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Taco John
02-04-2013, 12:58 PM
Match-fixing probe: 680 suspicious games worldwide
By MIKE CORDER (Associated Press)

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) -- Organized crime gangs have fixed or tried to fix hundreds of soccer matches around the world in recent years, including World Cup and European Championship qualifiers and two Champions League games, Europol announced Monday.

The European Union's police agency said an 18-month review found 380 suspicious matches in Europe and another 300 questionable games outside the continent, mainly in Africa, Asia and South and Central America. It also found evidence that a Singapore-based crime syndicate was involved in some of the match-fixing.

Europol refused to name any suspected matches, players, officials or match-fixers, saying that would compromise ongoing national investigations, so it remained unclear how much of the information divulged Monday was new or had already been revealed in trials across the continent.
Even so, the picture painted by Europol was the latest body blow for the credibility of sports in general, following cyclist Lance Armstrong's admission that he used performance-enhancing drugs in all seven of his Tour de France wins.

''This is a sad day for European football (soccer),'' Europol Director Rob Wainwright told reporters. He said criminals were cashing in on soccer corruption ''on a scale and in a way that threatens the very fabric of the game.''

More:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/match-fixing-probe-found-380-103613303--sow.html

That One Guy
02-04-2013, 01:02 PM
I used to gamble a lot on soccer and never suspected anything but I guess we should've seen it coming. Not everyone frowns upon corruption in sports the way we do and, in many countries, it's just a way of life still.

Requiem
02-04-2013, 01:06 PM
Not surprising.

Taco John
02-04-2013, 01:10 PM
Not surprising.

I disagree... 680 games is surprising to me. I can't believe corruption like that could go on so long. That's a lot of people in the loop not speaking up.

2KBack
02-04-2013, 01:11 PM
Yes, soccer has a sterling reputation of sportsmanship...
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/daily_gifdump_295_08.gif

srphoenix
02-04-2013, 01:13 PM
lol, cant stop watching the ear flick... then the PAIN!!!

Requiem
02-04-2013, 01:18 PM
I disagree... 680 games is surprising to me. I can't believe corruption like that could go on so long. That's a lot of people in the loop not speaking up.

Organized crime and cartels being linked to having an influence in soccer goes back decades. It looks like the article went on to state that ~ 425 were found to have been fixed since in the past seven to eight years. With that link and given the number of competitive matches all over the world that are played on a yearly basis, that number (to me) isn't all that surprising.

Pick Six
02-04-2013, 01:20 PM
I feel bad for the people trying to promote soccer, in America. This news will likely set their efforts, back...

go_broncos
02-04-2013, 01:36 PM
Waiting for someone to say the same about NFL..
I have no doubts that NFL is fixed.

NUB
02-04-2013, 01:50 PM
Never bet on anything in Asia, particularly if it is in or near India.

Old Dude
02-04-2013, 01:53 PM
Anyone remember Tim Donaghy?

elsid13
02-04-2013, 03:22 PM
With the number of matches and leagues I am surprised the number is so low, especial when you factor in Africa, Eastern Europe and Asia.

Meck77
02-04-2013, 03:40 PM
Our own Reggie Rivers came by the tailgate years ago dragging a little cart of his autographed books.

4th and Fixed.

It's an interesting read covering the possibility that games are indeed fixed.

http://www.amazon.com/4th-Fixed-Rivers/dp/1402202199

KipCorrington25
02-04-2013, 03:43 PM
This is commonplace in the NBA, that Donaghy incident was the tip of the ice berg in my opinon. The media has a vested interest in keeping it under wraps though, they have too much of a financial interest in the league. Beyond that I think it happens in all sports to a certain extent but the NBA makes WWE look legit they don't even try to hide it.

go_broncos
02-04-2013, 03:48 PM
Never bet on anything in Asia, particularly if it is in or near India.

NBA....Hilarious!

Kaylore
02-04-2013, 03:53 PM
Yes, soccer has a sterling reputation of sportsmanship...
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/daily_gifdump_295_08.gif

LOL

NUB
02-04-2013, 06:19 PM
NBA....Hilarious!

After the first Mavericks-Heat finals, the NBA too. I completely stopped watching the NBA after that, and never really bothered to pick it back up except for a game here and there.

RhymesayersDU
02-04-2013, 06:36 PM
This is commonplace in the NBA, that Donaghy incident was the tip of the ice berg in my opinon. The media has a vested interest in keeping it under wraps though, they have too much of a financial interest in the league. Beyond that I think it happens in all sports to a certain extent but the NBA makes WWE look legit they don't even try to hide it.

LOL LOL LOL

Can I have one of your tinfoil hats, brah?

loborugger
02-04-2013, 08:16 PM
At some point I imagine something like this will break in the NFL. There is just too much $$$ for some ambitious crime boss to not at least try to get a fix on the games.

That One Guy
02-04-2013, 08:21 PM
At some point I imagine something like this will break in the NFL. There is just too much $$$ for some ambitious crime boss to not at least try to get a fix on the games.

But if you're gambling, you can put money on any game you want. Why put it on a game like the NFL when you can bet on a soccer game of which there are like 87 being played at any given time?

Also, the amount of money I saw as being involved (it was when the numbers were a bit less, I think) would not have even begun to influence an NFL game. I think I saw something like up to $100k per game spent on fixes. There's no way anyone throws a game and kills their career for a piece of that $100k.

StugotsIII
02-04-2013, 08:23 PM
Soccer is terrible.

broncocalijohn
02-04-2013, 10:07 PM
I feel bad for the people trying to promote soccer, in America. This news will likely set their efforts, back...

Yep. All those hard earned 0 to 0 games were really fixed from both sides to not really try to score. SO can one of the soccer fans tell me now that normally a game is 4 to 3 but crooked, fixed games made them 1 to 0 or 0 to 0?

fontaine
02-05-2013, 04:32 AM
Yep. All those hard earned 0 to 0 games were really fixed from both sides to not really try to score. SO can one of the soccer fans tell me now that normally a game is 4 to 3 but crooked, fixed games made them 1 to 0 or 0 to 0?

A normal game is a boring 1-0, 1-1 dull outcome.

I'd say it's the other way around and fixed games are where more goals are scored because normal in soccer is boring.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-05-2013, 07:21 AM
Oh good, the anti-soccer morons came to a soccer thread to talk about how they dislike soccer. Love it when that happens.

HURR DURR SOCCER IZ TEH DUMZ.

Bacchus
02-05-2013, 01:47 PM
Match-fixing probe: 680 suspicious games worldwide
By MIKE CORDER (Associated Press)

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) -- Organized crime gangs have fixed or tried to fix hundreds of soccer matches around the world in recent years, including World Cup and European Championship qualifiers and two Champions League games, Europol announced Monday.

The European Union's police agency said an 18-month review found 380 suspicious matches in Europe and another 300 questionable games outside the continent, mainly in Africa, Asia and South and Central America. It also found evidence that a Singapore-based crime syndicate was involved in some of the match-fixing.

Europol refused to name any suspected matches, players, officials or match-fixers, saying that would compromise ongoing national investigations, so it remained unclear how much of the information divulged Monday was new or had already been revealed in trials across the continent.
Even so, the picture painted by Europol was the latest body blow for the credibility of sports in general, following cyclist Lance Armstrong's admission that he used performance-enhancing drugs in all seven of his Tour de France wins.

''This is a sad day for European football (soccer),'' Europol Director Rob Wainwright told reporters. He said criminals were cashing in on soccer corruption ''on a scale and in a way that threatens the very fabric of the game.''

More:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/match-fixing-probe-found-380-103613303--sow.html

HAHAHA, really, how hard can it be to fix a 1-0 game?:giggle:

Bacchus
02-05-2013, 01:51 PM
Oh good, the anti-soccer morons came to a soccer thread to talk about how they dislike soccer. Love it when that happens.

HURR DURR SOCCER IZ TEH DUMZ.

soccer does really suck, you know that right?

BroncoBeavis
02-05-2013, 01:55 PM
Oh good, the anti-soccer morons came to a soccer thread to talk about how they dislike soccer. Love it when that happens.

HURR DURR SOCCER IZ TEH DUMZ.


In reality, it's not all that surprising that Kyle's a soccer fan. If I had to guess what his favorite sport was, that'd probably be it.

Bacchus
02-05-2013, 01:56 PM
Oh good, the anti-soccer morons came to a soccer thread to talk about how they dislike soccer. Love it when that happens.

HURR DURR SOCCER IZ TEH DUMZ.

soccer does really suck, you know that right?

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/10outof10dive3bf8pu2ug3be9qw3x.gif?w=276&h=208http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1326635_o.gif

Rock Chalk
02-05-2013, 01:57 PM
This is not Europe, why do we give a ****?

I woke up this morning and realized I had as many Tour De France wins as Lance Armstrong and twice as many testicles.

Bacchus
02-05-2013, 01:58 PM
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/bhf4a0.gif?w=496&h=284http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/1240308743_soccer-wtf.gif?w=272&h=217

Bacchus
02-05-2013, 01:59 PM
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/ahhh-my-face.gif?w=320&h=180http://www.gifsoup.com/view1/2054859/lol-o.gifhttp://i53.tinypic.com/2lifle0.jpg

Chris
02-05-2013, 02:03 PM
So how much did Rahim get?

Bacchus
02-05-2013, 02:04 PM
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/altidoredive.gif?w=450&h=253http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/1277496422531i1sy.gif?w=528&h=396

Chris
02-05-2013, 02:06 PM
I'd actually like to learn about how the investigation has proceeded (they can't divulge this right now). When identifying something as suspicious I'm assuming you look at payments then trace them to individuals then spread through that individuals games / network.

BroncoBeavis
02-05-2013, 02:08 PM
My all time Fave

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Bacchus
02-05-2013, 02:20 PM
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwp26wOw0p1qdlh1io1_400.gifhttp://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/soccer_peekaboo.gif?w=404&h=241

Chris
02-05-2013, 02:20 PM
Basketball is almost as bull**** as soccer.

Bacchus
02-05-2013, 02:26 PM
My all time Fave

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ypwpf-fhPoI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

HAHA you beat me to it!!

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/ridiculous-soccer-dive.gif?w=450&h=272

Bacchus
02-05-2013, 02:29 PM
ok one last one and I am done.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/lkxa3.gif?w=250

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-05-2013, 02:34 PM
soccer does really suck, you know that right?

The entire world = wrong.

Bacchus = right.

Got it.

broncocalijohn
02-05-2013, 02:38 PM
Oh good, the anti-soccer morons came to a soccer thread to talk about how they dislike soccer. Love it when that happens.

HURR DURR SOCCER IZ TEH DUMZ.

Oh good, the pro-soccer morons came to an anti soccer thread to talk about how they need to stand up for their pro stance on soccer. Love it when that happens.

680 games possibly fixed and he thinks this is a pro soccer thread. Hilarious!

BroncoBeavis
02-05-2013, 03:02 PM
The entire world = wrong.

Bacchus = right.

Got it.

And by "Bacchus" you mean 'MERICA

Bacchus
02-05-2013, 03:57 PM
hey I'm just another drunk that hates "run, kick, flop" AKA: soccer.

enjolras
02-05-2013, 04:14 PM
This was almost entirely contained to very low level games in low level leagues (as as I understand it). It'd be like a big fixing scandal in the East Coast Hockey League. Who really cares? I mean you need to identify the cheaters and prosecute them or at least ban them from the game...that's important.

Still hardly relevant to the premier level soccer that most fans watch.

*edit: Seems like there may have been a Champions league qualifier involved, which would be a bit more serious. While Liverpool was in the game, it was the opponents (Debrecen) goal-keeper being (allegedly) paid. So it's still lower level teams affected.