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crush17
01-30-2014, 08:44 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/lupica-belichick-marvels-mind-manning-article-1.1596209

Great read, even if he is a sore loser. Take your medicine Billy!


Belichick: “He’s so difficult to play against, so well-versed in every single part of the game. I’ll give you an example. I’m watching the Broncos play the Chargers in the playoffs, and see San Diego jump offsides five times. And I’m thinking, ‘Jeez, how the hell can these guys be offsides, they’ve played him two times already in the regular season and even beaten him once?’
“So I went back and watched the TV copies of two or three games before the San Diego game. Not just watched them so much as listened to them. I listened to the rhythm of his cadence in those games and then I listened to his cadence in that first playoff game, and realized he’d changed, like, four different cadences. And got ’em with that! And you know something? He would have gotten me, too.


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OOJack
01-30-2014, 09:42 AM
A very good read. Thanks!

Willynowei
01-30-2014, 09:47 AM
Good read. I think one point he made which is very true about the matchup is that the hawks are a simple defense, there's nothing to figure out. It's 1-man press and 3-zone all day, and they will make it a game of execution.

This game really isn't about Manning, its about the discipline and execution of our receivers and O-line. With great discipline and focus they will be able to steadily put together long drives.

bronco militia
01-30-2014, 09:56 AM
It has been a big part of Belichick’s job, figuring out ways to beat Peyton Manning. On Sunday night in Jersey, it is somebody else’s job. I asked Bill Belichick Wednesday about the fun of going up against Manning across all the years.
He said, “I wouldn’t call it fun.”



:charge: :militia:

Kaylore
01-30-2014, 09:57 AM
Yeah the extra week can allow you to create some wrinkles, but really after week 10, there's not a whole lot schematically that you can do to fool anyone. In football, having a player familiar with a scheme so he can play faster and make fewer mistakes is always preferable to a more exotic scheme that the opponent hasn't seen but may result in mistakes that result in blown coverages.

Both teams are who they are. There isn't too much different you're going to see at this point. It will be our best 22 versus theirs. I do think if they stay with their simple coverage that Manning will do much better than if they mix it up. Especially when you add in Adam Gase's creativity.

Dedhed
01-30-2014, 10:10 AM
It was intersting watching the difference between the Chargers DL and the Pats DL in regards to their get off on the snap. The Chargers were way too aggressive resulting in all the offsides penalties, and the Pats were too passive in their get off.

It will be interesting to see what the seahawks DL does. I'm thinking with their ephasis on needing to distrupt Peyton with pressure, it will be more similar to the Chargers game.

Rohirrim
01-30-2014, 10:43 AM
I imagine Seattle will come out really fired up to try and sack Peyton. Might be a good thing to try that cadence change up on them early.

BigPlayShay
01-30-2014, 10:49 AM
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labronx
01-30-2014, 12:32 PM
FAVOR! Can someone please Paste the text(content) of the article in this thread. Im receiving Insufficient Memory Error. Thanks and please!

nyuk nyuk
01-30-2014, 12:37 PM
Super Bowl XLVIII will ride on Peyton Manning and Bill Belichick knows that's hard for an opposing coach

If you are going to talk to somebody about Peyton Manning going into another Super Bowl, what feels like the biggest game Manning has ever played just because of all it took to get him here, who else do you talk to besides Belichick?

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 29, 2014, 10:57 PM

You always talk about Peyton Manning against Tom Brady, the kind of rivalry that has been, the two best quarterbacks of this time and two of the best of all time going up against each other in their primes. But the rivalry that mattered once the games started, when Brady wasn’t covering Peyton, when they weren’t banging away at each other in the low blocks the way Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain once did, has been this:

Bill Belichick against Peyton Manning.

Two of the great football minds in all of pro football history, going up against each other 15 times, three times in championship games, the last one going to Manning a couple of weeks ago, when it was Broncos 26, Patriots 16, and Manning threw for 400 yards against Belichick’s defense.

If you are going to talk to somebody about Peyton Manning going into another Super Bowl, what feels like the biggest game Manning has ever played just because of all it took to get him here, who else do you talk to besides Belichick?

And when you do, as I did on Wednesday morning, you don’t have to ask a lot of questions about Manning, you mostly just try to stay out of his way.

“In so many ways,” Belichick says, “because of his talent and because of how good he is at the strategy and the execution of his offense, it is the ultimate challenge.”

Belichick: “He’s so difficult to play against, so well-versed in every single part of the game. I’ll give you an example. I’m watching the Broncos play the Chargers in the playoffs, and see San Diego jump offsides five times. And I’m thinking, ‘Jeez, how the hell can these guys be offsides, they’ve played him two times already in the regular season and even beaten him once?’

“So I went back and watched the TV copies of two or three games before the San Diego game. Not just watched them so much as listened to them. I listened to the rhythm of his cadence in those games and then I listened to his cadence in that first playoff game, and realized he’d changed, like, four different cadences. And got ’em with that! And you know something? He would have gotten me, too.

“With (Manning) it is every ... single … thing. It’s cadence. It’s formations. It’s little adjustments he’ll have guys make in pass routes. A protection on an inside-the-20-yard-line play. The changes he’ll make on third down, or with play action. But it’s all within the context of their offense. And it’s not 50 different things. Maybe there’ll be five plays in a game that you’ll think, ‘I haven’t seen that before.’ Or: ‘I haven’t seen that in several weeks.’ But you know you’ve seen all the rest of it before, and somehow he’s still making it work.


“He changes little things as he goes, and they end up becoming big things, even if it’s something as small as a snap count. And it’s totally him. This is his offense, the one he ran in Indianapolis. He’s the one managing the game. You’ll see him giving a hand signal to one of his receivers and the guy will run a slant. The next week he’ll give the exact same hand signal, only the same guy won’t run a slant, he’ll run a ‘go.’ You can never zero in on him the way you can with other teams. You play him honest, but still worry about everything.”

By the way? This is all one answer from Belichick, talking about going up against Manning for all these years, trying to find the right answers against him, succeeding as often as he has. The Patriots are 10-5 against Manning’s teams, lifetime. But the only game that ever matters to Belichick is the last one, in Denver less than two weeks ago.

He finishes this way: “He is such a good game manager. And as soon as he sees something, he seizes on it, takes advantage. He’s very good at that. Ahead or behind, he always does the right thing. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t make mistakes, or throw interceptions. He does. Everybody does. But there aren’t many games when you walk away and think, ‘Wow, why would he do that?’

“There haven’t been many games you look at in total and say that he and his offense were the reason his team lost the game. The Baltimore (playoff) game last year, c’mon, he got beat because the defense gave up a big play. I look at him the way we looked at Joe Montana: You beat him with an entire team game. The more you can keep him on the sideline, the more pressure you can put on him to make a play when he’s back on the field.”

You ask Belichick about Super Bowl XLVIII, and Seattle’s defense, and he says:

“I think Seattle is a tough matchup for Denver. They don’t have to do things much differently than they have been doing. They’re looking for enough pass rush and doing enough to jam (Manning’s) receivers to cause problems for him doing the things he likes to do. And the amount of zone they play could be a problem for him. But of course that becomes a problem for Seattle if Manning is picking them apart.”

Then he is talking about how the Patriots played from behind in the AFC Championship, never a good thing against any Peyton Manning team, but particularly this one.

“Listen,” Bill Belichick says, “it’s not like Manning is going to panic if he does have to play from behind. But if you are able to come out and get ahead of them, you do take away some of his comfort zone. I say this in a complimentary way, but they’re a front-running team.”

Then he is talking more about the AFC Championship Game, and how the Broncos controlled the ball and scoreboard early. He talks about the Chargers getting ahead of the Broncos in the regular-season game they won in Denver. “They never let them play from ahead,” Belichick says.

It has been a big part of Belichick’s job, figuring out ways to beat Peyton Manning. On Sunday night in Jersey, it is somebody else’s job. I asked Bill Belichick Wednesday about the fun of going up against Manning across all the years.

He said, “I wouldn’t call it fun.”

errand
01-30-2014, 01:01 PM
Yeah the extra week can allow you to create some wrinkles

Both teams are who they are. There isn't too much different you're going to see at this point. It will be our best 22 versus theirs. I do think if they stay with their simple coverage that Manning will do much better than if they mix it up. Especially when you add in Adam Gase's creativity.

Cowboys HC Jimmy Johnson was watching the news coverage of the Buffalo Bills and noticed in the background Jim Kelly tossing a shovel pass to Thurman Thomas....he called his staff to go through the entire film of the Bills to see if they ever threw a shovel pass.....anyways, long story short, the Bills tried it in the Sb and it met with disastrous results.

nyuk nyuk
01-30-2014, 01:13 PM
Cowboys HC Jimmy Johnson was watching the news coverage of the Buffalo Bills and noticed in the background Jim Kelly tossing a shovel pass to Thurman Thomas....he called his staff to go through the entire film of the Bills to see if they ever threw a shovel pass.....anyways, long story short, the Bills tried it in the Sb and it met with disastrous results.

Wow what a catch. The team should have been more careful with news cameras.

Kaylore
01-30-2014, 01:15 PM
You shouldn't post entire articles on the site or Taco will get sued.

Cito Pelon
01-30-2014, 01:31 PM
Good read. I think one point he made which is very true about the matchup is that the hawks are a simple defense, there's nothing to figure out. It's 1-man press and 3-zone all day, and they will make it a game of execution.

This game really isn't about Manning, its about the discipline and execution of our receivers and O-line. With great discipline and focus they will be able to steadily put together long drives.

I wonder if Seattle will try something more exotic on defense just for this game.