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DBroncos4life
02-25-2013, 02:30 PM
2. Left tackle Ryan Clady -- VP of Football Operations John Elway has made it clear Clady isn't going anywhere. He'll be slapped with the franchise tag, and the Broncos will explore something more long term when Clady proves he's fully recovered from offseason shoulder surgery.

Free Agent Forecast: Broncos via the franchise tag.

24. Cornerback Derek Cox -- Despite his client's laundry list of durability woes, Cox's agent expects a "vigorous" market for the 26-year-old corner. Per the agent, Cox permitted a 69.0 passer rating last season, better than more heralded CBs Talib (98.7), Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (87.7), and Sean Smith (85.1). Cox and his agent may be slightly disappointed, but they'll get a solid deal. Broncos DC Jack Del Rio knows Cox well from their Jacksonville days.

Free Agent Forecast: Broncos on a four-year, $28 million contract.

47. Defensive tackle Terrance Knighton -- Knighton never met expectations in Jacksonville, but he's a 340-pound 26-year-old long on run-clogging potential. A one-year, prove-it deal with the 2014 market in mind might serve Knighton best in the big picture. Denver needs an anchor for its defense, and coordinator Jack Del Rio was Knighton's head coach for three years with the Jags.

Free Agent Forecast: Broncos on a one-year, $4.75 million contract

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/42620/309/top-50-free-agency-forecast

Bacchus
02-25-2013, 02:33 PM
Both of those players are young, I like Knighton's one year dear. These moves would be solid.

SonOfLe-loLang
02-25-2013, 02:51 PM
I'm not sure why we'd need to spend so much money on a corner.

socalorado
02-25-2013, 02:52 PM
2. Left tackle Ryan Clady -- VP of Football Operations John Elway has made it clear Clady isn't going anywhere. He'll be slapped with the franchise tag, and the Broncos will explore something more long term when Clady proves he's fully recovered from offseason shoulder surgery.

Free Agent Forecast: Broncos via the franchise tag.

24. Cornerback Derek Cox -- Despite his client's laundry list of durability woes, Cox's agent expects a "vigorous" market for the 26-year-old corner. Per the agent, Cox permitted a 69.0 passer rating last season, better than more heralded CBs Talib (98.7), Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (87.7), and Sean Smith (85.1). Cox and his agent may be slightly disappointed, but they'll get a solid deal. Broncos DC Jack Del Rio knows Cox well from their Jacksonville days.

Free Agent Forecast: Broncos on a four-year, $28 million contract.

47. Defensive tackle Terrance Knighton -- Knighton never met expectations in Jacksonville, but he's a 340-pound 26-year-old long on run-clogging potential. A one-year, prove-it deal with the 2014 market in mind might serve Knighton best in the big picture. Denver needs an anchor for its defense, and coordinator Jack Del Rio was Knighton's head coach for three years with the Jags.

Free Agent Forecast: Broncos on a one-year, $4.75 million contract

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/42620/309/top-50-free-agency-forecast

But, but, but according to a poster here on this site, DEN cant possibly afford those guys!!!!!! And its complete and total hogwash that anyone in their right mind would consider for a moment that DEN could ever hope to sign a single player in FA next year because they are broke and theres definately no way in hell that DEN should re-sign Ryan Clady cause he sucks and hes too expensive so were all screwed!!!
Game over man, GAME OVER!

broncosteven
02-25-2013, 03:03 PM
The more arguments I hear for Knighton the more I like the idea of signing him. I like his age, size and weight. If he could clog the middle and force plays outside to the strength of our I then great! We could get a more athletic MLB or let Irving/Johnson fight it out in TC.

This would mean we could go BPA through the entire draft

OBF1
02-25-2013, 03:33 PM
I just talked to Pat Bowlen, He confirmed Orangemane rumor that he is indeed flat broke. Forget about these players ending up in Denver.

Paladin
02-25-2013, 03:54 PM
Drop Mays and Porter and they can get Knighton for two years.

I don't have much affinity for one year deals.

cutthemdown
02-25-2013, 05:17 PM
I'm not sure why we'd need to spend so much money on a corner.

because Bailey is getting old and probably has 1 yr left. Harris is good but Carter isn't a starter IMO. You can never have too many CB.

SonOfLe-loLang
02-25-2013, 05:23 PM
because Bailey is getting old and probably has 1 yr left. Harris is good but Carter isn't a starter IMO. You can never have too many CB.

So get one next year then unless you think the root of the Broncos defensive problems is corner play. Which i dont think it is.

RaiderH8r
02-25-2013, 05:42 PM
Sign Manning to Brady money and we can do all sorts of ****. Come on Elway, make it happen.

Requiem
02-25-2013, 05:42 PM
So get one next year then unless you think the root of the Broncos defensive problems is corner play. Which i dont think it is.

We would be stupid to pass up the insane talent at DB in this draft.

SlyEli
02-25-2013, 05:43 PM
Drop Mays and Porter and they can get Knighton for two years.

I don't have much affinity for one year deals.

Porter is a UFA, and I don't think they have any intention of resigning him

DBroncos4life
02-25-2013, 05:49 PM
Sign Manning to Brady money and we can do all sorts of ****. Come on Elway, make it happen.

You want to be paying for Manning after he is retired?

SonOfLe-loLang
02-25-2013, 05:55 PM
We would be stupid to pass up the insane talent at DB in this draft.

Didnt say draft...said FA

cutthemdown
02-25-2013, 06:04 PM
Didnt say draft...said FA

Thats why at this point we are guessing. Broncos could like a CB in FA and therefore not plan to draft one in the early rounds of the draft. Or they could see a CB in the first round they like and therfore go looking for a linebacker or DT in FA.

I just think FA a little weak this yr. Most important is to get a couple starters from the draft. If we keep doing that each yr we will have a kick ass team soon.

Drunken.Broncoholic
02-25-2013, 06:22 PM
It will be interesting to see how the ravens approach Ellerbe and flacco in the same offseason. Someone could throw stacks at Ellerbe and it would be hard for ravens to keep him with flacco wanting big boy money.

Bigdawg26
02-25-2013, 06:45 PM
I'm not sure why we'd need to spend so much money on a corner.

Me neither for a potential 4th corner. Champ, Bolden, Harris, Carter, and a mid level corner or a 5th round pick is good with me.

BroncoMan4ever
02-25-2013, 07:45 PM
Drop Mays and Porter and they can get Knighton for two years.

I don't have much affinity for one year deals.

I thought that too, but the Porter deal made me like the 1 year deal a lot.

Broncojef
02-25-2013, 07:59 PM
Drop Mays and Porter and they can get Knighton for two years.

I don't have much affinity for one year deals.

Haven't we been paying Warren like $4 mill to ride the bench the last couple years? Get rid of him and sign the Knighton kid.

Broncojef
02-25-2013, 08:01 PM
Anyway we could add Reggie Bush to that list? :thumbs:

broncswin
02-25-2013, 08:45 PM
Anyway we could add Reggie Bush to that list? :thumbs:

I want Ball in the third...where do the experts have him projected??

TheReverend
02-25-2013, 08:58 PM
So get one next year then unless you think the root of the Broncos defensive problems is corner play. Which i dont think it is.

Decided not to watch the postseason?

SonOfLe-loLang
02-25-2013, 09:11 PM
Decided not to watch the postseason?

Point taken. But was that performance indicative of an overall cornerback problem or our best corner getting beaten deep twice and a fluke TD? If you want to use that one game as an example, its more a referendum on Champ Bailey than overall corner play. But I won't go as far to say that either.

TheReverend
02-25-2013, 09:15 PM
Point taken. But was that performance indicative of an overall cornerback problem or our best corner getting beaten deep twice and a fluke TD? If you want to use that one game as an example, its more a referendum on Champ Bailey than overall corner play. But I won't go as far to say that either.

.... I think you lost track of the point.

The point is upgrading the CB position. You can't say, 'well one guy blew it! ' because that's wtf were talking about...

SonOfLe-loLang
02-25-2013, 10:06 PM
.... I think you lost track of the point.

The point is upgrading the CB position. You can't say, 'well one guy blew it! ' because that's wtf were talking about...

I'm all for it, I just dont want to spend 7m a year on an FA to do it. All for drafting one.

Bacchus
02-25-2013, 10:15 PM
Haven't we been paying Warren like $4 mill to ride the bench the last couple years? Get rid of him and sign the Knighton kid.

Warren is a FA and Denver paid him $1.5 million last year.

McDman
02-26-2013, 05:18 AM
So if we pay him that amount of money, does he play nickle? I can't see him beating out Champ or Harris.

eddie mac
02-26-2013, 06:20 AM
So if we pay him that amount of money, does he play nickle? I can't see him beating out Champ or Harris.

Harris is the nickle.

TheReverend
02-26-2013, 06:24 AM
I'm all for it, I just dont want to spend 7m a year on an FA to do it. All for drafting one.

You're right and Elway will know best. His two big non goat FA acquisitions have been stellar (Warren and Porter). Spending comparable money on someone who can and will play would be ludicrous.

Bacchus
02-26-2013, 07:04 AM
You're right and Elway will know best. His two big non goat FA acquisitions have been stellar (Warren and Porter). Spending comparable money on someone who can and will play would be ludicrous.

Ok, so Leonhard, Bannan, Adams, Koppen, Dreesen, Tamme, Stokley, Carter don't count? They were all hits by Elway.

Money has nothing to do with it. If Elway feels the guy is worth the contract he should go get him. Ty Warren's injuries should not be held against Elway. It is not like he is injury prone. He just had two very serious injuries two years in a row. Sucks for Warren, sucks for Denver, it is nothing you could have predicted. And what did Denver lose signing Porter to a 1 year deal? They lost nothing

McDman
02-26-2013, 08:16 AM
Harris is the nickle.

Harris started opposite Champ this year and killed it. Unless he moved to the slot in nickle situations he was the starter.

Heyneck
02-26-2013, 09:05 AM
Didn't know where to put this... but after hearing yesterday that Steven Jackson will take the option to void his final year and become a FA, I can't help but scream: HELL YEAH!!! I am sure he will garner interest on our part. He is the type of back Fox wants. Just turning 30 and the perfect replacement for WM. This lets us use the our draft pick in anything other than a RB (unless it's Lattimore somewhere in the 3rd). We would own with PM and Jackson in the same backfield for the next 2-3 years.

Make it happen KARMA!!!

Rascal
02-26-2013, 10:10 AM
Harris is the nickle.

Wrong. He is the #2 CB.

Swedish Extrovert
02-26-2013, 11:02 AM
We can sign both those guys after we cut DJ.

TheReverend
02-26-2013, 11:05 AM
Ok, so Leonhard, Bannan, Adams, Koppen, Dreesen, Tamme, Stokley, Carter don't count? They were all hits by Elway.

Money has nothing to do with it. If Elway feels the guy is worth the contract he should go get him. Ty Warren's injuries should not be held against Elway. It is not like he is injury prone. He just had two very serious injuries two years in a row. Sucks for Warren, sucks for Denver, it is nothing you could have predicted. And what did Denver lose signing Porter to a 1 year deal? They lost nothing

Lol @ "hits"

And what exactly do you disagree with? Have our "big" FA acquisitions aside from Manning been complete busts or not?

rugbythug
02-26-2013, 11:09 AM
Lol @ "hits"

And what exactly do you disagree with? Have our "big" FA acquisitions aside from Manning been complete busts or not?

Rev your better than that. Other than his home runs he is only striking out or hitting singles.

Bacchus
02-26-2013, 12:13 PM
Lol @ "hits"

And what exactly do you disagree with? Have our "big" FA acquisitions aside from Manning been complete busts or not?

What difference does it make? He signed 10 FA and two didn't pan out, one because of injury. Neither signing hurt Denver's cap. You whining like a little girl about nothing.

Shananahan
02-26-2013, 12:42 PM
Ty Warren's injuries should not be held against Elway. It is not like he is injury prone. He just had two very serious injuries two years in a row.
Nobody is arguing that Warren's injuries should be blamed on Elway, but it's silly to suggest that Elway is not at least partly accountable for the signing not panning out. Warren might not be 'injury prone', but Elway signed him as an old and damaged player who was no longer wanted by his former team. He took the risk, so it falls on him.

I don't really care because it all sorta worked out in the end, but Elway is the guy who made that decision.

Bacchus
02-26-2013, 02:54 PM
Nobody is arguing that Warren's injuries should be blamed on Elway, but it's silly to suggest that Elway is not at least partly accountable for the signing not panning out. Warren might not be 'injury prone', but Elway signed him as an old and damaged player who was no longer wanted by his former team. He took the risk, so it falls on him.

I don't really care because it all sorta worked out in the end, but Elway is the guy who made that decision.

Again who cares if Warren panned out or not? I don't get the arguement here.

Denver signed what 10 FAs last year and two did not pan out and these two have little cap ramifications. Move on nothing to see here. Tell me one team that hits on all their FAs. I do not even understand the arguement. Elway has done a fantastic job selecting FAs so far.

Drunken.Broncoholic
02-26-2013, 03:00 PM
Didnt we restructure Warrens contract after his first season ending injury?

Bacchus
02-26-2013, 03:01 PM
Didnt we restructure Warrens contract after his first season ending injury?

Yep, he was on a 1 year $1.5 million. He is a FA now with no cap ramifications, oh yeah but Elway sucks.

McDman
02-26-2013, 04:42 PM
The worst signing Elway has made was Mays. It was a terrible idea and I still don't really understand what they saw in himto give him that kind of contract.

Shananahan
02-26-2013, 04:50 PM
Again who cares if Warren panned out or not? I don't get the arguement here.

Denver signed what 10 FAs last year and two did not pan out and these two have little cap ramifications. Move on nothing to see here. Tell me one team that hits on all their FAs. I do not even understand the arguement. Elway has done a fantastic job selecting FAs so far.
Like I said, I'm not complaining.

Drunken.Broncoholic
02-26-2013, 04:51 PM
The worst signing Elway has made was Mays. It was a terrible idea and I still don't really understand what they saw in himto give him that kind of contract.

I have to agree with this. Mays was a swing and miss.

*WARHORSE*
02-26-2013, 09:43 PM
Mays was here to stuff the run. I dont see him coming back.