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txtebow
02-03-2014, 02:31 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000316435/article/2014-nfl-free-agents-by-team


RESIGN DRC.......CUT WELKER.

Position PRIORITY:

1) MLB
2) SS
3) FS
4) DE
5) C & RT

Players I'd like to Target

1) MLB Karlos Dansby
1b) Safety Jairus Byrd


2) WR Jacoby Jones (bye Decker and Holliday)

3) DE Arthur Jones (BAL)

4) DT Henry Melton (CHI)

5) Pat Angerer, LB (IND)

6) Julian Edelman, WR (NE)

7) Malcolm Jenkins, S (NO)

8) Ziggy Hood, DT (PIT)

9) Donte Whitner, S (SF)


10) Jonathan Goodwin, C (SF)

11) Breno Giacomini, RT (SEA)

Here's our list of FA's:


Denver Broncos


Knowshon Moreno, RB
Andre Caldwell, WR
Eric Decker, WR
Winston Justice, OL
Zane Beadles, OL
Dan Koppen, OL

Steve Vallos, OL
Robert Ayers, DE
Jeremy Mincey, DE
Shaun Phillips, LB
Stewart Bradley, LB
Paris Lenon, LB
Wesley Woodyard, LB
Quentin Jammer, CB
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB
Mike Adams, S
Michael Huff, S

RADRHATR
02-03-2014, 02:35 PM
Re-Sign DRC ? Please tell me what good he does? He is a cover corner but other than that, he runs from contact and thinks this is a flag-football league. Didn't you learn from the Super Bowl that the way to go is physical????

enjolras
02-03-2014, 02:44 PM
I really don't think this is hyperbole. Jairus Byrd might be the only piece we need to win a superbowl next year.

Rabb
02-03-2014, 02:45 PM
Re-Sign DRC ? Please tell me what good he does? He is a cover corner but other than that, he runs from contact and thinks this is a flag-football league. Didn't you learn from the Super Bowl that the way to go is physical????

:rofl:

TonyR
02-03-2014, 03:07 PM
Re-Sign DRC ?

I like DRC but wouldn't pay him huge $$$. I won't be surprised if he's not a Bronco next year. But, that said, if he goes he needs to be replaced with Harris coming off an injury, Champ apparently done or close to it, and everyone else a question mark.

jebures
02-03-2014, 03:25 PM
Decker can go, he was invisible last night. Holliday should be cut, not worth the risk or the roster spot for a guy we are scared to have catch punts. Let Mike Adams and Robert Ayers, Woodyard (yes him, couldn't play all 3 downs, already have trevathan) go. Keep DRC, move champ to FS, let Rahim the Dream play SS. I would actually keep Caldwell, he will be cheap and was productive when given a chance.

Dexter
02-03-2014, 03:25 PM
Decker can go, he was invisible last night. Holliday should be cut, not worth the risk or the roster spot for a guy we are scared to have catch punts. Let Mike Adams and Robert Ayers, Woodyard (yes him, couldn't play all 3 downs, already have trevathan) go. Keep DRC, move champ to FS, let Rahim the Dream play SS. I would actually keep Caldwell, he will be cheap and was productive when given a chance.

This

Hercules Rockefeller
02-03-2014, 03:30 PM
There is 0 reason to cut Holliday before training camp, he makes peanuts.

Finger Roll
02-03-2014, 03:43 PM
Cut Welker? Pretty dumb

RADRHATR
02-03-2014, 03:46 PM
I really don't think this is hyperbole. Jairus Byrd might be the only piece we need to win a superbowl next year.

Agree, Byrd and draft some young, physical linebacker(s), SS/FS . I honestly don't think too many of our FA's will leave for more money unless it's substantial. The Broncos have been the AFC's #1 seed for 2 years running now.

KipCorrington25
02-03-2014, 04:21 PM
I'd want DRC back, he had a good year... not sure the price on him though.

The rest are JAG's.

Abqbronco
02-03-2014, 04:24 PM
Re-Sign DRC ? Please tell me what good he does? He is a cover corner but other than that, he runs from contact and thinks this is a flag-football league. Didn't you learn from the Super Bowl that the way to go is physical????

Hahaha!!!

OBF1
02-03-2014, 05:01 PM
I really don't think this is hyperbole. Jairus Byrd might be the only piece we need to win a superbowl next year.

LMAO this is funny, But I know you are kidding. No way Byrd makes up the 35 points we lost by.

bpc
02-03-2014, 05:29 PM
I want Michael Johnson and TJ Ward. Resign DRC. I'll take my chances with Von at Sam, Irvin at MLB, & Trevathan at WLB. Pair Ward up with Moore if he's healthy. Moore plays FS, Ward is the SS. Let DRC play on one side, Webster/Harris on the other side. Front line would be a lot more athletic than it has been. DT position will be deep with Knighton, Vickerson, Sly, Unrein. DE will have players too with Johnson, Malik Jackson, Mincey, Wolfe and i'd bring back Phillips to a 2 yr contract.

Not what I do on offense outside of gear this line up to play the run better next year. I kick Franklin down inside. My long complaint was that he's not a true pass blocker, sure enough, he turned into a pumpkin last night. Put his power inside and move mountains with it. Put Clark at RT. He'd be much better there and then if he gets abused, at least Manning can see it coming. No money for Moreno/Decker. Knowshon is and always will be a finesse HB. Start developing Ball and some power running concepts that will prepare this team for any type of game. DT takes the lead role on offense, bring back Bubba Caldwell for cheap, play Welker in the slot, keep developing Julius. Passing game needs to focus around DT/Julius/Welker next year.

Al Wilson
02-03-2014, 06:19 PM
Release Welker? What are you on crack? I don't mind if they let go of Decker...however, someone opposite of DT that can stretch the field with speed to burn is needed. Someone like a Mike Wallace type.

extralife
02-03-2014, 06:20 PM
Release Welker? What are you on crack? I don't mind if they let go of Decker...however, someone opposite of DT that can stretch the field with speed to burn is needed. Someone like a Mike Wallace type.

you mean the same mike wallace who got 11 million a year to do nothing for Miami?

Manning doesn't work with one dimensional receivers, and he doesn't have the arm to justify paying a 9-or-nothing guy even if he did.

enjolras
02-03-2014, 06:23 PM
LMAO this is funny, But I know you are kidding. No way Byrd makes up the 35 points we lost by.

We're not going to turn the ball over 5 times every time we play in the super bowl.

txtebow
02-03-2014, 06:31 PM
Release Welker? What are you on crack? I don't mind if they let go of Decker...however, someone opposite of DT that can stretch the field with speed to burn is needed. Someone like a Mike Wallace type.

Jacoby jones= deep speed and special teams returner. I'd rather pay Edelman $6 million next year ( and beyond) than welker $8 million

Boot7829
02-03-2014, 06:33 PM
I really don't think you can win through free agency. We just have to start nailing these drafts

txtebow
02-03-2014, 07:10 PM
We need a physical presence at SS and Mlb. Whitner and Dansby would do that. Edelman could replace Welker and if we could get a ballhawk like Byrd to pair with Whitner I'd love it.

BMORE
02-03-2014, 07:16 PM
Most of those players are going to get paid. We need to be looking at 2nd tier players in free agency. We gave plenty of our own to resign.

We all agree we need to get more physical. If we want a physical FS we can look to Malcolm Jenkins, a physical SS how about a veteran leader like Bernard Pollard.

MLB is another area we can address with at the very least quality depth. Again think 2nd tier and I myself like Pat Angerer.

txtebow
02-03-2014, 07:18 PM
I really don't think you can win through free agency. We just have to start nailing these drafts

We have 1 season left with Peyton. It's all in... That means players who contribute immediately.

txtebow
02-03-2014, 07:19 PM
Most of those players are going to get paid. We need to be looking at 2nd tier players in free agency. We gave plenty of our own to resign.

We all agree we need to get more physical. If we want a physical FS we can look to Malcolm Jenkins, a physical SS how about a veteran leader like Bernard Pollard.

MLB is another area we can address with at the very least quality depth. Again think 2nd tier and I myself like Pat Angerer.

Champ is on the books for $10mil and welker $8mil next season. That's enough for at least 2 top tier defenders.

TonyR
02-03-2014, 07:21 PM
I really don't think you can win through free agency. We just have to start nailing these drafts

I agree with you. In the longer run you have to build through the draft. A lot of Seattle's stud D players are later round picks, for example. Need to hit on more picks than you miss and supplement with FA. Easier said than done, unfortunately.

BMORE
02-03-2014, 07:25 PM
Champ is on the books for $10mil and welker $8mil next season. That's enough for at least 2 top tier defenders.

It doesn't work like that. You cut Bailey it's $1 million in dead money, you cut Welker there's another $5 million. So that $18 million cap number you think you have is actually $13.

Then there are our own players to sign.

We will be able to add second tier players. But you build a team through the draft my friend.

txtebow
02-03-2014, 07:26 PM
http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/03/denver-broncos-offseason-outlook-2014/?sct=obnetwork

Kuper will be $4.1 off the books as well.

Broncos_OTM
02-03-2014, 07:30 PM
I'm to damn depressed to talk about one of my favorite aspects as a fan to discuss.

Powderaddict
02-03-2014, 07:39 PM
LMAO this is funny, But I know you are kidding. No way Byrd makes up the 35 points we lost by.

No, but Byrd, Vickerson, Moore, Wolfe, Harris and Clady might.

That said, I think the price tag for Byrd will be too high.

Lestat
02-03-2014, 07:44 PM
I don't think the Broncos will go heavily into FA. I can definitely see Decker being allowed to leave, but I think he comes back and we draft a WR in the middle rounds to be a returner as well.

MLB and S need to be addressed early in the draft. We cannot wait until round 4 or 5 and hope for a Trevathan type bargain.
Rahim coming back helps, Duke being in his 3rd season coming up will as well.
But we need a star S and a star MLB.

Requiem
02-03-2014, 07:53 PM
Tender Chris Harris since he is a RFA. No long-term deal after ACL tear. Champ restructures to no more than 3.5 million or he is gone. Only give Cromartie a deal if he can commit or shows serious interest in playing at the end year evals. I like him a lot, I just don't know if you can risk the big payday on him. We need a top flight prospect long-term at the position and the cost-benefit ratio in the long is better if we draft a replacement. Go for a game changing S in FA (Byrd) and draft another DB. Justin Gilmore at CB. I like Lamarcus Joyner as a versatile DB.

Jammer and Carter can say goodbye too.

Boot7829
02-03-2014, 08:02 PM
It really is all about the draft. The Seahawks with absolutely suck when they have to pay Russell Wilson, Sherman Thomas, chancellor, etc.

txtebow
02-04-2014, 05:34 AM
It doesn't work like that. You cut Bailey it's $1 million in dead money, you cut Welker there's another $5 million. So that $18 million cap number you think you have is actually $13.

Then there are our own players to sign.

We will be able to add second tier players. But you build a team through the draft my friend.


CURRENT CAP SPACE $12.3 million (about $9.5 million in dead money coming off)

apparently Welker's Cap hit would be $2 million for releasing him.


Welker when he signed on got a 4 million bonus which is pro-rated over the two years. That's his.In 2013 his contract was 2 million base, a 2 million pro-rated bonus, and a 150k other bonus with a dead money hit of 6 million.
in 2014 his contract is 3 million base, 2 million pro-rated bonus, and a 3 million roster bonus.if they cut Welker, the broncos will have a dead money hit of 2 million which is half of the 4 million pro-rated bonus that they already paid him.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1916617-breaking-down-the-denver-broncos-2014-salary-cap-where-is-the-money-best-spent?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming


"Chris Kuper is another player who is likely to be cut. Kuper is due $5.9 million in 2014, and only $1.8 million will count as dead money. That is a saving for the Broncos of $4.1 million.

Veteran tight ends Jacob Tamme and Joel Dreessen are both possible candidates for getting cut, or at the very least contract restructuring. If both are cut, the Broncos would save about $5.5 million between the two.

If only these four players are cut, the Broncos would have $19.5 million in extra cash, bringing their total space to somewhere around $32.3 million.

Ryan Clady will see his cap number drop in 2014. He counted $12.6 million against the cap in 2013, but this upcoming season that number will drop to $8.6 million. This is a saving of $4 million, which brings the extra space total for the Broncos to a potential $36.3 million.



"While Clady’s cap number will decrease in 2014, there are a few big-money Broncos who will see their salaries inflated in the new league year.

Wes Welker will see his cap number rise from $4.1 million to $8 million in 2014. Louis Vasquez will see an increase from $3.2 million to $7.2 million in 2014. Von Miller will see a slight increase in his cap number, from $4.9 million in 2013 to $6.6 million in 2014. The combined increase between these three players is around $9.6 million.

Subtract that figure from the $36.3 million potential cap space, and that leaves $26.7 million."


"Subtracted from the $26.7 million, that leaves around $22.5 million in potential cap space.

The Broncos may restructure or extend players that are possible cuts due to their salary. Instead of cutting guys like Bailey or Tamme, the team may instead choose to change the terms of their current contracts. The $22.5 million figure is a rough number, but it shows that the Broncos will have a little bit of money to play with in 2014."

Doggcow
02-04-2014, 05:37 AM
I've wanted Dansby forever... By the time we get him he will be old and run down I bet.

Action
02-04-2014, 05:38 AM
Re-Sign DRC ? Please tell me what good he does? He is a cover corner but other than that, he runs from contact and thinks this is a flag-football league. Didn't you learn from the Super Bowl that the way to go is physical????

Is this a joke?