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baja
03-15-2013, 09:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdri2hRgT04

Rohirrim
03-15-2013, 11:32 AM
There's a Conspiracy Con? Damn! That's some rich soil for a Steve Carell comedy right there. I haven't worked in the screenwriting format for years but I still have Final Draft on this PC. Must get to work... ;D

houghtam
03-15-2013, 11:43 AM
Will there be any guys who throw like girls and are thus less manly in this future?

W*GS
03-15-2013, 11:57 AM
Everyone who knows the Truth stays away from these bogus Conspira-Cons. Those are just part of the Conspiracy.

Rohirrim
03-15-2013, 12:03 PM
Everyone who knows the Truth stays away from these bogus Conspira-Cons. Those are just part of the Conspiracy.

Hilarious!

baja
03-15-2013, 12:11 PM
Will there be any guys who throw like girls and are thus less manly in this future?

More importantly there will be a large numbers that will not have a clue as to how to take care of themselves and their families when systems do break down be it natural disaster, war, false flag or economic collapse.

Rohirrim
03-15-2013, 12:16 PM
Everybody needs to lighten up. Here. Crank this up...

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Rohirrim
03-15-2013, 12:20 PM
Here's the second verse...

Saw a man with the jinx in the third degree
From trying to deal with people--people you can't see
Take away, take away, this house of mirrors
Give away, give away, all the souvenirs
We're all in the same boat ready to float off the edge of the world
The flat old world

Sing along. ;D

houghtam
03-15-2013, 01:08 PM
More importantly there will be a large numbers that will not have a clue as to how to take care of themselves and their families when systems do break down be it natural disaster, war, false flag or economic collapse.

What, in your opinion, would be the best indicator of whether I'm ready for a natural disaster?

- I can throw a spiral.

- I can hit home on a rope 9 times out of 10 from center field.

- I'm probably better than anyone on this board at darts (regular or lawn)

- Also horseshoes.

Are any of those necessary things in a natural disaster/in order for my son to be a manly man?

Rohirrim
03-15-2013, 01:14 PM
What, in your opinion, would be the best indicator of whether I'm ready for a natural disaster?

- I can throw a spiral.

- I can hit home on a rope 9 times out of 10 from center field.

- I'm probably better than anyone on this board at darts (regular or lawn)

- Also horseshoes.

Are any of those necessary things in a natural disaster/in order for my son to be a manly man?

Darts? Care for a little Cricket? :~ohyah!:

houghtam
03-15-2013, 02:54 PM
Darts? Care for a little Cricket? :~ohyah!:

Hells yes! I usually play 501 2x in/out, butcricket will work, too...I mean, we're in a future wasteland where every day is a struggle to survive. We're going to need something to pass the time, amirite?

The Lone Bolt
03-15-2013, 03:38 PM
The future according to Ray Kurzweil

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baja
03-15-2013, 04:37 PM
SINGULARITY - the greatest threat to human existence since the beginning of time yet most of you will embrace it. You will stand in line to be chipped then get in the next line for your Stepford wife just like you did for you iPhone. Wake up!

The Lone Bolt
03-15-2013, 05:05 PM
Sorry you feel that way Baja. I believe that the Singularity means the end of disease, poverty, and old age. It means that all of us will be able to enjoy indefinite youth, perfect health, and dramatically increased intelligence. Our ability to consume will be greatly outstripped by our ability to supply. Our access to vast amounts of information will be instantaneous. Our decision making will be collective and not hierarchical.

Put your anxiety on hold and try to imagine the potential for humanity.

baja
03-15-2013, 05:22 PM
Anybody ever tell you the story of the Trojan Horse?

cutthemdown
03-15-2013, 07:47 PM
What, in your opinion, would be the best indicator of whether I'm ready for a natural disaster?

- I can throw a spiral.

- I can hit home on a rope 9 times out of 10 from center field.

- I'm probably better than anyone on this board at darts (regular or lawn)

- Also horseshoes.

Are any of those necessary things in a natural disaster/in order for my son to be a manly man?

old school lawn darts or the new style pussy ones that don't even kill one kid a yr?

Rohirrim
03-15-2013, 09:30 PM
Sorry you feel that way Baja. I believe that the Singularity means the end of disease, poverty, and old age. It means that all of us will be able to enjoy indefinite youth, perfect health, and dramatically increased intelligence. Our ability to consume will be greatly outstripped by our ability to supply. Our access to vast amounts of information will be instantaneous. Our decision making will be collective and not hierarchical.

Put your anxiety on hold and try to imagine the potential for humanity.

Sounds like the Borg.

The Lone Bolt
03-15-2013, 09:50 PM
Sounds like the Borg.

Resistance is futile. ;D

W*GS
03-16-2013, 07:05 AM
Anybody ever tell you the story of the Trojan Horse?

You mean this one?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WFqxPCBXwP0/TqskgxyHDiI/AAAAAAAAAlc/fExc8B3mS9k/s320/trojan+rabbit.jpg

BroncsRule
03-16-2013, 10:22 AM
I thought Kurzweil's Singularity is the moment in time when the first machine becomes self aware..

AKA "the Rapture of the Nerds".

houghtam
03-16-2013, 10:35 AM
Anyone ever read Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke?

IMO that's what the singularity is.

Except its thousands of years off and a natural process, not right around the corner due to an alien invasion.

baja
03-16-2013, 11:16 AM
What, in your opinion, would be the best indicator of whether I'm ready for a natural disaster?

- I can throw a spiral.

- I can hit home on a rope 9 times out of 10 from center field.

- I'm probably better than anyone on this board at darts (regular or lawn)

- Also horseshoes.

Are any of those necessary things in a natural disaster/in order for my son to be a manly man?

You misunderstand me. It is not the father's lack of athletic ability I find harmful it is the pervasive media portrayal of men being weak and helpless.

There is a programing going on. I am surprised more do not see given it is so in your face.

Rohirrim
03-16-2013, 11:19 AM
Just to take one small issue out of the thousands presented by such an idea: Has anybody looked at what the combination of climate change and population growth has done to this planet and then projected forward the outcome of aging being reversed and people living much longer?

I think the human capacity for innovation outpaces the human capacity to evolve the consciousness needed to deal with much of the innovation. In simple terms: We invent the internet and then use it for porno. I rest my case. :thanku:

Rohirrim
03-16-2013, 11:21 AM
You misunderstand me. It is not the father's lack of athletic ability I find harmful it is the pervasive media portrayal of men being weak and helpless.

There is a programing going on. I am surprised more do not see given it is so in your face.

I saw Skyfall last night, so I can't agree. ;D

The Lone Bolt
03-16-2013, 12:35 PM
I thought Kurzweil's Singularity is the moment in time when the first machine becomes self aware..

AKA "the Rapture of the Nerds".

The Singularity has been around as a concept for decades. Kurzweil just wrote a book presenting the supporting evidence and predicting when it will occur.

It's based on the Law of Accellerating Returns, which posits that technological advance is increasing as time goes by. An example of this is "Moore's Law" created by Intel founder Gordon Moore in the 1960s. It states that the number of transistors that can fit on a single microprocessor will double every 2 years. Not only has it proven accurate, but, as Kurzweil has pointed out, it has increased to every year.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/PPTMooresLawai.jpg/596px-PPTMooresLawai.jpg

(Note that this is a logarithmic chart)

So the Singularity is when technological innovation reaches the point of the curve that is almost vertical and advances come so fast they seem instantaneous. After that it's becomes imposible to predict what happens.

Rohirrim
03-16-2013, 12:52 PM
The Singularity has been around as a concept for decades. Kurzweil just wrote a book presenting the supporting evidence and predicting when it will occur.

It's based on the Law of Accellerating Returns, which posits that technological advance is increasing as time goes by. An example of this is "Moore's Law" created by Intel founder Gordon Moore in the 1960s. It states that the number of transistors that can fit on a single microprocessor will double every 2 years. Not only has it proven accurate, but, as Kurzweil has pointed out, it has increased to every year.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/PPTMooresLawai.jpg/596px-PPTMooresLawai.jpg

(Note that this is a logarithmic chart)

So the Singularity is when technological innovation reaches the point of the curve that is almost vertical and advances come so fast they seem instantaneous. After that it's becomes imposible to predict what happens.

The problem is, you have a few people working on something like the Hadron Collider while the overwhelming majority of humans on this planet couldn't tell you how a toaster works.

The Lone Bolt
03-16-2013, 12:58 PM
The problem is, you have a few people working on something like the Hadron Collider while the overwhelming majority of humans on this planet couldn't tell you how a toaster works.

One of the benefits of the Singularity will be dramatically enhanced human intelligence.

baja
03-16-2013, 01:33 PM
I saw Skyfall last night, so I can't agree. ;D

Watch TV commercials with my point i mind.

baja
03-16-2013, 01:34 PM
I saw Skyfall last night, so I can't agree. ;D

Consider my claim when watching TV commercials.

baja
03-16-2013, 01:37 PM
One of the benefits of the Singularity will be dramatically enhanced human intelligence.


Do you understand how far advanced weaponized versions of IE is and how much money is being thrown at this. Search around the internet.....

The Lone Bolt
03-16-2013, 02:05 PM
Do you understand how far advanced weaponized versions of IE is and how much money is being thrown at this. Search around the internet.....

I think you mean "AI." And artificial intelligence is being applied in many areas. It should surprise nobody that the military would find some applications for it.

Rohirrim
03-16-2013, 02:27 PM
One of the benefits of the Singularity will be dramatically enhanced human intelligence.

"Dramatically enhanced human intelligence" requires dramatically enhanced education systems. We seem to be going in the opposite direction.

The Lone Bolt
03-16-2013, 02:45 PM
"Dramatically enhanced human intelligence" requires dramatically enhanced education systems. We seem to be going in the opposite direction.

What evidence do you base that on?

Rohirrim
03-16-2013, 02:54 PM
What evidence do you base that on?

Andreas Schleicher, special adviser on education at the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), says the US is now the only major economy in the world where the younger generation is not going to be better educated than the older.

"It's something of great significance because much of today's economic power of the United States rests on a very high degree of adult skills - and that is now at risk," says Mr Schleicher.

"These skills are the engine of the US economy and the engine is stuttering," says Mr Schleicher, one of the world's most influential experts on international education comparisons.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20154358

Face it. College costs are rising beyond the reach of more and more young Americans every year.

We have decided, as a society, to pour more and more of our created wealth into the pockets of the already extremely wealthy. We'll see where that gets us, although the indicators are already pretty clear.

The Lone Bolt
03-16-2013, 07:15 PM
Andreas Schleicher, special adviser on education at the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), says the US is now the only major economy in the world where the younger generation is not going to be better educated than the older.

"It's something of great significance because much of today's economic power of the United States rests on a very high degree of adult skills - and that is now at risk," says Mr Schleicher.

"These skills are the engine of the US economy and the engine is stuttering," says Mr Schleicher, one of the world's most influential experts on international education comparisons.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20154358

Face it. College costs are rising beyond the reach of more and more young Americans every year.

We have decided, as a society, to pour more and more of our created wealth into the pockets of the already extremely wealthy. We'll see where that gets us, although the indicators are already pretty clear.

Thanks for the clarification and the link.

While I agree that college costs are getting out of control and need to be addressed, I don't see how that would prevent the widespread augmentation of human intelligence by technology, which is what I was talking about.

The Lone Bolt
03-16-2013, 08:44 PM
BTW, Skyfall sucked.