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NickStixx
02-27-2013, 10:29 AM
The KC Chiefs have traded their 2013 2nd round pick to the 49ers for Alex Smith. Thoughts?

Source: Jim Rome

SonOfLe-loLang
02-27-2013, 10:32 AM
They'll probably win more than a game this year>?

ColoradoDarin
02-27-2013, 10:33 AM
2nd round pick el-oh-el

crush17
02-27-2013, 10:34 AM
One 2nd rounder? Great deal for the Chefs IMO

BTW - source?

ColoradoDarin
02-27-2013, 10:36 AM
2nd round pick el-oh-el

Wow, 2nd this year, plus a mid-round pick next year.

Requiem
02-27-2013, 10:36 AM
It's a second rounder plus a conditional pick (2nd to 4th) in next years draft. ADAM SCHEFTER.

WATCH THE MELTDOWN (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=270361&page=200)

socalorado
02-27-2013, 10:38 AM
I like that the chefs had to give up multiple picks and a high one this year. Divisionally speaking. SF is gonna get that much better though, dangit.

NickStixx
02-27-2013, 10:40 AM
One 2nd rounder? Great deal for the Chefs IMO

BTW - source?

Sorry, forgot to put that. I'm listening to Jim Rome right now and he was talking about it. I didn't hear anything about the conditional pick, though I don't doubt it.

IMO that is quite a bit to give up. But he is the best QB available this year as well. Both in the draft and FA. I think he improves their team, but I'm not scared of them.

Bigdawg26
02-27-2013, 10:40 AM
SWEET!! I love this trade!

gyldenlove
02-27-2013, 10:46 AM
Damn, 2nd round pick and another decent pick next year, that is a lot.

bronco militia
02-27-2013, 10:52 AM
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SouthStndJunkie
02-27-2013, 10:53 AM
Max Cady perfectly sums up my reaction to this trade:

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Beantown Bronco
02-27-2013, 10:53 AM
107 post rule

crush17
02-27-2013, 10:54 AM
Anyone who thinks this doesn't make the Chiefs better is fooling themselves.

Matt Cassell is terrible- JV level compared to Smith. He will make that team better.

maven
02-27-2013, 10:54 AM
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bronco militia
02-27-2013, 10:54 AM
Max Cady perfectly sums up my reaction to this trade:

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perfect!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-27-2013, 10:55 AM
Anyone who thinks this doesn't make the Chiefs better is fooling themselves.

Matt Cassell is terrible- JV level compared to Smith. He will make that team better.

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Beantown Bronco
02-27-2013, 10:55 AM
Anyone who thinks this doesn't make the Chiefs better is fooling themselves.

Matt Cassell is terrible- JV level compared to Smith. He will make that team better.

Reverse mojo?

maven
02-27-2013, 10:56 AM
Anyone who thinks this doesn't make the Chiefs better is fooling themselves.

Matt Cassell is terrible- JV level compared to Smith. He will make that team better.

He effin sucks. Good to see the the Chiefs get another backup QB to run the team. Gotta love the Chiefs. What a ****ing sorry ass franchise. A 2nd round pick this year, plus a conditional high pic next year.

Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!

Tombstone RJ
02-27-2013, 11:02 AM
Hilarious!

SouthStndJunkie
02-27-2013, 11:05 AM
Stupid move by Kansas City to make this trade for Alex Smith and put the hopes and expectations of the franchise on his shoulders.

Dude has been nothing but average/below average, outside of the last 1.5 seasons under Jim Harbaugh....and even then Harbaugh recognized that Alex Smith had reached the ceiling of his potential and that it wasn't enough to achieve the level of success he wanted in the present and into the future.

Jim Harbaugh knew Alex Smith had reached his full potential and it wasn't enough for him to be his QB. Harbaugh saw him as a bridge to the start of the Colin Kaepernick era, which started a little earlier than expected after the Alex Smith concussion and subsequent playmaking ability that Colin Kaepernick displayed right off the bat.

Alex Smith has a career completion percentage of 59.3%, which is below average....and pre-Harbaugh it was even worse at 57.1%.

To put that into perspective, 59.3% would have ranked 21st among starting QBs this season, and 57.1% would have ranked 27th among starters. Smith had a great completion percentage last season, but it was a small sample size and was chocked full of dump off and check down passes. San Francisco is chocked full of weapons on offense and Alex Smith never utilized all that talent around him the last few seasons.

Alex Smith also has a career TD/INT ratio of 81/63, which stinks, but was even worse before Jim Harbaugh took over. Pre-Harbaugh his TD/INT ratio was 51/53.

I wouldn't trade a thatch of my ball hairs for Alex Smith.

maven
02-27-2013, 11:07 AM
The Chiefs=dumpster diving at it's finest.

Alex Smith has a concussion, doesn't get his job back, 49ers go with the young kid who takes them to the Super Bowl. Then, the chiefs come in and toss high picks at the backup player. ****ing hilarious.

DBroncos4life
02-27-2013, 11:07 AM
San Fran now has 12 picks in this draft before the comp picks. That team is set up.

crush17
02-27-2013, 11:08 AM
C'mon guys you all know he should be feared.

vancejohnson82
02-27-2013, 11:08 AM
perfect...this should have them treading water for about another 4 years

vancejohnson82
02-27-2013, 11:09 AM
now lets somehow get Sanchez to QB one of the other two franchises

socalorado
02-27-2013, 11:09 AM
I wouldn't trade a thatch of my ball hairs for Alex Smith.

:afro:

POST OF THE DAY.

MagicHef
02-27-2013, 11:09 AM
Harbaugh made Smith look good. His career stats, including the time under Harbaugh, are remarkably similar to Cassel's.

ChiefsPlanet is imploding, and rightly so. Horrible, horrible trade for the Chiefs.

Tombstone RJ
02-27-2013, 11:12 AM
KC traded their second round pick for this guy. And another conditional pick. Talk about being raped.

Jetmeck
02-27-2013, 11:13 AM
They'll probably win more than a game this year>?

maybe 5-6.............this was another typical front office Chief mistake.

Good for us...set the fools back another couple.

There is no way in hell the Chiefs have the players to prop up Alex Smith like SF did..............what a bunch of idiots........

Flex Gunmetal
02-27-2013, 11:17 AM
excellent. they give up too much for a player that could marginally improve their win total by a couple games, leaving them out of the postseason per usual, yet far away from #1 overall.

spiralism
02-27-2013, 11:19 AM
Harbaugh and Baalke absolutely fleeced KC. This sort of **** is why the Niners are elite and KC are in the ****ter. With Albert set to leave, the no.1 pick is going to go on Joeckel to replace him, their #34 pick is gone and the Chiefs will be NO better off than where they started off. Brilliant. Hilarious!

NickStixx
02-27-2013, 11:25 AM
I will say this though... If I am the Chiefs then I am trying to trade the #1 overall pick. Move down a few spots, take Eric Fisher instead of Joeckel, and hopefully get that 2nd round pick back.
Unfortunately in this draft I think that is hard to do... no real standout players.

razorwire77
02-27-2013, 11:28 AM
Hilarious. Yes, Alex Smith will possibly take the Chefs from terrible to 7-9 or 8-8 ish, but in the process they will lose a top 2nd round pick this year. In addition, Smith is good enough to hit whatever escalators in the contract will trigger another 2014 2nd round pick, but certainly not good enough to make the Chefs a contender. Best case, the Chefs might get a 1st round wildcard exit out of the Smith trade.

Niners will absolutely load up in this draft on rotational D-line, CB/and O-line depth and still have picks to take project/high risk/reward players. Very scary team Harbaugh is building.

MagicHef
02-27-2013, 11:30 AM
I will say this though... If I am the Chiefs then I am trying to trade the #1 overall pick. Move down a few spots, take Eric Fisher instead of Joeckel, and hopefully get that 2nd round pick back.
Unfortunately in this draft I think that is hard to do... no real standout players.

I hope they do that. They already have 2 well above average tackles. Using picks 1 and 34 to maybe improve their team marginally is what I hope all our rivals do.

maven
02-27-2013, 11:30 AM
I will say this though... If I am the Chiefs then I am trying to trade the #1 overall pick. Move down a few spots, take Eric Fisher instead of Joeckel, and hopefully get that 2nd round pick back.
Unfortunately in this draft I think that is hard to do... no real standout players.

That has to be the route. But, it takes another team willing to move up. With no star QB's in this draft, what team is going to surrender a bunch of picks to move up?

boltaneer
02-27-2013, 11:36 AM
Typical Chiefs, refusing to groom a QB of their own. I know it's a bad draft for QBs but you can take a chance on one these days with the way rookie contracts are and it won't kill your team like it used to.

Now they're going to be stuck with Smith for a few years minimum. Yeah, he's better than Cassel but marginally better IMO. And not worth what is being reported that they had to give up to get him.

NickStixx
02-27-2013, 11:36 AM
That has to be the route. But, it takes another team willing to move up. With no star QB's in this draft, what team is going to surrender a bunch of picks to move up?

Exactly my thought... It will be hard to do, but I wouldn't count it out.

boltaneer
02-27-2013, 11:37 AM
That has to be the route. But, it takes another team willing to move up. With no star QB's in this draft, what team is going to surrender a bunch of picks to move up?

They're not going to be able to trade that pick unless they sell it for real low value.

NickStixx
02-27-2013, 11:38 AM
I hope they do that. They already have 2 well above average tackles. Using picks 1 and 34 to maybe improve their team marginally is what I hope all our rivals do.

LOL agreed... I didn't think that LT was a huge need for them either. But hey look how good the Dolphins are with Jake Long.... Hilarious!

Punisher
02-27-2013, 11:39 AM
Alex under center? "I got this Reid"

Eldorado
02-27-2013, 11:41 AM
It's a second rounder plus a conditional pick (2nd to 4th) in next years draft. ADAM SCHEFTER.

WATCH THE MELTDOWN (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=270361&page=200)

LOL! That was legitimately fun.

Tim
02-27-2013, 11:41 AM
It's like pioli never left, I bet SF's front office is still high fiving and grinning.

boltaneer
02-27-2013, 11:42 AM
Awww, CP won't even load for me.

Drunken.Broncoholic
02-27-2013, 11:47 AM
Anyone who thinks this doesn't make the Chiefs better is fooling themselves.

Matt Cassell is terrible- JV level compared to Smith. He will make that team better.

49er fans are celebrating like crazy. Being out here in Cali I've been exposed to everything that is red and gold. Alex smith is horrible. He would check down without even going through reads. His accuracy beyond 15 yards is among the worst I've ever seen. He got quite a few coordinators and HCs fired. Harbaugh is one of the best QB evaluators/coaching IMO and he twice looked somewhere else instead of smith. He knows smith can't get it done. KC will soon know too

bronco militia
02-27-2013, 11:54 AM
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socalorado
02-27-2013, 11:57 AM
Go to Chefsplanet.
WOW. JUST WOW.
Angry, insane, total meltdown.

SouthStndJunkie
02-27-2013, 11:59 AM
This proves to me that the buffoonery in Kansas City starts at the very top with Clark Hunt.

I think he's been running the show since 2005.

48-80 overall record during that time.

Only bonafide Kansas City Cuckolds will renew their season tickets this season.

MagicHef
02-27-2013, 12:09 PM
If the Chiefs or Reid liked Alex Smith, they could have signed him last season, giving up no picks.

Natedog24
02-27-2013, 12:16 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEIhOZwCEAA7YUO.jpg:large

:)

FearLanier
02-27-2013, 12:18 PM
Good news: Chiefs will be in playoff mix next year.

Bad news: their ceiling is 1 win playoff win.

Same damn thing as the 90's.

COWheatGrower
02-27-2013, 12:20 PM
Anyone who thinks this doesn't make the Chiefs better is fooling themselves.

Matt Cassell is terrible- JV level compared to Smith. He will make that team better.

You are missing the point.

I think everybody recognizes they are a better team.

The problem with the Queefs is that they have been using retreads for decades and it has gotten them no where in January. Steve DeBerg, Elvis Grbac, Trent Green, Matt Cassel...

The fans wanted so desperately for the franchise to finally gamble and draft a potential franchise QB.

It might be bad for Denver in regular season meetings, but Kansas City isn't doing jack **** in the playoffs. 43 years and counting is music to my ears!

Kaylore
02-27-2013, 12:22 PM
This makes sense. Andy Reid is very good at making QB's look better than they really are. See what he did with Kolb, Vick even McNabb. And all things being equal, he's an upgrade over Cassel. I still think they draft someone.

MagicHef
02-27-2013, 12:28 PM
Good news: Chiefs will be in playoff mix next year.

Bad news: their ceiling is 1 win playoff win.

Same damn thing as the 90's.

Ha, no. KC does not have SF's defense, OL, or receivers. KC will win 4-7 games and will have a nice battle to avoid the AFCW cellar.

Rabb
02-27-2013, 12:30 PM
Ha, no. KC does not have SF's defense, OL, or receivers. KC will win 4-7 games and will have a nice battle to avoid the AFCW cellar.

Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, etc.

MagicHef
02-27-2013, 12:33 PM
This makes sense. Andy Reid is very good at making QB's look better than they really are. See what he did with Kolb, Vick even McNabb. And all things being equal, he's an upgrade over Cassel. I still think they draft someone.

It doesn't even make sense. Reid loves the deep ball. Alex Smith's biggest weakness is his deep ball. He is the definition of game manager, which Reid has never gone for before.

FearLanier
02-27-2013, 12:34 PM
Ha, no. KC does not have SF's defense, OL, or receivers. KC will win 4-7 games and will have a nice battle to avoid the AFCW cellar.

Idk the Chiefs play some awful teams next year. Titans, Browns, Eagles, Jags, Bills, Raiders 2X.

spdirty
02-27-2013, 12:36 PM
LOL man they're pissed.

MagicHef
02-27-2013, 12:38 PM
Idk the Chiefs play some awful teams next year. Titans, Browns, Eagles, Jags, Bills, Raiders 2X.

In case you forgot, the Chiefs are an awful team. They were before this trade, and they still are.

Dexter
02-27-2013, 12:46 PM
More mediocrity for the chiefs. They'll be decent, but won't get past the first round with A. Smith.

What a bad year to have the #1 pick. Their only option is one of the OTs, or Chance Warmack. Anyone else would be a huge gamble. Dee Millner may not be a bad option though.

boltaneer
02-27-2013, 12:48 PM
Who is Alex Smith going to throw to?

MagicHef
02-27-2013, 12:54 PM
Who is Alex Smith going to throw to?

Either the checkdown or the defense, just like in SF.

FearLanier
02-27-2013, 12:59 PM
In case you forgot, the Chiefs are an awful team. They were before this trade, and they still are.

I'd take our current staff and personnel over those teams.

That's how bad they are though. Pretty damn bad. We'll have to see after the draft though.

CEH
02-27-2013, 01:01 PM
Go to Chefsplanet.
WOW. JUST WOW.
Angry, insane, total meltdown.

If a messageboard is melting down it probably will turn out OK for the Chiefs

Atwater His Ass
02-27-2013, 01:01 PM
I think this is a good move for KC. Smith is better than Cassell. This move doesn't preclude KC from still drafting a QB this year and grooming him while Smith provides some stability with Reid coaching him up much like Harbaugh did.

A 2nd and mid round pick for a starting QB is not a high price to pay.

Drunken.Broncoholic
02-27-2013, 01:02 PM
Ha, no. KC does not have SF's defense, OL, or receivers. KC will win 4-7 games and will have a nice battle to avoid the AFCW cellar.

This. Most importantly KC doesn't have Harbaugh. How did smith look pre Harbaugh? To give a 2nd rounder and another 2014 pick is insane. It shows how desperate a team is in an offseason of crap QBs. Over paying

gunns
02-27-2013, 01:04 PM
Anyone who thinks this doesn't make the Chiefs better is fooling themselves.

Matt Cassell is terrible- JV level compared to Smith. He will make that team better.

I agree he will make them better but considering how bad they were, better is relative. I still see no reason to fear them.

yerner
02-27-2013, 01:11 PM
this is fantastic.

g6matty
02-27-2013, 01:11 PM
broncos record as of now :::: 2-0

MagicHef
02-27-2013, 01:12 PM
I think this is a good move for KC. Smith is better than Cassell. This move doesn't preclude KC from still drafting a QB this year and grooming him while Smith provides some stability with Reid coaching him up much like Harbaugh did.

A 2nd and mid round pick for a starting QB is not a high price to pay.

Really?

Matt Cassel - 58.9 completion %, 13,495 yards, 82 TD, 57 INT, 24 Fumbles, 80.4 Passer Rating

Alex Smith - 59.3 completion %, 14,280 yards, 81 TD, 63 INT, 36 Fumbles, 79.1 Passer Rating

boltaneer
02-27-2013, 01:16 PM
I think this is a good move for KC. Smith is better than Cassell. This move doesn't preclude KC from still drafting a QB this year and grooming him while Smith provides some stability with Reid coaching him up much like Harbaugh did.

A 2nd and mid round pick for a starting QB is not a high price to pay.

His new contract will be a pretty price to pay. They can still draft a QB to groom but Smith isn't going to sit on the bench next year with a $50+ million contract. They're going to be stuck with him for a few years.

Drunken.Broncoholic
02-27-2013, 01:18 PM
Reid coaching him up like Harbaugh? Ha! take a look at Reid's resume coaching up QBs. Not a good look. Guys like feeley detmer and Kolb were really coached up

yerner
02-27-2013, 01:19 PM
I mean, it's like Christmas has come again. Andy Reid and Alex Smith all in one offseason.

Rolandftw
02-27-2013, 01:21 PM
KC will be better, but still hard to see them going far with Alex Smith and the rest of their personnel. They're probably a 6-8 win team next year.

Drunken.Broncoholic
02-27-2013, 01:23 PM
Saying they will be a better team gets watered down by picking number 1 in the draft this year. Rock bottom worst in the league. So if they go 3-13 that can be labeled as better too

boltaneer
02-27-2013, 01:36 PM
Saying they will be a better team gets watered down by picking number 1 in the draft this year. Rock bottom worst in the league. So if they go 3-13 that can be labeled as better too

Spot on. This is a lateral and even backwards move if you consider the compensation they'll be giving up.

NFLBRONCO
02-27-2013, 01:42 PM
Spot on. This is a lateral and even backwards move if you consider the compensation they'll be giving up.

I hope KC sucks but, imo they can vastly improve if they get anything out of Smith. They are going from Cassell/Quinn hardly a high bar set here

Bigdawg26
02-27-2013, 01:48 PM
Good news: Chiefs will be in playoff mix next year.

Bad news: their ceiling is 1 win playoff win.

Same damn thing as the 90's.

And why will the Chiefs be in the playoff hunt with Alex Smith??

Lycan
02-27-2013, 01:50 PM
They gave up the #2 second round pick plus a pick next year?

They essentially just drafted Alex Smith in the first round. Why would you do that?

boltaneer
02-27-2013, 01:53 PM
I hope KC sucks but, imo they can vastly improve if they get anything out of Smith. They are going from Cassell/Quinn hardly a high bar set here

Vastly improve off a two win season equals what? Five wins? Six wins?

Where does it leave them three years from now when they decide to cut ties with Smith and miss out on the players they could have drafted with him?

TheReverend
02-27-2013, 01:56 PM
I haven't posted in this thread before now because I've spent the last half a day laughing too hard to type.

Tombstone RJ
02-27-2013, 02:03 PM
I'd have more respect for kc if they just took Geno Smith with the #1 pick. This really is a stupid move. If they want Alex Smith, fine. But you don't give up the #34 pick, and a conditional to get him.

You give up maybe a 4th round pick but more like a 5th. Then you draft a QB in the first two rounds of this coming draft.

There's other vets that can come in and do what Alex Smith does and they wouldn't cost anything in trades. They could have brought in Matt Moore, paid him $7m a year for a few years and be just as good. Plus, they could be developing another QB... head scratcher.

But I think this is a case where HC just thinks he's smarter than everyone else. It happens...

broncosteven
02-27-2013, 02:14 PM
The Chiefs=dumpster diving at it's finest.

Alex Smith has a concussion, doesn't get his job back, 49ers go with the young kid who takes them to the Super Bowl. Then, the chiefs come in and toss high picks at the backup player. ****ing hilarious.

Vintage kFc move, shades of Steve Bono!

broncosteven
02-27-2013, 02:21 PM
And why will the Chiefs be in the playoff hunt with Alex Smith??

Because they all think they are one player away from greatness, even though they need a new OL, couple DT's, Couple WR's, A safety, a CB or 2 among other things.

Fact is their D let them down just as much as their poor QB play did last year. It was ultimate team fail. Grabbing a game manger who protects the ball in a dink and dunk system is just going to bring D's up to the line and put more guys in the box. I bet this hurts Charles more than helps him. They have no deep threats and Smith is not known as a deep passer.

I am so glad kFc made this move because:
1) They gave up way too much for him
2) The Steve Bono/Montana connection
3) They lost a high second round pick that could have been an impact player.
4) They are going to draft a LT 1st over all and let Brandon walk which doesn't make them any better. They will tread water. I don't expect them to win more than 8 games, probably be closer to 6.

Tombstone RJ
02-27-2013, 02:26 PM
If kc lets Bowe walk then this will be super delicious icing on a cake-and-boobs type of cake.

Requiem
02-27-2013, 02:27 PM
Here are my real thoughts on this:

I think that Andy Reid can do a fine job identifying QB talent and developing it. He has been able to make some things happen with McNabb, Kolb, Vick, Foles, etc. and make it work. I just don't understand why they went for a QB who is marginal on the deep ball at best when it is a cornerstone of Reid's passing offense.

Furthermore, I do not see why they felt the need to trade a premier pick (which is what that early pick in the second round is) plus a conditional choice next year for Alex Smith. They must have not liked what they saw on tape from the rookie QB class this year. That is the only way I can see how they justify making this move. Weren't there better FA options? Why not nab a stop-gap there and draft a dude to develop this year if you are unwilling to burn your #1 on Geno, etc.?

KC is so full of fail.

cmhargrove
02-27-2013, 02:28 PM
This just made my day...

pricejj
02-27-2013, 02:37 PM
Wasn't San Fran probably going to cut Alex Smith in a couple weeks anyways? He was due about $10M this year in San Fran.

Rother8
02-27-2013, 02:44 PM
Matt Cassel wasn't good enough, so they got Matt Cassel 1.5. Nice

Mr.Meanie
02-27-2013, 02:52 PM
From that Chiefs planet site:

I now know what Brandon Flowers 'It's been real, KC' tweet was about. He knows we're about to burn this city to the ground.

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cutthemdown
02-27-2013, 02:57 PM
i told you all he would get that 2nd round pick!

cutthemdown
02-27-2013, 03:00 PM
Wow we get Manning for nothing and they give up picks for Alex Smith.

spdirty
02-27-2013, 03:11 PM
Only thing that would make this better is if Geno goes to an NFC team like the Cardinals and just tears it up. And the 49ers get an impact player with that pick. And Alex Smith goes back to being pre-Harbaugh Alex Smith. Although that won't happen since Reid is a good QB coach.

Requiem
02-27-2013, 03:40 PM
Vontae Davis tweeted FA Sean Smith (CB, Miami) has been talking to KC and could go there.

CEH
02-27-2013, 03:48 PM
Montana , Grabc, Bono and now Smith. SF trash is KC's treasure

ludo21
02-27-2013, 03:58 PM
Let the streak continue!!!!

A KC draft pick QB has not won a GAME since 1983.....

bwahahahaahahahahaahahah

NickStixx
02-27-2013, 04:03 PM
It's just great that they are melting down in KC... hahahahaha!

SonOfLe-loLang
02-27-2013, 04:06 PM
Let the streak continue!!!!

A KC draft pick QB has not won a GAME since 1983.....

bwahahahaahahahahaahahah

well since 87

oubronco
02-27-2013, 04:07 PM
It's a second rounder plus a conditional pick (2nd to 4th) in next years draft. ADAM SCHEFTER.

WATCH THE MELTDOWN (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=270361&page=200)

**** this franchise. **** the Chiefs, I can't take this **** anymore

Hilarious!

Lestat
02-27-2013, 04:41 PM
they essentially traded 2 2nds for him. which is damn near multiple firsts for them since they were so bad this past season and likely won't improve a ton this year.

FearLanier
02-27-2013, 05:17 PM
You've gotta think Andy Reid looked at this QB class at the combine and just shook his head with disgust.

boppool
02-27-2013, 05:17 PM
I think this is a good move for KC. Smith is better than Cassell. This move doesn't preclude KC from still drafting a QB this year and grooming him while Smith provides some stability with Reid coaching him up much like Harbaugh did.

A 2nd and mid round pick for a starting QB is not a high price to pay.

You do realize Chiefs' 2nd is basically a low first round, right? Also, 2014 pick could go as high as a 2nd, which could be close to this year's.

Niners raped Chorfs without lubing. :giggle:

Drunken.Broncoholic
02-27-2013, 05:22 PM
You've gotta think Andy Reid looked at this QB class at the combine and just shook his head with disgust.

That's pretty much it. A bad year if QB is the need. That's how over paying for someone can bite you in the ass

Archer81
02-27-2013, 05:25 PM
Reading the chiefs fan page is painful. Funny, but painful.


:Broncos:

broncosteven
02-27-2013, 05:29 PM
You've gotta think Andy Reid looked at this QB class at the combine and just shook his head with disgust.

but Geno Smith was going to win you guys a SB this year!

Smith will be able to run his offense and dink and dunk it. It is funny to see that he actually has more INT's than Cassel does for his career.

It is also funny that kFc could have signed him last year and kept their high picks.

He will be able to do enough to keep kFc in games but without an OL and a D that can come up with more stops you guys are looking at a 6 win season if your lucky.

Think about it, you are going to be forced to use your 1st over all pick on an OT, they will likely let Albert walk rather than pay him. So you lose a Vet. Push if not a loss because the rook is unknown.

You don't have a 2nd round pick. kFc needs a C and G so likely in the 3rd or 4th they need to draft OL again. They are desperate at WR where the 2nd round pick would have been nice. They have a need at DT so there is a pick, They need a Safety and at least one CB as well as a KR.

Wasting those 1st 2 picks is going hurt in the long run.

FearLanier
02-27-2013, 05:35 PM
but Geno Smith was going to win you guys a SB this year!

Smith will be able to run his offense and dink and dunk it. It is funny to see that he actually has more INT's than Cassel does for his career.

It is also funny that kFc could have signed him last year and kept their high picks.

He will be able to do enough to keep kFc in games but without an OL and a D that can come up with more stops you guys are looking at a 6 win season if your lucky.

Think about it, you are going to be forced to use your 1st over all pick on an OT, they will likely let Albert walk rather than pay him. So you lose a Vet. Push if not a loss because the rook is unknown.

You don't have a 2nd round pick. kFc needs a C and G so likely in the 3rd or 4th they need to draft OL again. They are desperate at WR where the 2nd round pick would have been nice. They have a need at DT so there is a pick, They need a Safety and at least one CB as well as a KR.

Wasting those 1st 2 picks is going hurt in the long run.

You're acting like Branden Albert is gone already.

The Chiefs have been speaking with Branden Albert. It is reported that they are working on something.

I won't believe Albert is gone until I see it happen.

Br0nc0Buster
02-27-2013, 05:45 PM
I have no idea what the KC front office is thinking

Obviously this has Reid written all over it

They probably could gotten Orton or Matt Moore for a fraction of what they gave up for Smith

This is the Matt Cassel situation all over again

the 34th overall pick in the draft and a conditional pick next year(I read it is a 3rd that could turn into a 2nd) for a mediocre qb is horrible value

I get that this draft class is poor with qb talent, but that doesnt mean you give up premium picks for another team's backup

Lestat
02-27-2013, 05:50 PM
You've gotta think Andy Reid looked at this QB class at the combine and just shook his head with disgust.

i think he realized that every QB in this draft is gonna need 2-3 years to develop and may as well draft a Tyler Bray in the 3rd or 4th and take your chances than use a 1st on a potential Sanchez.

Bacchus
02-27-2013, 05:55 PM
You're acting like Branden Albert is gone already.

The Chiefs have been speaking with Branden Albert. It is reported that they are working on something.

I won't believe Albert is gone until I see it happen.

They have been calling Albert but he has not been able to get out of bed to return their call because of his bad back. Suck it Chiefs!!!

cutthemdown
02-27-2013, 06:22 PM
This was my favorite post in the KCplanet thread.


Hey Andy Reid......got anymore other kids that can die?


LOL AND YOU GUYS SAY I AM BAD! at least i am trying to be funny most of the time lol. Holy cow welcome to KC Reid.

cutthemdown
02-27-2013, 06:25 PM
Since Albert not really the huge problem on the KC offense, and they traded the 2nd round pick, if they then draft a LT first round it doesn't really seem like they will be able to get much better on offense.

If they tag Bowe they have Charles and Bowe but a medicore QB to get them the ball.

Having to give up the 2nd round pick was huge. Had it been the 3rd round pick then win for Queefs. But it was the 2nd rounder and now you can't really improve the team that much. Throw in FA don't want to sign in KC and it could be overpaying time for them.

KipCorrington25
02-27-2013, 06:28 PM
They love their game managers in KC this is about 40 years of them so far.

extralife
02-27-2013, 07:18 PM
On the plus side, KC fans, the Broncos didn't have to give up any picks for Peyton Manning.

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

razorwire77
02-27-2013, 07:24 PM
I actually feel sorry for Chef fans. There, I said it. Not only did they burn what's essentially a low 1st round pick and another high round pick in 2014 for captain tiny hands, but in doing so, they'll have just enough success with him to ensure another 4 or 5 years of poor QB play. Hell, they gave Matt Cassel 4 years and Alex Smith is ****ing prime Warren Moon compared to that.

FearLanier
02-27-2013, 08:05 PM
Great news for Chiefs

ProFootballCentral ‏@PFCentral
Bowe Loves Alex Smith Trade: Kansas City Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe was very happy to hear of the Alex Smith trade and... http://wp.me/pcQbV-2bn

Signing Bowe would be huge. That means we can tag Albert and get that 2nd round pick back if we lose him.

BroncsCheer
02-27-2013, 08:06 PM
It's a second rounder plus a conditional pick (2nd to 4th) in next years draft. ADAM SCHEFTER.

WATCH THE MELTDOWN (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=270361&page=200)

It's delicious!

spdirty
02-27-2013, 08:29 PM
Some awesome reactions to the news that Matt Cassel is going to get cut.


Only the Chiefs would make a QB move that makes me get zero enjoyment out of cutting Cassel.

I didn't think anything could dampen my joy at the news of Cassel being cut. Boy was I wrong.

Why cut Cassel he had "ONE" good season like Alex.


Should keep Cassel and saved our 2nd rounder

Cassel isn't getting cut. We're giving him a different jersey.

Why are we cutting him? Shouldn't we be able to trade him for a few second rounders now that Andy has set the <nobr>market (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=270486&page=2#)</nobr>?


Meet the new bum. Same as the old bum.
We won't be fooled again.

Nope-we just traded for his clone. Rot in Hell, Clark.


This should make me happy but I really could give a **** now with Alex Smiff on the team that just kills the mood.

Am I the only one who believes Kyle Orton is better than Alex Smith?

I love how nobody cares. All that b****ing over the past 4 years and this is it?

Man **** this franchise. I hate that I can't stop being a fan in moments like this. It's like I just keep coming back for that hit of meth even though I know it's going to make me feel like **** and make the rest of my teeth fall out.

Clark treats this team and its fans like the rubes they are: fools to be soaked of their money. He stepped in and fired ***** because of attendance. The record didn't matter to Hunt, the consequence of the record (fewer ST sales, concessions, etc) did. The man doesn't care about winning and that's obviously noted by the fact that he never takes risks to win. The target for this organization is 8-8 because they know that if they hover around that mark they don't have to spend much money and money will flow in from desperate, deluded fans who hope for a chance.

Some companies invest in their products by spending more money to make them with the best materials possible. Others cut corners at every turn to save money and create a perception of value that isn't really there.

This is the Wal-Mart of professional football teams.

bowtown
02-27-2013, 08:32 PM
Great news for Chiefs

ProFootballCentral ‏@PFCentral
Bowe Loves Alex Smith Trade: Kansas City Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe was very happy to hear of the Alex Smith trade and... http://wp.me/pcQbV-2bn

Signing Bowe would be huge. That means we can tag Albert and get that 2nd round pick back if we lose him.

You really just buy into anything they put in print, hook, line and sinker, huh?

You know the only thing Bowe likes more than Smith? Million dollar bills. He's going to whoever hands out more of them.

BroncsCheer
02-27-2013, 08:36 PM
Some awesome reactions to the news that Matt Cassel is going to get cut.

How perfectly apropos is that next to the last one?

Br0nc0Buster
02-27-2013, 09:13 PM
How perfectly apropos is that next to the last one?

yeah sounds like he is speaking from personal experience

Archer81
02-27-2013, 09:23 PM
Considering the earth shattering events Broncos QB changes have been for the last decade, you cannot take too much enjoyment from chief fans going through the same thing.

Even when they deserve it.

:Broncos:

spdirty
02-27-2013, 09:37 PM
Considering the earth shattering events Broncos QB changes have been for the last decade, you cannot take too much enjoyment from chief fans going through the same thing.

Even when they deserve it.

:Broncos:

I can. **** em.

Archer81
02-27-2013, 09:39 PM
I can. **** em.


Ha!

Its odd to see division teams suffer coaching and personnel changes when our favorite team recently suffered the same thing. Its like a twisted apathy. Like oh...how bad for you? Uhh...get off my porch.

:Broncos:

bronco militia
02-27-2013, 09:52 PM
Max Cady perfectly sums up my reaction to this trade:

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QFT LOL

Bob's your Information Minister
02-27-2013, 09:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/XThLo5a.jpg

Archer81
02-27-2013, 09:54 PM
http://i.imgur.com/XThLo5a.jpg


How can you stand to be a fan of a football team that last won a world championship before you were born?


:Broncos:

Bob's your Information Minister
02-27-2013, 10:07 PM
I don't have anything better to do.

Bob's your Information Minister
02-27-2013, 10:09 PM
I endured Bono, Grbac, Herm and Cassel, I can endure this.

spdirty
02-27-2013, 10:23 PM
LOL CP is so much fun right now.

Clark Hunt is like that owner in your fantasy league that gets trade raped repeatedly but keeps paying their annual fees to participate. The league loves that guy. But the fantasy owner doesn't have fans that bear the brunt of the abuse.

I am curious what the Donks on other boards think about this trade. I assume they think it's ****ing hilarious, and are only too pleased that we're getting beaten down by fate yet again. But hey, I could be wrong. Maybe some of them feel pity.

DENVERDUI55
02-27-2013, 10:28 PM
Wow this is such an awful trade for KC. This made my day and pretty much means KC won't get another QB til 3rd round unless they trade away more picks.

Bacchus
02-27-2013, 10:57 PM
I went over there to pile on and it is so bad I could not even get any negative reps from anyone, they all agreed with me.

MagicHef
02-27-2013, 11:17 PM
I honestly feel sorry for Chiefs fans. The whole banner flying thing was pretty cool, and they actually got what they wanted, as far as Pioli goes. Then, they get this? Ouch.

Taco John
02-27-2013, 11:24 PM
Wow. This is one of the worst moves I can ever remember seeing in professional sports, ever.

Bob's your Information Minister
02-27-2013, 11:25 PM
Wow. This is one of the worst moves I can ever remember seeing in professional sports, ever.

And the worst part is going to be Geno in Silver and Black.

Taco John
02-27-2013, 11:37 PM
Actually - I want to reserve judgement on this move until I see the Chiefs draft. If you guys draft a QB to bring up behind Alex Smith, then it might actually be a decent move.

Bob's your Information Minister
02-28-2013, 12:33 AM
So we're going to pick a QB at 1.1? I doubt it.

Picking a QB in the third is dubious at best.

Unless something shocking takes place and we pick a QB in the 1st....

Bob's your Information Minister
02-28-2013, 12:34 AM
We'll know what the Chiefs are doing in the 1st round by the Branden Albert situation. If he's re-signed, I'll hold out a smidge of hope for Geno or Barkley.

If not, welcome to KC Luke Joeckel and a bunch of misery.

boltaneer
02-28-2013, 01:12 AM
With rookie contracts not being crippling to franchises like they used to, I don't understand why the Chiefs just don't roll the dice with Geno. If he flops, you can draft again in a year or two and it won't devastate their team. They're going to be in the same situation anyway in a couple of years with Alex Smith. But it would be cheaper and they'd have those extra draft picks to build the team around a young QB.

cutthemdown
02-28-2013, 01:24 AM
I endured Bono, Grbac, Herm and Cassel, I can endure this.

You're like that character in Monty Python who saw the best even after having arms and legs cuts off.

Lycan
02-28-2013, 01:43 AM
You're like that character in Monty Python who saw the best even after having arms and legs cuts off.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxpkvxzQKo1qmhz1bo1_500.gif

kappys
02-28-2013, 03:25 AM
With rookie contracts not being crippling to franchises like they used to, I don't understand why the Chiefs just don't roll the dice with Geno. If he flops, you can draft again in a year or two and it won't devastate their team. They're going to be in the same situation anyway in a couple of years with Alex Smith. But it would be cheaper and they'd have those extra draft picks to build the team around a young QB.

Exactly. Or just take a flyer with your second pick on a QB(and save next years pick) - sure it might suck but it wouldn't be any worse than this year and the fans would forgive another bad season if it meant progress towards finding a proper QB. At least they would get some hope for a few games rather than a retread.

FearLanier
02-28-2013, 05:39 AM
In this draft I don't know that the 1st round is better than the 3rd round in terms of QB.

And the Raiders want Geno? That is a warning sign in itself for me.

I'm not worried about them getting him at all. They'll ruin him.

Bronco X
02-28-2013, 06:40 AM
Andy Reid and Alex Smith don't make the Chiefs a playoff team, but they probably make that game in KC tougher... and they are tough even when (or if) the Chiefs are bottom feeding.

fontaine
02-28-2013, 07:24 AM
Actually - I want to reserve judgement on this move until I see the Chiefs draft. If you guys draft a QB to bring up behind Alex Smith, then it might actually be a decent move.

Why? How does drafting a QB in a down class somehow turn spending two high picks for a game manager QB into anything more than the sideways move it is?

The smart play was to make a move last year when guys like Tannehill, Wilson, Flynn, Manning, Foles etc were within reach.

Except they went with the awesomeness that is Dontari Poe.

Alex Smith is just a more durable Kyle Orton. Having said that, I HOPE the chefs draft a QB this year since it'll just make them waste even more time trying that guy out after Smith does little.

NickStixx
02-28-2013, 07:29 AM
And the worst part is going to be Geno in Silver and Black.

LOL really? I HOPE the Faiders take Geno... He isn't anything special... That would be a waste of the #3 overall pick.

Dedhed
02-28-2013, 08:49 AM
Anyone who thinks this doesn't make the Chiefs better is fooling themselves.

Matt Cassell is terrible- JV level compared to Smith. He will make that team better.
I, frankly, don't see the upgrade here, Smith has underperformed most of his career until he acquired a great supporting cast and a great QB coach.

He doesn't have any of that in KC, and I expect he'll be the mediocre-to-poor version of Alex Smith that he was prior to Harbaugh getting to SF.

DENVERDUI55
02-28-2013, 09:27 AM
I love how the queefs keep doing samething over and over and expect different results.

Kaylore
02-28-2013, 09:38 AM
I love how the queefs keep doing samething over and over and expect different results.

Well Joe Montana wasn't a bad call. However Alex Smith is not Joe cool...

Requiem
02-28-2013, 09:48 AM
There is speculation from some reputable draft guru's and people in Twitter land and on various websites that the Chiefs made the trade for Alex Smith because they feel like they have potential suitors for #1 overall. If that is true, they could get back some of what they gave up. Problem is, who is going to move up to #1 in this draft? That is the only way they can salvage the mess they just made.

bronco militia
02-28-2013, 10:07 AM
Well Joe Montana wasn't a bad call. However _______ is not Joe cool...



fill in the blank :giggle:

ColoradoDarin
02-28-2013, 10:31 AM
2nd and another mid pick for Alex Smith is like paying $10000 to upgrade your 32 inch CRT TV to a 37 inch flat screen. Yes it's an upgrade. No, it's not that much of an upgrade considering the cost.

Bacchus
02-28-2013, 10:44 AM
There is speculation from some reputable draft guru's and people in Twitter land and on various websites that the Chiefs made the trade for Alex Smith because they feel like they have potential suitors for #1 overall. If that is true, they could get back some of what they gave up. Problem is, who is going to move up to #1 in this draft? That is the only way they can salvage the mess they just made.

It is easy to move up these days with the rookie salary cap. Teams no longer have to shell out $30 million bonuses.

CEH
02-28-2013, 10:58 AM
So you have a team with 6 pro bowlers, the #5 rushing attack in the NFL , many solid defensive players and no QB plus the first pick in teh draft


Who can get get with the first pick or your 2nd round pick that will come in and be better in Reid's WCO than Smith this year and next.

Atleast with Smith you have a good WCO QB who will not turn the ball over and with a solid rushing attack can win games. Will he win shootouts no but he can win the occasional shootout like the SF playoff game with NO

I think KC will be a major contender this year in the AFCW

SonOfLe-loLang
02-28-2013, 11:25 AM
So you have a team with 6 pro bowlers, the #5 rushing attack in the NFL , many solid defensive players and no QB plus the first pick in teh draft


Who can get get with the first pick or your 2nd round pick that will come in and be better in Reid's WCO than Smith this year and next.

Atleast with Smith you have a good WCO QB who will not turn the ball over and with a solid rushing attack can win games. Will he win shootouts no but he can win the occasional shootout like the SF playoff game with NO

I think KC will be a major contender this year in the AFCW

No, assuming we stay healthy, we should run away with the division. Much like the Colts did year after year.

FearLanier
02-28-2013, 11:48 AM
The buzz in KC is that Reid and Dorsey know that there is quite a bit of interest in the 1st overall pick.

From what I've heard, the Raiders, Eagles and Browns all love Geno Smith.

I can see a situation where we trade to 4 with the Eagles and pick up a draft pick, still get a great player, and get the chance to screw the Raiders over.

I'd love that if it happened.

BroncoBeavis
02-28-2013, 11:54 AM
I, frankly, don't see the upgrade here, Smith has underperformed most of his career until he acquired a great supporting cast and a great QB coach.

Well that kinda cuts both ways. SF was garbage with or without Smith up until last year (when Smith was reborn under JH). I don't think anyone thinks he's the kind of guy that will make a garbage team competitive. But there's only 3 or 4 of those guys in the league.

Tombstone RJ
02-28-2013, 11:56 AM
I doubt there's much interest in trading up to the #1 pick of the draft but ok.

Pick Six
02-28-2013, 12:13 PM
The buzz in KC is that Reid and Dorsey know that there is quite a bit of interest in the 1st overall pick.

From what I've heard, the Raiders, Eagles and Browns all love Geno Smith.

I can see a situation where we trade to 4 with the Eagles and pick up a draft pick, still get a great player, and get the chance to screw the Raiders over.

I'd love that if it happened.

If the Chiefs trade down, and recover that second-round pick, this actually might work for them. I think that the second round is where the true draft value is going to be. Losing the second-round pick is the reason why this deal makes no sense...

broncosteven
02-28-2013, 12:16 PM
The buzz in KC is that Reid and Dorsey know that there is quite a bit of interest in the 1st overall pick.

From what I've heard, the Raiders, Eagles and Browns all love Geno Smith.

I can see a situation where we trade to 4 with the Eagles and pick up a draft pick, still get a great player, and get the chance to screw the Raiders over.

I'd love that if it happened.

Everything I have heard on NFL live and the sports writers say that the QB's won't go until the end of the 1st or early 2nd. I do not think a qb will go #1 overall this year, unless the Browns get antsy I don't see a QB going top 5 or even 10 this year.

Oakland said they are going to restructure Palmer and put in packages for that kid they got in the supplemental draft. The Eagles redid Vick's deal and they have Foals. Browns would be the only team I could see taking a QB high and I bet even they try to drop a couple slots to get him.

It would be funny to see Smith go 1st overall then do well for another team for 16 years though! LOL

I could see kFc trying to trade down a couple slots and getting maybe the 2nd or 3rd best OT and trying to get a 2nd or 3 back to make up for the trade loss. I think at this point they should take the guy they want rather than settle for what is left over if they trade down.

Tombstone RJ
02-28-2013, 12:25 PM
I doubt the Browns trade up to the #1 for a QB. They don't need a LT either. So who else is worth it to trade up to the #1 spot?

Ok, I'll play devil's advocate and say that kc does find a trading partner. If they do manage to trade down, no one is going to give them much in trade, that is, it's not going to be an RG3/Skins type of trade. They will probably swap firsts, and pick up an additional pick like a second, and then what else? If the strength of this draft is in the 2nd-3rd round, do you honestly think other teams are going to give those picks up in trade?

mwill07
02-28-2013, 12:27 PM
In 77 career starts, Alex Smith has thrown for 300 yards exactly three times.

He has shown that he can win games...when coupled with a top 5 defense.

FearLanier
02-28-2013, 12:48 PM
I doubt the Browns trade up to the #1 for a QB. They don't need a LT either. So who else is worth it to trade up to the #1 spot?

Ok, I'll play devil's advocate and say that kc does find a trading partner. If they do manage to trade down, no one is going to give them much in trade, that is, it's not going to be an RG3/Skins type of trade. They will probably swap firsts, and pick up an additional pick like a second, and then what else? If the strength of this draft is in the 2nd-3rd round, do you honestly think other teams are going to give those picks up in trade?

I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills wanted to trade up. Their owner did come out and say that they want their QB and they'll trade up to do it.

DENVERDUI55
02-28-2013, 01:25 PM
There is speculation from some reputable draft guru's and people in Twitter land and on various websites that the Chiefs made the trade for Alex Smith because they feel like they have potential suitors for #1 overall. If that is true, they could get back some of what they gave up. Problem is, who is going to move up to #1 in this draft? That is the only way they can salvage the mess they just made.

That is just to quiet the fans down in my opinion.

boltaneer
02-28-2013, 01:27 PM
I'm really hoping that the Bills want to trade up. Their owner did come out and say that they want their QB and they'll trade up to do it.

Fixed that for you.

I'd be shocked if anyone traded for the #1 pick this year. But then again, I was shocked to see a team giving up a 2nd round pick (much less two!) for Alex Smith.

maven
02-28-2013, 01:36 PM
There is speculation from some reputable draft guru's and people in Twitter land and on various websites that the Chiefs made the trade for Alex Smith because they feel like they have potential suitors for #1 overall. If that is true, they could get back some of what they gave up. Problem is, who is going to move up to #1 in this draft? That is the only way they can salvage the mess they just made.

I think that is the case. I'm sure some teams have had discussions with them already about moving up and floated numbers. I will say I do not expect compensation to be near what Washington gave up last year to move up. But, some GM might fall in love with a player(and trying to save their job) and pony up the picks. We will see how much the Chiefs get. The Chiefs with Dorsey/Reid are in KC for the long haul. All it takes is one desperate team to move up.

gyldenlove
02-28-2013, 01:43 PM
I can't see any teams than the Bills, Cardinals or Jets who would draft QB in round 1 and they draft 7, 8 and 9. If Matt Flynn, Matt Cassel or any other backup quality QB is moved between now and the draft, that could leave 2 teams to slug it out and I am not certain if either one would really consider moving all the way to number 1 to get a QB. Honestly, if the Bills really want to leapfrog the Cardinals to get Geno Smith, why would they trade up higher than number 4?

KCStud
02-28-2013, 03:56 PM
Fixed that for you.

I'd be shocked if anyone traded for the #1 pick this year. But then again, I was shocked to see a team giving up a 2nd round pick (much less two!) for Alex Smith.

We gave up that much because the 49ers knew we needed him. We had no leverage at all. And if I'm not mistaken next years pick is conditional, not a for sure 2nd round pick.

Reid making this deal at the combine means what everyone has been saying: this QB class is terrible and will need to be developed.
And this isn't from some moron like Pioli who doesn't know jack **** about QB's. Reid kinda has a well-deserved rep for finding and developing QB's.

I don't like the ammo we gave up to get the guy, but he was by far the best QB this offseason. If you don't believe that then answer this: who will win more games? A 20-5 NFL vet or some rookie QB in one of the weakest classes ever?

I fully expect Reid to do exactly what he and John Elway did last year: draft a QB to sit and develop until the time is right.

Eldorado
02-28-2013, 03:59 PM
We gave up that much because the 49ers knew we needed him. We had no leverage at all. And if I'm not mistaken next years pick is conditional, not a for sure 2nd round pick.

Reid making this deal at the combine means what everyone has been saying: this QB class is terrible and will need to be developed.
And this isn't from some moron like Pioli who doesn't know jack **** about QB's. Reid kinda has a well-deserved rep for finding and developing QB's.

I don't like the ammo we gave up to get the guy, but he was by far the best QB this offseason. If you don't believe that then answer this: who will win more games? A 20-5 NFL vet or some rookie QB in one of the weakest classes ever?

I fully expect Reid to do exactly what he and John Elway did last year: draft a QB in the 2nd/3rd round are to sit and develop until the time is right.

lol! Yeah, that Kevin Kolb has been tearing **** UP!

KCStud
02-28-2013, 04:00 PM
lol! Yeah, that Kevin Kolb has been tearing **** UP!

He was good in Philly. Good enough to get a 1st round CB and 2nd round pick. Reid raped Arizona hard on that one.

Paladin
02-28-2013, 04:39 PM
He was good in Philly. Good enough to get a 1st round CB and 2nd round pick. Reid raped Arizona hard on that one.

Maybe so, but Reid is the rapee this time.......

broncosteven
02-28-2013, 05:42 PM
The buzz in KC is that Reid and Dorsey know that there is quite a bit of interest in the 1st overall pick.

From what I've heard, the Raiders, Eagles and Browns all love Geno Smith.

I can see a situation where we trade to 4 with the Eagles and pick up a draft pick, still get a great player, and get the chance to screw the Raiders over.

I'd love that if it happened.

OK I just saw the NFL segment where the food critic guy said that Oakland is looking at drafting Smith.

A day or 2 ago they said they were happy restructuring Palmers deal and putting in packages for their supplemental draft pick. I wonder how much of this is BS.

Anyone panicking and making a move up to draft Smith in a draft where the holders of the 1st overall pick made a trade for a Vet rather than pick him is crazy.

bowtown
02-28-2013, 05:59 PM
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I don't like the ammo we gave up to get the guy, but he was by far the best QB this offseason. If you don't believe that then answer this: who will win more games? A 20-5 NFL vet or some rookie QB in one of the weakest classes ever?


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txtebow
02-28-2013, 06:02 PM
Alex Smith, a more mobile Kyle Orton.....which probably would've won 8 games for the Chiefs in 2012....

SonOfLe-loLang
02-28-2013, 06:12 PM
He was good in Philly. Good enough to get a 1st round CB and 2nd round pick. Reid raped Arizona hard on that one.

He was good in Philly? When?

Ill agree about the rape though

gyldenlove
02-28-2013, 06:25 PM
He was good in Philly. Good enough to get a 1st round CB and 2nd round pick. Reid raped Arizona hard on that one.

Reid has been good at trading away QBs, he got a 2nd rounder for Mcnabb, but we have yet to see him be good with trading FOR a QB.