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24champ
02-19-2014, 02:02 PM
http://deadspin.com/heres-ray-rice-dragging-his-unconscious-fiancee-out-of-1525926834?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Video shows rice'a girlfriend unconsious.

broncosteven
02-19-2014, 02:14 PM
Over rated bum is a bum

schaaf
02-19-2014, 02:25 PM
Read a comment this morning that said that was his longest carry of the year haha

SouthStndJunkie
02-19-2014, 02:39 PM
"Hey dumbass, next time take the stairs!" - Lawrence Phillips

crush17
02-19-2014, 02:42 PM
Read a comment this morning that said that was his longest carry of the year haha

So wrong, but so funny

Rohirrim
02-19-2014, 02:43 PM
Another normal day in the average Ratbird's life.

Kaylore
02-19-2014, 02:46 PM
LOL @ the comments "Somewhere Darren Sharper got an erection."

IndelibleScribe
02-19-2014, 03:24 PM
Damn, he and Suggs really are two peas in a pod.

DENVERDUI55
02-19-2014, 04:23 PM
The question is did he knock her out, drug her or was she so drunk she passed out?

Gutless Drunk
02-19-2014, 04:31 PM
"the court summons obtained by CBS affiliate WJZ-TV in Baltimore doesn't paint a great picture for Rice, who has been charged with simple assault-domestic violence stemming from an incident that took place in Atlantic City, N.J., in the early morning of Feb. 15.

According to the court summons from the incident, Rice was hit with the simple assault-domestic violence charge because he allegedly hit his fiancee with his hand and knocked her unconscious. You can see the entire summons below"

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24448748/court-summons-ray-rice-accused-of-knocking-fiancee-unconscious

razorwire77
02-19-2014, 04:38 PM
Not too shabby "Minor physical altercation."

Drunken.Broncoholic2
02-19-2014, 04:52 PM
As long as he didn't hang out with Kerry's assistant I'm sure he'll scoot through.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
02-19-2014, 04:53 PM
The question is did he knock her out, drug her or was she so drunk she passed out?

Not sure how you can get hammered drunk on a short elevator ride. She walked into the elevator without problem or stagger.

TonyR
02-19-2014, 04:57 PM
Now one could reasonably see Knowshon join Doom in Baltimore next season.

Bigdawg26
02-19-2014, 04:59 PM
LOL @ the comments "Somewhere Darren Sharper got an erection."

LOL! That's wrong!

Bigdawg26
02-19-2014, 05:02 PM
Somebody wrote Tyler Perry remake of weekend at Bernie's called Tyler Perry presents weekend at the Bernice's Funny!

schaaf
02-19-2014, 05:11 PM
Dumb bitch probably wouldn't make Ray Ray a sandwich

UberBroncoMan
02-19-2014, 05:14 PM
Now one could reasonably see Knowshon join Doom in Baltimore next season.

They do love stealing our players.

Beantown Bronco
02-19-2014, 05:19 PM
"I would've at least stuffed her in a duffel bag."

tatum bell

theAPAOps5
02-19-2014, 05:20 PM
LOL @ the comments "Somewhere Darren Sharper got an erection."

I like this one:

"I got next"

-Darren Sharper (allegedly)

oubronco
02-19-2014, 05:24 PM
Another normal day in the average Ratbird's life.

Not to Shabby statement

BroncosfanGuy
02-19-2014, 05:26 PM
that's sad.

IndelibleScribe
02-19-2014, 06:01 PM
The question is did he knock her out, drug her or was she so drunk she passed out?

To pass out that bad she would need to be close to alcohol poisoning.
He knocked her out. She was limp.

M-G
02-19-2014, 06:15 PM
Hey diddle diddle, Ray Rice in a pickle.

IndelibleScribe
02-19-2014, 06:31 PM
Hey diddle diddle, Ray Rice in a pickle.

Watch the Ravens fans blame the girlfriend. :rofl:

razorwire77
02-19-2014, 06:34 PM
"Probably should have paid his friend to punch her in the face"

-Ray Lewis

Vegas_Bronco
02-19-2014, 06:48 PM
"Oh yeah....now we talking"
1-800-947-AUTO

http://wtfaith.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/caveman.jpg

B-Large
02-19-2014, 07:20 PM
Good thing Doom went there for the QB, not the Running Back

theAPAOps5
02-19-2014, 08:09 PM
To pass out that bad she would need to be close to alcohol poisoning.
He knocked her out. She was limp.

So was he, that's what started the whole mess

IndelibleScribe
02-19-2014, 08:59 PM
So was he, that's what started the whole mess

I think it was more the "devil's lube" that started it.

broncocalijohn
02-19-2014, 09:43 PM
Not sure how you can get hammered drunk on a short elevator ride. She walked into the elevator without problem or stagger.

Soft chin and body. Would not draft her.

Garcia Bronco
02-19-2014, 11:16 PM
I like this comment:

"I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe this. Even with both video and photo evidence, I can't bring myself to acknowledge that there is a TMZ Sports. Yesterday 2:24pm"

Garcia Bronco
02-19-2014, 11:18 PM
and this one:


"shocker_in_gloomtownUTom Ley111L
the obstruction skills are where Ray Lewis's influence on the team is really missed the most. Yesterday 12:15pm"

Willynowei
02-20-2014, 01:07 AM
Unless she's got a mark from the hit, instinct tells me she threatened something a long the lines of "if you don't do X, I'm gonna pretend to pass out and say you hit me" and followed through with her threats.

Soon enough they'll have medical evidence as to whether or not she was struck.

DENVERDUI55
02-20-2014, 06:16 AM
I wonder where the video of them walking into the elevator shows or the events in the casino on the way to the elevator show?

oubronco
02-20-2014, 06:52 AM
"Bitch step outta line i'mma smack a ho"

Ray Rice

Dr. Broncenstein
02-20-2014, 06:58 AM
The trick to beating your woman is to make sure she remains able to walk, yet aware of the point you are trying to make.

txtebow
02-20-2014, 07:23 AM
Now one could reasonably see Knowshon join Doom in Baltimore next season.

Ben Tate in Baltimore...book it.

Beantown Bronco
02-20-2014, 08:04 AM
.look at A Herendez from the Pats he only got charged with the murder when the prosecutors were forced to cause the others involved after the fact were not gonna take the fall ...and they say they are not sure that they have enough to convict him... he will walk and be back in the NFL...

they've got him cold on gun charges that alone carry mandatory sentences. Zero chance he plays again regardless of murder charges.

Dr. Broncenstein
02-20-2014, 08:05 AM
Ray Lewis was involved in a double homicide which included destruction of evidence (his clothing, in particular) and an obstruction of justice conviction. He then went on to a hall of fame football career and a lucrative post-football broadcasting career. So I highly doubt that Ray Rice is sweating it. Now, if he was caught smoking weed on the other hand...

Beantown Bronco
02-20-2014, 09:08 AM
I hope you are right about Herendez but I don't trust it and if hes not found guilty then he will be back..he could play ball and that's all the NFL CARES ABOUT....

vick only missed two seasons. hernandez is going to miss two seasons before the first of his three cases are even heard. Even if all three cases go his way, he's looking at 3-4 years out of the league, minimum, if the courts start setting landspeed records.

DENVERDUI55
02-20-2014, 09:11 AM
Ray Rice has plenty of people he can lean upon in situations like this. Look no father than T-Thuggs as it wasn't long ago he had similar situation and married the girl shortly after.

Rohirrim
02-20-2014, 09:13 AM
vick only missed two seasons. hernandez is going to miss two seasons before the first of his three cases are even heard. Even if all three cases go his way, he's looking at 3-4 years out of the league, minimum, if the courts start setting landspeed records.

Not to mention he's going to fight and stall all way along.

WolfpackGuy
02-20-2014, 09:15 AM
He's an NFL running back and couldn't lift her!?

Good lord.

Powderaddict
02-20-2014, 09:22 AM
a dog is a littlle person with fur

Dogs: The R2D2s of the animal world.

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9167/mamidgetinabox.jpg

Archer81
02-20-2014, 09:28 AM
missed the point a murder is a murder a dog is a littlle person with fur....and another point NEITHER ONE OF EM should EVER play in the NFL again but because its so money hungry it doesn't really matter what a player does as long as they have the potential to make them that dollar...


A dog is a dog. An animal. I am not saying Vick is a good guy. Cruelty to animals, torturing them and forcing them to fight is one of the lowest things a human being can do to an animal. But a dog is an animal. A person killing a human being is ultimately worse than a person killing or harming a dog.


:Broncos:

Beantown Bronco
02-20-2014, 09:34 AM
He's an NFL running back and couldn't lift her!?

Good lord.

ty law lost a foot race back in the day to an overweight cop in full length boots.

Beantown Bronco
02-20-2014, 09:36 AM
I don't think so... I read not long ago his attornies are ready cause they feel hes going to be found innocent. And I don't know if ya all have seen him lately but he don't look like hes worried about nothing. in fact hes already mentioned a return to the NFL...

read what you just wrote again.

name one defense lawyer and defendant that would EVER state the opposite.

Archer81
02-20-2014, 09:36 AM
how is it any different ... a dog cant fight back and they trust that human that is harming or killing them... they didn't know what they did wrong... so I don't agree completely with that...


...

No matter how horrible the death of a dog is, it is still a dog. It is not a little person with fur. Vick is not the same as Hernandez. A walking ****bag, yes. But he is not a murderer.


:Broncos:

Powderaddict
02-20-2014, 09:44 AM
ty law lost a foot race back in the day to an overweight cop in full length boots.

If I remember correctly, wasn't our very own Travis Henry chased down and tackled by a couple of cops?

broncocalijohn
02-20-2014, 09:54 AM
...

No matter how horrible the death of a dog is, it is still a dog. It is not a little person with fur. Vick is not the same as Hernandez. A walking ****bag, yes. But he is not a murderer.


:Broncos:

Just stop. Chrissy is a simpleton and that is what Ma and Pa told her when she was 4 years old in the Tennessee backwoods. It has stayed with her this whole time...with the creative writing skills too.

crush17
02-20-2014, 10:20 AM
Chrissy, do you eat burgers? Chicken wings? Burritos? McDonalds? Ham sandwiches? Bacon?

You can consider yourself a murderer then. If a dog is no different than a human in your eyes, then a cow or a chicken or a pig is no different from a dog.

Stop being a complete moron.

crush17
02-20-2014, 10:24 AM
Do you think that animals raised for human consumption are treated humanely??

Why do I even continue to read your replies?

Maybe I am the moron. ****.

Powderaddict
02-20-2014, 10:34 AM
Are cats little people too?

crush17
02-20-2014, 10:41 AM
I own 3 dogs (one PIT BULL even) and a cat and love them like children.

I despise dog fighting and everything that surrounds it. I also despise Michael Vick.

Marinate on that for a minute you freaking dumbass.

Powderaddict
02-20-2014, 10:42 AM
Absolutely..

Dang. I guess that makes me a cannibal.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
02-20-2014, 10:44 AM
Absolutely.... little secret animals are more loyal then most humans... its sad that you all would even joke and I would hope that's what it is about Vick murdering those dogs.... as I said before people who die on death row for horrible crimes die more humanely then what he did to those dogs

It's sad that you can't see the difference between a human and an animal. A human can be considered an animal, but an animal can't be compared to a human being. Just not possible.

kappys
02-20-2014, 10:44 AM
you know I don't understand people like you for real I don't... these dogs that Vick killed which equals murdered its the same thing was hung . drowned. and electrocuted . very cruel ways to day.. it didn't happen fast.... it took time ....and it makes me sick to think that people sya its okay because its just dogs..... now you want to compare this to way that animals are killed for humane consumption...do know how its done...how quick its done... theres Americans right now as we speak over there in Russia rescueing as many of those dogs as they can....but that's something you don't have the heart to appreciate....

You're right, stock animals are slaughtered humanely by being herded in large groups into death factories, like Auschwitz...

Rabb
02-20-2014, 10:51 AM
Please stop quoting the 2014 OM retard front runner. Thank you.

-my ignore list

Drunken.Broncoholic2
02-20-2014, 11:16 AM
your right animals are more loyal then human beings.... and that's what is wrong with this world....but the funny thing is human beings are the ones who treat each other worse then any animal treats there own...again the world is proof positive of that....and reguardless of all of you Vick supporters I think he is worse then scum and deserves any and all bad coming his way...call me all the names you wish for it I care not ....I live here in Va right where your boy Vick is from and hes not so much of a hometown boy no more...

Vicks not my boy. I don't think anyone disagrees with you on the loyalty of a dog or how bad a human can act. Just pointing out that an animal is not considered a human. Human beings have something that no other animal has: an ability to participate in a collective cognition. Because we, as individuals, are able to draw on the collective knowledge of humanity, in a way no animal can, our individual abilities go way beyond what evolution has endowed us with. Our species is no longer constrained by our biology.

Rohirrim
02-20-2014, 11:27 AM
I don't think so... I read not long ago his attornies are ready cause they feel hes going to be found innocent. And I don't know if ya all have seen him lately but he don't look like hes worried about nothing. in fact hes already mentioned a return to the NFL...

It must be nice to live in a dream world.

Hernandez is going to die in prison.

broncocalijohn
02-20-2014, 11:34 AM
I own 3 dogs (one PIT BULL even) and a cat and love them like children.

I despise dog fighting and everything that surrounds it. I also despise Michael Vick.

Marinate on that for a minute you freaking dumbass.

I am not sure if I would marinate a pitbull or a cat. I would think just putting them on the grill with a little BBQ sauce after they are cooked would taste just the same without the wasted time.

crush17
02-20-2014, 11:37 AM
I am not sure if I would marinate a pitbull or a cat. I would think just putting them on the grill with a little BBQ sauce after they are cooked would taste just the same without the wasted time.

You mean to tell me I've been doing it wrong this whole time??

Miss I.
02-20-2014, 11:45 AM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/3/tumblr_mdki9gRTtt1r9g4gho1_400.jpg (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=5885)

crush17
02-20-2014, 11:49 AM
Chrissy Rules

Likes: Animals, arguing, football

Dislikes: OJ Simpson, Michael Vick, reading comprehension, English, budgets

broncocalijohn
02-20-2014, 11:55 AM
Chrissy Rules

Likes: Animals aka small people with fur, arguing, football with Manning involved

Dislikes: OJ Simpson, Michael Vick, reading comprehension, English, budgets

FYP

Her constant posting has improved her english skills to a 3rd grade level which in turn makes them more readable and now I see where her opinion fails and now a long debate follows. Now we see it was better when we had no idea what she was typing and therefore the conversation was always minimized.

broncocalijohn
02-20-2014, 12:08 PM
you eat Chinese then you probably ate cat...and you thought it was chicken

nope. I order cat all the time and you know what kind they serve?

Siamese of course!

Actually, I love cats. I have one I take with me everywhere I go.

broncocalijohn
02-20-2014, 12:12 PM
Here is my advertising of some free cats looking for a nice home.

Miss I.
02-20-2014, 12:16 PM
what I will say is this on the actual thread topic and some of the random asides:
1. Ray Rice is a dirtbag and if he was someone not famous and rich he'd be in jail already. However, given the scope of what players (Ray Lewis being the obvious one) get away with, this will be a minor blip on the radar. This will be less news than when a gay guy gets drafted because societal values are a bit screwed up. Oh noes, a gay guy..but it's okay to beat the **** out of women. Nothing shocks me about this with regards to the NFL.
2. Hernandez will do jail time. In a post OJ world there is actually less tolerance for a celebrity mess up of this magnitude. Hell even OJ is in jail now. Plus Hernandez was so incredibly dumb about it, it would be difficult not to convict him of something and even IF he doesn't (BIG IF) by the time this trial and all that is done he will not be welcomed back to the NFL.
3. Michael Vick is a ****ing piece of crap. There is something fundamentally broken in that guy and I don't believe his remorse. HOWEVER, people and dogs are not equivalent in General. Now if you gave me a choice between saving Vick or a dog, I'd choose the dog, but that's Vick, not normal people. OJ murdering his wife and her friend is much worse than what Vick did PERIOD. And Vick actually did jail time for it for what that's worth. Another reason I think Hernandez won't skate. Vick didn't. IT just wasn't enough punishment according to you, but under the law technically it was.

Anyway, my 2 cents or 10. I do tend to ramble.

NUB
02-20-2014, 12:29 PM
If she was actually struck by Rice, where are the photos of her busted up face? Not taking sides on the issue, I just thought that was particular. There's usually a "look what this person has done!" element to these stories. I'd imagine getting shoryukened by a tiny but musclebound football player would mess up your facial complexion something fierce.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
02-20-2014, 12:34 PM
If she was actually struck by Rice, where are the photos of her busted up face? Not taking sides on the issue, I just thought that was particular. There's usually a "look what this person has done!" element to these stories. I'd imagine getting shoryukened by a tiny but musclebound football player would mess up your facial complexion something fierce.

I can knock a fool out by hitting the back of their head. No black eye needed.

What's interesting is a place that has cameras outside an elevator usually has cameras inside it too.

Miss I.
02-20-2014, 12:34 PM
its already came across ESPN that they both dropped the chargers...

They dropped the Chargers? Damn, when did that happen. Now we dropped the Chargers..yeah we did. ;D

broncocalijohn
02-20-2014, 12:47 PM
but in order to do bring chargers a person has to file and carry threw... they both dropped the chargers so there is no case

Chrissy back to the bottle.

Archer81
02-20-2014, 05:07 PM
that's a fine line... let me ask you this ... if a person breaks into your house or threatens to kill you and you kill them in self defense are you still not a murder...careful how you answer that its still a person... if you say no then you are acknowledgeing that people make their own decisions ....with that what decision did those dogs have and who is he to take their life by hanging them drowning them and elecuteing them....


Yes, I would be a murderer. I KILLED another human being. In the scenario you painted, its a justified killing. My family matters more to me than a stranger. But I still end a human life.

A dog can not, will not, nor ever be EQUAL to a human being. No matter what half cocked scenario you throw out there. A dog is not capable of making a decision. They do not have a thought process, they never select who owns them or how they are treated. Vick is an assbag because he tortured and killed a lower form of life that is incapable of understanding or opposing anything done to them. Even then, Vick is not the same level of horrible human being as OJ Simpson or Aaron Hernandez.

:Broncos:

Drunken.Broncoholic2
02-20-2014, 05:21 PM
but in order to do bring chargers a person has to file and carry threw... they both dropped the chargers so there is no case

That depends on where you are. There's plenty of states where the DA files charges in spite of either side not wanting to

Old Dude
02-20-2014, 06:13 PM
you know that says a lot about you to think that murdering a dog is okay...if anybody needs to stop its you ...and I hope no dog or animal would have to deal with the likes of you...

Just curious. If they eat dogs in Asia, would that make them cannibals?

KipCorrington25
02-20-2014, 06:14 PM
That depends on where you are. There's plenty of states where the DA files charges in spite of either side not wanting to

Yep, because quite often the women back out of their accustions once the dust settles, the woman not pressing charges won't stop further action if the evidence warrants it.

Old Dude
02-20-2014, 06:23 PM
... if the evidence warrants it.

You mean like a video of the victim falling senselessly to the floor after being beaten up in an elevator?

Gutless Drunk
02-20-2014, 08:12 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source says police have yet-to-be-released video of Ray Rice knocking fiancée unconscious before dragging her. Expect a suspension.</p>&mdash; Robert Klemko (@RobertKlemko) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobertKlemko/statuses/436692985594781696">February 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
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24champ
02-20-2014, 08:14 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source says police have yet-to-be-released video of Ray Rice knocking fiancée unconscious before dragging her. Expect a suspension.</p>&mdash; Robert Klemko (@RobertKlemko) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobertKlemko/statuses/436692985594781696">February 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Should we expect jail time?

BroncosfanGuy
02-20-2014, 08:18 PM
Should we expect jail time?

Ray Rice has $$$$ and probably doesn't have a prior so I'd guess not.
If he does have a prior he still has $$$$ so probably still not.

IndelibleScribe
02-20-2014, 08:58 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source says police have yet-to-be-released video of Ray Rice knocking fiancée unconscious before dragging her. Expect a suspension.</p>&mdash; Robert Klemko (@RobertKlemko) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobertKlemko/statuses/436692985594781696">February 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Goodell is gonna love this after all the **** Suggs talked after the SB win.

DENVERDUI55
02-20-2014, 09:04 PM
Are cats little people too?

They are aliens in disguise.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
02-20-2014, 09:55 PM
Should we expect jail time?

Domestic violence classes and maybe community service.

Rabb
02-21-2014, 07:17 AM
Domestic violence classes and maybe community service.

Murica

crush17
02-21-2014, 08:04 AM
What a POS.

Old Dude
02-21-2014, 12:42 PM
Should we expect jail time?

Not unless he broke something.

24champ
03-28-2014, 12:40 AM
Rice initially faced a charge of simple assault for allegedly hitting fiancée Janay Palmer at the Revel Casino on Feb. 15. A video showed Rice dragging Palmer out of an elevator. However, prosecutors filed the more serious charge with the grand jury, which — if convicted — could carry a prison sentence of three to five years in prison, according to the Baltimore Sun.

According to a press release from the prosecutors, Rice was "attempting to cause significant bodily injury, and/or purposely or knowing causing such injury, and/or recklessly causing such injury under extreme indifference to the value of human life."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/ravens--ray-rice-indicted-on-aggravated-assault-charge-211147092.html

cutthemdown
03-28-2014, 12:44 AM
If with the backhand the bitch was hit? Then you must acquit!

400HZ
03-28-2014, 07:35 AM
Unconscious = serious bodily injury = felony aggravated assault. The girlfriend likely won't cooperate, but if they have video Ray will almost certainly do some time.

Dr. Broncenstein
03-28-2014, 08:55 AM
Unconscious = serious bodily injury = felony aggravated assault. The girlfriend likely won't cooperate, but if they have video Ray will almost certainly do some time.
Hahahahahahahaha

Dr. Broncenstein
03-28-2014, 08:59 AM
Come on guys. It's not like he was caught dealing marijuana or anything like that. He's a violent criminal with a deep pocket. At most a plea deal to probation. Even that is unlikely.

oubronco
03-28-2014, 09:14 AM
Just keeping his pimp hand strong

91BRONCO
03-28-2014, 09:22 AM
but in order to do bring chargers a person has to file and carry threw... they both dropped the chargers so there is no case

Not exactly true. The prosecution can still choose to move forward if they feel the evidence is strong enough. It happens all the time.

Kaylore
03-28-2014, 09:58 AM
Not unless he broke something.

You mean other than law?

400HZ
03-28-2014, 10:54 AM
Come on guys. It's not like he was caught dealing marijuana or anything like that. He's a violent criminal with a deep pocket. At most a plea deal to probation. Even that is unlikely.

In Ray Ray's case there were evidentiary issues and he agreed to squeal on his co-conspirators. If there is video of Rice knocking his girlfriend out, which has been reported, then he doesn't have the leverage to negotiate a real sweetheart deal. He will probably plead to a reduced charge and then either sit a few days or do a boatload of community service.

24champ
03-28-2014, 10:57 AM
In Ray Ray's case there were evidentiary issues and he agreed to squeal on his co-conspirators. If there is video of Rice knocking his girlfriend out, which has been reported, then he doesn't have the leverage to negotiate a real sweetheart deal. He will probably plead to a reduced charge and then either sit a few days or do a boatload of community service.

Then you wonder how many games Goodell will suspend him for.

Enter The Dragon
03-28-2014, 04:17 PM
They were probably fighting because she was pissed off for taking Ray too high in fantasy football.

IndelibleScribe
03-29-2014, 09:55 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>RB Ray Rice got married Friday night to Janay Palmer. Ceremony had been planned for couple of weeks. Got indicted Thursday, married Friday.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/statuses/449933961301487616">March 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This is just sad. Legally it is brilliant, but sad.

theAPAOps5
03-29-2014, 10:15 AM
Not unless he broke something.

Apparently her face.

Dr. Broncenstein
03-29-2014, 11:15 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>RB Ray Rice got married Friday night to Janay Palmer. Ceremony had been planned for couple of weeks. Got indicted Thursday, married Friday.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/statuses/449933961301487616">March 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This is just sad. Legally it is brilliant, but sad.

Spouse cannot be compelled to testify against the other?

Gutless Drunk
03-29-2014, 11:18 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Just because every other tweet I see says the Ray Rice marriage was so she cant testify - a Jersey def atty told us that's not a thing in NJ</p>&mdash; Justin Fenton (@justin_fenton) <a href="https://twitter.com/justin_fenton/statuses/449943644729249792">March 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Testimony or a lack of it from Ray Rice's new wife won't matter at his trial, if (as reported) casino video exists of the alleged assault.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/statuses/449954707876761601">March 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Dr. Broncenstein
03-29-2014, 11:20 AM
Anyone want to make a wager on weather or not the future Mrs Ray Rice grew up with a responsible father? Or Ray Rice for that matter?

DBruleU
03-29-2014, 12:18 PM
Anyone want to make a wager on weather or not the future Mrs Ray Rice grew up with a responsible father? Or Ray Rice for that matter?

Time for the obligatory...

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa402/LadyLiberty1885/TheArticles/PicturePool/thats-racist.gif

baja
03-29-2014, 01:29 PM
Anyone want to make a wager on weather or not the future Mrs Ray Rice grew up with a responsible father? Or Ray Rice for that matter?

What's worse? Growing up with an abusive father both physically and mentally or no father in the home.

just curious what your take is.

gyldenlove
03-29-2014, 01:55 PM
What's worse? Growing up with an abusive father both physically and mentally or no father in the home.

just curious what your take is.

Abusive parents by a million miles. I know several people who grew up in single parent households, all of them are in long term committed relationships, have good education and health. I know a few who have grown up in abusive households and that is a whole lot bleaker.

Gutless Drunk
03-29-2014, 01:58 PM
"Bills linebacker Brandon Spikes is speaking out strongly against Ravens running back Ray Rice, who was indicted this week for aggravated assault.

Reacting to the news that Rice has just married the woman he is accused of assaulting, Spikes went off on Rice on Twitter.

“That’s him trying to save his image duh,” Spikes wrote of Rice’s wedding.

Spikes said he got angry when he saw the surveillance video that appears to show Rice dragging his unconscious wife out of an elevator, video that was taken, authorities say, moments after Rice punched her and knocked her out.

“I don’t see how anyone can respect him. Put your hands on a woman. The woman that had ur child,” Spikes wrote. “Someone should choke him out. See how he likes it.”

Spikes also tweeted a picture of himself with his mother and wrote, “I was raised by this beautiful woman. She would roll over and die if i put my hands on a woman.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/29/brandon-spikes-i-dont-see-how-anyone-can-respect-ray-rice/

Flacko
03-29-2014, 02:51 PM
There's a lot of these type of women in younger generations. Why waste your time with an abusive man when there are plenty that'll treat you like a queen. I wouldn't be surprised of both Mr & Mrs Ray Rice come from hostile homes.

SouthStndJunkie
03-29-2014, 06:06 PM
That's the 2nd really dumb life decision Ray Rice has made in the past few months.

Don't think his wife to be will ever forget about getting knocked out and dragged around in a casino.

She's going to knock out his finances and drag them around the first chance she gets.

There is no way she signed a prenuptial agreement after getting cavemanned like that.

CHEF LUIGI
03-30-2014, 02:13 AM
as his wife, she cannot be required to testify against him, even in a grand JURY INVESTIGATION.
iF he is convicted, he goes to jail and loses MILLIONS,
neither spouse wants that.

cutthemdown
03-30-2014, 02:14 AM
The Ravens standing by this guy is a joke. Sucks they got to win another Superbowl. Talk about a team that deserves it the least.

theAPAOps5
03-30-2014, 02:53 AM
as his wife, she cannot be required to testify against him, even in a grand JURY INVESTIGATION.
iF he is convicted, he goes to jail and loses MILLIONS,
neither spouse wants that.

Educate yourself before you speak. That doesn't apply in New Jersey and casino video trumps that.

gunns
03-30-2014, 06:14 AM
There's a lot of these type of women in younger generations. Why waste your time with an abusive man when there are plenty that'll treat you like a queen. I wouldn't be surprised of both Mr & Mrs Ray Rice come from hostile homes.

She probably feels she can "change" him. Or that getting married will "change" things or both. She's in for a world of hurt.

DENVERDUI55
03-30-2014, 08:48 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>RB Ray Rice got married Friday night to Janay Palmer. Ceremony had been planned for couple of weeks. Got indicted Thursday, married Friday.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/statuses/449933961301487616">March 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This is just sad. Legally it is brilliant, but sad.
He took advice from Terrell Suggs. He thumped on his woman then married her shortly after.

Kaylore
03-30-2014, 11:57 AM
She probably feels she can "change" him. Or that getting married will "change" things or both. She's in for a world of hurt.

Yeah I don't know what that's about. There are quite a few women out there who live in that world for whatever reason. I don't know if it is a female fantasy or there's some kind of thrill they get out of the idea of a man changing for them, but for whatever reason, there's quite a few women who not only believe their men will change for them, but look for men who they "can fix" and intentionally date broken men.

I actually think it could also be that both of them believe this type of behavior is normal. Like both came from households where the female in their home was abused by the male and so they unconsciously look for that because it's "normal."

I find it interesting that many children from dysfunctional and abusive homes grow up either to seek out and replicate that environment, or avoid relationships completely believing that's how all relationships have to be.

Hercules Rockefeller
03-30-2014, 12:17 PM
Normally the marital privilege doesn't apply when one spouse is the victim of the allegations.

Dr. Broncenstein
03-30-2014, 12:38 PM
What's worse? Growing up with an abusive father both physically and mentally or no father in the home.

just curious what your take is.

A father does not have to live in the home to be an involved and responsible parent. But a truly absent father vs an abusive father are both terrible situations. The latter is worse.

CHEF LUIGI
03-31-2014, 09:20 AM
Educate yourself before you speak. That doesn't apply in New Jersey and casino video trumps that.
say what?
regardless of the state she resides in or what state the event occurred in, a spouse cannot be FORCED to testify against their spouse.
where were you educated, hostility university?
enjoy a cup of reality, my friend.
NOW that they are married, even a GRAND JURY cannot demand testimony from her if she chooses to decline.

whether or not there is video in the elevator, is moot to the point that SHE can no longer be REQUIRED to testify before a grand jury.
reality... enjoy a cup !

91BRONCO
03-31-2014, 09:26 AM
Normally the marital privilege doesn't apply when one spouse is the victim of the allegations.

Doesn't really matter though. If she chooses to not cooperate with the prosecution and the defense puts her on the stand and she says it was a misunderstanding, etc. etc. it will be a tough sell for any jury to convict (if it even gets that far).

I see plea bargain all over this.....

Kaylore
03-31-2014, 09:42 AM
Doesn't really matter though. If she chooses to not cooperate with the prosecution and the defense puts her on the stand and she says it was a misunderstanding, etc. etc. it will be a tough sell for any jury to convict (if it even gets that far).

I see plea bargain all over this.....

Well over 95% of cases don't go to trial, so the likelihood of this being a plea is high.

Guess Who
03-31-2014, 10:18 AM
What's worse? Growing up with an abusive father both physically and mentally or no father in the home.

just curious what your take is.

Why would you care what he thinks?

baja
03-31-2014, 10:52 AM
Why would you care what he thinks?

Why would you care about what I think about what he thinks?

BroncoBuff
03-31-2014, 10:54 AM
The question is did he knock her out, drug her or was she so drunk she passed out?

Exactly.

91BRONCO
03-31-2014, 10:57 AM
Well over 95% of cases don't go to trial, so the likelihood of this being a plea is high.

I hear ya. Plus when the victim recants it's very hard to convict regardless of the evidence and the prosecution knows that.

BroncoBuff
03-31-2014, 11:09 AM
Wait ... they're alleging he knocked her unconscious, dragged her out of the room and left her on the hallway floor out cold? Well, it's obvious why the team is sticking by him ... she's still alive after all.

Just read where he married that b-b-eautiful fiance of his three days ago. He didn't have to do that ... sounds like the prosecutor's satisfied he has what he needs even without her testimony though.



New law in these United States as of about 2007 ... in DV situations, prosecutors can now use the 'excited utterance' exception to the hearsay rule to permit cops to testify to what the vic said at the scene when vic is unavailable (hiding/recanting after reconciling) to testify ... all without violating defendants rights to confront and cross. For some of you, that's important information. You know who you are :pimp:

Hercules Rockefeller
03-31-2014, 11:35 AM
Doesn't really matter though. If she chooses to not cooperate with the prosecution and the defense puts her on the stand and she says it was a misunderstanding, etc. etc. it will be a tough sell for any jury to convict (if it even gets that far).

I see plea bargain all over this.....

Yes, because claiming it was a misunderstanding is really corroborated with the video of her getting drug out of an elevator unconscious. It will also depend on what she told the police that night, if she gave a statement. If she tries to change her account, they'll impeach her with her prior statements.

BroncoBuff
03-31-2014, 11:43 AM
New law in these United States as of about 2007 ... in DV situations, prosecutors can now use the 'excited utterance' exception to the hearsay rule to permit cops to testify to what the vic said at the scene when vic is unavailable (hiding/recanting after reconciling) to testify ... all without violating defendants rights to confront and cross. For some of you, that's important information. You know who you are :pimp:

Quoting myself to clarify: Not law in ALL these United States yet ... I was thinking it was a SCOTUS ruling, but actually it was a Washington State Supreme Court ruling. Since then, it says about 30 state legislatures have or are in the process of codifying the same exception.

If Maryland or whatever state they were in that night does not have this, it'll be like Herc says, she'll try to evade it, explain it away: "(Flashing enormous rock on left hand) I was so tired that night! I took two Ambien! He didn't hit me, he reached out to brace my fall, I was SO TIRED I was falling down!"

91BRONCO
03-31-2014, 11:49 AM
Yes, because claiming it was a misunderstanding is really corroborated with the video of her getting drug out of an elevator unconscious. It will also depend on what she told the police that night, if she gave a statement. If she tries to change her account, they'll impeach her with her prior statements.

I'm just saying- it's a very tough sell to the jury if you have the "victim" on the stand pleading for no punishment or prosecution. It raises other ethical and privacy issues regardless of the evidence. It's one of the reasons these types of cases plea or get outright dropped.

400HZ
03-31-2014, 12:01 PM
Wait ... they're alleging he knocked her unconscious, dragged her out of the room and left her on the hallway floor out cold? Well, it's obvious why the team is sticking by him ... she's still alive after all.

Just read where he married that b-b-eautiful fiance of his three days ago. He didn't have to do that ... sounds like the prosecutor's satisfied he has what he needs even without her testimony though.



New law in these United States as of about 2007 ... in DV situations, prosecutors can now use the 'excited utterance' exception to the hearsay rule to permit cops to testify to what the vic said at the scene when vic is unavailable (hiding/recanting after reconciling) to testify ... all without violating defendants rights to confront and cross. For some of you, that's important information. You know who you are :pimp:

Only if it's non-testimonial. That covers very few DV cases.

400HZ
03-31-2014, 12:05 PM
I'm just saying- it's a very tough sell to the jury if you have the "victim" on the stand pleading for no punishment or prosecution. It raises other ethical and privacy issues regardless of the evidence. It's one of the reasons these types of cases plea or get outright dropped.

It's not tough at all if there is video. The prosecution would likely call a domestic violence expert to explain how and why around 95% of victims recant. A victim trying to explain away an obvious assault plays right into the narrative of a long-term, abusive relationship.

Hercules Rockefeller
03-31-2014, 01:09 PM
New law in these United States as of about 2007 ... in DV situations, prosecutors can now use the 'excited utterance' exception to the hearsay rule to permit cops to testify to what the vic said at the scene when vic is unavailable (hiding/recanting after reconciling) to testify ... all without violating defendants rights to confront and cross. For some of you, that's important information. You know who you are :pimp:

That's what they did before Crawford. No victim, get a cop to lay the foundation for an excited utterance and then just have them repeat what the victim told them. Like 400HZ said, they can only do that for non-testimonial statements now.

Hercules Rockefeller
03-31-2014, 01:11 PM
I'm just saying- it's a very tough sell to the jury if you have the "victim" on the stand pleading for no punishment or prosecution. It raises other ethical and privacy issues regardless of the evidence. It's one of the reasons these types of cases plea or get outright dropped.

It's not at tough sell if you've got a good DA, and a lot of times they can be easier than a cooperative victim.