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Pony Boy
08-02-2013, 09:50 AM
Feds Give Laid off Boeing Workers Sweet Deal

Thanks to a federal program lined up by their unions, local workers laid off during the current dip in employment at Boeing Commercial Airplanes will enjoy a financial cushion that’s much, much plumper than what the average unemployed state resident gets.

“Compared to what Joe Worker gets when they get laid off, our members have a pretty extensive safety net,” said Connie Kelliher, spokeswoman for the International Association of Machinists (IAM).


Federal help for Boeing Commercial Airplanes’ laid-off workers

Extended unemployment pay for up to 2˝ years

A 72.5 percent tax credit on health-care insurance premiums

90 percent of travel expenses to a job interview covered up to $1,250

90 percent of relocation expenses for a new job, plus a relocation lump sum up to $1,250

Supplemental pay for workers older than 50 re-employed in a lower-paid job, up to $10,000 over two years

Up to $25,000 training grant toward cost of a college degree


Source: state Employment Security Department


http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2021513853_boeinglayoffsxml.html

houghtam
08-02-2013, 09:52 AM
Good for them for using their collective voice to get what they feel they are worth.

I suppose you're in favor of disbanding the players unions?

This is capitalism, bub.

Pony Boy
08-02-2013, 10:14 AM
Good for them for using their collective voice to get what they feel they are worth.

I suppose you're in favor of disbanding the players unions?

This is capitalism, bub.

Oh, I see your point Boeing workers are worth more than the average unemployed state resident so the Feds needs to kick in a little extra for them.

The difference with the players union is the American taxpayers aren't picking up the tab.

Fedaykin
08-02-2013, 10:21 AM
Oh, I see your point Boeing workers are worth more than the average unemployed state resident so the Feds needs to kick in a little extra for them.

The difference with the players union is the American taxpayers aren't picking up the tab.

The player's union isn't directly affected by political decisions either. Players don't lose their job because the president negotiates a trade deal that directly eliminates their job.

Rohirrim
08-02-2013, 11:06 AM
Another troglodyte shocked by the rare appearance of civilization.

El Minion
08-02-2013, 12:08 PM
Oh, I see your point Boeing workers are worth more than the average unemployed state resident so the Feds needs to kick in a little extra for them.

The difference with the players union is the American taxpayers aren't picking up the tab.

Ever hear about the publicly financed stadiums the players are playing in, you know socializing the cost to privatize the profit, or colloquially called welfare for billionaires. I love LA for not caving to the public funds shakedown by the NFL :thumbs:

gyldenlove
08-02-2013, 12:27 PM
Why do employees of a private company get a federal deal?

Pony Boy
08-02-2013, 03:33 PM
The player's union isn't directly affected by political decisions either. Players don't lose their job because the president negotiates a trade deal that directly eliminates their job.

So will Obama give this same sweet deal to the coal miners that have had their jobs eliminated by his energy policy?

nyuk nyuk
08-03-2013, 09:45 AM
Amazing the sense of entitlement. When the feds closed down Rocky Flats, similar shrieks were hear from people: We demand retraining at similar wages, blah blah blah.

Sorry but every job everybody takes is a risk. If that job ends, there is never a guarantee for anyone anywhere their next job will pay as much.

I don't see why certain groups of workers should enjoy special rights and cushions from the reality of the world of unemployment that others have to face. That is just crap.

Rohirrim
08-03-2013, 09:58 AM
Ha! The outrage of the Right Wingers is a comedy of error.

It is attempted atrocities like these, piled one on top of other, that have gotten into the collective psyche of society today. Reading about another wacky corporate payout is not something I can ever get anesthetized to. Each one is just another pinprick of the injustices in our broken system of corporate governance. People rightly perceive that in corporate America, the game is rigged. Rank and file workers are the balls getting bounced around off the bumpers of a pinball machine, while insider corporate cronies dole out shareholder money for egregious bonuses using like it’s a Parker Bros. game of Monopoly. As one justification the crony filled board made mention that after the bankruptcy all of Mr. Horton’s precious options might be worthless. What about the pensions of the thousands of employees who held AMR Corp. stock? What about unsuspecting public shareholders and widows and orphans?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardfinger/2013/03/29/paid-to-fail-bankrupt-american-airlines-ceo-slated-for-20-million-severance/

chadta
08-04-2013, 04:41 AM
I don't see why certain groups of workers should enjoy special rights and cushions from the reality of the world of unemployment that others have to face. That is just crap.

Pretty simple really. In lieu of pay at the present they took this package for the future. Good for them and good for their union to actually do something good for them. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before that union gets the blame for them being out of work in the first place.

You can't pay bank execs big bonuses and say its contract we had too, then turn around and not honour this. Either you believe in contracts or you don't.

Rohirrim
08-04-2013, 06:37 AM
In America, contracts only have meaning for those who can defend them in court.

elsid13
08-04-2013, 07:02 AM
I like the the fact that no one has pointed out that the program is available to any and all workers who's job has been displaced overseas. The Boeing Union just had the ability to ensure their member had knowledge of the program and how to apply. That is the power of organization.

peacepipe
08-04-2013, 08:26 AM
I like the the fact that no one has pointed out that the program is available to any and all workers who's job has been displaced overseas. The Boeing Union just had the ability to ensure their member had knowledge of the program and how to apply. That is the power of organization.

+1

houghtam
08-04-2013, 09:21 AM
In America, contracts only have meaning for those who can defend them in court.

In Soviet Russia, court defends YOU!

nyuk nyuk
08-04-2013, 09:26 AM
Pretty simple really. In lieu of pay at the present they took this package for the future. Good for them and good for their union to actually do something good for them. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before that union gets the blame for them being out of work in the first place.

You can't pay bank execs big bonuses and say its contract we had too, then turn around and not honour this. Either you believe in contracts or you don't.

Union? It's a federal program, union or non-union, only applying to jobs outsourced overseas while leaving those who are laid off domestically in favor of foreign imported labor up the creek.

This is a case of special rights for certain people. It's epic stupidity. What about these people in specific entitles them to this? Nothing.

peacepipe
08-04-2013, 09:49 AM
Lol it isn't a case of special rights for certain people. If you have a problem with foreign workers being brought in via the hb2(I believe) program contact your congressman about changing the laws that allow that.

nyuk nyuk
08-04-2013, 11:02 AM
Lol it isn't a case of special rights for certain people. If you have a problem with foreign workers being brought in via the hb2(I believe) program contact your congressman about changing the laws that allow that.

Clearly it is. Certain unemployed people are given special handouts.

I guess you guys don't believe in equal treatment :D

peacepipe
08-04-2013, 11:38 AM
Clearly it is. Certain unemployed people are given special handouts.

I guess you guys don't believe in equal treatment :Dwell then,get off this board and contact your rep about it.

chadta
08-06-2013, 04:03 AM
Union? It's a federal program, union or non-union, only applying to jobs outsourced overseas while leaving those who are laid off domestically in favor of foreign imported labor up the creek.

I was only going by the info provided.

Feds Give Laid off Boeing Workers Sweet Deal

Thanks to a federal program lined up by their unions

I like the the fact that no one has pointed out that the program is available to any and all workers who's job has been displaced overseas. The Boeing Union just had the ability to ensure their member had knowledge of the program and how to apply. That is the power of organization.

So like elsid says, its a good thing the union let the membership know about it. I stand by my original statement, the union did some good.

In America, contracts only have meaning for those who can defend them in court.

I fear you are right, and its terrible.