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Meck77
02-24-2013, 04:06 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanine-molloff/trespass-bill_b_1328205.html

Didn't realize they snuck this one in. You could get 10 years and a felony for protesting. wow

More on HR 347

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/restricted.asp

Botton line is if Obama is around, secret service is around, and you better not protest him.

Rohirrim
02-24-2013, 07:33 AM
Sorry. Can't read that commie **** on the Huff Post.

Meck77
02-24-2013, 08:51 AM
Ok here is the communist bill itself.



http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr347/text

H.R.347


One Hundred Twelfth Congress


of the


United States of America


AT THE SECOND SESSION

Begun and held at the City of Washington on Tuesday,

the third day of January, two thousand and twelve

An Act

To correct and simplify the drafting of section 1752 (relating to restricted buildings or grounds) of title 18, United States Code.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.


This Act may be cited as the ‘Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011’.

SEC. 2. RESTRICTED BUILDING OR GROUNDS.

Section 1752 of title 18, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:

-‘Sec. 1752. Restricted building or grounds

‘(a) Whoever--

‘(1) knowingly enters or remains in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority to do so;

‘(2) knowingly, and with intent to impede or disrupt the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions, engages in disorderly or disruptive conduct in, or within such proximity to, any restricted building or grounds when, or so that, such conduct, in fact, impedes or disrupts the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions;

‘(3) knowingly, and with the intent to impede or disrupt the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions, obstructs or impedes ingress or egress to or from any restricted building or grounds; or

‘(4) knowingly engages in any act of physical violence against any person or property in any restricted building or grounds;

or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).

‘(b) The punishment for a violation of subsection (a) is--

‘(1) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 10 years, or both, if--

‘(A) the person, during and in relation to the offense, uses or carries a deadly or dangerous weapon or firearm; or

‘(B) the offense results in significant bodily injury as defined by section 2118(e)(3); and

‘(2) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than one year, or both, in any other case.

‘(c) In this section--

‘(1) the term ‘restricted buildings or grounds’ means any posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area--

‘(A) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice President’s official residence or its grounds;

‘(B) of a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting; or

‘(C) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance; and

‘(2) the term ‘other person protected by the Secret Service’ means any person whom the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect under section 3056 of this title or by Presidential memorandum, when such person has not declined such protection.’.

Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Vice President of the United States and

President of the Senate.

Rohirrim
02-24-2013, 09:53 AM
So, the Praetorian Guard affords the emperor an aureola of serenity and peace? What could be wrong with that?

baja
02-24-2013, 10:02 AM
I told you years ago Americans were slowly loosing their freedoms. You told me I was a coward & a traitor. I am glad you are beginning to differentiate between Americans and the federal government that has been hijacked by globalists who do not care about the precious freedoms of the great country of the USA. More and more people are waking up to what is happening to America just as you are. Maybe it is not too late.

Fedaykin
02-24-2013, 11:42 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanine-molloff/trespass-bill_b_1328205.html

Didn't realize they snuck this one in. You could get 10 years and a felony for protesting. wow

More on HR 347

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/restricted.asp

Botton line is if Obama is around, secret service is around, and you better not protest him.

Didn't realize they snuck it in 40 years ago? This is a small tweak, essentially closing the "ignorance is not an excuse" loophole. It also passed Congress with only 3 dissenters. Love how it's framed as something huge move by Obama.

Did you even read your own links?

For the record, I don't like the law, but to pretend/imply its either a.) new or b.) Obama's doing is just plain dishonest.

houghtam
02-24-2013, 11:53 AM
Didn't realize they snuck it in 40 years ago? This is a small tweak, essentially closing the "ignorance is not an excuse" loophole. It also passed Congress with only 3 dissenters. Love how it's framed as something huge move by Obama.

Did you even read your own links?

For the record, I don't like the law, but to pretend/imply its either a.) new or b.) Obama's doing is just plain dishonest.

Agreed.

There sure has been a rash of "gotcha" articles posted by right wingers that they themselves neglected to read lately.

What's up with that?

Fedaykin
02-24-2013, 11:56 AM
Bipartisan support, and bipartisan dissent.

With the libertarian head (Paul), abstaining. Really Paul?

W*GS
02-24-2013, 11:56 AM
So, the Praetorian Guard affords the emperor an aureola of serenity and peace? What could be wrong with that?

Heh heh heh. You said "aureola". Heh heh heh.

Meck77
02-24-2013, 07:23 PM
Didn't realize they snuck it in 40 years ago? This is a small tweak, essentially closing the "ignorance is not an excuse" loophole. It also passed Congress with only 3 dissenters. Love how it's framed as something huge move by Obama.

Did you even read your own links?

For the record, I don't like the law, but to pretend/imply its either a.) new or b.) Obama's doing is just plain dishonest.

You didn't read it.

They added a clause the says you can't protest anywhere there is secret service present. The president always has secret service. That is a huge difference.


You might not care now but wait until another Bush takes office. :rofl:

Ron Paul has it right.

Ever heard of the First Amendment? Perhaps you should read it.

First Amendment – Establishment Clause, Free Exercise Clause; freedom of speech, of the press, and of assembly; right to petition
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Fedaykin
02-24-2013, 07:54 PM
You didn't read it.

They added a clause the says you can't protest anywhere there is secret service present. The president always has secret service. That is a huge difference.


From your own link:

" In February 2012, the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act was passed in the Senate by unanimous consent and (as HR 347) approved by the House of Representatives by a lopsided vote of 399-3; the bill was then signed into law by President Obama. This bill was an updating of an existing law, originally enacted in 1971, that restricted access to areas around the president, vice president, or any others under the protection of the Secret Service.

HR 347 did not technically make it "illegal to protest anywhere the Secret Service is present," as a law to that effect had already been in place for over forty years. The primary differences between the previously existing law and the updated version enacted by HR 347 are:"

[EDIT]
From the original Law:

Text of the original law: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1752


(1) the term “restricted buildings or grounds” means any posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area— (A) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice President’s official residence or its grounds;
(B) of a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting; or
(C) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance; and

Which is the ****ing exact text of the updated law with respect to defining "where" its unlawful to protest.

Moron.


You might not care now but wait until another Bush takes office. :rofl:

Ron Paul has it right.

Ever heard of the First Amendment? Perhaps you should read it.

First Amendment – Establishment Clause, Free Exercise Clause; freedom of speech, of the press, and of assembly; right to petition
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I already said I didn't agree with the law. Go **** your idjit self.

orinjkrush
02-24-2013, 09:25 PM
the constitution is dead. tot. merde.
the intelligentsia killed it.

and the sheeple grazed. seig heil.

mhgaffney
02-25-2013, 04:29 PM
A "national security interest event" could be anything big brother says it is.

The solution is mass protest. They can't put all of us in jail.

Meck77
02-27-2013, 09:54 PM
White House threatened Bob Woodward for speaking out. Things are getting interesting....

http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-woodward-obama-sequester-white-house-reporting-price-politics-2013-2

barryr
02-28-2013, 05:25 AM
White House threatened Bob Woodward for speaking out. Things are getting interesting....

http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-woodward-obama-sequester-white-house-reporting-price-politics-2013-2

It never ceases. The Obama dullards will back and defend him no matter how completely stupid they sound. It wasn't long ago they peed their panties on a daily basis anything that even hinted at a violation of rights for people, but now are completely silent about it now despite how blatant Obama is trampling said rights. Threaten reporters. Rig elections so people can vote numerous times. Drones going around killing whoever happens to be in the way. For them, basic and human rights are only important depending on who is doing the violating.

Fedaykin
02-28-2013, 05:40 AM
It never ceases. The Obama dullards will back and defend him no matter how completely stupid they sound. It wasn't long ago they peed their panties on a daily basis anything that even hinted at a violation of rights for people, but now are completely silent about it now despite how blatant Obama is trampling said rights. Threaten reporters. Rig elections so people can vote numerous times. Drones going around killing whoever happens to be in the way. For them, basic and human rights are only important depending on who is doing the violating.

Hilarious!

* Meck77 posts idiotic thread and is shown to be completely wrong.
* Meck77 then posts unrelated article in same thread.
* barryr shows up and spluges all over the thread with the usual misplaced, bigoted bluster.

Rohirrim
02-28-2013, 06:32 AM
Any way you want to look at it, Obama is a lousy president. Of course, Boehner is the worst Speaker I've ever seen. Reid is the worst Senate majority leader, McConnell the worst minority leader, etc. etc. etc. We should bulldoze the whole damn place, turn it into a park, move the capital elsewhere, form a new government, and write a new constitution. This one is busted.

Pick Six
02-28-2013, 12:21 PM
Can we send the Phelps cult to the next Secret Service-attended event? This could be gold...:sunshine:

barryr
02-28-2013, 06:39 PM
Hilarious!

* Meck77 posts idiotic thread and is shown to be completely wrong.
* Meck77 then posts unrelated article in same thread.
* barryr shows up and spluges all over the thread with the usual misplaced, bigoted bluster.

Says the idiot who is always in hurry up mode to suck off Obama. You will never be anything but a democrat shrill who looks lost from reality. Liberals are the biggest bigots, so look in the mirror.