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Rascal
03-05-2013, 08:18 AM
The five-year contract Dwayne Bowe signed with the Chiefs Tuesday is worth a total of $56M and contains $26M in guarantees. Bowe is now the NFL's third highest paid wide receiver, behind only Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald.

:spit:

https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/statuses/308951775875047424

Requiem
03-05-2013, 08:23 AM
If he was on another team he would be putting up better #'s. QB play hurts his overall ability to make an impact on the field. However, he needs to stop dropping balls. I expected something around $50 million. Who else would they have waiting in the wings? Jon Baldwin? The rest of their depth at WR is extremely young guys who haven't done anything in the NFL: in short -- their WR corps is DOG****.

Rascal
03-05-2013, 08:24 AM
If he was on another team he would be putting up better #'s. QB play hurts his overall ability to make an impact on the field. However, he needs to stop dropping balls. I expected something around $50 million. Who else would they have waiting in the wings? Jon Baldwin? The rest of their depth at WR is extremely young guys who haven't done anything in the NFL: in short -- their WR corps is DOG****.

They still overpaid.

Crushaholic
03-05-2013, 08:27 AM
The chiefs HAD to keep Bowe. They have nobody else. Breaston is not panning out, and Baldwin has his moments...

Tombstone RJ
03-05-2013, 08:49 AM
The thing is, Bowe has never had a decent QB to work with so if Alex Smith can get him the ball, he's an explosive WR, big and fast. I think this contract is based on how much kc is planning on using him more than what he's done so far in the NFL.

Requiem
03-05-2013, 08:49 AM
They still overpaid.

I'm not disputing that. I was putting the #'s in perspective to his overall value to the franchise. They did what was necessary to keep him on the team. If he walked, they would be up **** creek without a paddle. I expect him to have a great year under Reid and with an above-average QB slinging him the ball.

ColoradoDarin
03-05-2013, 09:23 AM
I'm not disputing that. I was putting the #'s in perspective to his overall value to the franchise. They did what was necessary to keep him on the team. If he walked, they would be up **** creek without a paddle. I expect him to have a great year under Reid and with an above-average QB slinging him the ball.

This.

Bigdawg26
03-05-2013, 09:42 AM
I'm not disputing that. I was putting the #'s in perspective to his overall value to the franchise. They did what was necessary to keep him on the team. If he walked, they would be up **** creek without a paddle. I expect him to have a great year under Reid and with an above-average QB slinging him the ball.

I still can't see anything about Alex Smith that would leave you to believe he's above average.

maven
03-05-2013, 09:51 AM
They need Bowe back. Now with him, the punter locked up, and franchising Albert. 7 wins!

Requiem
03-05-2013, 09:56 AM
I still can't see anything about Alex Smith that would leave you to believe he's above average.

He is better than what they have rolled with for years. I don't think he is good or great, but he can win games and do some things on the field his predecessors in KFCLand have not been able to do.

Jetmeck
03-05-2013, 10:14 AM
They still overpaid.


THEY STILL OVERPAID, this guy is the perfect example of the me first team mate. Alligator arm Mfer...............

Stupid Chiefs.............Alex Smith will go back to his old self on this crappy team and Bowe will be lucky to see the ball.

What a bunch of chumps .... KC management is at least consistent.

Jetmeck
03-05-2013, 10:19 AM
He is better than what they have rolled with for years. I don't think he is good or great, but he can win games and do some things on the field his predecessors in KFCLand have not been able to do.


What part of game manager for a good team is hard to understand ?

Seriously this guy would be Trent Dilfer 2.0 on a good team......like SF with a good defense and CONSISTENT RUNNING ATTACK.

In Chumpland KC with an inconsistent running game and middle of the pack at best defense he will return to the Trent Dilfer 1.0 version we all knew.

You don't go 4 years stinking it up and then suddenly throw a switch.............SF made him look better.

Anyone who has watched football for years knows this is true.....

Rolandftw
03-05-2013, 10:22 AM
I think the Chiefs paid a fair price for Bowe, considering what he's done in his career with KC. Still think the Alex Smith move sucks for them though.

Kinda surprised it's not being talked about more, and know he's a good punter but $3.75 a year for a punter just seems insane to me.

Bacchus
03-05-2013, 10:52 AM
Sure they overpaid for a WR who is about to turn 29 but they needed to do this if they want to have any chance of making the playoffs. It was a good signing for them.

They have nobody else at WR and a QB like Alex Smith needs all the help he can get.

Rohirrim
03-05-2013, 10:59 AM
Bowe's not even in the top fifteen WRs in the NFL. What a joke.

Mogulseeker
03-05-2013, 11:03 AM
I tend to agree with those who say he just hasn't had a QB to work with.

Bowe is a beast.

baja
03-05-2013, 11:03 AM
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Mogulseeker
03-05-2013, 11:07 AM
They need Bowe back. Now with him, the punter locked up, and franchising Albert. 7 wins!

I think with Alex Smith alone, they would have been a 9 win team in 2012.

It's not that the Chiefs didnt have talent last year... they were just really, really bad at a couple key aspects of the game that made them one-dimensional and easy to beat.

I'm more afraid of them than the Raiders at this point.

gunns
03-05-2013, 11:15 AM
Sure they overpaid for a WR who is about to turn 29 but they needed to do this if they want to have any chance of winning some games. It was a good signing for them.

They have nobody else at WR and a QB like Alex Smith needs all the help he can get.

This. And FIFY

Bigdawg26
03-05-2013, 11:59 AM
He is better than what they have rolled with for years. I don't think he is good or great, but he can win games and do some things on the field his predecessors in KFCLand have not been able to do.

He is better than what they had for the last couple of years. I will agree with that but that aint saying to much.

DaFace
03-05-2013, 12:23 PM
I don't think we overpaid at all. The "me first" guys around here clearly haven't been paying attention the last couple years. Also, when you say that he's not "good or great," you have to keep in mind that Cassel was the BEST quarterback he's had throwing to him in his CAREER.

If you're interested in an interesting statistical analysis that was done a few weeks ago, check this out. It concluded that a fair deal for Bowe would have been 5 years, $58 million, $20 million guaranteed.

http://overthecap.com/estimating-the-value-of-wr-dwayne-bowe/

DaFace
03-05-2013, 12:28 PM
Kinda surprised it's not being talked about more, and know he's a good punter but $3.75 a year for a punter just seems insane to me.

I kind of agree, honestly. Still, Dustin kept us from being even more of an embarrassing team than we were in a lot of games over the past 5 years - to the point that he's fairly commonly jokingly referred to as "MVP" in Chiefs circles. I won't gripe too much that he's sticking around.

canadianbroncosfan
03-05-2013, 07:37 PM
http://nflhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/543767_325922380850048_1161496384_n.jpg

bowtown
03-05-2013, 07:49 PM
I think with Alex Smith alone, they would have been a 9 win team in 2012.



Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!

rmsanger
03-06-2013, 03:33 AM
I think Bowe's best stuff is still in front of him... He's a better WR than what we got; obviously we've got the far superior overall squad.

RhymesayersDU
03-06-2013, 04:11 AM
The Orange Mane: where if you're not making the league minimum, you're grossly overpaid and management is incompetent.

broncosteven
03-06-2013, 08:19 PM
So far kFc has decided to keep the guys that won them all of 2 games last year.

Bowe signing did not make them better, just treading water. I think Smith will up his stats, he will still drop more balls than he should but getting the ball closer to the LOS should allow him to get more YAC. I don't think he will ever touch his career year TD total of 15 set in 2010 when Cassel was throwing him the ball but we will see.

They still need to find 2 more WR's to take the double coverage off him.

As it is now they have Bowe, Baldwin who has been a bust and showed nothing yet, Moiekie(sp?) and the small fast guy who is too small to play every down.

With guys like Welker and Wallace on the market they threw a **** load of money at Bowe. I guess they thought that Smith couldn't get the ball down field to Wallace to make him worth paying and with the small dude playing in the slot on passing downs they don't need Welker, though he would be a great add. They need a possession guy who can be counted on to make some catches (unlike Bowe) and take some of the double teams off Bowe.

KCStud
03-06-2013, 09:09 PM
So far kFc has decided to keep the guys that won them all of 2 games last year.

Bowe signing did not make them better, just treading water. I think Smith will up his stats, he will still drop more balls than he should but getting the ball closer to the LOS should allow him to get more YAC. I don't think he will ever touch his career year TD total of 15 set in 2010 when Cassel was throwing him the ball but we will see.

They still need to find 2 more WR's to take the double coverage off him.

As it is now they have Bowe, Baldwin who has been a bust and showed nothing yet, Moiekie(sp?) and the small fast guy who is too small to play every down.

With guys like Welker and Wallace on the market they threw a **** load of money at Bowe. I guess they thought that Smith couldn't get the ball down field to Wallace to make him worth paying and with the small dude playing in the slot on passing downs they don't need Welker, though he would be a great add. They need a possession guy who can be counted on to make some catches (unlike Bowe) and take some of the double teams off Bowe.

I couldn't even finish reading this because it is so full of stupidity.

broncosteven
03-06-2013, 10:02 PM
I couldn't even finish reading this because it is so full of stupidity.

your glad your 2-14 team is keeping it's 2-14 players rather than cut ties with Bowe in a FA year where you can get Wallace, Welker, Amendola, Bowe all in the same FA class?

I know FA doesn't start in earnest until next week but why not wait until then and see what they can land in the FA market to totally upgrade your crappy/droppy WR's who gator arm balls for fear of getting hurt.

cutthemdown
03-06-2013, 11:21 PM
Still KC could not lose him. Charles and Bowe the only two playmakers on offense. If you have them Ried figures he is a TE and a solid oline away from being able to make Alex Smith servicable. KC will be better then you all think next yr Ried the best coach they ave had in quite some time.

They have about the same amount of talent as Denver except we have Manning.

Rolandftw
03-06-2013, 11:55 PM
I kind of agree, honestly. Still, Dustin kept us from being even more of an embarrassing team than we were in a lot of games over the past 5 years - to the point that he's fairly commonly jokingly referred to as "MVP" in Chiefs circles. I won't gripe too much that he's sticking around.

Yeah, I'm sure it is a signing that fans can't be too upset about. Seems like a good dude, that was massively overworked last season

boltaneer
03-06-2013, 11:57 PM
Alex Smith is their QB. It really doesn't matter what else they do. Sign Bowe, and whoever else you want.

They desperately need to draft a franchise QB already.

Bacchus
03-07-2013, 04:27 AM
Still KC could not lose him. Charles and Bowe the only two playmakers on offense. If you have them Ried figures he is a TE and a solid oline away from being able to make Alex Smith servicable. KC will be better then you all think next yr Ried the best coach they ave had in quite some time.

They have about the same amount of talent as Denver except we have Manning.

I agree, the Chiefs did what they had to do and if they can release him in year three with minimal cap consequence then they made out real well. He is worth $10 million right now at age 29 but age 33 could be a different story, but this was a good signing for them.

KCStud
03-07-2013, 05:21 AM
your glad your 2-14 team is keeping it's 2-14 players rather than cut ties with Bowe in a FA year where you can get Wallace, Welker, Amendola, Bowe all in the same FA class?

I know FA doesn't start in earnest until next week but why not wait until then and see what they can land in the FA market to totally upgrade your crappy/droppy WR's who gator arm balls for fear of getting hurt.

And here I thought your last post was the stupidest thing I've ever read. I was wrong. This is even more stupid. :rofl:

Inkana7
03-07-2013, 10:12 AM
that's like 500K a drop!

Hercules Rockefeller
03-07-2013, 10:20 AM
Minimum baseline for DT's eventual new deal

broncosteven
03-07-2013, 10:43 AM
Dangers of opening wallets for WRs

Mike Wallace has blazing speed that can char a secondary.

Nobody in the NFL caught more passes of 40-plus yards between 2007 and 2011 than Greg Jennings.

They are the two most attractive wide receivers in the upcoming class of unrestricted free agents.

But based upon the history of the position, it may prove a costly mistake to ink either to the big-money contracts both are expected to garner once the signing period begins March 12.
...
Which player is better to sign?

This is an interesting debate. Wallace is a bigger gamble because the cost will be so great. He is expected to garner a contract equal to or greater than the contract extension Dwayne Bowe signed March 4 with Kansas City.

Rather than risk getting slapped with the franchise tag for a second consecutive season, Bowe inked a reported five-year, $56 million deal with $26 million guaranteed.

At 26, Wallace is three years younger than Jennings and has more upside. The combination of four factors – a new offensive system that emphasized quicker passes, a preseason contract holdout, too many dropped passes and the three-game absence of quarterback Ben Roethlisberger because of a rib injury – contributed to a significant decline in Wallace’s receiving yards in 2012.
A change of scenery could help Wallace rebound in a big way, especially if given more opportunities downfield like during his first three seasons in Pittsburgh.

“I believe he’s going to play well for somebody,” long-time NFL executive and SiriusXM NFL Radio analyst Bill Polian said of Wallace. “I’ve seen enough in him to tell me this guy is a pretty talented play-maker.

“If you want to get on Mike Wallace for dropping balls, Dwayne Bowe is the president of that club. If you’re going to say, ‘Dwayne Bowe is a great receiver,’ well, he drops the ball more than every now and then. So does Mike Wallace. Is it a fatal flaw? Probably not.”

More below:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/dangers-of-spending-on-wide-receivers-in-free-agency-mike-wallace-greg-jennings-030613

KCStud
03-07-2013, 11:10 AM
Nothing like calling a rivals WR a dropfest when Demaryius Thomas tied for most drops from a WR last season.

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232


I love this stupidity. Keep it up brokebacksteven! :rofl:

DENVERDUI55
03-07-2013, 12:00 PM
Nothing like calling a rivals WR a dropfest when Demaryius Thomas tied for most drops from a WR last season.

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232


I love this stupidity. Keep it up brokebacksteven! :rofl:

Should we dig through the old posts and find out your awesome observations that Thomas is a bust and can't hold a jock to Bowe?

Inkana7
03-07-2013, 12:37 PM
Nothing like calling a rivals WR a dropfest when Demaryius Thomas tied for most drops from a WR last season.

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232


I love this stupidity. Keep it up brokebacksteven! :rofl:

Must suck to be tied with Calvin Johnson.

ColoradoDarin
03-07-2013, 12:45 PM
Nothing like calling a rivals WR a dropfest when Demaryius Thomas tied for most drops from a WR last season.

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232


I love this stupidity. Keep it up brokebacksteven! :rofl:

Deeeerrrrp.

What's a percentage?

KCStud
03-07-2013, 01:16 PM
Should we dig through the old posts and find out your awesome observations that Thomas is a bust and can't hold a jock to Bowe?

Bowe scores 15 TD's with Matt ****ing Cassel.

Thomas scores 10 TD's and he has Peyton Goddamn Manning.

If Bowe was Manning's WR last year he would have put up another 15 TD's.

Requiem
03-07-2013, 01:22 PM
Bowe scores 15 TD's with Matt ****ing Cassel.

Thomas scores 10 TD's and he has Peyton Goddamn Manning.

If Bowe was Manning's WR last year he would have put up another 15 TD's.

Which means that in 2010, Matt Cassel threw 12 touchdowns to every other person on their offense. Bowe accounts for over half of the teams receiving touchdowns that year.

Meanwhile, six other players (including Decker's 13) account for 27 more touchdowns for the Broncos in the passing game. Unlike the Chiefs, the Broncos don't have dog**** options in their receiving sets.

Good attempt at hyperbole.

broncosteven
03-07-2013, 01:23 PM
Nothing like calling a rivals WR a dropfest when Demaryius Thomas tied for most drops from a WR last season.

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232


I love this stupidity. Keep it up brokebacksteven! :rofl:

I don't see Bowe on these leader boards either:

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=057

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=053

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=053

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=231

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=056

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=154

Bowe failed to catch over half of the balls he was targeted for.

Keep telling yourself that signing a 29 year old WR who has only had 1 career year is a good thing.

Requiem
03-07-2013, 01:26 PM
Brokebacksteven, Gaylore. . . sounds like KCStud is projecting!

maven
03-07-2013, 01:27 PM
Bowe scores 15 TD's with Matt ****ing Cassel.

Thomas scores 10 TD's and he has Peyton Goddamn Manning.

If Bowe was Manning's WR last year he would have put up another 15 TD's.

Alex Smith is your QB.

:giggle:

KCStud
03-07-2013, 01:30 PM
I don't see Bowe on these leader boards either:

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=057

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=053

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=053

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=231

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=056

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=154

Bowe failed to catch over half of the balls he was targeted for.

Keep telling yourself that signing a 29 year old WR who has only had 1 career year is a good thing.

Bowe only played like 13 games brokebacksteven. He also had the worst QB situation the league has seen in years.

Of course he didn't put up the stats that other WR's that have QB's and played a full season did.

..insert facepalm..

KCStud
03-07-2013, 01:35 PM
Alex Smith is your QB.

:giggle:

What's funny is Alex Smith has more playoff wins than Peyton Manning does in their last 2 full seasons of play.

Gotta go back to 2009 season to get Pey Pey's last playoff win.

Enjoy your one-and-done QB.

Rabb
03-07-2013, 01:39 PM
What's funny is Alex Smith has more playoff wins than Peyton Manning does in their last 2 full seasons of play.

Gotta go back to 2009 season to get Pey Pey's last playoff win.

Enjoy your one-and-done QB.

Alex Smith also has the same amount of Super Bowl wins in his lifetime as you guys do during the same span. Seems like a solid fit.

Enjoy more of the same until the next guy steps in.

DBroncos4life
03-07-2013, 01:43 PM
Alex Smith is your QB.

:giggle:

Don't forget that KC didn't have another player with more then 4 TD catches that year Bowe caught 15. STD will talk a big game this offseason then get himself banned again during the season so he doesn't have back up the trash talking he does.

KCStud
03-07-2013, 01:44 PM
Don't forget that KC didn't have another player with more then 4 TD catches that year Bowe caught 15. STD will talk a big game this offseason then get himself banned again during the season so he doesn't have back up the trash talking he does.

Are you still crying over me making fun of you? Man that tampon has been in for months now. Time to take it out. :rofl:

Rabb
03-07-2013, 01:47 PM
Are you still crying over me making fun of you? Man that tampon has been in for months now. Time to take it out. :rofl:

Actually you just made a great analogy to Smith. He's the tampon there in KC, will stop the bleeding for a while until he's replaced by someone else who will just be there to stop the bleeding.

Nice work!

DBroncos4life
03-07-2013, 01:50 PM
Actually you just made a great analogy to Smith. He's the tampon there in KC, will stop the bleeding for a while until he's replaced by someone else who will just be there to stop the bleeding.

Nice work!

STD will pimp Smith just like he did a coach with a .300 winning %. :rofl:

Requiem
03-07-2013, 01:52 PM
KCStud is likely not in good shape.

KCStud
03-07-2013, 01:55 PM
STD? Is this supposed to be a name? Hmm

I'm sure BroncoCali is tired of you flooding his inbox trying to get me banned. :rofl:

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-07-2013, 02:00 PM
STD? Is this supposed to be a name? Hmm

I'm sure BroncoCali is tired of you flooding his inbox trying to get me banned. :rofl:

From the pathetic season you witnessed you didn't have a problem getting banned several times on your own throughout it

KCStud
03-07-2013, 02:07 PM
From the pathetic season you witnessed you didn't have a problem getting banned several times on your own throughout it

It's good to see you finally show your face. I find it hilarious you were all over me but then when your got owned in the playoffs you were nowhere to be found! :rofl::~ohyah!::giggle:

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-07-2013, 02:26 PM
It's good to see you finally show your face. I find it hilarious you were all over me but then when your got owned in the playoffs you were nowhere to be found! :rofl::~ohyah!::giggle:

This makes no sense. Do you see my post count? Ya I was really nowhere to be found.

broncosteven
03-13-2013, 02:16 PM
The five-year contract Dwayne Bowe signed with the Chiefs Tuesday is worth a total of $56M and contains $26M in guarantees. Bowe is now the NFL's third highest paid wide receiver, behind only Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald.

:spit:

https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/statuses/308951775875047424

kFc treads water at WR over paying for a slightly above avg WR and we go out and weaken the Pats by signing the best WR in FA UPGRADING our WR corps!

Totally love the Welker signing. kFc is going to need to grab a couple more CB's and Safeties to even have a chance at covering our passing game.

By upgrading the interior of our OL there is no way kFc will touch Manning.

What does the kFc OL look like? LT-Albert LG-TBD C-TBD, RG-TBD, RT-TBD

LOL

KCStud
03-13-2013, 03:17 PM
kFc treads water at WR over paying for a slightly above avg WR and we go out and weaken the Pats by signing the best WR in FA UPGRADING our WR corps!

Totally love the Welker signing. kFc is going to need to grab a couple more CB's and Safeties to even have a chance at covering our passing game.

By upgrading the interior of our OL there is no way kFc will touch Manning.

What does the kFc OL look like? LT-Albert LG-TBD C-TBD, RG-TBD, RT-TBD

LOL

Can't wait to see Welker drop more crucial passes in the playoffs just like he has the last 2 years in a row! Hilarious!

Rabb
03-13-2013, 03:18 PM
Can't wait to see Welker drop more crucial passes in the playoffs just like he has the last 2 years in a row! Hilarious!

I can't wait for Bowe to drop crucial passes in the playo....

wait, nm

broncosteven
03-13-2013, 03:20 PM
Can't wait to see Welker drop more crucial passes in the playoffs just like he has the last 2 years in a row! Hilarious!

Meanwhile Bowe will be sitting home watching the playoffs and counting his money.

KCStud
03-13-2013, 03:31 PM
This is what you're getting.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0205/nfl_a_welkerpanel_gb1_576.jpg

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcStk20fVZ-Z4uWjPJhq6Xv8xOAZhkTZgqQSfhxOL4oItWg_SV2fFQ

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0205/nfl_g_welker_gb1_576.jpg

And you still haven't fixed any of your pathetic secondary.

http://binaryapi.ap.org/3c812ee108f244b784a9e675d2da375d/940x.jpg

http://con-cdn.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/superphoto/9d062f6591f87101260f6a706700527e.jpg

broncosteven
03-13-2013, 03:37 PM
This is what you're getting.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0205/nfl_a_welkerpanel_gb1_576.jpg

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcStk20fVZ-Z4uWjPJhq6Xv8xOAZhkTZgqQSfhxOL4oItWg_SV2fFQ

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0205/nfl_g_welker_gb1_576.jpg

And you still haven't fixed any of your pathetic secondary.

http://binaryapi.ap.org/3c812ee108f244b784a9e675d2da375d/940x.jpg

http://con-cdn.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/superphoto/9d062f6591f87101260f6a706700527e.jpg

From a guy who got this:

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSNq8Fe9UqTe5BARuiWJuQ-tOyBVWjwO7BLvgzrCcKLmTE2BxrwYw

Donnie Avery and some no names and cut a guy at RT you said was a great player.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2013, 03:38 PM
Hilarious. It's difficult for chiefs QBs to complete 118 passes.

DBroncos4life
03-13-2013, 03:49 PM
KC was dumb to dump Romeo. I mean he knows how to stop Manning and all.

KCStud
03-13-2013, 03:51 PM
From a guy who got this:

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSNq8Fe9UqTe5BARuiWJuQ-tOyBVWjwO7BLvgzrCcKLmTE2BxrwYw

Donnie Avery and some no names and cut a guy at RT you said was a great player.

Not bad. Fasano is a legit top 7 TE in the NFL as well.
Kinda like this avery guy.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/avery.gif

Who is your ILB? Or your RB? Or anyone in your secondary?

There's a reason the Pats didn't want to keep Welker. He's become a clumsy handed goof.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2013, 04:07 PM
Not bad. Fasano is a legit top 7 TE in the NFL as well.
Kinda like this avery guy.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/avery.gif

Who is your ILB? Or your RB? Or anyone in your secondary?

There's a reason the Pats didn't want to keep Welker. He's become a clumsy handed goof.

There's a reason why the niners didnt want to keep Alex Smith

KCStud
03-13-2013, 04:08 PM
There's a reason why the niners didnt want to keep Alex Smith

Alex Smith sucks. His 20-6-1 record the last 2 yearsROFL! proves this.

SonOfLe-loLang
03-13-2013, 04:11 PM
Alex Smith sucks. His 20-6-1 record the last 2 yearsROFL! proves this.

Lol.

This is a bad day for you, isn't it. You can admit it, it's ok. We all know it.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2013, 04:13 PM
Alex Smith sucks. His 20-6-1 record the last 2 yearsROFL! proves this.

Ya and 118 catches is terrible. God you're an idiot


You should probably watch every one of those games to see how they were won. #clueless

Agamemnon
03-13-2013, 04:22 PM
I think Bowe's best stuff is still in front of him... He's a better WR than what we got; obviously we've got the far superior overall squad.

You're on crack.

Agamemnon
03-13-2013, 04:25 PM
And you still haven't fixed any of your pathetic secondary.


Err...the Broncos finished 3rd in the NFL against the pass you twit.

mwill07
03-13-2013, 04:27 PM
Not bad. Fasano is a legit top 7 TE in the NFL as well.
...

lets start with this one.

1. Antonio Gates.
2. Tony Gonzalez.
3. Rob Gronkowski.
4. Aaron Hernandez.
5. Jason Witten.
6. Jimmie Graham.
7. Owen Daniels.
8. Jermaine Gresham.
9. Heath Miller.

and on and on and on...I'm not sure if Fasano is a legit top 27 TE.

mwill07
03-13-2013, 04:28 PM
Not bad. Fasano is a legit top 7 TE in the NFL as well.
...

lets start with this one.

1. Antonio Gates.
2. Tony Gonzalez.
3. Rob Gronkowski.
4. Aaron Hernandez.
5. Jason Witten.
6. Jimmie Graham.
7. Owen Daniels.
8. Jermaine Gresham.
9. Heath Miller.

and on and on and on...I'm not sure if Fasano is a legit top 27 TE.

Greatspirits
03-13-2013, 04:28 PM
Alex Smith sucks. His 20-6-1 record the last 2 yearsROFL! proves this.

Keep trying to convince yourself, the niners teams were far superior than anything the queefs will have to offer. Bottom line, Queefs suck, have been for decades. You are and always will be our little redheaded retarded little brother!!

mwill07
03-13-2013, 04:35 PM
Alex Smith sucks. His 20-6-1 record the last 2 yearsROFL! proves this.

how many career 300 yard passing games now?

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2013, 04:44 PM
lets start with this one.

1. Antonio Gates.
2. Tony Gonzalez.
3. Rob Gronkowski.
4. Aaron Hernandez.
5. Jason Witten.
6. Jimmie Graham.
7. Owen Daniels.
8. Jermaine Gresham.
9. Heath Miller.

and on and on and on...I'm not sure if Fasano is a legit top 27 TE.


It's to the point where we can't even take this Bozo KCStudebaker seriously. Pedaling horrendous assumptions without any caution. This dude is dangerous.

Greatspirits
03-13-2013, 05:01 PM
Hey this all they got, it just plain sucks to be a Queefs fan!

ColoradoDarin
03-13-2013, 05:07 PM
ah....HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

DBroncos4life
03-13-2013, 05:09 PM
It's to the point where we can't even take this Bozo KCStudebaker seriously. Pedaling horrendous assumptions without any caution. This dude is dangerous.

STD was bragging about how good that one TE that played for them last year. Now look at him pimp this dude.

boltaneer
03-13-2013, 05:20 PM
Only KC Stud would get excited about Fasano and Donnie Avery. :rofl:

They're not bad signings but come on now...

Heyneck
03-13-2013, 05:31 PM
Not bad. Fasano is a legit top 7 TE in the NFL as well.
Kinda like this avery guy.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/avery.gif

Who is your ILB? Or your RB? Or anyone in your secondary?

There's a reason the Pats didn't want to keep Welker. He's become a clumsy handed goof.

hahahahahahahahahaha Fasano top 7... and pimping up Avery because he could catch perfectly thrown long balls from a Franchise QB. Even your previous TE Boss is better. Fassano top 7... hahahahahaha. He is a good blocker at best. Nothing more.

Guess Alex Smith is top 5 QB too right? The only reason he had a winning record the last few years was because he actually had a great team around him. Cassel 2.0. Lol

Aren't you tiered of this routine? Coming in every off season every year, trying to pimp up the latest signed player only to watch them choke in that arm pitt you call Arrowhead stadium?

KCStud
03-13-2013, 05:57 PM
Only KC Stud would get excited about Fasano and Donnie Avery. :rofl:

They're not bad signings but come on now...

Meh about Avery. Not really that excited.

More excited about Fasano. Guy didn't drop 1 pass last year and was a very good red zone threat.

KCStud
03-13-2013, 05:58 PM
I can't wait to hear this once again.

"Pass to Welker for the the first down...and he dropped it! Welker dropped it! It was right in his hands on a crucial play!"

Hilarious!

WolfpackGuy
03-13-2013, 05:58 PM
How much is Smith playing for?

Did they cut Assel yet?

cutthemdown
03-13-2013, 06:01 PM
Fasono a solid TE. Cheifs doing what they can and if they have to overpay a bit so be it. It doesn't seem like near enough to catch the Broncos though. All 3 of the Broncos wr would be good enough to start in kc at the 2 spot. DT IMO is better the Bowe and on KC would be the number 1 WR. So the Chiefs secondary has their work cut out for them to say the least.

But I love Charles. Big time playmaker and the star of my fantasy keeper league. Let's hope they shore that oline up and Alex Smith ready to hand off alot. :)

Still Broncos seem poised for an epic run at the Superbowl.

broncosteven
03-13-2013, 06:45 PM
I can't wait to hear this once again.

"Pass to Welker for the the first down...and he dropped it! Welker dropped it! It was right in his hands on a crucial play!"

Hilarious!

Now I get why your such a big kFc fan, You love watching Bowe drop balls or not even try to catch them.

Bowe is being rewarded for being on a 2 win team by getting paid $11.2mill a year for the next 5 years.

Meanwhile we get a guy who avg's about 115 catches, 1250 yards, and 8 TDs a year but your going to focus on one bad pass he couldn't haul in 2 years ago. Get your head out of your ass. kFc has upgraded their 2nd and 3rd team depth and got an accurate short armed QB they gave up way too much compensation for. Good luck with your "Dream Team"!

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2013, 06:50 PM
Now I get why your such a big kFc fan, You love watching Bowe drop balls or not even try to catch them.

Bowe is being rewarded for being on a 2 win team by getting paid $11.2mill a year for the next 5 years.

Meanwhile we get a guy who avg's about 115 catches, 1250 yards, and 8 TDs a year but your going to focus on one bad pass he couldn't haul in 2 years ago. Get your head out of your ass. kFc has upgraded their 2nd and 3rd team depth and got an accurate short armed QB they gave up way too much compensation for. Good luck with your "Dream Team"!



I'd rather he keep his head firmly corked into his ass. It keeps even more poop from being dropped on these pages.

Heyneck
03-13-2013, 06:56 PM
I can't wait to hear this once again.

"Pass to Welker for the the first down...and he dropped it! Welker dropped it! It was right in his hands on a crucial play!"

Hilarious!

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KCStud
03-14-2013, 04:05 AM
Now I get why your such a big kFc fan, You love watching Bowe drop balls or not even try to catch them.

Bowe is being rewarded for being on a 2 win team by getting paid $11.2mill a year for the next 5 years.

Meanwhile we get a guy who avg's about 115 catches, 1250 yards, and 8 TDs a year but your going to focus on one bad pass he couldn't haul in 2 years ago. Get your head out of your ass. kFc has upgraded their 2nd and 3rd team depth and got an accurate short armed QB they gave up way too much compensation for. Good luck with your "Dream Team"!

Good luck with this secondary. You guys can't stop anybody when it matters. Brady and Flacco put up 9 TD's and 660+ yards combined on you. Dayum.

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cutthemdown
03-14-2013, 04:32 AM
Broncos back end will depend on how DRC plays. We got nothing for Porter last yr when we thought he could start. Bailey can still play but not what he once was. Still good enough to start on any team though IMO. So we could have 2 solid corners, a decent 3rd corner in Harris and a not total crap one in Carter. Not sure Broncos weaker then other teams in the AFC. I'd say they have a chance to be way above average on the back end. Still they need safety that can play a lot downs. They don't have enough there right now.

I'd guess Broncos will be bringing in a lot of defenders in the draft. Hopefully they find a starter or two which is a good possibilty because our GM kicks ass.

cutthemdown
03-14-2013, 04:36 AM
I can't wait to hear this once again.

"Pass to Welker for the the first down...and he dropped it! Welker dropped it! It was right in his hands on a crucial play!"

Hilarious!

Almost every WR has some big drops. Just like every CB gets burned. Any fan of football though knows that Welker in the slot for Manning a dream come true. We already had the chemistry build with the outside WR last yr. The TE have some good chemistry with Manning. They probably got better inside on the oline which should help the inside pressure.

It's pretty obvious the Broncos offense is going to be one of the best in the NFL. Great for Welker also because he won't have to carry the whole squad like in NE. Only Atl has maybe more talent at WR.

Bacchus
03-14-2013, 04:51 AM
I can't wait to hear this once again.

"Pass to Welker for the the first down...and he dropped it! Welker dropped it! It was right in his hands on a crucial play!"

Hilarious!

So you come here and try to say that Denver signing Wes Welker to a 2 year $12 million deal is a bad thing? You are such an idiot. Come in with an argument but Welker you caught 118 balls last year and is maybe the greatest slot WR of all time is bad, that is not a good argument. You look like a troll.

Wes Welker got Donnie Avery type money!!! Hilarious!

KCStud
03-14-2013, 05:24 AM
So you come here and try to say that Denver signing Wes Welker to a 2 year $12 million deal is a bad thing? You are such an idiot. Come in with an argument but Welker you caught 118 balls last year and is maybe the greatest slot WR of all time is bad, that is not a good argument. You look like a troll.

Wes Welker got Donnie Avery type money!!! Hilarious!

Pretty decent signing, but Welker was in the perfect system. I think he can be productive, but for how long?

Don't you think it's kind of interesting that Bill Belichik didn't really care if he left?

I think they got tired of his dropped passes. He's screwed them in 2 SB's both against the Giants when he failed to catch passes that hit his hands.

I think the more concerning problem for you guys is the secondary. Champ barely has anything left in the tank and the rest of your secondary doesn't scare anybody.

I think Elway will draft a S with your first pick. Probably try to get the Cyprien kid from Florida International.

Bacchus
03-14-2013, 06:08 AM
Pretty decent signing, but Welker was in the perfect system. I think he can be productive, but for how long?

Don't you think it's kind of interesting that Bill Belichik didn't really care if he left?

I think they got tired of his dropped passes. He's screwed them in 2 SB's both against the Giants when he failed to catch passes that hit his hands.

I think the more concerning problem for you guys is the secondary. Champ barely has anything left in the tank and the rest of your secondary doesn't scare anybody.

I think Elway will draft a S with your first pick. Probably try to get the Cyprien kid from Florida International.

He caught 118 balls last year, he is only 32 years-old, he runs 7 yard patterns and he signed a 2 year contract. I think it is safe to say he won't hit the wall in the next two years.

ColoradoDarin
03-14-2013, 06:13 AM
Man, with every signing, this thread keeps getting better and better.
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Phantom
03-14-2013, 08:06 AM
Speaking of fantasy .... TE total points last year.


1 Graham, Jimmy NOS TE 354
2 Witten, Jason DAL TE 347
3 Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE 336
4 Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE 304
5 Miller, Heath PIT TE 285
6 Olsen, Greg CAR TE 278
7 Myers, Brandon OAK TE 267
8 Pitta, Dennis BAL TE 261
9 Daniels, Owen HOU TE 253
10 Gresham, Jermaine CIN TE 253
11 Bennett, Martellus NYG TE 213
12 Gates, Antonio SDC TE 212
13 Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE 209
14 Finley, Jermichael GBP TE 203
15 Chandler, Scott BUF TE 199
16 Celek, Brent PHI TE 196
17 Kendricks, Lance STL TE 191
18 Davis, Vernon SFO TE 186
19 Lewis, Marcedes JAC TE 186
20 Pettigrew, Brandon DET TE 186
21 Cook, Jared TEN TE 184
22 Hernandez, Aaron NEP TE 176
23 Tamme, Jacob DEN TE 167
24 Watson, Ben CLE TE 167
25 Allen, Dwayne IND TE (R) 162
26 Clark, Dallas TBB TE 159
27 Scheffler, Tony DET TE 145
28 Dreessen, Joel DEN TE 141
29 Fasano, Anthony MIA TE 134
30 Miller, Zach SEA TE 133

Top 7 ???
Hilarious! Nice pickup dork!

Phantom
03-14-2013, 08:12 AM
But I guess it's an upgrade - I thought this guy was supposed to be top 7.

32. Moeaki, Tony KCC TE 124

broncosteven
03-14-2013, 11:43 AM
Good luck with this secondary. You guys can't stop anybody when it matters. Brady and Flacco put up 9 TD's and 660+ yards combined on you. Dayum.

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You know we just got DRC to help shore up the secondary and will likely draft a CB and or S right?

Studesbaker is hitting the bottom of the barrel.

LOL

KCStud
03-14-2013, 12:15 PM
You know we just got DRC to help shore up the secondary and will likely draft a CB and or S right?

Studesbaker is hitting the bottom of the barrel.

LOL

Didn't Elway draft a Safety? How did that work out? Hilarious!

broncosteven
03-14-2013, 01:06 PM
Didn't Elway draft a Safety? How did that work out? Hilarious!

How did it work out for you when kFc pulled off a trade for the QB Before Smith?

What makes you think this one will work out any better?

LOL

KCStud
03-14-2013, 01:47 PM
How did it work out for you when kFc pulled off a trade for the QB Before Smith?

What makes you think this one will work out any better?

LOL

You really just compared Cassel to Smith? Hilarious!

Smith is hands down better than that clown.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-14-2013, 01:58 PM
You really just compared Cassel to Smith? Hilarious!

Smith is hands down better than that clown.

You really need to watch some 49er games.

mwill07
03-14-2013, 02:12 PM
You really just compared Cassel to Smith? Hilarious!

Smith is hands down better than that clown.

Matt Cassel threw for 300 or more yards 3 times in 15 games as a Patriot. Alex smith also threw for 300 or more yards three times...in 77 starts.

Not sure how you can think Smith is hands down better than Cassel.

maven
03-14-2013, 05:17 PM
Not bad. Fasano is a legit top 7 TE in the NFL as well.
Kinda like this avery guy.


You didn't watch one single dolphin game did you, because that's clear from this post.

cutthemdown
03-14-2013, 05:22 PM
You really just compared Cassel to Smith? Hilarious!

Smith is hands down better than that clown.

Doesn't his record when they other team scores some points scare you? I heard he has only won 2 games when opposing offense scores 23 or more points? Thats pretty scary.

I love the move though because Charles is my RB. Seriously Smith with be handing off and dink and dunking all over the place to Charles. I think 2000 all purpose yards in store for him again. Hopefully more tds though. Like go ahead and score a ton vs chargers and raiders etc etc. LOL!

The problem is even a good defense may have trouble keeping manning under 24 points. Well problem for Ried not us. Broncos have improved the oline, the WR and the back end of the defense. Chiefs are going down again they just won't hang with the Broncos.

more then just talent Cheifs have a new coach, with a new qb. It could take a season for them to catch Denver just in terms of routine.

broncosteven
03-14-2013, 06:00 PM
You really just compared Cassel to Smith? Hilarious!

Smith is hands down better than that clown.

Look at Smith's 1st 4 years before he had a team built around him and the best D in the league. Dude was one season away from being a bust. What makes you think he will be able to keep progressing with less receiving options and a terrible OL? Do you guys even have a C and RT yet?

Going to enjoy watching Smith throwing INTS to our Secondary the next couple years, that is if he can get it that deep, he might be throwing them to the DL with his limp arm.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-14-2013, 06:18 PM
This is all you need to know about Alex smith.

Since KCdud hasn't watched many 49er games, here's a summary of why he lost his job.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CGMQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Farticles%2F1 424649-alex-smith-5-weaknesses-that-cost-him-his-job&ei=EHVCUYrdI8PsyQH1rIHABg&usg=AFQjCNHij1OH4GtizuyUsCA_3CSbXREpiw


The saddest part about KCdud is the fact he has to sugarcoat other teams trash. It seems to be on par that KC gobbles up another teams back up trash at the QB position

broncosteven
04-02-2013, 03:59 PM
More proof that kFc over paid for Bowe:

...
Bowe feels no pressure to prove he's worthy of the mega-contract because he's already one of the NFL's finest receivers -- at least in his own eyes.

"Personally, I feel like I'm top five, most definitely," Bowe said to The Kansas City Star on Monday. "My play shows it. Running (with) the ball, blocking, all the (qualities) of a wide receiver, I have. Whatever category people want to put me in, to me I'm always going to be No. 1 on this team, and that's all that matters."

Bowe has padded his numbers in garbage time over the past few seasons, but he deserves credit for producing as a bonafide No. 1 receiver despite erratic quarterback play.

Is he truly a top-five NFL receiver, though?

Respected NFL Films senior producer Greg Cosell rated Johnson, Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, the Carolina Panthers' Steve Smith and A.J. Green as the NFL's five best receivers entering the 2012 season. If Smith drops off that list as he approaches his mid-30s, Bowe hardly would be among the top candidates to replace him.

Next on my list would be Percy Harvin, Julio Jones, Brandon Marshall, Dez Bryant, Demaryius Thomas and Vincent Jackson. It's fair to place Bowe in the third tier with Michael Crabtree, Roddy White, Reggie Wayne and the New York Giants' duo of Hakeem Nicks and Victor Cruz.
More here:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000156499/article/kansas-city-chiefs-dwayne-bowe-im-a-top-five-wr

FearLanier
04-03-2013, 06:00 PM
More proof that kFc over paid for Bowe:

...
Bowe feels no pressure to prove he's worthy of the mega-contract because he's already one of the NFL's finest receivers -- at least in his own eyes.

"Personally, I feel like I'm top five, most definitely," Bowe said to The Kansas City Star on Monday. "My play shows it. Running (with) the ball, blocking, all the (qualities) of a wide receiver, I have. Whatever category people want to put me in, to me I'm always going to be No. 1 on this team, and that's all that matters."

Bowe has padded his numbers in garbage time over the past few seasons, but he deserves credit for producing as a bonafide No. 1 receiver despite erratic quarterback play.

Is he truly a top-five NFL receiver, though?

Respected NFL Films senior producer Greg Cosell rated Johnson, Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, the Carolina Panthers' Steve Smith and A.J. Green as the NFL's five best receivers entering the 2012 season. If Smith drops off that list as he approaches his mid-30s, Bowe hardly would be among the top candidates to replace him.

Next on my list would be Percy Harvin, Julio Jones, Brandon Marshall, Dez Bryant, Demaryius Thomas and Vincent Jackson. It's fair to place Bowe in the third tier with Michael Crabtree, Roddy White, Reggie Wayne and the New York Giants' duo of Hakeem Nicks and Victor Cruz.
More here:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000156499/article/kansas-city-chiefs-dwayne-bowe-im-a-top-five-wr

Well worth overpaying for. He's been the constant on the offense for years.

He's basically getting the same amount of money as Vincent Jackson, which is about right.

The Dolphins are the one's who overpaid. They gave Mike Wallace $60 million. He's not worth that much IMO.