08-2016, 02:59 PM
I sincerely hope not. He's still only 29 and is playing in a perfect defense for him, I'm a huge Harris fan but Talib matches up better with the majority of the top receivers in the league. I think the plan is likely for Roby to take Talib's spot eventually, but we've got a few years of Roby on a cheap deal so we can afford to keep Talib until the time comes to pay Roby.

I really doubt we'd find a better way to spend the 10m he's getting a year so it'd be dumb to get rid of him.

Not to mention in todays NFL you really need 3 good corners.

BossChief
01-08-2016, 03:03 PM
I fixed that post, btw. I meant to say restructure, not extension. Talib is already signed through 2018 or so.

His base is 8.5, so Elway can make a portion of that a signing bonus and spread it out over the remaining years of his deal...but then that becomes dead money if you want to cut him in the future.

It's like buying on credit when you have cash in the bank.

BossChief
01-08-2016, 03:16 PM
http://chiefsplanet.com/bb/showthread.php?t=295244



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First of all, why are you trying to derail the thread with your trolling? This thread is about Talib, not KC.

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When they were 1-4, they didn't play with heart.

Poe was on the radio with Soren Petro the other day and was asked if the first Denver matchup deflated the team and Poe said it did and that the whole locker room felt they did more that enough to win that game. Said it lingered with them for "a couple weeks".

My thread about them not playing with any heart was dead on accurate at the time.

Since then, they have been on a crazy tear where KC out scored its opponents 278-128.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-08-2016, 03:17 PM
http://chiefsplanet.com/bb/showthread.php?t=295244



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AbsenteeDad Chief gonna absentee dad.

BossChief
01-08-2016, 03:18 PM
AbsenteeDad Chief gonna absentee dad.

Great. Another troll that wants to derail a thread then say I did it.

Super.

This guy is one of the biggest pussies on the Internet..says every day he has me on ignore.

Never goes a day without talking about me.

IndelibleScribe
01-08-2016, 03:23 PM
Not to mention in todays NFL you really need 3 good corners.

3 good CB's and a S who can make plays unless you have a beast of a DL like the Giants when they won their 2 SB's.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-08-2016, 03:26 PM
I fixed that post, btw. I meant to say restructure, not extension. Talib is already signed through 2018 or so.

His base is 8.5, so Elway can make a portion of that a signing bonus and spread it out over the remaining years of his deal...but then that becomes dead money if you want to cut him in the future.

It's like buying on credit when you have cash in the bank.

We dont normally do these things anymore

pricejj
01-08-2016, 03:51 PM
Don't mess with Talib.

He's worth every penny of $6.9M this year, and he'll be worth $9.9M in 2016. Broncos got this dude on a steal. Can re-negotiate him in 2017 if necessary.

Powderaddict
01-08-2016, 03:53 PM
Heck no.

Talib is not only playing out of his mind, he provides that psycho edge any great defense needs.

Action
01-08-2016, 03:59 PM
It wouldn't set a good business precedent cutting a player/asking to cut his salary if he's performed up to par to his value...and be a key part to this defense.

I would say no, this idea is just bad business.

eddie mac
01-08-2016, 04:00 PM
He's due a big chunk of change, but it never really crossed my mind that we might cut his salary, given the way he's performed this season. It was just mentioned on the radio, and it got me wondering.

7th highest paid cornerback in the league next year whilst Harris is the 15th. Both players are playing better than what they earn so they both stay.

Until Webster makes the jump to a starting CB, Broncos wont even consider dumping Aqib. This a 3 CB game now minimum.

Broncos CB's cash in 2016

7. Talib $8.97m
15. Harris $7m
51. Roby $1.05m
67. Webster $687k
112. Doss $525k

These are the 4-5 guys we'll be looking at releasing/taking major paycuts. The number is their pay ranking in cash for the 2016 season.

2. OLB Ware $10m
4. QB Manning $19m
6. OT Clady $9.5m
6. OG Vazquez $5.5m
4. P Colquitt $3.25m

extralife
01-08-2016, 04:18 PM
he gets next year without a doubt. after next year he could certainly be gone, but only because Roby is good.

wicked bronco
01-08-2016, 04:25 PM
Talib is a bargain right now.

wicked bronco
01-08-2016, 04:31 PM
These are the 4-5 guys we'll be looking at releasing/taking major paycuts. The number is their pay ranking in cash for the 2016 season.

2. OLB Ware $10m
4. QB Manning $19m
6. OT Clady $9.5m
6. OG Vazquez $5.5m
4. P Colquitt $3.25m

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RepentWalpurgis
01-08-2016, 04:45 PM
Hell no. Terrific player and brings the attitude a top defense needs.

KipCorrington25
01-08-2016, 05:00 PM
Colquitt at 3.25 is the crime of the century, the guy is a bum.

IndelibleScribe
01-08-2016, 05:58 PM
7th highest paid cornerback in the league next year whilst Harris is the 15th. Both players are playing better than what they earn so they both stay.

Until Webster makes the jump to a starting CB, Broncos wont even consider dumping Aqib. This a 3 CB game now minimum.

Broncos CB's cash in 2016

7. Talib $8.97m
15. Harris $7m
51. Roby $1.05m
67. Webster $687k
112. Doss $525k

These are the 4-5 guys we'll be looking at releasing/taking major paycuts. The number is their pay ranking in cash for the 2016 season.

2. OLB Ware $10m
4. QB Manning $19m
6. OT Clady $9.5m
6. OG Vazquez $5.5m
4. P Colquitt $3.25m

Cannot keep those 2. Frees up too much money by releasing them.
Clady might get reworked but I doubt he will be released.

broncosteven
01-08-2016, 06:17 PM
7th highest paid cornerback in the league next year whilst Harris is the 15th. Both players are playing better than what they earn so they both stay.

Until Webster makes the jump to a starting CB, Broncos wont even consider dumping Aqib. This a 3 CB game now minimum.

Broncos CB's cash in 2016

7. Talib $8.97m
15. Harris $7m
51. Roby $1.05m
67. Webster $687k
112. Doss $525k

These are the 4-5 guys we'll be looking at releasing/taking major paycuts. The number is their pay ranking in cash for the 2016 season.

2. OLB Ware $10m
4. QB Manning $19m
6. OT Clady $9.5m
6. OG Vazquez $5.5m
4. P Colquitt $3.25m

Ware is likely gone, I hope they can rework Clady's deal too. Throw in the QB money and we have a ton of room to keep Von and Wolf and Danny and still get a game managing QB that can win us the division again.

DomCasual
01-08-2016, 06:21 PM
I don't see any way that happens. His pay and cap hits are both perfectly reasonable, his play has been very good and there are no significant injury concerns. Cutting either Clady or Ware would yield a much bigger cap and cash savings.

Colquitt, Clady and Manning would be the obvious contracts that can be reworked to save money and cap.

There's no way you cut Colquitt. What he does for this team is just too important. It's good to know that when you have to punt, you're going to get that 30 yards, every time. Plus, he's a beast on holding for kicks.

Cito Pelon
01-08-2016, 07:04 PM
Talib calls out the offense. I admire he says the offense has to score more points.

IndelibleScribe
01-08-2016, 07:38 PM
There's no way you cut Colquitt. What he does for this team is just too important. It's good to know that when you have to punt, you're going to get that 30 yards, every time. Plus, he's a beast on holding for kicks.

I know this is all sarcasm...but if he remains on the roster I am blaming you.

Bronco Rob
01-08-2016, 07:52 PM
AbsenteeDad Chief gonna absentee dad.


Boss is such a valuable part of the Mane.


Were was this invaluable member weeks 2-8?



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Bronc0guy
01-08-2016, 08:04 PM
Agree with everyone on this, thought it was pretty silly when I heard that brought up on CBS radio this afternoon. There's nothing we could do with that money that would be anywhere near the value we are getting with Talib.

I'm still of the belief they will rework Clady's deal and keep him, it's not like he's going to get a huge pay day anywhere else with all those injuries. I think PFM, Vasquez, Ware, and I PRAY TO GOD, Colquitt will be cut.

*WARHORSE*
01-08-2016, 08:08 PM
Any chance Denver cuts Talib next year?



No.

IndelibleScribe
01-08-2016, 08:22 PM
The real question is how soon will Elway extend Sanders. He signed for 3 years and next year is the last season he will be under contract.

Bronc0guy
01-08-2016, 08:34 PM
The real question is how soon will Elway extend Sanders. He signed for 3 years and next year is the last season he will be under contract.

Very realistic we could lose him, but he does seem to love playing in Denver, so hope I'm wrong.

oubronco
01-08-2016, 08:36 PM
And?

Still better than anything the Queefs have

IndelibleScribe
01-08-2016, 09:06 PM
Very realistic we could lose him, but he does seem to love playing in Denver, so hope I'm wrong.

I assume we will have to pay him somewhere around 6.25 to 7.2 mil per on his next deal. Too productive for his agent to allow him to sign for 5 again.

Bronc0guy
01-08-2016, 09:09 PM
I assume we will have to pay him somewhere around 6.25 to 7.2 mil per on his next deal. Too productive for his agent to allow him to sign for 5 again.

No doubt. My thing is, were the Steelers just not using this guy right or what? He's proven this year he's not just a product of Manning. Complete stud, maybe my favorite player on the team. Can you imagine him playing at his current level on that Pittsburgh offense? Yikes.

ZONA
01-08-2016, 09:16 PM
I think so, roby has been playing good enough to play cb2.

You must be forgetting that a great defense really indeed should have 3 really good CB's. It's not good enough anymore to have just 1 or 2. Talib is a playmaker, has great size and physicality for the position. I think they try to keep him.

Bronc0guy
01-08-2016, 09:22 PM
There's no way you cut Colquitt. What he does for this team is just too important. It's good to know that when you have to punt, you're going to get that 30 yards, every time. Plus, he's a beast on holding for kicks.

60% of the time he kicks it 30 yards, every time.

You just put some heavy evil on us with that sarcasm, Dom.

IndelibleScribe
01-08-2016, 09:52 PM
No doubt. My thing is, were the Steelers just not using this guy right or what? He's proven this year he's not just a product of Manning. Complete stud, maybe my favorite player on the team. Can you imagine him playing at his current level on that Pittsburgh offense? Yikes.

He had Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown ahead of him. Then in 2013 which was the only season he played in which Wallace was not there. Ben developed a heavy chemistry with Jerricho Cotchery.

pricejj
01-08-2016, 10:05 PM
Besides injuries, Colquitt and McAnus are the only fools who could possibly ruin this season. Gulp.

DomCasual
01-08-2016, 10:45 PM
I know this is all sarcasm...but if he remains on the roster I am blaming you.
60% of the time he kicks it 30 yards, every time.

You just put some heavy evil on us with that sarcasm, Dom.

If he stays on the roster, it would mean that he has compromising photographs of Elway with either sheep or teenage Ethiopian boys. If either one of those is the case, we'll be complaining about Colquitt's 20-yard average in 2030.

baja
01-08-2016, 10:52 PM
If he stays on the roster, it would mean that he has compromising photographs of Elway with either sheep or teenage Ethiopian boys. If either one of those is the case, we'll be complaining about Colquitt's 20-yard average in 2030.

No, JFE will make him a back up kicker, he will be the only kicker in history to carry a clip board.

Bronc0guy
01-09-2016, 01:28 AM
He had Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown ahead of him. Then in 2013 which was the only season he played in which Wallace was not there. Ben developed a heavy chemistry with Jerricho Cotchery.

I always forget Mike Wallace was there then.

pricejj
01-09-2016, 05:20 AM
he kicks it 30 yards, every time.


30 yards with the wind at altitude

Bronco Yoda
01-09-2016, 06:21 AM
Pay the man

Dos Rios
01-09-2016, 06:53 AM
I stay away from Manning/Osweiler threads. Has the board obsessed over the scenario of Manning winning Superbowl MVP and then getting cut?

ColoradoDarin
01-09-2016, 07:18 AM
Talib's contract is for 8.5 million next season. That's a bargain for a pro bowl man cover corner in today's NFL. No way they dump him.

This.

There's an outside chance he gets cut for 2017 as his cap # for for 2017 and 2018 (http://overthecap.com/player/aqib-talib/1624/) are $12m each (and drops to $8m flat salary in 2019), but even that's a decent price for a top CB, considering we have Harris signed to a great contract as well.

I actually see him playing out his entire contract and us letting him walk after.

Gutless Drunk
01-09-2016, 07:45 AM
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LikeABoss5820
01-09-2016, 07:52 AM
No.

Seeing lots of teams struggle with CB play, and Talib has been more than fine. Giving up some plays here or there.

But there's plenty of players they could get before Talib to save money.

Ware, Clady, Manning, Colquitt, Vazquez would all be cut before Talib imo or should.

Denver's scheme under Wade makes the CB's very valuable so no.

LikeABoss5820
01-09-2016, 07:56 AM
I stay away from Manning/Osweiler threads. Has the board obsessed over the scenario of Manning winning Superbowl MVP and then getting cut?

If that happened, i'd hope he would just retire.