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SouthStndJunkie
02-24-2013, 02:29 PM
Fire up the grill....it's almost time for some Deeetroit Tigers baseball!

SouthStndJunkie
02-24-2013, 02:30 PM
TAMPA, Fla. -- New York Yankees outfielder Curtis Granderson suffered a fractured right forearm Sunday after being hit by a pitch in his first at-bat in a spring training game and will be out until at least the first week of May.

maher_tyler
02-24-2013, 03:05 PM
I'm interested in how well the Braves do having both Upton brothers on the team. Solid offseason pick ups for them.

COWheatGrower
02-24-2013, 04:42 PM
Do you think Bruce Rondon is ready to close for a team with World Series title aspirations?

Venezuelan throws serious fire (103 mph at times), but has trouble locating it and is taking a major leap (no big league experience) if he breaks camp as the closer.

brncs_fan
02-24-2013, 04:44 PM
Let's Go Cardinals!

Lestat
02-24-2013, 05:25 PM
ugh, goddamn cheap ass Hal, now our pitching staff is one injury away from finished and we have our best power hitters on the shelf with no relief in sight.

jerseyboiler120
02-24-2013, 05:31 PM
Are the a lot of Rockies fans on The Mane?

SoCalBronco
02-24-2013, 05:37 PM
Go white Sox.....you can put it on the booooooooooard, yessssss!

Requiem
02-24-2013, 05:40 PM
Dear Seattle Mariners,

It is another baseball year. You have the best pitcher in baseball, and arguably three of the top ten pitching prospects in the entire majors. You have some offensive talent, but don't have any big power guys. Please score more than 2 runs a game this year so Felix can actually win 18-20 games like he should ever season. It is criminal that a guy gets ND when he throws 8 awesome innings.

Sincerely,

Sad In Seattle

TheChamp24
02-24-2013, 08:27 PM
TAMPA, Fla. -- New York Yankees outfielder Curtis Granderson suffered a fractured right forearm Sunday after being hit by a pitch in his first at-bat in a spring training game and will be out until at least the first week of May.

This is just flat out ridiculous. First at bat in spring training, and he fractures his forearm and will miss the first month of the season. ARod's out for awhile, Jeter's hobbled by an ankle but should be good to go by the opener, I mean dang the Yankees look like a team you don't really know what to make of right now.

TD4HOF
02-24-2013, 08:54 PM
Aww yeah, hardball! Let's Go Mets!

Lestat
02-24-2013, 09:11 PM
This is just flat out ridiculous. First at bat in spring training, and he fractures his forearm and will miss the first month of the season. ARod's out for awhile, Jeter's hobbled by an ankle but should be good to go by the opener, I mean dang the Yankees look like a team you don't really know what to make of right now.

they're a 210+ budget team trying to pretend they can spend 180-189 mil and not give out big contracts to win and make money.
Hal lost his damn mind and thinks the fans were just going to take it.
now he's in a panic because the rewards for being at 189 mil are half of what was expected and the fans aren't buying tickets like they normally do.

what kind of moron comes out and says you spent money, you're shocked at the fan uproar over not spending on FA's and that you don't believe in contract extensions and aren't a fan of them.

elsid13
02-24-2013, 09:19 PM
Just have feeling my BoSox are going to be back in the mix this season.

COWheatGrower
02-24-2013, 09:39 PM
Just have feeling my BoSox are going to be back in the mix this season.

Drinking the John Lackey kool aid?

spdirty
02-25-2013, 12:32 AM
Are the a lot of Rockies fans on The Mane?

Yeah, with their ****ed up ownership, pathetic unaccountable GM that spouts the company line, and therefore gets to keep his job for life, manager that a year ago was coaching high school baseball. Because their manager last year couldn't take it and quit, leaving 1.2 million on the table without another job lined up.

It's a pretty disgusting situation. I'll watch, probably until May or June when they are eliminated from pretending to contend for a playoff berth. I won't go to any games though. I'll be damned if I'll support that joke with any of my money.

It sucks. I enjoy watching baseball and going to the games when the Rockies fool me into thinking that they actually know what they're doing.

elsid13
02-25-2013, 03:45 AM
Drinking the John Lackey kool aid?

Hell no. Just a feeling that the BP is going to be nasty and that Lester/Buchlotz are going to regain All Star status.

bombay
02-27-2013, 02:26 PM
Fangraphs WAR/Salary stuff on Tulo over the past 6 seasons. His 'value' to the team:


2007: $23.1M
2008: $4M
2009: $25.5M
2010: $25.1M
2011: $27.1M
2012: $6.9M (in 47 games)

Tombstone RJ
02-27-2013, 02:34 PM
Yeah, with their ****ed up ownership, pathetic unaccountable GM that spouts the company line, and therefore gets to keep his job for life, manager that a year ago was coaching high school baseball. Because their manager last year couldn't take it and quit, leaving 1.2 million on the table without another job lined up.

It's a pretty disgusting situation. I'll watch, probably until May or June when they are eliminated from pretending to contend for a playoff berth. I won't go to any games though. I'll be damned if I'll support that joke with any of my money.

It sucks. I enjoy watching baseball and going to the games when the Rockies fool me into thinking that they actually know what they're doing.

this. Even though I was getting tired of Jim Tracey, and his resignation came as a pleasant suprise to me, obviously it appears to have caught the Rockies completely off base. They are gambling on Walt Weiss but Walt will find out fast that ownership and Dan O'Dowd are just fine with losing. WW will do the usual 3 years to average a .450 winning percentage before he retires or walks away, or O'Dowd fires him.

socalorado
02-27-2013, 02:50 PM
http://media.elnuevoherald.com/smedia/2013/02/21/13/47/1cg1XN.St.84.JPG
Murderer's Row

COWheatGrower
02-27-2013, 03:49 PM
this. Even though I was getting tired of Jim Tracey, and his resignation came as a pleasant suprise to me, obviously it appears to have caught the Rockies completely off base. They are gambling on Walt Weiss but Walt will find out fast that ownership and Dan O'Dowd are just fine with losing. WW will do the usual 3 years to average a .450 winning percentage before he retires or walks away, or O'Dowd fires him.

The ownership deserves some credit for locking up Troy Tulowitzki and Carlos Gonzalez to long-term contracts. This isn't Miami or Kansas City where management is just spitting in the fans' faces.

O'Dowd has gotten way too long of a leash though. The 2007 and 2009 seasons aren't enough when you consider the entire body of work over 13 years. They had a good scouting run in the mid-to-late 2000s, but the system has dried up more recently.

I do think Colorado is a difficult environment to sustain pitching success over time and it's going to be a challenge for any baseball think-tank. I applaud O'Dowd for experimenting with something different last year with the four-man rotation and 80-pitch counts.

But all in all, the Rockies could use some fresh blood in baseball ops. Arizona and San Diego have consistently produced more competitive teams in the time O'Dowd has been there.

bombay
02-27-2013, 04:04 PM
Cardinals rookie righthander Michael Wacha was sensational against the mets today. Three innings, no baserunners, 5 Ks. Fastball 93-95, with an exceptional changeup and a plus curveball. He make make it to the bigs very early. He's only 21.

Tombstone RJ
02-27-2013, 04:55 PM
The ownership deserves some credit for locking up Troy Tulowitzki and Carlos Gonzalez to long-term contracts. This isn't Miami or Kansas City where management is just spitting in the fans' faces.

O'Dowd has gotten way too long of a leash though. The 2007 and 2009 seasons aren't enough when you consider the entire body of work over 13 years. They had a good scouting run in the mid-to-late 2000s, but the system has dried up more recently.

I do think Colorado is a difficult environment to sustain pitching success over time and it's going to be a challenge for any baseball think-tank. I applaud O'Dowd for experimenting with something different last year with the four-man rotation and 80-pitch counts.

But all in all, the Rockies could use some fresh blood in baseball ops. Arizona and San Diego have consistently produced more competitive teams in the time O'Dowd has been there.

Not buying it. O'Dowd sucks and so does ownership. The Rockies are going on 20 years and what do they have to show for it, one WS appearance? The Marlins and the Diamondbacks have what, 2 or 3 WS championships between the two? San Fran has 2 WS championships as well. Even the pathetic Dodgers are making a huge comback after their previous owners basically stole from the team.

Nah, this team sucks because ownership sucks and O'Dowd is still a joke. He was a joke when he was hired, and he is a joke now, and he will continue to be a joke until he gets fired, which will probably be never.

I bet the friggen Cubs win a WS before this franchise. I bet KC Royals wins a WS before this franchise does.

DBroncos4life
03-05-2013, 09:28 PM
http://daps.tv/source-robinson-cano-alex-rodriguez-ryan-braun-and-curtis-granderson-to-be-suspended/
A Rod, Cano, Granderson, and Braun to be suspended?
Crazy if true.

Lestat
03-05-2013, 09:31 PM
i don't see it. A-Rod passed multiple tests before the initial reports of him being linked again to PED's and they tested him,Gio Gonzalez and the rest of the players linked less than a week after the report and they all passed.
so how are they going to suddenly fail now?

DBroncos4life
03-05-2013, 09:40 PM
i don't see it. A-Rod passed multiple tests before the initial reports of him being linked again to PED's and they tested him,Gio Gonzalez and the rest of the players linked less than a week after the report and they all passed.
so how are they going to suddenly fail now?

I don't know. He called it before so who knows.

bombay
03-05-2013, 09:52 PM
I don't know. He called it before so who knows.

Yeah. He had the info on the Giants 2nd baseman before anyone else last season.

SouthStndJunkie
03-29-2013, 10:55 AM
Justin Verlander and the Detroit Tigers have reached agreement on a new contract that could exceed $202 million, according to sources.

Verlander's deal, which would make him the highest-paid pitcher in the game, is for seven years and worth $180 million. A vesting option for an eighth year could push the deal to $202 million.

SouthStndJunkie
03-30-2013, 01:18 AM
That's a lot of cheese to pay a pitcher, but Detroit needed to keep JV in town, as you don't let players like him even come close to hitting the open market.

I'd love to see JV play his entire career in Detroit and this contract has an option year through the 2020 season.

TheChamp24
03-30-2013, 11:28 AM
That's a lot of cheese to pay a pitcher, but Detroit needed to keep JV in town, as you don't let players like him even come close to hitting the open market.

I'd love to see JV play his entire career in Detroit and this contract has an option year through the 2020 season.

I agree with this, but man I always grow weary of signing a pitcher to such a long contract at his age. He's thrown a LOT of innings, and look at Halladay, could be wearing down already.

SouthStndJunkie
04-01-2013, 01:26 PM
Fire up your grills and get ready for some Detroit Tiger baseball....season opener this afternoon versus Minnesota.

TonyR
04-01-2013, 02:04 PM
they're a 210+ budget team trying to pretend they can spend 180-189 mil and not give out big contracts to win and make money.
Hal lost his damn mind and thinks the fans were just going to take it.
now he's in a panic because the rewards for being at 189 mil are half of what was expected and the fans aren't buying tickets like they normally do.

what kind of moron comes out and says you spent money, you're shocked at the fan uproar over not spending on FA's and that you don't believe in contract extensions and aren't a fan of them.

Apparently there's a strategy behind tanking the next two seasons:

For years, the Yankees have acted as if the luxury tax was just the cost of doing business. But George Steinbrenner died in 2010, and his maniacal focus on winning seems to have gone with him. His sons, Hank and Hal, like winning just fine, but they would prefer to win and make piles of money. So, although they've been willing to maintain the team's payroll well above the current luxury-tax threshold of $178 million, they haven't increased payroll in eight years.

The Steinbrenners' unwillingness to raise payroll has made it more difficult for the Yankees to bring in fresh veterans to replace the worn-out ones. As a result, the team has stuck with its old guys even as they turned into really old guys — last year, the offense averaged 32.7 years old, the oldest in franchise history and the third-oldest in baseball history.

The newest CBA, agreed to after the 2011 season, included two key changes [PDF] to the luxury tax. The first is that the highest tax rate (which, of course, applies to the Yankees) was increased from 40 to 50 percent. The second change is that, should a team avoid the luxury tax even once, its tax rate will drop back to the lowest level (17.5 percent) the next time it exceeds the threshold, and rise incrementally from there.

In other words, if the Yankees can get below the tax threshold just once, they won't just save millions of dollars that year, they'll also save millions for the three subsequent years even if they jack up their payroll again.

The Yankees aren't shy in disclosing that this is their strategy — they've been talking about it publicly for more than a year. The threshold increases to $189 million in 2014, and the franchise plans to get its payroll below that mark next year. Which would be its lowest payroll in a decade.

It would be almost impossible to drop $30 million worth of salaries in one offseason, particularly with so many long-term contracts (which tend to escalate over time) on the books. To get payroll under control for 2014, the cost-cutting had to start this year. A franchise that had essentially never lost a free agent it wanted chose to let three of them get away this winter. http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9025135/the-evil-empire-new-york-yankees-to-fall

DBroncos4life
04-01-2013, 04:23 PM
Kershaw best pitcher in the MLB and a now power hitter :thumbs:

24champ
04-01-2013, 04:59 PM
Dodgers got some Koufax mojo today!

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SoCalBronco
04-01-2013, 05:14 PM
Great effort from Chris Sale today...Sox win.

You can put it on the booooooooooard, yessss!

Bronkota
04-01-2013, 06:15 PM
this. Even though I was getting tired of Jim Tracey, and his resignation came as a pleasant suprise to me, obviously it appears to have caught the Rockies completely off base. They are gambling on Walt Weiss but Walt will find out fast that ownership and Dan O'Dowd are just fine with losing. WW will do the usual 3 years to average a .450 winning percentage before he retires or walks away, or O'Dowd fires him.

Enjoyable opening day game to watch. Fowlers 9th inning homer was awesome. I predict Weiss will be one and done. Loved him as a player though....

TheChamp24
04-01-2013, 07:24 PM
Enjoyable opening day game to watch. Fowlers 9th inning homer was awesome. I predict Weiss will be one and done. Loved him as a player though....

Questionable decisions? Sure sounds like a Rockies manager to me!
Takes Belisle out of the game after 1 pitch, 1 pitch! Complete waste.

broncosteven
04-01-2013, 08:25 PM
It was nice to see Flowers homer in the WS win over kFc. I hope he doesn't pull a Tuffy Rhodes and disappear after opening day after losing AJ we need him to produce on offense.

Sale gets win in a solid outing en route to his Cy Young season this year!

spdirty
04-01-2013, 08:29 PM
Enjoyable opening day game to watch. Fowlers 9th inning homer was awesome. I predict Weiss will be one and done. Loved him as a player though....

So long as he says the things that the Monforts want him to say, he'll have that job for life. Job performance and accountability are things they will not fire you for.

Anyway, good job laying down when clutch time came Rox! 1 down, 99 to go for my hopes of a humiliating 100 loss season.

Wish the fanbase would quit rewarding the bull**** they put out there and stop going to the games.

spdirty
04-05-2013, 09:11 AM
http://i.imgur.com/QSVRUj2.jpg

socalorado
04-05-2013, 09:50 AM
The Hambone is 1 for 15 so far. Wow. Just wow.
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/107/files/2013/02/7086694.jpg

SouthStndJunkie
04-06-2013, 07:05 PM
Tigers smash the Yankees again today.

The Tigers 1-5 spots in the lineup are going to be fun to watch this season.

Austin Jackson, Torii Hunter, Miguel Cabrera, Prince Fielder, and Victor Martinez.

Lestat
04-06-2013, 07:51 PM
Tigers smash the Yankees again today.

The Tigers 1-5 spots in the lineup are going to be fun to watch this season.

Austin Jackson, Torii Hunter, Miguel Cabrera, Prince Fielder, and Victor Martinez.

****ing cheap ass owners. i'm not used to this ****. i'm a Yankees fan dammit! we don't do cheap.

DBroncos4life
04-06-2013, 08:03 PM
Crawford is playing great so far this year. Thank god he was just a thrown in player in that big trade.

bombay
04-06-2013, 09:40 PM
My Cardinals totally suck. But, it's a long season, and they'll get better. And make the playoffs, where they are very dangerous.

TheChamp24
04-07-2013, 11:00 AM
Tigers smash the Yankees again today.

The Tigers 1-5 spots in the lineup are going to be fun to watch this season.

Austin Jackson, Torii Hunter, Miguel Cabrera, Prince Fielder, and Victor Martinez.

I seriously think Hunter is on for a rapid decline, he had an extremely lucky BABIP last year. I'd expect more 2011-esque numbers with less homeruns.

Its awesome seeing the Yankees struggle to start the year. All that freely spending, the team is actually doing something smart IMO in not just throwing money to get players. They have $83 million sitting on the disabled list at the moment.

DBroncos4life
04-07-2013, 03:34 PM
How is Juan Uribe still in the majors. Last two years he batted .204 and .191. Now he is batting a impressive .000 while making 21 million dollars over these three seasons.

TheChamp24
04-07-2013, 06:52 PM
How is Juan Uribe still in the majors. Last two years he batted .204 and .191. Now he is batting a impressive .000 while making 21 million dollars over these three seasons.

And whats amazing is he has 2 World Series Championships in his career.
Im just curious what the heck were the Dodgers thinking signing him to that contract. I mean seriously...lololol

elsid13
04-07-2013, 08:11 PM
Will Middlebrooks had three home runs game today and Lester shut down the Blue Jays. Sox looking good out of the gate.

Dukes
04-07-2013, 08:46 PM
If only the playoffs started tomorrow, the Rockies would be in. You're not supposed to peak in April.

spdirty
04-07-2013, 09:26 PM
If only the playoffs started tomorrow, the Rockies would be in. You're not supposed to peak in April.

LOL Don't worry. Tomorrow they begin a series against reality.

SpringStein
04-07-2013, 09:34 PM
LOL Don't worry. Tomorrow they begin a series against reality.

I'll be happy if they don't get swept.

TonyR
04-08-2013, 07:08 AM
Its awesome seeing the Yankees struggle to start the year...

Yanks are going to have their struggles for the next two years (see post #31 for details). That said, fun to see their B-team crush the Tigers 7-0 with Verlander on the mound.

DBroncos4life
04-08-2013, 11:07 AM
Yanks are going to have their struggles for the next two years (see post #31 for details). That said, fun to see their B-team crush the Tigers 7-0 with Verlander on the mound.

Both Verlander and Felix velocity is down to start the year. About two miles an hour for both of them. They think Verlanders is due to the weather though. Something to watch for I guess.

SouthStndJunkie
04-09-2013, 11:46 AM
Both Verlander and Felix velocity is down to start the year. About two miles an hour for both of them. They think Verlanders is due to the weather though. Something to watch for I guess.

Justin Verlander is a notoriously slow starter.

It's not like he gave up all 7 runs against the Yankees....his line wasn't that bad:

7.1 innings pitched, 7 hits, 3 ER, 2 BB, 4 Ks

He is 1-1 with a 2.19 ERA and 11 Ks in 12.1 innings pitched.

It's was about 40 degrees in his first start and 50 degrees in his 2nd start.

JV usually kicks it into gear about May when it starts to warm up a bit.

SouthStndJunkie
04-09-2013, 11:50 AM
The Los Angeles Angels placed ace Jered Weaver on the 15-day disabled list with a fractured elbow on his non-throwing arm, the team announced Tuesday.

The Angels said he is expected to miss at least four weeks with the injury, which the team termed a left non-displaced radial head fracture. The disabled-list move is retroactive to April 8.

DBroncos4life
04-09-2013, 04:59 PM
And whats amazing is he has 2 World Series Championships in his career.
Im just curious what the heck were the Dodgers thinking signing him to that contract. I mean seriously...lololol

That was the former peoples dumb ass deal. The fact that Don keeps sending this tub of **** out there needs to be fired. Bases loaded. One out and he crushes the ball as far as he could to the pitcher. Inning ending double play.

spdirty
04-09-2013, 10:26 PM
Holy **** that ottavino sucks. Way to blow opening day then a 6-2 lead. He is a Rockie.

socalorado
04-10-2013, 06:50 AM
Holy **** that ottavino sucks. Way to blow opening day then a 6-2 lead. He is a Rockie.

No. CJ Wilson. Now he SUCKS. Blows.
I hated this move 2 years ago, and i have been justified by his piss-poor preformances ever since. The clown is easily the most overrated pitcher in MLB.
Absolutely sucks every time he pitches.
Gives up 3 in the 1st, then with the 1st pitch of the 2nd, gives up a dinger to Coco Crisp.
I absolutely cant stand Wilson.

SouthStndJunkie
04-11-2013, 01:30 PM
I seriously think Hunter is on for a rapid decline, he had an extremely lucky BABIP last year. I'd expect more 2011-esque numbers with less homeruns.

Its awesome seeing the Yankees struggle to start the year. All that freely spending, the team is actually doing something smart IMO in not just throwing money to get players. They have $83 million sitting on the disabled list at the moment.

Thus far (only 9 games into the season), Torii Hunter has looked excellent for Detroit and has been the catalyst of the offense.

Hunter is batting .405 and has fit in great batting 2nd in the lineup.

I expect less HRs from him playing half his games at Comerica, but I expect he will score a ****load of runs with Miggy, Prince, and Victor Martinez batting behind him.

bombay
04-11-2013, 02:17 PM
The Cardinals young bats - Matt Adams and Matt Carpenter - have helped put them back on track with a 4-1 record following an ugly 1-3 start. If Carlos Beltran doesn't pick it up at some point, you may see 20 year old Oscar Tavares in the bigs sometime soon.

SouthStndJunkie
04-12-2013, 08:07 AM
SAN DIEGO -- Dodgers pitcher Zack Greinke broke his left collarbone in a bench-clearing brawl with the San Diego Padres during Los Angeles' 3-2 victory Thursday night.

Juan Uribe's pinch-hit home run in the eighth put the Dodgers ahead, two innings after Greinke hit Carlos Quentin on the left shoulder with a pitch.

The slugger started walking toward the mound and Greinke appeared to say something. Quentin then charged the 2009 AL Cy Young Award winner. They dropped their shoulders and collided, and Quentin tackled the pitcher to the grass.

SouthStndJunkie
04-18-2013, 09:41 AM
Interesting game between the Tigers and Mariners last night.

The Tigers won 2-1 in 14 innings.

There were a total of 40 strikeouts in the game.

Max Scherzer and Felix Hernandez both pitched gems, but obviously got no decisions.

I was up until after 2:30 am and thought it was over when Detroit scored in the top of the 14th.

Seattle almost tied it back up in the bottom of the 14th, but Torii Hunter made a nice throw from RF to Prince Fielder, who fired a bullet to backup catcher Brayan Pena, who held on to the ball, despite a big collision at the plate with Justin Smoak for the final out of the game.

Requiem
04-18-2013, 09:44 AM
That was a heck of a game, Junkie. Congrats to your Tigers.

Scherzer and Hernandez were both on fire. I feel sorry for Felix. Nobody can hit for this team. If he played on a team that scored runs he would get 20 wins a year. It is just beyond sad. Twenty-five years from now, people will look at his W-L record and think he wasn't great, despite being arguably THE BEST or one of the top three pitchers in baseball since coming into the league.

The Mariners are a joke. Ackley sucks. Smoak is still doing bleh. Montero hasn't panned out.

Great thing we traded Adam Jones to Baltimore for poop arm Erik Bedard. JFC.

SouthStndJunkie
04-18-2013, 02:07 PM
Yep....Felix Hernandez is one of the top few pitchers in baseball and gets little to no run support in Seattle.

Dude has 99 career wins and should have about 130 wins with they way he has pitched.

SouthStndJunkie
04-18-2013, 02:46 PM
Derek Jeter had a CT scan of his injured ankle on Thursday that revealed a small crack, delaying the All-Star shortstop's return to the New York Yankees until at least midseason.

Lestat
04-18-2013, 05:24 PM
like anyone not named Steinbrenner couldn't see this coming with a old team.
ugh!

TonyR
04-18-2013, 06:01 PM
like anyone not named Steinbrenner couldn't see this coming with a old team.
ugh!

Considering they're missing Jeter, Granderson, Teixeira, and ARod, I'm impressed they're doing as well as they are.

DBroncos4life
04-18-2013, 06:19 PM
like anyone not named Steinbrenner couldn't see this coming with a old team.
ugh!

Do you guys need Don Mattingly back?

SouthStndJunkie
04-18-2013, 06:28 PM
Do you guys need Don Mattingly back?

I think they're bringing Ron Guidry out of retirement.

Old "Louisiana Lightning" told them he's easily got 260 innings in that golden left arm this season.

Lestat
04-18-2013, 06:31 PM
Do you guys need Don Mattingly back?

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/obama-aw-hell-naw-500x319.jpg

Considering they're missing Jeter, Granderson, Teixeira, and ARod, I'm impressed they're doing as well as they are.

I have no issue with how they're doing. my issue lies in relying heavily on aging vets who are on their last leg and hoping no one gets hurt so that they can contend.
we have little to no depth behind those guys and then the controlling Steinbrenner was stunned that Yanks fans were hella pissed when they didn't do anything to improve the team in the off-season and were too busy trying to get under the austerity budget threshold and recoup some money.
now we find out the actual savings is pennies on the dollar and pointless.

DBroncos4life
04-18-2013, 06:35 PM
I think they're bringing Ron Guidry out of retirement.

Old "Louisiana Lightning" told them he's easily got 260 innings in that golden left arm this season.

Ha ha nice!

elsid13
04-18-2013, 07:14 PM
Lester continue to pitch well, nice rebound for him.

TonyR
04-18-2013, 07:24 PM
...we find out the actual savings is pennies on the dollar and pointless.

What did we find out? Has something changed since what I posted in post #31 in this thread?

broncosteven
04-18-2013, 07:48 PM
Chris Sale is teh suck this year... It is a good think Detroit is keeping us in this race. I expected them to run away with the division this year.

SouthStndJunkie
04-19-2013, 12:14 PM
http://www.freep.com/article/20130419/SPORTS02/304190052/Comparing-detroit-Tigers-Miguel-Cabrera-at-30-with-the-all-time-greats

Comparing Tigers' Miguel Cabrera at 30 with the all-time greats

Miguel Cabrera turned 30 on Thursday. CBSSports.com's Danny Knobler put his stats against other great hitters' at that age:

1,822 HITS:

He's not in the all-time top 10, but he's ahead of Derek Jeter (1,619) and Pete Rose (1,547). And 15 behind Al Kaline's 1,837.

323 HOME RUNS:

That's 11th on the all-time list, led by Alex Rodriguez's 409. It's only 19 homers short of Henry Aaron's pace at that age.

1,140 RBIs

Cabrera is sixth on the all-time list, behind Jimmie Foxx, Mel Ott, Lou Gehrig, Rodriguez and Ken Griffey Jr.

725 EXTRA-BASE HITS:

That's eighth, trailing only A-Rod, Foxx, Griffey, Aaron, Albert Pujols, Ott and Lou Gehrig. (Via ESPN.com's Jayson Stark.)

.318 BATTING AVERAGE:

Kaline was hitting .307 when he turned 30, A-Rod .306, Griffey .299, Pujols .334 and Ty Cobb an incredible .369.

SouthStndJunkie
04-19-2013, 12:15 PM
Miggy's 1,140 RBIs really stand out to me....that's a lot of rib eyes to be at on your 30th birthday.

v2micca
04-19-2013, 12:20 PM
Well, My Braves are off to hot start keyed by the monster first month from Justin Upton and some shut down dominance by our entire pitching staff. And the legend of El Oso Blanco just continues to grow.

Paladin
04-19-2013, 11:07 PM
LOL Don't worry. Tomorrow they begin a series against reality.

Which "reality" is that?

:yayaya:

BroncosfanGuy
04-19-2013, 11:15 PM
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guy tries to steal 3rd and ends up safe at 1st instead

broncocalijohn
04-20-2013, 12:55 AM
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guy tries to steal 3rd and ends up safe at 1st instead

The best scenario ever! I thought there was a rule years ago of a player not being able to steal the same base twice in one inning. I remember reading about a player that used to toy with the opposing team by stealing bases and then "stealing" back to the previous base only to steal the base again. That was an unusual circumstances and I would love to hear the correct ruling if this was wrong when it happened. Pure awesome and should be played for all up and coming umpires. Great post BFG.

broncocalijohn
04-20-2013, 01:02 AM
How is Juan Uribe still in the majors. Last two years he batted .204 and .191. Now he is batting a impressive .000 while making 21 million dollars over these three seasons.


You can have Gary Mathews Jr and his stats for that type of money. Oh, steroids can come with it too.

Angels destroy Tigers in Hunter's first game back to Anaheim, 8 to 1.

SouthStndJunkie
04-20-2013, 02:11 AM
5 more wins just like that and the Angels will be .500.

I always hate playing the Angels, it seems like they usually smack the Tigers around when they play on the West Coast.

TheChamp24
04-20-2013, 10:01 AM
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guy tries to steal 3rd and ends up safe at 1st instead

What is this, I don't even.
Like...wat. Mind blown

Dukes
04-20-2013, 10:11 AM
Rockies have won 7 in a row. I hope I'm wrong about them, but I still think their lack of decent pitchers will derail them.

spdirty
04-20-2013, 10:12 AM
Which "reality" is that?

:yayaya:

That was the Giants. And they got swept. I'll give them this though. The starting pitching has been excellent for the most part. Especially Chacin and Garland. But of course their best pitcher gets hurt last night. Hope it isn't anything that would keep him out for awhile.

Hopefully they are good enough to keep my interest until Broncos training camp starts. It'd be nice to go onto the lake and listen to them while I'm fishing with my boys this summer and actually care about what they do.

TheChamp24
04-20-2013, 10:41 AM
Rockies have won 7 in a row. I hope I'm wrong about them, but I still think their lack of decent pitchers will derail them.

The bullpen is pretty solid at least, but yeah the starting pitching is something to worry about.
Chacin seems to be on his game though(hopefully injury isn't serious), and his control is down. Nicasio needs his control to get better. Then maybe Pomeranz will be able to hone his skills and be called up if someone falters or gets injured.

Dukes
04-20-2013, 11:12 AM
The bullpen is pretty solid at least, but yeah the starting pitching is something to worry about.
Chacin seems to be on his game though(hopefully injury isn't serious), and his control is down. Nicasio needs his control to get better. Then maybe Pomeranz will be able to hone his skills and be called up if someone falters or gets injured.

Still drives me crazy they traded Jason Hammel for a guy they later traded. He not going to set the world on fire, but he is a solid pitcher who could be a solid #2 or #3 in this rotation.

Lestat
04-20-2013, 12:06 PM
how is that even legal? you start and 2nd and go backwards?

TheChamp24
04-20-2013, 10:44 PM
Still drives me crazy they traded Jason Hammel for a guy they later traded. He not going to set the world on fire, but he is a solid pitcher who could be a solid #2 or #3 in this rotation.

Hammel isn't that good, but trading him for Guthrie was just retarded.
And then the Rockies traded Guthrie for Jonathan Sanchez right? I don't remember.
Hammel way overachieved last year, he was a borderline okay #4 starter. Thing is, he's 30 years old already. Its not like he will get better.

broncocalijohn
04-20-2013, 11:31 PM
5 more wins just like that and the Angels will be .500.

I always hate playing the Angels, it seems like they usually smack the Tigers around when they play on the West Coast.

I remember about 4 years ago when Detroit came into town and we scored over 10 runs in all 3 games. It was free food at Claim Jumper for all 3 days plus Hooters had a promotion on one of the days. Filled up nicely.

Well, you had a great 2nd to 8th inning with just 1 run scored against your pitching. Too bad you let the Angels score 9 in the first inning. No sophomore slump for Trout it looks like. Grand salami in the first.

SouthStndJunkie
04-21-2013, 07:00 PM
The Angels sweep with Tigers with a 4-3 win in 13 innings today.

Tigers head back to Detroit with their tails between their legs.

DBroncos4life
04-22-2013, 04:10 PM
http://daps.tv/source-robinson-cano-alex-rodriguez-ryan-braun-and-curtis-granderson-to-be-suspended/
A Rod, Cano, Granderson, and Braun to be suspended?
Crazy if true.

Per ESPN Cano is being looked at for ties with that Miami PED deal.

broncosteven
04-22-2013, 04:16 PM
The Angels sweep with Tigers with a 4-3 win in 13 innings today.

Tigers head back to Detroit with their tails between their legs.

Who knew KC would be leading our division. Maybe it will take the Tigers a month to get back on track and dominate or it could just be anyones race if they can't get it together. Too bad for the WS, a couple bad plays have cost them a couple games or they would be in it as well.

Tombstone RJ
04-22-2013, 04:28 PM
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guy tries to steal 3rd and ends up safe at 1st instead

I didn't think you could have two guys on the same base at the same time?

Tombstone RJ
04-22-2013, 04:32 PM
I think the umpire called the wrong guy out?

broncosteven
04-22-2013, 04:38 PM
I didn't think you could have two guys on the same base at the same time?

The 2nd guy is out Brahm. The guy who ran back to 1st must have been confused and ran back to the base he started at. If he would have just stood there he could have kept 2nd base.

BroncosfanGuy
04-22-2013, 04:50 PM
I didn't think you could have two guys on the same base at the same time?

Braun was called out for that reason

COWheatGrower
04-22-2013, 05:23 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130422&content_id=45473356&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

Rockies are fourth in the latest power rankings. Where is the excitement?

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SouthStndJunkie
04-26-2013, 09:59 PM
The Tigers shut out the Braves 10-0 tonight.

Anibal Sanchez has been tossing some gems this season.

Tonight's line: 8 innings 5 hits 0 ER 1 BB 17 Ks.

17 freaking Ks....Sanchez broke Mickey Lolich's team record of 16 strikeouts when he fanned three in the eighth inning.

Aftermath
04-26-2013, 10:55 PM
The Tigers shut out the Braves 10-0 tonight.

Anibal Sanchez has been tossing some gems this season.

Tonight's line: 8 innings 5 hits 0 ER 1 BB 17 Ks.

17 freaking Ks....Sanchez broke Mickey Lolich's team record of 16 strikeouts when he fanned three in the eighth inning.

Tonight was incredible, what a game!

Paladin
04-26-2013, 11:00 PM
Rockies finally pulled one out tonight..... Hope Gregorius is fine.....

SouthStndJunkie
05-04-2013, 09:18 PM
The Tigers ass throttled the Astros 17-2 today.

I know I'm biased, but I've watched a lot of baseball in my life and Miguel Cabrera is one of the best hitters I've ever seen. I watch him play almost every night and a continually amazed at how smart of a hitter he is at the plate. It's worth the price of admission to watch that dude rake.

4 for 4 with 2 HRs and 6 RBIs today. Batting .390 on the season with 6 HRs and 36 RBIs in 29 games.

The Tigers have the bats and the starting pitching to win the World Series....they just need to play solid defense and get some solid relief pitching and they should be in the mix.

SouthStndJunkie
05-05-2013, 08:03 PM
Justin Verlander took a no-hitter into the 7th inning today, before giving up a hit with one out.

JV already has 2 no hitters in his career and has had some other very close calls.

4-2 with an ERA of 1.55 on the season and it looks like his velocity is kicking up a notch with each start.

The Astros are futile this year....8 and 24 on the season and Detroit outscored them 37-8 in a 4 game sweep.

Requiem
05-05-2013, 08:09 PM
Verlander and Felix, top two in the game. Justin is so much fun to watch.

SouthStndJunkie
05-05-2013, 08:30 PM
Verlander and Felix, top two in the game. Justin is so much fun to watch.

Felix is a lot of fun to watch as well.

Felix pitched a gem against Toronto the other night.

Both pitchers are off to similar starts this season:

JV: 4-2 with a 1.55 ERA and 50 Ks.

Felix: 4-2 with a 1.60 ERA and 51 Ks.

Watching great pitchers like those 2 ply their trade is beautiful to watch.

bombay
05-05-2013, 08:43 PM
Cardinals just keep rolling along.

Heyneck
05-05-2013, 08:49 PM
Verlander and Felix, top two in the game. Justin is so much fun to watch.

Thank god my GIANTS own him! Specially Panda!!!

DBroncos4life
05-05-2013, 08:49 PM
Did anyone see Donnie Dum Dum waste an out trying to bunt Dee Gordon over to second? Like the guy can't steal second himself. The fact that it took them so long to call up Gordon in the first place just shows how bad the managing is in LA. Sellers is hot garbage, Gordon has already has more RBI's in 7 at bats then Sellers had in 68. Also he is batting .429 vs .191. Small sample size but, Gordon is just flat out better then Sellers.

Heyneck
05-05-2013, 08:51 PM
The Tigers ass throttled the Astros 17-2 today.

I know I'm biased, but I've watched a lot of baseball in my life and Miguel Cabrera is one of the best hitters I've ever seen. I watch him play almost every night and a continually amazed at how smart of a hitter he is at the plate. It's worth the price of admission to watch that dude rake.

4 for 4 with 2 HRs and 6 RBIs today. Batting .390 on the season with 6 HRs and 36 RBIs in 29 games.

The Tigers have the bats and the starting pitching to win the World Series....they just need to play solid defense and get some solid relief pitching and they should be in the mix, and hope to god they don't have to face the Giants!

Fixed!

Heyneck
05-05-2013, 08:53 PM
Did anyone see Donnie Dum Dum waste an out trying to bunt Dee Gordon over to second? Like the guy can't steal second himself. The fact that it took them so long to call up Gordon in the first place just shows how bad the managing is in LA. Sellers is hot garbage, Gordon has already has more RBI's in 7 at bats then Sellers had in 68. Also he is batting .429 vs .191. Small sample size but, Gordon is just flat out better then Sellers.

Yup... they fooled their fan base that their 200 + million payroll would buy them a ring. Lol! They have the same wins that the Pads and have a payroll that is almost 3 times what the Pads pay.

DBroncos4life
05-05-2013, 08:55 PM
Yup... they fooled their fan base that their 200 + million payroll would buy them a ring. Lol! They have the same wins that the Pads and have a payroll that is almost 3 times what the Pads pay.

It's coaching it's not the players.

SouthStndJunkie
05-05-2013, 08:55 PM
Thank god my GIANTS own him! Specially Panda!!!

What's up with Tim Lincecum's new haircut?

He looks like a 40 year old lesbian now.

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Heyneck
05-05-2013, 09:03 PM
It's coaching it's not the players.

While true that their GM sucks, they aren't the one out there batting. They have a bunch of "superstars" that can't hit with RISP even if they life depended on it. They have no clue what is the meaning of clutch. Feel so sry for Kershaw. He is my favorite player outside my Giants.

Mattingly does suck, but his players have been in position to win games or do something when it must count, yet they have failed most of the time.

The season is still young, they will get healthier and put a better product on the field. But will it be enough to keep that pace with SF and COL?

Heyneck
05-05-2013, 09:05 PM
What's up with Tim Lincecum's new haircut?

He looks like a 40 year old lesbian now.

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LOL!!! I know!!! Dude totally lost his mojo (he has been servicable this year though)!!!

DBroncos4life
05-05-2013, 09:26 PM
While true that their GM sucks, they aren't the one out there batting. They have a bunch of "superstars" that can't hit with RISP even if they life depended on it. They have no clue what is the meaning of clutch. Feel so sry for Kershaw. He is my favorite player outside my Giants.

Mattingly does suck, but his players have been in position to win games or do something when it must count, yet they have failed most of the time.

The season is still young, they will get healthier and put a better product on the field. But will it be enough to keep that pace with SF and COL?

My brother is a Giants fan an he even knows that Donnie is the reason they are not winning. He changes the line up every day and plays AL ball. Puig needa to be moved up and Either needs traded for a 2nd baseman. Like I said earlier Dee Gordon should have been the SS all year not Sellers. That is poor coaching decision making.

Hopefully this gets Donnie fired and Bobby Cox is brought in.

Heyneck
05-05-2013, 09:49 PM
My brother is a Giants fan an he even knows that Donnie is the reason they are not winning. He changes the line up every day and plays AL ball. Puig needa to be moved up and Either needs traded for a 2nd baseman. Like I said earlier Dee Gordon should have been the SS all year not Sellers. That is poor coaching decision making.

Hopefully this gets Donnie fired and Bobby Cox is brought in.

Again, agree Mattingly has done a terrible job, but again... is not like their player aren't underachieving. Kershaw has the same number of HR as Kemp. Lol!!! That overpaid lineup has no chemistry. Their SP have sucked outside of Kershaw and maybe Ryu.

Again, totally agree that Mattingly is their main problem, but they have to clean house and start building and believing in their farm system.

DBroncos4life
05-05-2013, 10:08 PM
Again, agree Mattingly has done a terrible job, but again... is not like their player aren't underachieving. Kershaw has the same number of HR as Kemp. Lol!!! That overpaid lineup has no chemistry. Their SP have sucked outside of Kershaw and maybe Ryu.

Again, totally agree that Mattingly is their main problem, but they have to clean house and start building and believing in their farm system.

Kemp is coming back from shoulder surgery, I'm not sure why you don't think that is the issue with his power right now. Again it is hard to get chemistry with a retard manager changing the line up everyday. LA had one game where it could have had the full line up and he sat Crawford to rest him. That was just last week.

Also I knew you would talk about the farm system. It is now ranked 13th, while the Giants is ranked last. Ha! Puig is the 8th ranked player, Joc Pederson is 38, and Zac Lee is 51. They are rebuilding the farm, it just takes more then a season. Also the GM doesn't bring up young talent. He sucks too!!! Puig and Pederson play OF, so Ethier should be turned into a 2nd and Puig should be brought up.
Van Slyke should be brought up to back up first base if Gonzo is out for a long period of time. He is tearing it up in AAA and deserves a shot. He's only hitting .404 with 9 homeruns, 27 rbis, and slugging percentage of .760. We will still go with Urine instead though because he is so f'ing great. :spit:

Heyneck
05-05-2013, 10:33 PM
Kemp is coming back from shoulder surgery, I'm not sure why you don't think that is the issue with his power right now. Again it is hard to get chemistry with a retard manager changing the line up everyday. LA had one game where it could have had the full line up and he sat Crawford to rest him. That was just last week.

Also I knew you would talk about the farm system. It is now ranked 13th, while the Giants is ranked last. Ha! Puig is the 8th ranked player, Joc Pederson is 38, and Zac Lee is 51. They are rebuilding the farm, it just takes more then a season. Also the GM doesn't bring up young talent. He sucks too!!! Puig and Pederson play OF, so Either should be turned into a 2nd and Puig should be brought up.
Van Slyke should be brought up to back up first base if Gonzo is out for a long period of time. He is tearing it up in AAA and deserves a shot. He's only hitting .404 with 9 homeruns, 27 rbis, and slugging percentage of .760. We will still go with Urine instead though because he is so f'ing great. :spit:

Who cares what our current farm system looks like right now? About 90% of our roster is homegrown. Our core players are signed for the long run. Plus if there's something that Saban is good at, is at building and stacking up our farm. He rarely trades our top prospects... (cough cough Zack Wheeler... though he is sucking in AAA).

LA has a lot of problems right now. Kemp has been struggling since last year and they have been hit hard by the injury bug. Still that is no excuse. In 2011 not once during the whole season did we start our projected lineup, we still ended up wining 86 games.

You guys can hit for singles, but cant hit a lick for power. Puig is not a power hitter, you could end up bringing a player and shatter his confidence if he doesn't do well like Bochy did with Belt the first couple of times they brought him up.

PS. Cruz should not be MLB player.

DBroncos4life
05-05-2013, 10:34 PM
Who cares what our current farm system looks like right now? About 90% of our roster is homegrown. Our core players are signed for the long run. Plus if there's something that Saban is good at, is at building and stacking up our farm. He rarely trades our top prospects... (cough cough Zack Wheeler... though he is sucking in AAA).

LA has a lot of problems right now. Kemp has been struggling since last year and they have been hit hard by the injury bug. Still that is no excuse. In 2011 not once during the whole season did we start our projected lineup, we still ended up wining 86 games.

You guys can hit for singles, but cant hit a lick for power. Puig is not a power hitter, you could end up bringing a player and shatter his confidence if he doesn't do well like Bochy did with Belt the first couple of times they brought him up.

PS. Cruz should not be MLB player.

Puig is not a power hitter Ha!:spit: WOW

Heyneck
05-05-2013, 10:57 PM
Puig is not a power hitter Ha!:spit: WOW

Uhh yeah! I stand by that! The dude has hit only 3 doubles, 1 triple and 5 HR in 19 hits out of 66 AB. Sure, the HR % number is pretty nice... but that is in freaking AA! Lol!!! Buster Posey skipped AA because the FO knew he would rape the hell out of that league.

You guys bring up Puig and if he struggles you will shatter his confidence with the crappy chemistry in that club.

DBroncos4life
05-05-2013, 11:05 PM
Uhh yeah! I stand by that! The dude has hit only 3 doubles, 1 triple and 5 HR in 19 hits out of 66 AB. Sure, the HR % number is pretty nice... but that is in freaking AA! Lol!!! Buster Posey skipped AA because the FO knew he would rape the hell out of that league.

You guys bring up Puig and if he struggles you will shatter his confidence with the crappy chemistry in that club.

LOL, I'm not even going to justify this with anymore responses. If you don't know why Puig is stuck in the minors right now I don't know what to tell you.

Heyneck
05-05-2013, 11:24 PM
LOL, I'm not even going to justify this with anymore responses. If you don't know why Puig is stuck in the minors right now I don't know what to tell you.

Because that Magical FO of yours is spending a huge amount of cash on 3 OF... with what Puig is making you could say 4. And he ain't even contributing to the team lol. Kemp is sucking bad, Either is way overrated, and Crawford is the only one of the that is constantly producing. Though he is starting to come down to earth after his hot start. And that even makes it worst for you right now, because about the only chance of seeing Puig come up is for 1 of them getting injured for the long run or traded. And the most obvious choice for those categories would be Crawford but by the way things are going that is unlikely to happen.

bombay
05-11-2013, 12:44 PM
Cardinal rookie Shelby Miller gave up a hit to open the game last night against the Rockies, then recorded 27 consecutive outs. 13 Ks. One of the better pitching performances I've ever seen.

bombay
05-11-2013, 12:53 PM
After three innings today, the Rockies have made 36 consecutive outs.

43 consecutive Rockies were retired before Helton walked in the 5th.

bombay
05-11-2013, 02:31 PM
Rockies break up Wainwright's no hit attempt with one out in the 8th. They made 48 outs between hits.

TheChamp24
05-12-2013, 02:26 PM
Rockies went 28 consecutive innings without scoring a run. Wow.
Probably the best pitching they will have all year in a week and the most wins they'll get out of it is 2.

SoCalBronco
05-12-2013, 07:23 PM
Chris Sale perfect thru 6. Unfortunately the White Sox haven't given him any run support. 0-0

TonyR
05-13-2013, 07:42 AM
Good read on the amazing job Brian Cashman has done putting together this patchwork Yankees team of has-beens and never-weres that was understandably all but written off for this season and yet is currently tied for the 2nd best record in MLB. No Jeter, no Granderson, no Texeira, no A Rod, lost Swisher and Martin in FA, key fill in Kevin Youkilis hurt, and yet only the Texas Rangers have a better record by a half a game. Also have to give Joe Girardi some credit for managing this could be train wreck.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/35767/these-yankees-arent-going-away-so-soon

BroncosfanGuy
05-13-2013, 12:29 PM
congrats on staying competitive with the league's highest payroll (http://deadspin.com/2013-payrolls-and-salaries-for-every-mlb-team-462765594)

TonyR
05-13-2013, 12:56 PM
congrats on staying competitive with the league's highest payroll (http://deadspin.com/2013-payrolls-and-salaries-for-every-mlb-team-462765594)

That's a lazy argument. But also a predicatable one.

First, the Yankees payroll is overstated because they pay a Yankee/NYC "tax". In other words, they have to pay more because they're the New York Yankees.

Second, that number is skewed by contracts like that of Vernon Wells. It shows he's making $25 million but that number doesn't look right (see here http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/new-york-yankees/vernon-wells/ for example) and, to the extent it is correct, the Yankees are paying only a portion of that because the Angels are picking up a large portion of what he's owed. It also includes $10 million in dead money for A.J. Burnett and Rafael Soriano.

Third, a huge portion of their payroll hasn't played yet this year. From your link over $84 million (that's over 37%!) of their payroll is owed to players who haven't yet played. Add Kevin Youkilis, who is currently out, and you get over $96 million (over 42%!).

If you don't think what the Yankees have accomplished with the garbage lineup they put out there is notable then you clearly don't follow MLB very closely. They're missing 6 of their regulars from last season, and probably 4 of their 5 best players, and somehow have the 2nd best record in baseball.

But, haters gonna hate.

broncocalijohn
05-13-2013, 03:00 PM
congrats on staying competitive with the league's highest payroll (http://deadspin.com/2013-payrolls-and-salaries-for-every-mlb-team-462765594)


I think he fairly described many top guys out for part or the whole season. When I saw the Yankees record yesterday, I was surprised they have been that good with all their injuries. Hell, Vernon Wells is loving his time in NY. Too bad he couldn't do that in Anaheim while being paid a huge salary.

bombay
05-13-2013, 03:47 PM
I think he fairly described many top guys out for part or the whole season. When I saw the Yankees record yesterday, I was surprised they have been that good with all their injuries. Hell, Vernon Wells is loving his time in NY. Too bad he couldn't do that in Anaheim while being paid a huge salary.


Artie doesn't seem to be getting his money's worth from any of his big name free agents.

Requiem
05-13-2013, 04:54 PM
I am waiting for Jay Buhner and Edgar Martinez to come out of retirement and give the Mariners with someone who can average above .250 and slam 25+ homers. Yeah, we really don't have that.

ludo21
05-13-2013, 05:02 PM
Rockies went 28 consecutive innings without scoring a run. Wow.
Probably the best pitching they will have all year in a week and the most wins they'll get out of it is 2.

thanks for this :thumbs: D Backs able to gain so ground although the bullpen continues to dissapoint

BroncosfanGuy
05-13-2013, 05:20 PM
That's a lazy argument. But also a predicatable one.

First, the Yankees payroll is overstated because they pay a Yankee/NYC "tax". In other words, they have to pay more because they're the New York Yankees.

Second, that number is skewed by contracts like that of Vernon Wells. It shows he's making $25 million but that number doesn't look right (see here http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/new-york-yankees/vernon-wells/ for example) and, to the extent it is correct, the Yankees are paying only a portion of that because the Angels are picking up a large portion of what he's owed. It also includes $10 million in dead money for A.J. Burnett and Rafael Soriano.

Third, a huge portion of their payroll hasn't played yet this year. From your link over $84 million (that's over 37%!) of their payroll is owed to players who haven't yet played. Add Kevin Youkilis, who is currently out, and you get over $96 million (over 42%!).

If you don't think what the Yankees have accomplished with the garbage lineup they put out there is notable then you clearly don't follow MLB very closely. They're missing 6 of their regulars from last season, and probably 4 of their 5 best players, and somehow have the 2nd best record in baseball.

But, haters gonna hate.
what Oakland did last year is more impressive than what NYY are doing right now. What Gardy and the Twins did through the early to mid-aughts was more impressive than what the NYY are doing now. Sorry, not all that impressed that the Yankees are currently sitting in 1st place on May 13 with the highest payroll in beisbol. I don't care if their roster is overpaid, injured and/or overaged. It's just not that impressive a feat to me. They are missing 6 of their regulars, but have the luxury of buying one of the deepest rosters in the majors. It's not like the Yanks are fielding a AAAA team even after the injuries. If that not impressing me means I'm not a baseball superfan, I am ok with that

TonyR
05-13-2013, 06:53 PM
It's just not that impressive a feat to me...

Go look at the lineup they trotted out today and tell me, other than Robinson Cano, which guy you'd want starting for your team, whoever that might be. Go ahead, take a look. How many of them have you ever even heard of?

BroncosfanGuy
05-13-2013, 07:20 PM
Go look at the lineup they trotted out today and tell me, other than Robinson Cano, which guy you'd want started for your team, whoever that might be. Go ahead, take a look. How many of them have you ever even heard of?

all but Corban Joseph and Romine I've heard of.

Gardner and old Ichiro are easy upgrades over Aaron Hicks
Hafner could DH for probably half the AL teams--his issue has been health not talent
Cano is obvious
Boesch was a regular for the Tigers as a fringe starter/4th OF and would find a role with any other MLB team

If we are looking solely at lineups, sure it's impressive. But this is a team that's able to mask deficiencies in one area because they vastly overspend on bats, SP, and RP when compared to the rest of the market. So yeah, the bats are watered down, but they are still trotting CC, Kiroda, Rivera, Robertson, etal out there. And again, it's May 13.

Requiem
05-13-2013, 08:24 PM
I am an upgrade over Aaron Hicks. Batting in the .180s is just pathetic.

BroncosfanGuy
05-13-2013, 08:26 PM
I am an upgrade over Aaron Hicks. Batting in the .180s is just pathetic.

with that average he could be hitting right behind Michael Saunders in Seattle

ETA: that's a joke, btw. I like the M's too. That Pineda-Montero trade is looking like a big dud for both sides right now. Not sure what they are going to do as far as getting competent bats at the plate, but they need to figure it out. Felix is locked down and Safeco (even with the new dimensions) is a pitcher's haven. They made a few moves this past offseason, but it's gonna take a bigger boat than Kendrys and Morse. I think the plan was for Montero and Ackley to be cornerstones and neither one can get going at the plate.

TonyR
05-13-2013, 08:28 PM
...it's May 13.

I'm well aware of this. I'm not crowning the Yanks. I don't expect them to be in the championship mix. My point is/was that I'm surprised how well they've done with a patchwork team that is gearing up to shed payroll to get under the luxury tax and that is missing $90 million worth of players. If the bottom falls out tomorrow I won't be surprised.

bombay
05-13-2013, 10:03 PM
My Cardinals are in the playoffs every season with a payroll around $110 million. They have a very young roster, and new studs emerge every season. I'd hate to be a fan of any other team.

They're currently 24-13. I don't think anyone has a better record, but don't care much.

Requiem
05-14-2013, 07:34 AM
with that average he could be hitting right behind Michael Saunders in Seattle

ETA: that's a joke, btw. I like the M's too. That Pineda-Montero trade is looking like a big dud for both sides right now. Not sure what they are going to do as far as getting competent bats at the plate, but they need to figure it out. Felix is locked down and Safeco (even with the new dimensions) is a pitcher's haven. They made a few moves this past offseason, but it's gonna take a bigger boat than Kendrys and Morse. I think the plan was for Montero and Ackley to be cornerstones and neither one can get going at the plate.

Saunders is actually coming around. He is a legitimate every day player. It is a shame that Franklin Gutierrez can never stay healthy. I expect him to be traded for scraps somewhere in the near future. We could have had a legit outfield had he ever panned out.

Montero, Ackley and Smoak are good enough for the 25 man roster, but might not be every day players. It hurts that these are all whiffs. Those guys probably deserve the rest of this year and then some, but I am not holding my breath on either of them. Ackley's new batting stance is ridiculous. The good thing with Ackley is his strike outs are down, but he isn't as patient at the plate and isn't getting walked a lot.

Smoak is actually having his best year, but isn't hitting for much power. His OBP is way higher than it was last year. He still hacks at it a ton. He is seeing a few more pitches this year, but damn, last year was a nightmare. With his dad passing in 2012, I felt like he mentally wasn't there. My guess is at some point in time he gets dealt too.

As far as Montero goes, I have no idea what his deal is this year. I was OK with his performance last year, but he isn't catching or hitting well. He isn't a good enough hitter to be DH, and we already have a guy who can't field well or hit for **** in Smoak at 1B.

I don't think we call up Zunino this year at catcher. He dominated A, AA -- but it struggling a bit right now with AAA Tacoma. Defensively he is + grade and way better than Montero, but he still has to get used to major league caliber pitching. We don't need to stunt his development quite yet. I would expect a September call-up for him to get some at bats, but that is about it.

So in short: Yeah, it is disappointing.

If Montero, Smoak, Ackley all lived up to potential things would be awesome. Probably not going to happen.

Requiem
05-14-2013, 02:41 PM
And yes Houghtam, Seager has been a pleasant surprise. He is a good ball player.

Rascal
05-14-2013, 02:56 PM
Dietrich is batting third...interesting

broncocalijohn
05-14-2013, 03:18 PM
Artie doesn't seem to be getting his money's worth from any of his big name free agents.

Nope and he didn't learn from hamilton. I would throw Hamilton nothing but breaking balls in the dirt. Add a lefty and he is toast. We needed arms and all fans I know stated the same. Greinke leaving was huge. We are getting away from small ball, Scioscia style and it makes the team worse. We should be winning 8 to 7 with this batting lineup. Instead we are losing 6 to 2.

SouthStndJunkie
05-19-2013, 06:03 PM
Tigers and Rangers coming up on Sunday Night Baseball.

SouthStndJunkie
05-19-2013, 06:03 PM
I love this commercial:

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SouthStndJunkie
05-19-2013, 06:05 PM
And yes Houghtam, Seager has been a pleasant surprise. He is a good ball player.

Where is Houghtam?

I haven't seen him posting for a long time.

SouthStndJunkie
05-19-2013, 06:21 PM
Doug Fister aka The Dog Fister is pitching for the Tigers tonight.

I love watching him pitch....he reminds me of a poor man's Greg Maddux when he's locating his pitches like he is capable of.

SouthStndJunkie
05-19-2013, 06:55 PM
Miggy goes yard to give Detroit a 3-1 lead.

Batting .380 on the season with 9 HRs and 45 RBIs in 42 games.

bombay
05-19-2013, 07:28 PM
The Cardinals now have two starters from their opening day roster - Jake Westbrook and Jaime Garcia - on the DL. They keep winning, though, rookie lefty named Gast won his 2nd game today. 28-15.

SouthStndJunkie
05-19-2013, 07:38 PM
BOOM!

Miggy with another HR tonight....broke out the big bat for Sunday Night Baseball.

Batting .384 with 10 HRs and 46 RBIs.

SouthStndJunkie
05-19-2013, 08:38 PM
Prince Fielder makes the Rangers pay for intentionally walking Miggy to load the bases with 2 outs.

3 run double for Fielder to give the Tigers a 7-5 lead.

That's the beauty of having a bat like Prince Fielder's batting behind Miggy in the lineup.

You know it chapped Prince to see someone getting intentionally walked to load the bases with him coming to the plate.

SouthStndJunkie
05-19-2013, 08:51 PM
Dammit....Texas is a tough team to play.

No lead is safe in that ball park.

DBroncos4life
05-19-2013, 09:02 PM
I’ve seen the Dodgers twice in person this season, and both times came away thinking that the team would be OK, that manager Don Mattingly would survive.

Now I’m convinced that Mattingly is going to get fired. And the sooner it happens, the better.

The players like Mattingly. Club executives insist his lame-duck status is not an issue. But I’ve seen it too many times with unproven managers who are in the final years of contracts.

A team struggles. A manager’s personality turns. A cloud forms over a club.

Watch the games, listen to Mattingly and tell me this is not happening to the Dodgers.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/los-angeles-manager-don-mattingly-could-be-fired-soon-after-team-swept-by-atlanta-braves-051913

thank the lord

DBroncos4life
05-19-2013, 09:15 PM
Rumor is that the Dodgers are scheduling a press conf. Sounds like Donnie will be fired soon!

SouthStndJunkie
05-19-2013, 09:36 PM
Another HR for Miggy....3 HRs on the night.

Too bad the Tigers are still getting beat 11-8.

broncocalijohn
05-19-2013, 11:14 PM
I am an upgrade over Aaron Hicks. Batting in the .180s is just pathetic.

Adam Dunn under .170. You either get a homerun or a strikeout. Not that is pathetic. Konerko is batting under .248 with 4 homeruns. Good time for Angels to at least split that series.

Paladin
05-20-2013, 11:54 AM
Snakes in Denver tonigh0t. Rockies may stomp the Snakes and gain a tie in the West.

TonyR
05-20-2013, 01:27 PM
Montero...

Speaking of Montero...

At this moment, Jesus Montero is a terrible baseball player. He's an out machine and an awful base runner, his supposedly legendary raw power not showing up often enough to make up for his other flaws. But what truly makes Montero among the very worst players in the big leagues — someone who shouldn't have anything close to an everyday gig — is his unbelievably bad defense. http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9293894/jonah-keri-ranks-mlb-teams

As a Yankee fan this makes the Pineda disaster a little more palatable.

Requiem
05-20-2013, 01:49 PM
I agree with all those points. He was acquired for his + power and he can't hit worth piss. Sooner or later he will get optioned to AAA to get his swing back (if he can find it) and we will play Shoppach at C. Montero has no future as a catcher. He will have no future in baseball if he cannot hit. He would become the DH whenever Zunino gets called up, which is likely September.

I just cannot believe he got worse after a decent showing last year. Then again, that is the Mariners luck. Trade away Adam Jones for bum-armed Erik Bedard, crap the bed with Smoak, Ackley and Montero. Guiterrez always being an injured bum.

I see that we blew the game away in the 9th today and now it is extra innings against Cleveland because of an error on the pitcher. Wee!

70 wins here we come!

Lestat
05-20-2013, 04:12 PM
Speaking of Montero...

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9293894/jonah-keri-ranks-mlb-teams

As a Yankee fan this makes the Pineda disaster a little more palatable.

yep, Pineda is supposedly doing really well in his rehab so hopefully he'll turn into a nice #2 SP for us and save that trade. of course both pitchers we got for Montero had major arm injuries right after we got them.

bombay
05-23-2013, 01:47 PM
Another Cardinals rookie pitcher - Tyler Lyons - won his debut in San Diego last night.

30-16

SouthStndJunkie
05-24-2013, 07:30 PM
Tigers pitcher Anibal Sanchez has a no hitter through 8 innings versus the Twins.

SouthStndJunkie
05-24-2013, 07:39 PM
2 outs to go for a no hitter.

SouthStndJunkie
05-24-2013, 07:40 PM
Bah....Joe Mauer gets a hit with one out in the 9th inning.

SouthStndJunkie
05-24-2013, 07:47 PM
It was still a heck of a performance by Anibal Sanchez tonight:

9 innings pitched 1 hit 0 ER 3 BB 12 Ks 130 pitches.

SouthStndJunkie
05-25-2013, 09:12 AM
ST. PETERSBURG – New York Yankees outfielder Curtis Granderson, who already has missed 38 games this season after breaking his right arm, is likely to miss another month, and possibly more, with a broken left hand.

Three months to the day after he suffered a broken right forearm after being hit by a pitch from J.A. Happ in his first at-bat of spring training, Granderson suffered a broken fifth metacarpal on his left hand after being hit by a pitch from Cesar Ramos in the fifth inning Friday night against the Tampa Bay Rays.

Paladin
05-25-2013, 11:00 AM
He needs to learn to duck.........

bombay
05-25-2013, 04:45 PM
When Lance Lynn shut the Dodgers out last night, he moved to 7-1 on the season, and 26-9 for his career. Pretty damn good start for the kid.

DBroncos4life
05-25-2013, 06:28 PM
Every game Donnie DumDum sends out Kemp and Ethier back to back in the line up and this is what they do with RISP:
Ethier: 41 ABS, 8 HITS, 1 HR. 11 RBIS, 6 BBS, 10K'S, .195 BA, .574 OPS
Kemp: 43 ABS, 7 HITS, 0 HR, 12 RBIS, 7 BBS, 15K'S, .163 BA, .427 OPS

You would think that with the smart thing to do is not bat these two in a row.

bombay
05-25-2013, 06:33 PM
The Dodgers have a lot of very talented players who just aren't getting the job done this season. It sucks when your entire team slumps at the same time, and doesn't reflect well on the manager.

DBroncos4life
05-25-2013, 07:03 PM
The Dodgers have a lot of very talented players who just aren't getting the job done this season. It sucks when your entire team slumps at the same time, and doesn't reflect well on the manager.

All I know is Kemp should not be hitting 4th and Ethier shouldn't be hitting 5th.

Crawford .301
Punto .323
Kemp .266
Gonzalez .303
Ramirez .455 (limited at bats)
M. Ellis .311
Ethier .258
A.J. Ellis .271
Pitcher.

When healthy that is what I would like to see. The only thing I would change now is move the 6,7, and 8 hitters up one to replace the injured Ramirez and put Gordon in the 8th spot. Maybe even take Ethier out of the line up and put Van Slyke in his spot all together.

DBroncos4life
05-25-2013, 07:43 PM
Beckett has been the only bad part of that Red Sox trade. Only runs scored today came from the former Red Sox players. They are walking AGon to get to Kemp. Oh how far Kemp has fallen for something like that to happen.

DBroncos4life
05-25-2013, 07:48 PM
KKKKKKemp needs some time off. He isn't helping the team by playing hurt. Move Crawford to CF, bring Puig up, split time Ethier and SVS.

bombay
05-26-2013, 02:35 PM
Here come the Angels.

DBroncos4life
05-26-2013, 04:47 PM
"How many 16 year old strike out the side (all swinging) in his first professional inning? Julio Urias just did".

He touched 94 mph they say.

"The Dodgers signed left-hander Julio Urias, Ben Badler of Baseball America reports. Urias, a 16-year-old from Mexico, signed for an unknown amount that will only partially count against the Dodgers’ $2.9MM spending pool for 2012-13. The prospect’s rights were transferred from Mexico City of the Mexican League, so only a limited percentage of the bonus applies to the Dodgers’ pool.

Some scouts considered Urias one of the better pitching prospects available. He has reached 92 mph on the radar gun and his change-up is one of the best secondary pitches in this year's class, according to Baseball America. Some teams had suggested that Urias would sign along with a few others for more than $1MM and maybe close to $2MM, Badler reported last month."
- MLB TR


16 years old and throwing 94 MPH!

elsid13
05-26-2013, 04:57 PM
Wait til they find out he's really 25 years old

bpc
05-27-2013, 04:40 PM
Another nose dive coming from the Rockies. We have some of the most unclutch players in stars in baseball, which is why we can't win consistently. Dreadful performance by the heart of our lineup outside of Cargo, as Tulo, Rosario and friends strand 15 base runners, lose in 11 to the hapless Astros.

Weiss is too cute. Why the hell is DJ Lemahieu up again?

DBroncos4life
05-27-2013, 07:55 PM
Matt Kemp has turned into one lazy POS. FU Rihanna!

bombay
05-27-2013, 09:06 PM
Adam Wainwright won his 7th game today, and the Cardinals become the only MLB team with 33 wins. They're riding Wainwright too hard though, and this may cost them later on. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh are right on their heels, and they have three starters on the DL. They're also hesitant to pile up innings on their other two healthy starters, Miller and Lynn. Both very young guys who haven't had 200 inning seasons before.

DBroncos4life
05-27-2013, 09:44 PM
KKKKemp with his 4th K today. He needs benched or DL'd ASAP.

bombay
05-27-2013, 09:49 PM
KKKKemp with his 4th K today. He needs benched or DL'd ASAP.

Really surprising. That guy should be a great player. DL is probably the correct diagnosis.

DBroncos4life
05-27-2013, 10:02 PM
Really surprising. That guy should be a great player. DL is probably the correct diagnosis.

He can't hit with runners in scoring position at all this year. Running into the wall just killed his ability. His fielding is even worse then his hitting which is sad. He should have had two errors on on play today. Scott Van Slyke should be starting in RF and they should bring up Puig and put him in LF. Crawford isn't a strong armed center, but at least he can get to the ball to catch it. Kemp won't even do that.

DBroncos4life
05-27-2013, 10:35 PM
That's 4 Ks tonight for Matt Kemp, 8 in his past 12 at-bats, 13 in his past 21. Mean while Yasiel Puig hit two more HR's with 5 RBI's tonight. I believe that makes 10 HRs and 40 RBIs now for him. It's time to bring him up!!!

bombay
05-30-2013, 12:06 PM
Another rookie will debut for the Cardinals on the mound tonight. Michael Wacha, last year's 1st round pick. They keep on rolling, though - 35-17.


Wacha pitched 7 two hit innings, with 8 Ks and no walks. Boggs gave up 3 runs in the 9th to cost them the game.

DBroncos4life
05-30-2013, 01:53 PM
Looks like Kemp might be heading to the DL. I hope he get his issues fixed this time. I don't mean to sound like I hate him, he is a good player and a good guy. He just is struggling so bad hitting and playing defense it is just sad to see from a guy with his talents.

bombay
05-30-2013, 02:11 PM
I hope he stays out until he's healthy. You hate to see a great player struggle like he has when he should be in his prime. Don't know how to explain all the strikeouts, though.

DBroncos4life
05-30-2013, 02:14 PM
I hope he stays out until he's healthy. You hate to see a great player struggle like he has when he should be in his prime. Don't know how to explain all the strikeouts, though.

Harold Reynolds discussed Matt's slump yesterday on MLB TV. He uncovered a problem (flaw) in Matt's swing and showed video footage of a split screen, displaying how Matt is holding his bat in the batter's box. One side of the screen was last year, and the other side was today. They discovered that Matt is holding the bat too high; a good three inches higher this year than last year. They displayed how it is affecting his swing, and henceforth his low batting average.

I think he pick up this habit after his surgery on the shoulder.

bombay
05-30-2013, 03:59 PM
Cardinal catcher Yadier Molina is not only one of the top defensive catchers in the game, and superb game-caller (especially helpful for all the young pitchers on the roster), he has become an excellent hitter. He's improved at the plate virtually every season, and this year he's hitting .355 with an .879 OPS. He may be the best Cardinal catcher ever.

DBroncos4life
05-30-2013, 06:45 PM
Kemp to the DL. So naturally they would bring up one of the young outfielders Puig or Joe Poc right? Nope, how about a 3rd catcher. ROFL! Then have a guy batting .100 as your DH and Ethier in CF! Man just when you think they are starting to make the right moves they pull this crap.

Opps I guess AJ Ellis is hurting still so that is why FedEx is up again.

SouthStndJunkie
06-01-2013, 03:47 PM
Miggy hit another HR last night and hit a grand slam a little bit ago today.

Batting .373 with 17 HRs and 65 RBIs in 54 games.

Miggy is the first player in MLB history to enter the month of June with a batting average of at least .340 as well as at least 15 HR and 60 RBIs.

I'm a little surprised he's the first one to do that....not surprised that he's the first one to do that while hitting over .370.

TonyR
06-01-2013, 04:07 PM
^ You were awfully quiet during the 4 game skid!

It must be a little frustrating to be a Tigers fan thus far this season. Second best differential in baseball (best in the AL), really good starting pitching, three players with top 25 OPS, etc., and yet only 5 games above .500. They find ways to lose too many games. I'm not sure where to lay the blame, maybe you can provide some fan insight. Bullpen? All that said, I still think they're built for the postseason and I'd be shocked if they weren't in the ALCS (unless perhaps they had to play Texas in the Division Series).

SouthStndJunkie
06-01-2013, 04:28 PM
Their bullpen and infield defense are their weak spots.

Phil Coke has been lousy this year and I still don't trust Jose Valverde and can't believe he's the closer again this year, but Bruce Rondon wasn't ready for that role this season.

bombay
06-01-2013, 09:15 PM
Cards sweep the Giants in a doubleheader, 8-0 and 7-1. Wins for Miller (6-3) and Wainwright (8-3).

37-18

bombay
06-02-2013, 02:59 PM
Cards lose to the Giants, 4-2. Rookie lefty Tyler Lyons falls to 2-1.

DBroncos4life
06-02-2013, 03:56 PM
I like how the Dodgers management refuses to bring up any of the young OF guys despite the injuries. Also maybe they should fire the trainers, hell do something to make it look like you care.

DBroncos4life
06-02-2013, 06:27 PM
I like how the Dodgers management refuses to bring up any of the young OF guys despite the injuries. Also maybe they should fire the trainers, hell do something to make it look like you care.

Yasiel Puig is being called up about time.

DBroncos4life
06-04-2013, 07:28 PM
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1662015-mlb-reportedly-seeking-to-suspend-alex-rodriguez-ryan-braun-and-up-to-20-others?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national

DBroncos4life
06-04-2013, 07:51 PM
http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=9301536
The list of players.

DBroncos4life
06-04-2013, 09:43 PM
Puig is going to be so good!

DBroncos4life
06-04-2013, 11:26 PM
Puig finishes his second major league game with a double, 2 HRs, 2 runs and 5 RBIs. Not bad for a guy that I was told wasn't a power hitter. ;D

Tim
06-05-2013, 07:55 PM
ya'll are missing a rockies slug fest. Cargo has 3hr and tulo with 2 so far and the rest of the team has a few as well.

bombay
06-06-2013, 10:20 PM
Cardinals rookie righthander Shelby Miller pitched well and homered, moved his record to 7-3.

Cardinals are 39-21

DBroncos4life
06-06-2013, 10:45 PM
Puig with his first career grand slam. Can one player save a team???

bombay
06-07-2013, 10:06 PM
Adam Wainwright picked up his 9th win tonight, and the Cardinals beat the Reds, 9-2.

40-21

DBroncos4life
06-07-2013, 11:19 PM
Puig hit his 4th HR in his 5th game. Beast mode.

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-08-2013, 10:48 AM
Puig hit his 4th HR in his 5th game. Beast mode.

He is incredible. Spring training we said dude was gonna be a stud. Not sure whoever wanted him to start the season in the minor leagues is an idiot or genius. Idiot for not realizing dude would Rake over fences the second he's on the field, genius for realizing starting in the minors have different contract consequences for the dodgers.

DBroncos4life
06-08-2013, 11:30 AM
He is incredible. Spring training we said dude was gonna be a stud. Not sure whoever wanted him to start the season in the minor leagues is an idiot or genius. Idiot for not realizing dude would Rake over fences the second he's on the field, genius for realizing starting in the minors have different contract consequences for the dodgers.

From a management point of view him starting in the minors for contract point of view make sense. I don't think anyone saw Kemp struggling so much recovering from his injury and Ethier pretty much not caring anymore (from my point of view). My only hope is Ethier can be moved for someone like Aramis Ramirez to bridge the gap till Corey Seager is ready. They need to move someone to keep Puig up. That is the only way LA can climb back into the NL West race IMO.

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-08-2013, 11:54 AM
From a management point of view him starting in the minors for contract point of view make sense. I don't think anyone saw Kemp struggling so much recovering from his injury and Ethier pretty much not caring anymore (from my point of view). My only hope is Ethier can be moved for someone like Aramis Ramirez to bridge the gap till Corey Seager is ready. They need to move someone to keep Puig up. That is the only way LA can climb back into the NL West race IMO.

With my giants struggling and Arizona lookin good, and CO being in the mix its all muddled up. Giants got some real problems. Seems Arizona took their pitching mojo.

DBroncos4life
06-08-2013, 01:00 PM
With my giants struggling and Arizona lookin good, and CO being in the mix its all muddled up. Giants got some real problems. Seems Arizona took their pitching mojo.

Yeah my other brother is a AZ fan. He is talking crap to both me and my Giants brother lol. Things should get fun after the All Star break!

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-08-2013, 01:14 PM
Yeah my other brother is a AZ fan. He is talking crap to both me and my Giants brother lol. Things should get fun after the All Star break!

Ya it definetly makes for an entertaining season when the teams are all competing. Sounds like a full NL west family

TheChamp24
06-08-2013, 03:59 PM
From a management point of view him starting in the minors for contract point of view make sense. I don't think anyone saw Kemp struggling so much recovering from his injury and Ethier pretty much not caring anymore (from my point of view). My only hope is Ethier can be moved for someone like Aramis Ramirez to bridge the gap till Corey Seager is ready. They need to move someone to keep Puig up. That is the only way LA can climb back into the NL West race IMO.

Man I remember back when the Dodgers signed Ethier to that extension and thinking how stupid it was, mainly due to slightly overpaying. And now he has bottomed out.

As for Puig, geez lets give the kid some more time to determine the decision. Kevin Maas? Shane Spencer?
NL West has always been weird the last few years. A team suddenly wins out of nowhere. DBacks are winning with basically great bullpen pitching and decent starting rotation. Rockies have a great lineup, but questionable pitching. Giants have a decent offense, great bullpen, but kinda iffy SP at the moment. Dodgers have had injuries and guys not stepping up, and well the Padres are...the Padres.

SouthStndJunkie
06-08-2013, 05:39 PM
SEATTLE -- Andy Pettitte allowed three hits over 7 1/3 innings to earn his 250th career victory, leading the Yankees to a 3-1 win over the Seattle Mariners on Saturday.

It was his 213th victory as a Yankee, putting him third on the franchise's career list behind Whitey Ford (236) and Red Ruffing (231).

Pettitte (5-3) had six strikeouts and no walks in his 85-pitch effort. He has 1,940 strikeouts as a Yankee, 16 behind franchise leader Ford.

SouthStndJunkie
06-08-2013, 07:17 PM
FROM ELIAS: Prince Fielder (51) and Miguel Cabrera (67) are the 1st pair of teammates to each have at least 50 RBI through 60 team games since Carlos Delgado (58) and Vernon Wells (55) in 2003. The last pair of Tigers teammates to each have at least 50 RBI through 60 team games were Vic Wertz (63) and Hoot Evers (51) in 1950.

SouthStndJunkie
06-09-2013, 10:48 AM
I was glad to see the Royals name George Brett as their hitting coach (they've won 4 straight games since then).

I'm a Tigers fan, but George Brett is one of my all time favorite players.

He looks like he is infusing the team with some energy and appears to be having a blast working with the players.

I was 8 years old when he hit .390 in 1980 and remember looking at the box scores every day in the newspaper to see what he did the previous night....of course ESPN was in it's infancy back then (we didn't have cable anyway back then) and it was well before the Internet age and 24/7/365 information overload....so when I was a kid, I relied on the daily box scores, the weekly installment of TWIB, and Tigers games on the radio.

OrangeSe7en
06-09-2013, 11:35 AM
I was watching the highlights from yesterdays games and a few of my pet peeves surfaced.

1- There were two significant extra inning games yesterday. This prompted the espn anchors to use the term, "free baseball". Sorry, but when you buy a ticket to a major league game, you're paying for the right to see the contest arrive at it's eventual outcome. Nothing about 9 innings is specified. Nor do announcers talk about refunds when a game is called after 6 innings.

2- The Cardinals loss yesterday put them at 40-22. People in broadcasting call this 18 games over .500. But .500 for 62 games is 31-31. So, the Cardinals are actually 9 games over .500, not 18.

TheChamp24
06-09-2013, 01:59 PM
I was watching the highlights from yesterdays games and a few of my pet peeves surfaced.

1- There were two significant extra inning games yesterday. This prompted the espn anchors to use the term, "free baseball". Sorry, but when you buy a ticket to a major league game, you're paying for the right to see the contest arrive at it's eventual outcome. Nothing about 9 innings is specified. Nor do announcers talk about refunds when a game is called after 6 innings.

2- The Cardinals loss yesterday put them at 40-22. People in broadcasting call this 18 games over .500. But .500 for 62 games is 31-31. So, the Cardinals are actually 9 games over .500, not 18.

Its called 18 games over .500 because they would have to lose 18 straight just to be .500.

OrangeSe7en
06-09-2013, 02:08 PM
Its called 18 games over .500 because they would have to lose 18 straight just to be .500.

I know but it's not correct.

SouthStndJunkie
06-09-2013, 02:10 PM
The Tigers sweep the Indians and have opened up a 5.5 game lead over the Tribe in the division.

broncocalijohn
06-09-2013, 03:07 PM
I was glad to see the Royals name George Brett as their hitting coach (they've won 4 straight games since then).

I'm a Tigers fan, but George Brett is one of my all time favorite players.

He looks like he is infusing the team with some energy and appears to be having a blast working with the players.

I was 8 years old when he hit .390 in 1980 and remember looking at the box scores every day in the newspaper to see what he did the previous night....of course ESPN was in it's infancy back then (we didn't have cable anyway back then) and it was well before the Internet age and 24/7/365 information overload....so when I was a kid, I relied on the daily box scores, the weekly installment of TWIB, and Tigers games on the radio.

Everyone was talking about Brett after the All Star break. I remember exactly being driven somewhere and at the bottom of the street, the Angels' radio announcer said he would have to go 6 for 8 or 8 for 8 on the last day to hit .400. That was such a magical year and only Boggs and Gwynn could even come close to hitting .400 .

broncocalijohn
06-09-2013, 03:09 PM
I was watching the highlights from yesterdays games and a few of my pet peeves surfaced.

1- There were two significant extra inning games yesterday. This prompted the espn anchors to use the term, "free baseball". Sorry, but when you buy a ticket to a major league game, you're paying for the right to see the contest arrive at it's eventual outcome. Nothing about 9 innings is specified. Nor do announcers talk about refunds when a game is called after 6 innings.

2- The Cardinals loss yesterday put them at 40-22. People in broadcasting call this 18 games over .500. But .500 for 62 games is 31-31. So, the Cardinals are actually 9 games over .500, not 18.

I have a pet peeve of people that actually think your statement above is correct in baseball talk. Too literal. I feel that type of talk should be in a myspace blog.

TheChamp24
06-09-2013, 08:45 PM
I know but it's not correct.

But...it is correct. The Cardinals need to lose 18 games to get to .500. so they are 18 games over .500.

OrangeSe7en
06-09-2013, 08:51 PM
But...it is correct. The Cardinals need to lose 18 games to get to .500. so they are 18 games over .500.

No, 50% of 62 is 31.

bombay
06-09-2013, 09:52 PM
Cardinals have scored 7 in the 10th (11-4), capped by a 460 foot Matt Holiday grand slam. They'll be 41-22 after this game.

Cardinals will be 19 games over .500!


Even though that's incorrect, mathematically speaking.

TheChamp24
06-10-2013, 09:51 PM
No, 50% of 62 is 31.

They would have to lose 19 games now to get to .500, so they are 19 games over .500.

OrangeSe7en
06-11-2013, 04:59 PM
They would have to lose 19 games now to get to .500, so they are 19 games over .500.

No, if you've played 62 games and you speak in terms of being .500, your reference point becomes 31 games.

You should brush up on your math.

broncosteven
06-11-2013, 08:33 PM
I haven't watched a baseball game since the WS lost to the cub in the 1st game of their series, I had a bad feeling about them after that. Usually the team that loses the cross town series goes right in the tank.

bombay
06-11-2013, 09:14 PM
Cardinals beat the Mets 9-3 behind another rookie pitcher, Michael Wacha.

42-22. Twenty games over .500 with a little less than 100 games to go.

TheChamp24
06-11-2013, 09:36 PM
No, if you've played 62 games and you speak in terms of being .500, your reference point becomes 31 games.

You should brush up on your math.

They already played those games, its done, in order to get to .500, they would need to lose 20 games in a row. So they are now 20 games over .500.

SouthStndJunkie
06-11-2013, 10:32 PM
Max Scherzer goes to 9-0 on the season, as the Tigers beat the Royals 3-2.

Scherzer became the first Tigers starter to begin the season 9-0 since Vern Kennedy in 1938.

DBroncos4life
06-12-2013, 12:41 AM
So Kennedy is a punk. Hit to people in the head, second one was clearly on purpose.

24champ
06-12-2013, 01:04 AM
Mattingly throws down.

http://i.imgur.com/Iqa0DRE.gif

TheChamp24
06-12-2013, 07:06 AM
I totally expect to see some suspensions coming way to some players/coaches for that.
I don't think the Puig was on purpose, but Greinke hitting Montero and Kenedy hitting Greinke were.
I never understood why players/teams go out in brawls like that. Show up the other guy by winning the game, not throwing punches.

TonyR
06-12-2013, 07:10 AM
How about Bartolo Colon, now 8-2 with a 2.92 ERA for the A's. Ridic.

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-12-2013, 02:22 PM
Munenori Kawasaki has the best personality in baseball. He's what athletes should be like. Simply amazing how this guy interacts and approaches life. If he wasn't in Toronto and was in a bigger market he'd be all over the news based on him as a person. I was at the giants jays game and during warmups he was throwing to giants fans. Playing catch with the fans. Was throwing from left field into the bleachers with a 10 year old kid. Back and forth for like 10 min. Then came over and had fun with the fans with his accent.

Incredible guy.

DBroncos4life
06-12-2013, 06:34 PM
Dodgers-Diamondbacks rivalry going too far

Sorry, but I’m not buying what Ian Kennedy is selling.
He might not have been trying to plunk Dodgers rookie Yasiel Puig on the end of the nose with his high, tight 92-mile-per-hour fastball Tuesday night at Dodgers Stadium, but I find it hard to believe he didn’t intend to hit him at all.
Or at least to deliver a message by throwing way inside.
And there is even less doubt about whether he was going after Dodgers pitcher Zack Greinke, who had just thrown at Diamondbacks catcher Miquel Montero in retaliation for the Puig pitch.
The Dodgers clearly don’t believe it, which is why the game – won by LA – turned ugly. Perhaps they remembered Kennedy throwing inside against their ace, Clayton Kershaw, last season.
That was in response, presumably, to the Dodgers taking offense to Gerardo Parra the season prior when they thought he did a bit too much preening after a home run. Kershaw plunked him the next day.
Funny that earlier Tuesday in a conversation with Diamondbacks president/CEO Derrick Hall about Puig, I mentioned Parra’s terrific throw in the opener of the series that got Puig at third base.
“Parra always steps up against the Dodgers,” Hall noted. “There’s something about the Dodgers that brings something out of him. He stands a little taller, he puffs out his chest a little more.”
There’s something about the Dodgers that brings that out of all the Diamondbacks, which will make the remaining 11 games between the two teams even more interesting.
Nothing wrong with some heat in a rivalry, a little bad blood or even vigilante justice.
But the head-hunting has to stop.
http://www.azcentral.com/insiders/bobyoung/2013/06/12/63585/

DBroncos4life
06-12-2013, 06:34 PM
Shame on Ian Kennedy

Wanna fight? Pick a side.

That’s how it works at times like this. Sports fans defend their own, turning cheeks to reason, especially if it involves teams from Phoenix and Los Angeles.

Sorry.

The bench-clearing brawl between the Diamondbacks and Dodgers was ugly, riveting, reminiscent of a different era in Major League Baseball. And in the end, Ian Kennedy should be ashamed.

Twice, the Diamondbacks’ ace appeared to throw at a batter’s head. The latter came against the opposing pitcher, after the score had apparently been settled.

At a time when head injuries are not to be trivialized, it appears that Kennedy purposely endangered a fellow player. He will face a lengthy suspension that will further tax the Diamondbacks’ pitching staff, all but assuring Josh Collmenter’s return to the starting rotation.

It began when Kennedy plunked Yasiel Puig with a pitch that glanced off his nose. Kennedy’s reaction made it clear he did not intend to hit the batter. And Kennedy’s history with this stuff – he led the National League in plunked batters last season – suggests he can get a bit loose when working the inside corners.

But it’s also Yasiel Puig, a kid who has sparked a new kind of Fernando-mania in Los Angeles. Even if Kennedy had zero intent, the outcome demanded retribution. It demanded that the Dodgers stick up for their young star.

What would you expect if an opposing pitcher accidentally plunked Paul Goldschmidt in the face?

When Zack Greinke retaliated by hitting Miguel Montero, he followed proper protocol. He hit him in the square of the back, and at that point, the game within the game should’ve been over.

For Kennedy to follow with a pitch at Greinke’s head is unconscionable.

I know there are mitigating factors and things we don’t know. I understand Greinke isn’t exactly beloved inside the lines. Earlier in the season, Greinke hit Carlos Quentin with a pitch that send the hitter into a blind rage.

Tuesday’s brawl was even more heated, more like a hockey scrum. The skirmishing coaches represented a clash of titans. Mark McGwire’s ridiculous fury invited a string of steroid-related jokes.

It was great theater, but not a great night for baseball. And in the end, it’s going to cost Kennedy and his team.

http://www.azcentral.com/insiders/danbickley/2013/06/12/shame-on-ian-kennedy/

DBroncos4life
06-12-2013, 06:35 PM
So Az writers don't think Kennedy throwing at head was the right choice.

TheChamp24
06-12-2013, 07:11 PM
Shame on Ian Kennedy

Wanna fight? Pick a side.

That’s how it works at times like this. Sports fans defend their own, turning cheeks to reason, especially if it involves teams from Phoenix and Los Angeles.

Sorry.

The bench-clearing brawl between the Diamondbacks and Dodgers was ugly, riveting, reminiscent of a different era in Major League Baseball. And in the end, Ian Kennedy should be ashamed.

Twice, the Diamondbacks’ ace appeared to throw at a batter’s head. The latter came against the opposing pitcher, after the score had apparently been settled.

At a time when head injuries are not to be trivialized, it appears that Kennedy purposely endangered a fellow player. He will face a lengthy suspension that will further tax the Diamondbacks’ pitching staff, all but assuring Josh Collmenter’s return to the starting rotation.

It began when Kennedy plunked Yasiel Puig with a pitch that glanced off his nose. Kennedy’s reaction made it clear he did not intend to hit the batter. And Kennedy’s history with this stuff – he led the National League in plunked batters last season – suggests he can get a bit loose when working the inside corners.

But it’s also Yasiel Puig, a kid who has sparked a new kind of Fernando-mania in Los Angeles. Even if Kennedy had zero intent, the outcome demanded retribution. It demanded that the Dodgers stick up for their young star.

What would you expect if an opposing pitcher accidentally plunked Paul Goldschmidt in the face?

When Zack Greinke retaliated by hitting Miguel Montero, he followed proper protocol. He hit him in the square of the back, and at that point, the game within the game should’ve been over.

For Kennedy to follow with a pitch at Greinke’s head is unconscionable.

I know there are mitigating factors and things we don’t know. I understand Greinke isn’t exactly beloved inside the lines. Earlier in the season, Greinke hit Carlos Quentin with a pitch that send the hitter into a blind rage.

Tuesday’s brawl was even more heated, more like a hockey scrum. The skirmishing coaches represented a clash of titans. Mark McGwire’s ridiculous fury invited a string of steroid-related jokes.

It was great theater, but not a great night for baseball. And in the end, it’s going to cost Kennedy and his team.

http://www.azcentral.com/insiders/danbickley/2013/06/12/shame-on-ian-kennedy/

I imagine Kennedy will get probably 10 games, which is essentially 2 starts. Puig might face a suspension, as well as Bellisario and some coaches.

bombay
06-12-2013, 09:26 PM
Mets beat the Cardinals, 5-1. Rookie righthander Shelby Miller falls to 7-4.

If they lose their next 19, they'll be a .500 team.

24champ
06-12-2013, 09:54 PM
I imagine Kennedy will get probably 10 games, which is essentially 2 starts. Puig might face a suspension, as well as Bellisario and some coaches.

Curious to see if there will be fines or suspensions for those on the DL that stepped out onto the field.

DBroncos4life
06-12-2013, 10:12 PM
I'm glad Chris Withrow was brought up. The kid can toss some heat! 100 MPH set up man is something LA could use. Way better then League!!!

24champ
06-12-2013, 10:31 PM
I'm glad Chris Withrow was brought up. The kid can toss some heat! 100 MPH set up man is something LA could use. Way better then League!!!

League is hot garbage. I knew we lost when they put him in the other night vs the dbags.

DBroncos4life
06-12-2013, 10:34 PM
League is hot garbage. I knew we lost when they put him in the other night vs the dbags.

Yeah I hope he never pitches again for LA. Even the saves he did make ended up being harder then they should have been.

SouthStndJunkie
06-12-2013, 11:03 PM
Jose Valverde blew another save today....I couldn't believe it when the Tigers brought him back this season in a sign of desperation.

They need to go out and trade for a closer during the season.

Valverde's blown save today ruined a gem by Justin Verlander.

bombay
06-13-2013, 01:57 PM
Adam Wainwright is the first 10 game winner at 10-3. He shut out the Mets for 7 innings in a 2-1 win. Matt Harvey lost for the first time, even though he gave up 1 run in 7.

43-23

SouthStndJunkie
06-14-2013, 03:29 AM
DENVER -- An MRI on Thursday night revealed that Colorado Rockies shortstop Troy Tulowitzki has a broken rib, the Denver Post reported.

Tulowitzki, hitting .347 with 16 home runs this season, is headed to the disabled list and is expected to miss four to six weeks, according to MLB.com.

TheChamp24
06-14-2013, 07:07 AM
DENVER -- An MRI on Thursday night revealed that Colorado Rockies shortstop Troy Tulowitzki has a broken rib, the Denver Post reported.

Tulowitzki, hitting .347 with 16 home runs this season, is headed to the disabled list and is expected to miss four to six weeks, according to MLB.com.

I can't believe Tulo's crappy breaks with injuries. Another month missed in a season due to something out of his control.
Best SS in the game by far, hopefully he can make it back around the All Star break.

Requiem
06-14-2013, 08:32 AM
Just revisiting all the trades the Mariners have made over the past 5-6 years where we gave up great players for nothing. Wish we didn't get rid of Mike Carp to Boston for turds and pennies.