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TheReverend
01-23-2013, 03:37 PM
MacGruder furiously follows and attacks anything non-Tebow related across many message boards.

Tebow is known as a distraction because of the fanaticism of his fans.

...but what if MacGruder is the only one, and he's just THAT annoying and omnipresent that he's completely torpedoed Tim's career. I'd say from the evidence he's presented on the Orangemane, that this possibility is extremely likely.

And if that's the case, is MacGruder an evil genius undermining Tim with every post? Surely being this "next-level" annoying and ignorant is intentional... there's no other explanation. But that brings us to a NEW question... who would possibly have the motive to do this to such a charismatic and genuinely kind man?

After reflecting on this, I arrived at two possible conclusions:

1. MacGruder is TGN

and

2. MacGruder is a Filipino that was forever scarred in an unfortunate circumcision accident and must seize revenge on behalf of his missing penis

I will now reply cryptically to any questions or skepticism you may have with "All truth goes through three phases", "Stay tuned...", and several other vague remarks.

Lev Vyvanse
01-23-2013, 03:47 PM
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/263/430/3a0.jpg

Flex Gunmetal
01-23-2013, 03:51 PM
5*s and.in.
http://i.imgur.com/smkaq.gif

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 03:57 PM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/I-see.gif

gyldenlove
01-23-2013, 03:58 PM
MacGruder furiously follows and attacks anything non-Tebow related across many message boards.

Tebow is known as a distraction because of the fanaticism of his fans.

...but what if MacGruder is the only one, and he's just THAT annoying and omnipresent that he's completely torpedoed Tim's career. I'd say from the evidence he's presented on the Orangemane, that this possibility is extremely likely.

And if that's the case, is MacGruder an evil genius undermining Tim with every post? Surely being this "next-level" annoying and ignorant is intentional... there's no other explanation. But that brings us to a NEW question... who would possibly have the motive to do this to such a charismatic and genuinely kind man?

After reflecting on this, I arrived at two possible conclusions:

1. MacGruder is TGN

and

2. MacGruder is a Filipino that was forever scarred in an unfortunate circumcision accident and must seize revenge on behalf of his missing penis

I will now reply cryptically to any questions or skepticism you may have with "All truth goes through three phases", "Stay tuned...", and several other vague remarks.

I think you are missing 2 very plausible possibilities:

A: Macgruder is Tim Tebow - We all know Tebow did his best work in Denver during the period when people were jumping on the bandwagon, it all began to fall apart once Macgruder had to post too much across multiple boards about conspiracies and defending Tim, what if the reason Tebow began to decline and the reason he has practiced so poorly in New York is that he spends all his time on message boards?

B: Macgruder is not an individual but rather a group of proxy Floridians operating out of a base hidden somewhere in the Appalachians, trying to ensure that a long lost prophecy by the pastor Elmo Hildebrandt prophesizing the return of Christ in the form of a professional QB of great virtue and success will be fullfilled.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 04:15 PM
This from the guy who never has a straight answer for anything...

Anytime you regurgitate his asinine remarks he says "I didn't say that"

Like when he said Peyton Manning was a great athlete...

I didn't say that I said he was "underrated"

lol

The Rev has no clothes...

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 04:18 PM
As for the conspiracy.... I think it's incredible everyone ignores the reality of the situation...

The entire sports media should be pointing out that Tebow outplayed Manning in a playoff game.. yet it's completely ignored...

Even here it's completely ignored... it's unbelievable..

Do people even watch the games with their eyes open?

DenverBrit
01-23-2013, 04:25 PM
As for the conspiracy.... I think it's incredible everyone ignores the reality of the situation...

The entire sports media should be pointing out that Tebow outran Manning in a playoff game.. yet it's completely ignored...

Even here it's completely ignored... it's unbelievable..

Do people even watch the games with their eyes open?

FIFY

TheReverend
01-23-2013, 04:26 PM
This from the guy who never has a straight answer for anything...

Anytime you regurgitate his asinine remarks he says "I didn't say that"

Like when he said Peyton Manning was a great athlete...

I didn't say that I said he was "underrated"

lol

The Rev has no clothes...

All truth goes through three phases...

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 04:26 PM
As for the conspiracy.... I think it's incredible everyone ignores the reality of the situation...

The entire sports media should be pointing out that Tebow outplayed Manning in a playoff game.. yet it's completely ignored...

Even here it's completely ignored... it's unbelievable..

Do people even watch the games with their eyes open?


There's zero to compare. If Manning played the entire game against what was, essentially, a cover zero, the broncos would have won about 159-3

Chris
01-23-2013, 04:30 PM
As for the conspiracy.... I think it's incredible everyone ignores the reality of the situation...

The entire sports media should be pointing out that Tebow outplayed Manning in a playoff game.. yet it's completely ignored...

Even here it's completely ignored... it's unbelievable..

Do people even watch the games with their eyes open?

http://gifs.ozini.com/images/2197.gif

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 04:31 PM
Of course he can't... because he has zero athleticism... regardless of what The Rev will tell you.. lol

He HAS to dink and dunk because the line is so bad and if he gets hit he might be paralyzed...

What kind of lunatic has 4 neck operations misses a year and chooses to play behind the Broncos line?

He had to have been fooled by seeing Tebow's athleticism make the line look so good.

No one else in Denver saw this? Now there's your conspiracy.. how the F did no on else but me get this? LOL It's unbelievable. TRULY unbelievable.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 04:35 PM
All truth goes through three phases...

I respond to your comments.. you just mock anything that is outside of your narrow little box.. which is why your team is out of the playoffs and you are wasting year after year on a Qb who has no future.

Elway's job is secure though.. that's all that matters..

Chris
01-23-2013, 04:36 PM
No one else in Denver saw this? Now there's your conspiracy.. how the F did no on else but me get this? LOL It's unbelievable. TRULY unbelievable.

TRULY crumbebieberaburr?

We went 13-3 and got the #1 seed in the playoffs. Hilarious!

Chris
01-23-2013, 04:37 PM
I respond to your comments.. you just mock anything that is outside of your narrow little box.. which is why your team is out of the playoffs and you are wasting year after year on a Qb who has no future.

Elway's job is secure though.. that's all that matters..

Your quarterback is most likely out of the league dude. You're going to have to replace his poster with your old Jonathan Taylor Thomas shots.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 04:40 PM
TRULY crumbebieberaburr?

We went 13-3 and got the #1 seed in the playoffs. Hilarious!

Do you not realize that there are regular season offenses that aren't successful in the post season?

When teams are in the middle of a season they don't prepare in the same way they do for a playoff game... and that is why Peyton's style falls apart in the post season. It is fool's gold.

Guys in playoff games are giving their absolute all.. The ceiling on Peyton's all is not high... and that is why he looked so out of place in the post season. And ALL the weaknesses of the Broncos that existed when Tebow was QB resurfaced... they were always there.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 04:43 PM
Do you not realize that there are regular season offenses that aren't successful in the post season?

When teams are in the middle of a season they don't prepare in the same way they do for a playoff game... and that is why Peyton's style falls apart in the post season. It is fool's gold.

Guys in playoff games are giving their absolute all.. The ceiling on Peyton's all is not high... and that is why he looked so out of place in the post season. And ALL the weaknesses of the Broncos that existed when Tebow was QB resurfaced... they were always there.

I didn't realize they had wifi connections in insane asylums

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 04:43 PM
Your quarterback is most likely out of the league dude. You're going to have to replace his poster with your old Jonathan Taylor Thomas shots.

And the Broncos will be in full rebuild mode and won't realize how bad Elway is for another 7 years... and you will have to start all over again and likely get another dead beat who follows conventional wisdom and loses to guys like Belichick who take chances...

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 04:45 PM
I didn't realize they had wifi connections in insane asylums

Yeah.. I'm the insane one.. the LOCK for a superbowl was knocked out in their first playoff game but I am the nut.. lol

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 04:47 PM
Yeah.. I'm the insane one.. the LOCK for a superbowl was knocked out in their first playoff game but I am the nut.. lol

The Broncos scored 35 pts in that playoff game (regardless of how they scored them) and lost on what was, essentially, a fluke play.

But yes, It's all because we didn't have Tebow.

And i also didnt realize that playoff games are played in zero gravity below a ceiling of fire.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 04:52 PM
"regardless of how they scored them"... LOL

How many points did Peyton score..... for the other team?

Tebow made the Broncos successful in spite of their weaknesses... he made them the number one rushing team in the NFL. That is what wins in the post season.

Peyton's style has been shown to fail in the post season. Peyton won his 4th playoff game Tebow won his first..

Tebow was even a rookie essentially! And was being hamstrung by the Broncos organization.. still outperformed him.

Houshyamama
01-23-2013, 04:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/EBbvc.jpg

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 04:56 PM
"regardless of how they scored them"... LOL

How points did Peyton score..... for the other team?

Tebow made the Broncos successful in spite of their weaknesses... he made them the number one rushing team in the NFL. That is what wins in the post season.

Peyton's style has been shown to fail in the post season. Peyton won his 4th playoff game Tebow won his first..

Tebow was even a rookie essentially! And was being hamstrung by the Broncos organization.. still outperformed him.

I don't know why I'm bothering arguing this.

Again, Pitt played essentially a cover-0 all day against Tebow in the playoffs. It was a horrible error in judgement on their part. He CANNOT read defenses. At all. Why any team would simplify it for him is beyond me.

Had Rahim Moore made that simple play, Peyton leaves that game with 100+ rating, 3td passes, and a sweet game winning 4th quarter drive. In 10 degree temperature. Was it his perfect game? Hardly. Not even close. Was it good enough to win. Obviously.

This was a defensive **** up.

I was on team timmy last year. Im a broncos fan, thats what i do. But it was clear that he never improved. He never learned how to read a defense, his accuracy was still ****, he's wildly inconsistent. In fact, he looks like he's regressed since college.

The pro game is too big for him. He's just not that bright.

TheReverend
01-23-2013, 05:02 PM
I respond to your comments.. you just mock anything that is outside of your narrow little box.. which is why your team is out of the playoffs and you are wasting year after year on a Qb who has no future.

Elway's job is secure though.. that's all that matters..

You're projecting

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:05 PM
I don't know why I'm bothering arguing this.

Again, Pitt played essentially a cover-0 all day against Tebow in the playoffs. It was a horrible error in judgement on their part. He CANNOT read defenses. At all. Why any team would simplify it for him is beyond me.

That is pure BS.. how do you know he can't read defenses? That is pure speculation. To suggest that the Steelers don't know how to defend Tebow is just complete stupidity. If your argument hinges on that YOU are crazy not I... once again you follow the mindless media who have been shown to be full of BS.

If Tebow couldn't read D then how did he make the playoffs in the first place.. what you are saying makes ZERO sense..

Had Rahim Moore made that simple play, Peyton leaves that game with 100+ rating, 3td passes, and a sweet game winning 4th quarter drive. In 10 degree temperature. Was it his perfect game? Hardly. Not even close. Was it good enough to win. Obviously.

Yes... judge him on meaningless passer rating.. You also forget the Broncos had Del Rio... Tebow did not.. Tebow couldn't even play aggressively on offense for this reason because whenever they did the D collapsed.

This was a defensive **** up.

You mean like McGahee fumbling the ball on a drive that could have ended the game..


I was on team timmy last year. Im a broncos fan, thats what i do. But it was clear that he never improved. He never learned how to read a defense, his accuracy was still ****, he's wildly inconsistent. In fact, he looks like he's regressed since college.

The pro game is too big for him. He's just not that bright.

Tebow didn't improve or Fox didn't improve? Fox almost ruined Peyton before Peyton started running his own offense.. the success Tebow had last season was when he called his own plays too.. but they wouldn't let him do it because the D stunk and the more they scored the more the D collapsed.

If you want to see Tebow improve you need to let him play.. just like Carolina let Cam play... they let him flush 2 seasons... Tebow has already shown more of an upside than Cam.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:07 PM
You're projecting

"Dat ass" is projecting.

That's what it means to be a real fan...

Houshyamama
01-23-2013, 05:09 PM
I tried to have a legitimate debate/conversation with MacGruder a few times. It was a surreal experience.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:10 PM
I tried to have a legitimate debate/conversation with MacGruder a few times. It was a surreal experience.

It's scary to think for yourself and not just let the talking heads think for you..

Houshyamama
01-23-2013, 05:11 PM
It's scary to think for yourself and not just let the talking heads think for you..

You and I have a different definition of "thinking".

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 05:12 PM
That is pure BS.. how do you know he can't read defenses? That is pure speculation. To suggest that the Steelers don't know how to defend Tebow is just complete stupidity. If your argument hinges on that YOU are crazy not I... once again you follow the mindless media who have been shown to be full of BS.

If Tebow couldn't read D then how did he make the playoffs in the first place.. what you are saying makes ZERO sense..



Yes... judge him on meaningless passer rating.. You also forget the Broncos had Del Rio... Tebow did not.. Tebow couldn't even play aggressively on offense for this reason because whenever they did the D collapsed.



You mean like McGahee fumbling the ball on a drive that could have ended the game..



Tebow didn't improve or Fox didn't improve? Fox almost ruined Peyton before Peyton started running his own offense.. the success Tebow had last season was when he called his own plays too.. but they wouldn't let him do it because the D stunk and the more they scored the more the D collapsed.

If you want to see Tebow improve you need to let him play.. just like Carolina let Cam play... they let him flush 2 seasons... Tebow has already shown more of an upside than Cam.

Anyone care to enlighten me on the **** he's talking about?

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:15 PM
You and I have a different definition of "thinking".

Did you think the Broncos were going to win the superbowl?

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:17 PM
Anyone care to enlighten me on the **** he's talking about?

I am talking about when McGahee fumbled the ball versus the steelers and that forced it to go to overtime where Tebow won it and Peyton didn't

Houshyamama
01-23-2013, 05:19 PM
Did you think the Broncos were going to win the superbowl?

http://i.imgur.com/mfO0XQJ.gif

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 05:19 PM
I am talking about when McGahee fumbled the ball versus the steelers and that forced it to go to overtime where Tebow won it and Peyton didn't

Where Tebow threw an easy pass against a cover zero.

Basically what they played against him the ENTIRE GAME. Even when they were in cover-1, Polamalu would cheat up. Why they didnt play a normal D is beyond me.

Sorry, MacGruder, he sucks. No one held him down except for himself. Lead how to read a D, not one receiver and then tuck and run.

errand
01-23-2013, 05:19 PM
Anyone care to enlighten me on the **** he's talking about?


McGahee fumbled vs. Steelers in 4th qtr....and they tied the score 23-23 if memory serves me right

bowtown
01-23-2013, 05:23 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/31509506.jpg

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:23 PM
Where Tebow threw an easy pass against a cover zero.

Basically what they played against him the ENTIRE GAME. Even when they were in cover-1, Polamalu would cheat up. Why they didnt play a normal D is beyond me.

Sorry, MacGruder, he sucks. No one held him down except for himself. Lead how to read a D, not one receiver and then tuck and run.

So you think it's just a coincidence Peyton sucked in the same offense early in the season too until Fox had to change it then Peyton's play skyrocketed?

And you think the Steelers know less about playing D than the fans and media.. lol

But I'm the crazy one and Tebow "sucks"..

Have you consdered that the reason the Tebow tucked and ran and the reason Peyton was checking down all game might be one and the same...

The Oline, receivers and run game STUNK... not to mention the coaching..

Houshyamama
01-23-2013, 05:25 PM
I'm the crazy one and Tebow "sucks"..

Now that you've accepted it, the healing process can begin.

DBroncos4life
01-23-2013, 05:27 PM
Manning skipped that round of the playoffs because he doesn't ****ing suck like Teblow does. Then we lost in double overtime of the next round not 1 second after NE took the field the year before.

TheReverend
01-23-2013, 05:27 PM
"Dat ass" is projecting.

That's what it means to be a real fan...

You're turning this into a witch-hunt to avoid the truth.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:28 PM
Now that you've accepted it, the healing process can begin.

And you all are getting ready to be fitted for superbowl rings, right? The sane ones..

Drink the kool-aid...

Elway is a genius...

Drink the kool-aid...

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:28 PM
You're turning this into a witch-hunt to avoid the truth.

The truth about Peyton Manning being a great athlete?

No one has a handle on the truth like the Rev..

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:29 PM
http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/tebow-bad-throw.gif

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:30 PM
Very sad to see this play disappear from the playbook.

http://i.imgur.com/cau5W.gif

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:30 PM
Manning skipped that round of the playoffs because he doesn't ****ing suck like Teblow does. Then we lost in double overtime of the next round not 1 second after NE took the field the year before.

Maybe that's because the coaches and Elway chose Orton over Tebow for 5 games.. hell Tebow almost pulled one of those games 2 TDs down..

Peyton loses games 2 TDs up Tebow wins them 2 Tds down.. if not for Lloyd Fing him over...

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:32 PM
Tebow's superior athleticism at work, y'all:

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs5/3308964_o.gif

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:32 PM
Very sad to see this play disappear from the playbook.

http://i.imgur.com/cau5W.gif

Only a lemming would post a great play as if it's a bad play.. shows how clueless so many are.

That single move from Tebow was probably more athletic than anything Peyton did in his career... certainly that last playoff game...

DBroncos4life
01-23-2013, 05:33 PM
Very sad to see this play disappear from the playbook.

http://i.imgur.com/cau5W.gif

Super spin :thumbs:

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:33 PM
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17xd34dz0tgv1gif/original.gif

slingin' it

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:34 PM
Tebow's superior athleticism at work, y'all:

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs5/3308964_o.gif

Yes.. it's much better seeing Orton and Peyton Fetaling all game long.. or roll out on 2 wooden legs and dink and dunk an INT in overtime.. lol

Houshyamama
01-23-2013, 05:34 PM
And you all are getting ready to be fitted for superbowl rings, right? The sane ones..

Drink the kool-aid...

Elway is a genius...

Drink the kool-aid...

Conversations with you don't follow any sort of logic or progression. They just jump all over the place. You bring up completely unrelated topics and use them as "evidence" for points that only exist in your head.

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:35 PM
ahaha why don't i remember this one

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/804962/tebow1.gif

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:36 PM
no way manning eludes the line of scrimmage like that, never

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE34svW3hYQ

This guy looks like a gazelle compared to Peyton...

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:37 PM
doop what a warrior

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/936724/fumble.gif

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:38 PM
just a reminder that he was "out-dueled" by kyle orton in that game

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:39 PM
ahaha why don't i remember this one

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/804962/tebow1.gif

Yes... those things can happen when you actually TRY to win... rather than just being a show pony and trying to look pretty... as all NFL Qbs are taught.

All Tebow cares about is winning.. not throwing pretty interceptions while padding his stats...

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:40 PM
well, that's enough for now. if anyone ever wants to get the giggles, just google "tebow gif," there are some great ones.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:40 PM
just a reminder that he was "out-dueled" by kyle orton in that game

Peyton Manning struggled to beat Brady Quinn.. who might have put up the worst set of games in NFL history.. LOL

Keep drinkin that Elway kool-aid tho.. "Peyton knows Elway is right: he needs to be better than Quinn"

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 05:41 PM
So you think it's just a coincidence Peyton sucked in the same offense early in the season too until Fox had to change it then Peyton's play skyrocketed?

And you think the Steelers know less about playing D than the fans and media.. lol

But I'm the crazy one and Tebow "sucks"..

Have you consdered that the reason the Tebow tucked and ran and the reason Peyton was checking down all game might be one and the same...

The Oline, receivers and run game STUNK... not to mention the coaching..

Yes, in this case, I am claiming the steelers ****ed up. Majorly.

And yes, he sucks.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:41 PM
well, that's enough for now. if anyone ever wants to get the giggles, just google "tebow gif," there are some great ones.

Yeah... you sure proved your point.. lol

Team delusion strikes again...

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 05:42 PM
Peyton Manning struggled to beat Brady Quinn.. who might have put up the worst set of games in NFL history.. LOL

Keep drinkin that Elway kool-aid tho.. "Peyton knows Elway is right: he needs to be better than Quinn"

God, your stupidity is infuriating. Find a girl, get laid. Go travel, see the world. Quit yelling from street corners

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 05:42 PM
As for the conspiracy.... I think it's incredible everyone ignores the reality of the situation...

The entire sports media should be pointing out that Tebow outplayed Manning in a playoff game.. yet it's completely ignored...

Even here it's completely ignored... it's unbelievable..

Do people even watch the games with their eyes open?

Pretty funny the divisional round tebow had was terrible.

TheReverend
01-23-2013, 05:43 PM
Yeah... you sure proved your point.. lol

Team delusion strikes again...

Stay tuned...

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 05:43 PM
Peyton Manning struggled to beat Brady Quinn.. who might have put up the worst set of games in NFL history.. LOL

Keep drinkin that Elway kool-aid tho.. "Peyton knows Elway is right: he needs to be better than Quinn"

Big difference dummy. Peyton still came out with a win, yet tebow lost

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:43 PM
Yes, in this case, I am claiming the steelers ****ed up. Majorly.

And yes, he sucks.

You don't understand football then. There are only 2 different ways to defend a player like Tebow... you have to pick your poison. Tebow showed he can beat teams either way.

If he is being held back like Fox is known to do Tebow or anyone else will be screwed.. that is what you are ignoring.

rugbythug
01-23-2013, 05:44 PM
Peyton Manning struggled to beat Brady Quinn.. who might have put up the worst set of games in NFL history.. LOL

Keep drinkin that Elway kool-aid tho.. "Peyton knows Elway is right: he needs to be better than Quinn"

Tebow has started around 11 games in his career correct? Give or take. I bet you if you cherry pick Mannings worst 11 games for his career he still stacks up better than Tebow.

Lev Vyvanse
01-23-2013, 05:45 PM
God, your stupidity is infuriating. Find a girl, get laid. Go travel, see the world. Quit yelling from street corners

I think you're missing the point. See option #2 in the OP.

rugbythug
01-23-2013, 05:45 PM
You don't understand football then. There are only 2 different ways to defend a player like Tebow... you have to pick your poison. Tebow showed he can beat teams either way.

If he is being held back like Fox is known to do Tebow or anyone else will be screwed.. that is what you are ignoring.

Which Poison did the Patriots Pick? Looked like Red Bull and Vodka to me.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:46 PM
Big difference dummy. Peyton still came out with a win, yet tebow lost

But Tebow didn't have Del Rio.. he didn't have a healthy running back.. he didn't have an organization letting him play his style.. he had an organization trying to bring him down.. he didn't have veteran receivers like Peyton had.. he didn't have even a training camp.. and Peyton was a seasoned vet..

And he couldn't handle the Chiefs and Quinn.. LOL

And no one pointed this out.. UNBELIEVABLE.

DBroncos4life
01-23-2013, 05:47 PM
The Jets are going to have to pony up another draft pick to get the Pats to take that cancer off their hands. It might be worth it though no team as ever won more then 8 games with Teblow on the roster.

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:47 PM
But Tebow didn't have Del Rio.. he didn't have a healthy running back.. he didn't have an organization letting him play his style.. he had an organization trying to bring him down.. he didn't have veteran receivers like Peyton had.. he didn't have even a training camp.. and Peyton was a seasoned vet..

And he couldn't handle the Chiefs and Quinn.. LOL

And no one pointed this out.. UNBELIEVABLE.

COULDNT HANDLE THEM

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012123012/2012/REG17/chiefs@broncos#menu=highlights&tab=recap

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 05:47 PM
But Tebow didn't have Del Rio.. he didn't have a healthy running back.. he didn't have an organization letting him play his style.. he had an organization trying to bring him down.. he didn't have veteran receivers like Peyton had.. he didn't have even a training camp.. and Peyton was a seasoned vet..

And he couldn't handle the Chiefs and Quinn.. LOL

And no one pointed this out.. UNBELIEVABLE.

Haha! He didn't NEED del rio! The defense gave up a whole 7 ****ing points that game. What was del rio gonna do? Are you saying tebow needs a defensive shutout to beat Orton?

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:48 PM
but then again manning had those "veteran receivers" that tebow didn't have except that he did.

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:49 PM
let's give the guy a break, everyone, the gators had a rough bowl game

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:49 PM
Which Poison did the Patriots Pick? Looked like Red Bull and Vodka to me.

You are talking about apples and oranges.. The Broncos line couldn't even hold a candle to the Pats line.. Tebow never had a chance in that game. Just a total mismatch of line play.

LIKELY caused by the extra week which the Pats got because the Broncos wasted 5 games on Orton PLUS the game in which they never built the offense around Tebow.

Not to mention the horrid D because of no Del Rio so Tebow had no chance to come back in the game.

PLUS Fox had something to lose in that Pats game.. against the Steelers he didn't.. he thought it was all over. The more Fox has to lose the worse he is.. just like against the Chiefs. in the last game.

Belichick owns Fox..

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:51 PM
but then again manning had those "veteran receivers" that tebow didn't have except that he did.

No.. Tebow had his veterans move.. Lloyd, Gaffney - who was Tebow's biggest supporter.

Elway screwed Tebow last season to help the new guy he picked this season.. putting veterans who knew Peyton like the back of their hands...

DBroncos4life
01-23-2013, 05:52 PM
let's give the guy a break, everyone, the gators had a rough bowl game

And Cam Newton is kicking ass while Teblow is on his way out of the NFL.

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:53 PM
hey mkgrudr you agree that greg mcelroy is better than tebow, right? he had a better sec record and all.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:54 PM
Tebow has started around 11 games in his career correct? Give or take. I bet you if you cherry pick Mannings worst 11 games for his career he still stacks up better than Tebow.

Yes... playing a style that equals playoff futility...

Tebow's style is built for the playoffs.. which is why all he does is win big games and all Peyton does is lose them..

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:55 PM
hey mkgrudr you agree that greg mcelroy is better than tebow, right? he had a better sec record and all.

I agree that McElroy had Saban.. and Saban owned Urban Meyer which is why Meyer got out of there as fast as he could when he lost Tebow..

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:55 PM
Yes... playing a style that equals playoff futility...

Tebow's style is built for the playoffs.. which is why all he does is win big games and all Peyton does is lose them..

which is why tebaw won the 2010 sce championship and hoisted the lombardee last year

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:56 PM
I agree that McElroy had Saban.. and Saban owned Urban Meyer which is why Meyer got out of there as fast as he could when he lost Tebow..

i agree, the jette will be rally good next year with mcelroy

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:57 PM
And Cam Newton is kicking ass while Teblow is on his way out of the NFL.

More blind following the blind.. Cam is kicking Tebow's ass? lol

Maybe in Peyton manning criteria.. empty yards, empty wins and plenty of INTs...

He sure looks pretty standing in the pocket like a statue though.. That's QBing in the NFL..

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 05:58 PM
i agree, the jette will be rally good next year with mcelroy

Yeah... they looked really good with him.. Practice sure is a good indicator of ability.. Just like with Orton..

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 05:58 PM
hey mcgriddle is there any defense that could stop the tebaw? coudl the 2000 ravens?

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 06:01 PM
hey mcgriddle is there any defense that could stop the tebaw? coudl the 2000 ravens?

Tebow get beat by Flacco? No way in hell... That would only happen to a washed up never-was like Peyton or Brady... guys who have such big egos they don't know when it's over..

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 06:02 PM
Tebow get beat by Flacco? No way in hell... That would only happen to a washed up never-was like Peyton or Brady... guys who have such big egos they don't know when it's over..

NO MANG NOT THE 2013 RAVENS THE 2000 ONES

errand
01-23-2013, 06:02 PM
Tebow has started around 11 games in his career correct? Give or take. I bet you if you cherry pick Mannings worst 11 games for his career he still stacks up better than Tebow.

16 if you count his 2 playoff games.....he's 9-7 overall (.563)

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 06:06 PM
NO MANG NOT THE 2013 RAVENS THE 2000 ONES

Lose to Dilfer? No way in hell...

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 06:08 PM
Lose to Dilfer? No way in hell...

cmon mcdonald, stick with me here. I didn't ask if Tebow could beat the 2000 ravens in a game. i was asking if they had any chance of ever stopping the tebone.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 06:11 PM
cmon mcdonald, stick with me here. I didn't ask if Tebow could beat the 2000 ravens in a game. i was asking if they had any chance of ever stopping the tebone.

You have to define stopping... With Fox it wouldn't take much to stop Tebow... Fox does that on his own.

Without Fox.. I think it would be a great game..

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 06:13 PM
You have to define stopping... With Fox it wouldn't take much to stop Tebow... Fox does that on his own.

Without Fox.. I think it would be a great game..

By the way, if all 32 teams dont want tebow, what will be your excuse then?

DenverBound
01-23-2013, 06:14 PM
Of course he can't... because he has zero athleticism... regardless of what The Rev will tell you.. lol

He HAS to dink and dunk because the line is so bad and if he gets hit he might be paralyzed...

What kind of lunatic has 4 neck operations misses a year and chooses to play behind the Broncos line?

He had to have been fooled by seeing Tebow's athleticism make the line look so good.

No one else in Denver saw this? Now there's your conspiracy.. how the F did no on else but me get this? LOL It's unbelievable. TRULY unbelievable.

MacGruder, all of your answers are in the bolded statement. You honestly think that everyone in the Media, the Broncos AND the Jets franchises are all blind and you are the only one that is enlightened by the truth?

You're a ****in' wacko bro...

errand
01-23-2013, 06:16 PM
Yes... playing a style that equals playoff futility...

Tebow's style is built for the playoffs.. which is why all he does is win big games and all Peyton does is lose them..

Biggest game of their professional careers...

Manning (SB) 1-1
Tebow AFC divisional round (0-1)

Archer81
01-23-2013, 06:17 PM
http://tinyurl.com/bxxvylb


:Broncos:

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 06:23 PM
By the way, if all 32 teams dont want tebow, what will be your excuse then?

Tom Brady was a 6th round pick... and he was a prototypical QB.. Tebow is far more unorthodox. Considering that it is easy to see how so many could miss on Tebow..

NFL teams nearly missed out on Steve Young too...

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 06:26 PM
You have to define stopping... With Fox it wouldn't take much to stop Tebow... Fox does that on his own.

Without Fox.. I think it would be a great game..

the team is coached by HoFer Greasy Neale, and he is behind the 2008 SEC Championship winning Florida Gators OLine

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 06:26 PM
Biggest game of their professional careers...

Manning (SB) 1-1
Tebow AFC divisional round (0-1)

Tebow made the AFC divisional game while a team was trying to railroad him... your comparison is invalid...

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 06:27 PM
Tom Brady was a 6th round pick... and he was a prototypical QB.. Tebow is far more unorthodox. Considering that it is easy to see how so many could miss on Tebow..

NFL teams nearly missed out on Steve Young too...

noted #1 overall pick steve young

Archer81
01-23-2013, 06:29 PM
http://tinyurl.com/7cj2atf


:Broncos:

Archer81
01-23-2013, 06:31 PM
http://tinyurl.com/7wa4b77


:Broncos:

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 06:33 PM
MacGruder, all of your answers are in the bolded statement. You honestly think that everyone in the Media, the Broncos AND the Jets franchises are all blind and you are the only one that is enlightened by the truth?

You're a ****in' wacko bro...

What other explanation is there.. it's called cognitive dissonance... People are so conditioned to think a certain way that no matter what happens they refuse to believe it when it's proven wrong.

Before Tebow came into the NFL everyone said the spread option would never work.. now it's going wild.. AFTER Tebow proved it could work....

Also, Fox is death to Qbs.. he did the same to Orton.. Orton's career is over too.

Tebow gets blamed for Fox's offense.. he even made Peyton look terrible early on until Peyton starting running his own offense.

Yes.. I am the wacko and the Steelers don't know how to defend rookie QBs...

Archer81
01-23-2013, 06:34 PM
http://tinyurl.com/bjouxpu


:Broncos:

Blueflame
01-23-2013, 06:39 PM
One wonders if the object of your affection appreciates you contradicting him, MacGruder... I mean he claims to be a virgin but you just stated that Elway screwed him last year... :P

(so according to MacGruder, Tim is lying about being a virgin... and he's gay.)

Archer81
01-23-2013, 06:39 PM
http://tinyurl.com/bjk56a4


:Broncos:

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 06:44 PM
What other explanation is there.. it's called cognitive dissonance... People are so conditioned to think a certain way that no matter what happens they refuse to believe it when it's proven wrong.

Before Tebow came into the NFL everyone said the spread option would never work.. now it's going wild.. AFTER Tebow proved it could work....

Also, Fox is death to Qbs.. he did the same to Orton.. Orton's career is over too.

Tebow gets blamed for Fox's offense.. he even made Peyton look terrible early on until Peyton starting running his own offense.

Yes.. I am the wacko and the Steelers don't know how to defend rookie QBs...

listen guise fox killed the career of jake delhomme too trufax

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 06:45 PM
One wonders if the object of your affection appreciates you contradicting him, MacGruder... I mean he claims to be a virgin but you just stated that Elway screwed him last year... :P

(so according to MacGruder, Tim is lying about being a virgin... and he's gay.)

Peter Tebow seemed to indicate the same thing - "karma"

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 06:45 PM
Yes.. I am the wacko and the Steelers don't know how to defend rookie QBs...

Its amazing even to this day idiots like this still believe tebow was a rookie last year.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 06:47 PM
Its amazing even to this day idiots like this still believe tebow was a rookie last year.

The person I was arguing with said he couldn't read defenses.. that was my point.

Tebow never played in a NFL style offense so he was definitely a rookie in the NFL for all intents and purposes..

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 06:48 PM
What other explanation is there.. it's called cognitive dissonance... People are so conditioned to think a certain way that no matter what happens they refuse to believe it when it's proven wrong.

Before Tebow came into the NFL everyone said the spread option would never work.. now it's going wild.. AFTER Tebow proved it could work....

Also, Fox is death to Qbs.. he did the same to Orton.. Orton's career is over too.

Tebow gets blamed for Fox's offense.. he even made Peyton look terrible early on until Peyton starting running his own offense.

Yes.. I am the wacko and the Steelers don't know how to defend rookie QBs...


I have yet to see Wilson kapernick or RG3 have ridiculous bad games like tebow had. None of them have a 45% complete rate. Kaep is one of the most accurate passers in the league. Your boy throws at dirt.

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 06:49 PM
The person I was arguing with said he couldn't read defenses.. that was my point.

Tebow never played in a NFL style offense so he was definitely a rookie in the NFL for all intents and purposes..

Bull****. Colin Kaep had clearly progressed without playing his rookie year. Keep up the excuses.

Every one of your posts in here has an excuse. Excuses as to why tebow is unemployed and sucking.

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 06:51 PM
Its amazing even to this day idiots like this still believe tebow was a rookie last year.

he's still only a sophomore too because he didn't do anything this season

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 06:56 PM
I have yet to see Wilson kapernick or RG3 have ridiculous bad games like tebow had. None of them have a 45% complete rate. Kaep is one of the most accurate passers in the league. Your boy throws at dirt.

Both of them are on good offenses... not the most terrible team in the NFL over the past 20 games. If the brocnos had been a decent team Tebow would have never gotten a chance to play on the Brocnos just like with the Jets.

And Tebow LOOKS bad... a big part of that is Fox but it's also the style Tebow plays.. he plays UGLY but HYPER efficient. He doesn't want to risk INTs.. look at Kaep with his bad INTS.. and this is on a loaded team with a great offensive coach.

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 06:56 PM
Its amazing even to this day idiots like this still believe tebow was a rookie last year.

Your logic will be tested with Twilight. From this point forward if he doesn't look better than Luck did this year he's a scrub. Because Drunk said so.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 06:57 PM
he's still only a sophomore too because he didn't do anything this season

It's true.. IF you want to judge him realistically.. If Tebow had played all his career in pro style offenses then I wouldn't say that.

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 06:59 PM
Both of them are on good offenses... not the most terrible team in the NFL over the past 20 games. If the brocnos had been a decent team Tebow would have never gotten a chance to play on the Brocnos just like with the Jets.

And Tebow LOOKS bad... a big part of that is Fox but it's also the style Tebow plays.. he plays UGLY but HYPER efficient. He doesn't want to risk INT.. look at Kaep with his bad INTS.. and this is on a loaded team with a great offensive coach.

hyper efficent tebow, 2011: 12/6 td-int ration
poop-efficent colin kaepernick, 2012: 10/3

yupyup

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 07:00 PM
It's true.. IF you want to judge him realistically.. If Tebow had played all his career in pro style offenses then I wouldn't say that.

how many years do you think it takes to adjust to the speed of the nfl compared to the sec (you know, how to slow down, take less hits)? I think 10 myself

Kaylore
01-23-2013, 07:00 PM
5*s and.in.
http://i.imgur.com/smkaq.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9uo4eKlz71qk5d6ao1_500.gif

RhymesayersDU
01-23-2013, 07:04 PM
Holy **** is this thread real?

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 07:04 PM
hyper efficent tebow, 2011: 12/6 td-int ration
poop-efficent colin kaepernick, 2012: 10/3

yupyup

You just ignored what I said about Kaep being on a good team with a good coach unlike the Broncos with Fox... or even the Jets with Sparano and Rex.

If Tebow was on the 9ers he might have fewer TDs but he would also have fewer INTs... he would have a lower FG% but fewer INTS and he'd have more yards rushing.

A big reason TEbow plays like this though is because no one will give him a chance to play though.. people are all watching and all waiting for him to fall. he can't develop like others and a normal pace and isn't allowed to make mistakes others do.. Like Peyton;s 3 INTs in a quarter.. or 3 straight losses.. Fox would have put Quinn in..

So he is trying to play in a pro style offense for the first time on a high wire..

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 07:04 PM
Your logic will be tested with Twilight. From this point forward if he doesn't look better than Luck did this year he's a scrub. Because Drunk said so.

Are you for real? When Brock does get in you can bet I won't be stupid enough to call it his rookie year.

DBroncos4life
01-23-2013, 07:05 PM
Bull****. Colin Kaep had clearly progressed without playing his rookie year. Keep up the excuses.

Every one of your posts in here has an excuse. Excuses as to why tebow is unemployed and sucking.

What is even better is that Kaep is running a ****ing pistol offense and Macretard is to dumb to understand that.

baja
01-23-2013, 07:06 PM
MacGruder furiously follows and attacks anything non-Tebow related across many message boards.

Tebow is known as a distraction because of the fanaticism of his fans.

...but what if MacGruder is the only one, and he's just THAT annoying and omnipresent that he's completely torpedoed Tim's career. I'd say from the evidence he's presented on the Orangemane, that this possibility is extremely likely.

And if that's the case, is MacGruder an evil genius undermining Tim with every post? Surely being this "next-level" annoying and ignorant is intentional... there's no other explanation. But that brings us to a NEW question... who would possibly have the motive to do this to such a charismatic and genuinely kind man?

After reflecting on this, I arrived at two possible conclusions:

1. MacGruder is TGN

and

2. MacGruder is a Filipino that was forever scarred in an unfortunate circumcision accident and must seize revenge on behalf of his missing penis

I will now reply cryptically to any questions or skepticism you may have with "All truth goes through three phases", "Stay tuned...", and several other vague remarks.

Wait, what! You stated you were 100% sure I was MacGruder and claimed to have proof.

You are either a lier of an idiot, which is it?

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 07:07 PM
is tebow real?

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 07:08 PM
Both of them are on good offenses... not the most terrible team in the NFL over the past 20 games. If the brocnos had been a decent team Tebow would have never gotten a chance to play on the Brocnos just like with the Jets.

And Tebow LOOKS bad... a big part of that is Fox but it's also the style Tebow plays.. he plays UGLY but HYPER efficient. He doesn't want to risk INTs.. look at Kaep with his bad INTS.. and this is on a loaded team with a great offensive coach.

Really?? Cause when Alex smith was in there that offense wasn't doing ANYTHING. Crabtree was not excelling. Gore was overused. That offense couldn't play from behind with Smith. Kaep comes in and instantly MADE that offense better. GTFO saying those offenses were good. Washington?? How did their offense look without RG3. Seattle? Ya they were a powerhouse with Tavaris. Those QBs made those offenses good. Funny thing about your boy tebow, subtract him from an offense and they look better.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 07:08 PM
how many years do you think it takes to adjust to the speed of the nfl compared to the sec (you know, how to slow down, take less hits)? I think 10 myself

It's not the speed you dingus.. lol

It's just playing in that style of O.. Under center dropping back...

To play at the highest level when everyone knows you are not accustomed to that style of play is tough. Especially when your team isn't adapting to you like others adapted to Cam, etc...

And Tebow has a far bigger target than these guys too.. people want to see him fail for some reason.. they want to be the ones to take him down because of the unprecedented hype.

Kaylore
01-23-2013, 07:09 PM
This guy looks like a gazelle compared to Peyton...

http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/345158/peyton-tries-parkour.gif

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 07:10 PM
It's just playing in that style of O.. Under center dropping back.

Let me know when your boy learns that.

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 07:10 PM
It's not the speed you dingus.. lol

It's just playing in that style of O.. Under center dropping back...

To play at the highest level when everyone knows you are not accustomed to that style of play is tough. Especially when your team isn't adapting to you like others adapted to Cam, etc...

And Tebow has a far bigger target than these guys too.. people want to see him fail for some reason.. they want to be the ones to take him down because of the unprecedented hype.

If Tebow fails in the woods and no one is around, does it make a sound?

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 07:11 PM
Are you for real? When Brock does get in you can bet I won't be stupid enough to call it his rookie year.

I'll still call him a rookie. Because there's not any realistic difference. But I'll be sure to remember that if we hit a 3 game rough patch with Brock in his first year its time to throw in the towel. Because Drunk says so.

Kaylore
01-23-2013, 07:11 PM
I don't think Tim Tebow knows how to throw the ball forward. I think the coaching staff tried to show him but he probably just lifts weights and thinks about lifting weights in his meetings. He probably ignores all his coaches completely.

I believe this as surely as I believe we need a new world order to govern the whole world.

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 07:12 PM
http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/345158/peyton-tries-parkour.gif

pshw

http://usdirect.com/wp-content/uploads/23879/Tebow-Pass.gif

let's just remember this: heismans - tim 1 peyton 0

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 07:14 PM
I'll still call him a rookie. Because there's not any realistic difference. But I'll be sure to remember that if we hit a 3 game rough patch with Brock in his first year its time to throw in the towel. Because Drunk says so.

Yes there is and Colin kaepernick is the perfect example. Jim Harbaugh had a year with him in full development. He benefited from that. Had Colin been a rookie? He wouldn't be playing as great IMO. Likely not going to the SB

I like the drunk says so. Catchy. Must be embarrassing for you to share the beliefs of MacGruder.

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 07:14 PM
I'll still call him a rookie. Because there's not any realistic difference. But I'll be sure to remember that if we hit a 3 game rough patch with Brock in his first year its time to throw in the towel. Because Drunk says so.

and what do YOU think of greg mcelroy's chances in the NFL?

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 07:15 PM
Really?? Cause when Alex smith was in there that offense wasn't doing ANYTHING. Crabtree was not excelling. Gore was overused. That offense couldn't play from behind with Smith. Kaep comes in and instantly MADE that offense better. GTFO saying those offenses were good. Washington?? How did their offense look without RG3. Seattle? Ya they were a powerhouse with Tavaris. Those QBs made those offenses good. Funny thing about your boy tebow, subtract him from an offense and they look better.

The 9era nearly went to the superbowl the previous season.. Oton got the Broncos the number 2 pick...

The Broncos had the worst record in the NFL over the past 20 some odd games. The 9ers have a great D too... The Brocnos were one of the worst in the NFL.

Cousins won a game on the Seahawks.. coming into the middle of a playoff game with no experience and no prep is not easy at all. Grossman even played well in that offense the season before..

Yeah.. the Broncos O LOOKED better.. but in actuality they weren't. That's my point about these Tebow wannabes too... It's likely fool's gold and Tebow's game is incredibly underrated.

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 07:17 PM
The 9era nearly went to the superbowl the previous season.. Oton got the Broncos the number 2 pick...

The Broncos had the worst record in the NFL over the past 20 some odd games. The 9ers have a great D too... The Brocnos were one of the worst in the NFL.

Cousins won a game on the Seahawks.. coming into the middle of a playoff game with no experience and no prep is not easy at all. Grossman even played well in that offense the season before..

Yeah.. the Broncos O LOOKED better.. but in actuality they weren't. That's my point about these Tebow wannabes too... It's likely fool's gold and Tebow's game is incredibly underrated.


It's cute you call them tebow wannabes. Yet they are starters and he's pedaling Ludacris headphones.

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 07:19 PM
Cousins won a game on the Seahawks.. coming into the middle of a playoff game with no experience and no prep is not easy at all. Grossman even played well in that offense the season before..


Bhaha let's soak this in

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 07:25 PM
Yes there is and Colin kaepernick is the perfect example. Jim Harbaugh had a year with him in full development. He benefited from that. Had Colin been a rookie? He wouldn't be playing as great IMO. Likely not going to the SB

I like the drunk says so. Catchy. Must be embarrassing for you to share the beliefs of MacGruder.

Its funny that you think a little extra time with the McDumbass twins would lead to such miraculous progression. LOL

Archer81
01-23-2013, 07:25 PM
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:Broncos:

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 07:27 PM
Bhaha let's soak this in

Bush league... I can see why you guys would want to take any victory you can right now though..

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 07:28 PM
and what do YOU think of greg mcelroy's chances in the NFL?

He wasn't a "rookie" either. So he's already washed up I guess.

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 07:28 PM
Its funny that you think a little extra time with the McDumbass twins would lead to such miraculous progression. LOL

Uh ya I do. Just like he did at U of San Diego. Just like he did at Stanford. And now just like he's doing in SF. What do these 3 teams have in common? They all sucked before Harbaugh got there. Harbaugh coaches his players, unlike others. Results are easy to see.

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 07:31 PM
Uh ya I do. Just like he did at U of San Diego. Just like he did at Stanford. And now just like he's doing in SF. What do these 3 teams have in common? They all sucked before Harbaugh got there. Harbaugh coaches his players, unlike others. Results are easy to see.

So you're putting McCoy and McDaniels on that same level? Have fun stroking that chicken dude.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-23-2013, 07:31 PM
well, that's enough for now. if anyone ever wants to get the giggles, just google "tebow gif," there are some great ones.

Thank you for this.

Blueflame
01-23-2013, 07:38 PM
Did MacGruder just admit to being Peter Tebow in Post #108? ???

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 07:38 PM
So you're putting McCoy and McDaniels on that same level? Have fun stroking that chicken dude.

What? You lost me now. You insinuated Kaep didnt benefit by being in the league a full year before he started. I'm saying he did. I Must've misunderstood your post.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-23-2013, 07:38 PM
hey mcgriddle is there any defense that could stop the tebaw? coudl the 2000 ravens?

85 Bears, MAYBE.

Wait, wait... Tebow vs a hurricane? Who wins?








Before you answer, what if the hurricane was Hurricane Tebow??!?!!!?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-23-2013, 07:41 PM
It's not the speed you dingus.. lol

It's just playing in that style of O.. Under center dropping back...

To play at the highest level when everyone knows you are not accustomed to that style of play is tough. Especially when your team isn't adapting to you like others adapted to Cam, etc...

And Tebow has a far bigger target than these guys too.. people want to see him fail for some reason.. they want to be the ones to take him down because of the unprecedented hype.

Do you own a mirror?

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 07:42 PM
People think Tebow is just some idiot out there... to play the way he does without getting injured more is a testament to his genius... RGIII should take a lesson from Tebow and his unpredictability.. Peyton too...

Defenses eat Peyton up with a spoon in the playoffs because he is so predictable. For someone supposedly so smart Peyton sure plays like a dolt. He tries to play by the book too much.. he's your normal robot NFL QB.. his ego probably prevents him from taking risks though. That is something really incredibly underrated about Tebow... his unbelievable humbleness. He's not afraid to look stupid even if it gets him a win.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 07:43 PM
Do you own a mirror?

So me defending him from asinine criticism is why people want him to fail.. that makes zero sense...

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 07:45 PM
Did MacGruder just admit to being Peter Tebow in Post #108? ???

No.. because I am not Peter Tebow.. so I couldn't have...

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-23-2013, 07:45 PM
Tebow + "genius"


= LOL

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-23-2013, 07:46 PM
So me defending him from asinine criticism is why people want him to fail.. that makes zero sense...

No, you being a total unabashed tebow jock sniff, unrepentantly making statements along the lines of "tim is better than Peyton!" Is what makes people want him to fail. You ARE the circus.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 07:50 PM
It's cute you call them tebow wannabes. Yet they are starters and he's pedaling Ludacris headphones.

They are Tebow wannabes.. Tebow-lites...

RGIII already may have ruined his career.. imagine if he played in the SEC.. he wouldn't have lasted there like Tebow. Manziel will find that out next season.

Kaep looks like a twig running around out there.

It's so funny to me how the NBA had a guy like Shaq and loved him dominating a supposed game of skill.. Yet here Tebow is in the NFL which is supposed to be a physical sport and people totally ignore his phsyical dominance and toughness... another example of people just being completely backwards...

Blueflame
01-23-2013, 07:52 PM
Tebow was inactive due to injury for at least one game in the 2012 season, no?

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 07:53 PM
No, you being a total unabashed tebow jock sniff, unrepentantly making statements along the lines of "tim is better than Peyton!" Is what makes people want him to fail. You ARE the circus.

It's called reality man...

Don't you realize that the guy with the name Peyton Manning is NO LONGER "Peyton Manning"?

The same way Michael Jordan is no longer "Michael Jordan"

Hell.. even the real Peyton wasn't dominant.. what do you expect now? In an era where athleticism is so important... and Peyton never had any anyway...

Look how few older Qbs are even in the NFL.. and Peyton is the oldest and least athletic of them all...

Archer81
01-23-2013, 07:54 PM
This argument is fascinating. Fortunately for all of us it has never happened before.


:Broncos:

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 07:55 PM
Tebow was inactive due to injury for at least one game in the 2012 season, no?

Yeah but he was being used in a stupid fashion.. the Jets weren't even letting him pass the ball. They were setting him up to fail just like the Broncos were. They were trying to take pressure off Sanchez... I think they only planned to really use Tebow if Sanchez was injured or lost the team like he almost did the season before.

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 07:56 PM
What? You lost me now. You insinuated Kaep didnt benefit by being in the league a full year before he started. I'm saying he did. I Must've misunderstood your post.

I didn't say you couldn't benefit. But you don't become a vet from the bench. If you're in an excellent program with good coaching then yes that can help too.

But what part of getting coached up by McDumb and McDumber then watching Kyle Orton **** beds is going to lead a raw kid to progress?

BroncsCheer
01-23-2013, 07:57 PM
Well played, Rev

9/10

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 07:58 PM
This argument is fascinating. Fortunately for all of us it has never happened before.


:Broncos:

And yet still Elway is employed...

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 07:59 PM
And yet still Elway is employed...

give it time. you don't put together a team as lousy as the 2012 broncos and keep your job very long

Blueflame
01-23-2013, 08:03 PM
So... you're here touting the toughness and durability of a guy who was injured despite seeing extremely limited playing time and being used primarily on special teams.

Too amusing.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 08:03 PM
give it time. you don't put together a team as lousy as the 2012 broncos and keep your job very long

How many games did Peyton win the season before the Colts let him go... and how did they play without him?

And Peyton only has one championship from facing Rex Grossman...

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 08:08 PM
So... you're here touting the toughness and durability of a guy who was injured despite seeing extremely limited playing time and being used primarily on special teams.

Too amusing.

How many QBs could you even attempt to use this way? I don't think any... and as I said.. they weren't trying to make Tebow successful.. running him without letting him pass is like trying to get him hurt... even wildcat runningbacks are less predictable because they let them throw.. They weren't letting Tebow throw for a reason... because if he did everyone would want him to play. Same reason the Broncos wouldn't let Tebow play.

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 08:10 PM
. They weren't letting Tebow throw for a reason... because if he did everyone would want him to play.

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Blueflame
01-23-2013, 08:14 PM
Yeah, I guess there are all the touchdowns his favorite target (the ground) could have scored. :P

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 08:14 PM
They are Tebow wannabes.. Tebow-lites...

RGIII already may have ruined his career.. imagine if he played in the SEC.. he wouldn't have lasted there like Tebow. Manziel will find that out next season.

Kaep looks like a twig running around out there.

It's so funny to me how the NBA had a guy like Shaq and loved him dominating a supposed game of skill.. Yet here Tebow is in the NFL which is supposed to be a physical sport and people totally ignore his phsyical dominance and toughness... another example of people just being completely backwards...


Yet tebow busted his ribs 2 different times in how many games?

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-23-2013, 08:16 PM
How many QBs could you even attempt to use this way? I don't think any... and as I said.. they weren't trying to make Tebow successful.. running him without letting him pass is like trying to get him hurt... even wildcat runningbacks are less predictable because they let them throw.. They weren't letting Tebow throw for a reason... because if he did everyone would want him to play. Same reason the Broncos wouldn't let Tebow play.

Oh ok. You mean like the Detroit game. Or the buffalo game. Ya let him throw.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 08:20 PM
Yeah, I guess there are all the touchdowns his favorite target (the ground) could have scored. :P

Would you have rather had Peyton throw to the ground or to the Ravens like he did in your last game? Who is the smart one.. Peyton or Tebow?

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 08:22 PM
Oh ok. You mean like the Detroit game. Or the buffalo game. Ya let him throw.

Fox would only let Tebow throw when his stupid plan failed and his defense collapsed anyway...

By then the team had no confidence...

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 08:26 PM
Yet tebow busted his ribs 2 different times in how many games?

Yes... with 2 defensive coaches who are totally clueless about offense and wanted to see him fail.

Tebow was just brought in by the Jets as a diversion... They were way more tied in with Sanchez than the Broncos with Orton. They juts gave Sanchez a dump truck of money and they were convinced he could play better if they put more talent around him because he had been successful early on.

Also, Tebow is not a runningback.. he's learning a totally new position... and being misused horribly too.. to force him to do the wildcat without the threat of throwing is suicide.. teams can focus on you... even then though he is far more durable and tough than any other QB in the NFL...

Blueflame
01-23-2013, 08:28 PM
The only place Tebow can consistently hit the broad side of a barn from... is from inside the barn.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 08:30 PM
Before they changed his motion that wasn't the case... He set records for passing efficiency in the SEC...

And even changing his motion with no camp he outplayed Peyton in the playoffs...

Blueflame
01-23-2013, 08:32 PM
This isn't college football; it's the NFL. In the NFL, QBs are expected to be able to consistently throw the football. Tebow can't do that.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 08:34 PM
This isn't college football; it's the NFL. In the NFL, QBs are expected to be able to consistently throw the football. Tebow can't do that.

Then how did Tebow beat arguably the best defense in the NFL in a playoff game without turning the ball over?

What you are saying doesn't add up..

Tebow did this on a bad team too... all the Broncos weaknesses were on full display in their last game. And this team was constructed better than last seasons...

McDman
01-23-2013, 08:39 PM
Rev, you son of a bitch. You had to start this.

Blueflame
01-23-2013, 08:41 PM
I've heard before how awful our (2011) WRs and O-line were... yet the same guys seemed to do pretty well in 2012 with just one significant change of starter.... couple of 'em are even going to the Pro Bowl.

Eldorado
01-23-2013, 08:44 PM
So, uhh.....


We've all figured out that Macgruder is TheRev, Right?

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Raaaiiight!??

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 08:52 PM
I've heard before how awful our (2011) WRs and O-line were... yet the same guys seemed to do pretty well in 2012 with just one significant change of starter.... couple of 'em are even going to the Pro Bowl.

They were a year better.. we forget last season they had no camp.. they moved all the vets and so they could bring in vets for the QB they really wanted this season.

If the Oline was decent Peyton wouldn't be dinking and dunking constantly.

Your team barely beat Quinn on the worst team ever this last season. To do that with a better D and a full season of camp etc... it's worse than anything Tebow ever did honestly.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 08:53 PM
Then how did Tebow beat arguably the best defense in the NFL in a playoff game without turning the ball over?

What you are saying doesn't add up..

Tebow did this on a bad team too... all the Broncos weaknesses were on full display in their last game. And this team was constructed better than last seasons...

AGAIN

They were basically in cover zero the entire game, and yes, that play in OT. Do you know what that means? NO safety help. And when they were in cover one, Polamalu cheated up quite a bit. You think Pitt plays that against EVERYONE? It was a DUMB decision on their part. I dont know why they just didnt do what everyone else did against tebow.

I cant believe youre comparing tim tebow to one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game.

Inkana7
01-23-2013, 08:55 PM
Night y'all
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Blueflame
01-23-2013, 08:59 PM
AGAIN

They were basically in cover zero the entire game, and yes, that play in OT. Do you know what that means? NO safety help. And when they were in cover one, Polamalu cheated up quite a bit. You think Pitt plays that against EVERYONE? It was a DUMB decision on their part. I dont know why they just didnt do what everyone else did against tebow.

I cant believe youre comparing tim tebow to one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game.

It was unprecedented disrespect for our passing game and ultimately it bit the Steelers in the butt. No way did they expect McCoy to call a pass play on first down... and no way did they expect Tebow to throw the ball close enough to Thomas for him to be able to catch it.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 09:00 PM
AGAIN

They were basically in cover zero the entire game, and yes, that play in OT. Do you know what that means? NO safety help. And when they were in cover one, Polamalu cheated up quite a bit. You think Pitt plays that against EVERYONE? It was a DUMB decision on their part. I dont know why they just didnt do what everyone else did against tebow.

I cant believe youre comparing tim tebow to one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game.

They were doing that because of Tebow's stellar athleticism... why else would they do that?

No Qb has ever been able to run between the tackles like Tebow.. that's why they have to do it..

And Peyton isn't "Peyton" anymore... and even the real Peyton wasn't dominant...

Tebow makes the run game dominant which IS dominant..a rookie bIgben beat Peyton... Tebow is definitely comparable to Bigben.. I think he's far better actually.. and Bigben has more rings than Peyton..

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 09:02 PM
They were doing that because of Tebow's stellar athleticism... why else would they do that?

No Qb has ever been able to run between the tackles like Tebow.. that's why they have to do it..

And Peyton isn't "Peyton" anymore... and even the real Peyton wasn't dominant...

Tebow makes the run game dominant which IS dominant..a rookie bIgben beat Peyton... Tebow is definitely comparable to Bigben.. I think he's far better actually.. and Bigben has more rings than Peyton..

I used to think you were just dumb.

But after this comment, youre obviously just a troll

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 09:04 PM
It was unprecedented disrespect for our passing game and ultimately it bit the Steelers in the butt. No way did they expect McCoy to call a pass play on first down... and no way did they expect Tebow to throw the ball close enough to Thomas for him to be able to catch it.

It wasn't disrespecting the passing game.. it was respecting the dominant run game Tebow created...

Something Peyton can't provide...

This is why you have to pick your poison.. they did the same think with Kaepernick.. they let him run for 180 yards.. Kaep and gore put up 20 more yards than Tebow and McGahee did on the Raiders.

So this last game what did they do then? dared Kaep to pass.. he only runs 20 yards... Tebow had like 50 yards versus the Steelers.. same exact thing.. pick your poison. Kaep has a much better team around him though.. What Tebow did was more impressive. Even Alex Smith won on that team..

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 09:06 PM
I used to think you were just dumb.

But after this comment, youre obviously just a troll

You have convinced yourself the Steelers don't know how to play D and I am the dumb troll? LMAO

It is truly incredible how powerful cognitive dissonance is...

Blueflame
01-23-2013, 09:09 PM
I used to think you were just dumb.

But after this comment, youre obviously just a troll

Anyone who genuinely believes the Steelers' recent SB wins are attributable to Roethlisberger.... and not their defense.... knows nothing about football.

And MacGruder... any team that can run but cannot consistently pass (a Tebow team)... is one-dimensional. One-dimensional is not a good thing.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 09:15 PM
Anyone who genuinely believes the Steelers' recent SB wins are attributable to Roethlisberger.... and not their defense.... knows nothing about football.

Yet you claim this defense didn't know how to defend Tebow.. so which is it? Don't you realize you are totally contradicting yourself here in order to find some excuse to explain away Tebow beating such a great defense? You also don't know that Peyton is better than Bigben.. that's pure speculation that could very easily be wrong.

And MacGruder... any team that can run but cannot consistently pass (a Tebow team)... is one-dimensional. One-dimensional is not a good thing.

You can't run if you can't pass.. that is what you are ignoring.. if what you were saying was possible teams could put better runners on horrible teams even though they couldn't pass and be more successful. This has never happened.. so your logic is completely non existent.''

One dimensional teams don't go to the playoffs and beat the Steelers... It's Peyton that has proven to be one dimensional... he can pass but has no athleticism.. Tebow's passing is far greater than Peyton's athleticism... we know that much... Peyton is the definition of one dimensional. And that dimension doesn't win in the playoffs.

ChrisToker
01-23-2013, 09:16 PM
"regardless of how they scored them"... LOL

How many points did Peyton score..... for the other team?

Tebow made the Broncos successful in spite of their weaknesses... he made them the number one rushing team in the NFL. That is what wins in the post season.

Peyton's style has been shown to fail in the post season. Peyton won his 4th playoff game Tebow won his first..

Tebow was even a rookie essentially! And was being hamstrung by the Broncos organization.. still outperformed him.

Is this dip**** skip brainless? Jesus titty****ing Christ, I hate the Tebowners!!!

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 09:17 PM
Is this dip**** skip brainless? Jesus titty****ing Christ, I hate the Tebowners!!!

He's just trolling.

He desperately needs to get laid. A man, woman...whichever.

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 09:21 PM
AGAIN

They were basically in cover zero the entire game, and yes, that play in OT. Do you know what that means? NO safety help. And when they were in cover one, Polamalu cheated up quite a bit. You think Pitt plays that against EVERYONE? It was a DUMB decision on their part. I dont know why they just didnt do what everyone else did against tebow.

I cant believe youre comparing tim tebow to one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game.

Wrong. Tomlin said it was zone not Cover 0. Said it was something they commonly did vs wildcat style offenses.

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 09:25 PM
The only place Tebow can consistently hit the broad side of a barn from... is from inside the barn.

Yet he had more yards per attempt than Peyton Manning through 16 career starts. It can't possibly have been as bad as you like to paint it.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 09:26 PM
Yes... anyone who dares to disagree with the common consensus must be crazy or a troll.. it doesn't even matter if events completely support their claims... claims they made before the events even....

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 09:27 PM
Wrong. Tomlin said it was zone not Cover 0. Said it was something they commonly did vs wildcat style offenses.


The "without a safety" zone? GREAT ZONE!

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 09:27 PM
Yet he had more yards per attempt than Peyton Manning through 16 career starts. It can't possibly have been as bad as you like to paint it.

Oh God, now you too?

So Tim Tebow is better than Peyton Manning...did i get that straight?

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 09:33 PM
The "without a safety" zone? GREAT ZONE!

He called it an "inverted zone". Said they do it often against that style of offense. But who the Eff is Mike Tomlin? SonofLelo sez it was Cover 0 .

colorado jones
01-23-2013, 09:33 PM
The person I was arguing with said he couldn't read defenses.. that was my point.

Tebow never played in a NFL style offense so he was definitely a rookie in the NFL for all intents and purposes..

Excuses are like assholes.

You must have 1000 assholes.

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 09:36 PM
Oh God, now you too?

So Tim Tebow is better than Peyton Manning...did i get that straight?

Did those words come out of my mouth? No. I'm just wondering how someone so supposedly incapable of throwing a football could manage to gain more yards with every throw than Peyton Manning did in his first season starting. Its just as hyperbolic as anything McGruber posts.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 09:40 PM
Is Kaep or Flacco better than Peyton now?

DBroncos4life
01-23-2013, 09:41 PM
Oh God, now you too?

So Tim Tebow is better than Peyton Manning...did i get that straight?

I'm sure if you projected LT's passing stats over the 16 games he would be the best QB of all time. But in the real world LT is a RB just like Tebow.

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 09:48 PM
I'm sure if you projected LT's passing stats over the 16 games he would be the best QB of all time. But in the real world LT is a RB just like Tebow.

Yeah. Let's extrapolate one throw per year. Might as well call Elway out as a ****ty punter. LOL

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 09:48 PM
He called it an "inverted zone". Said they do it often against that style of offense. But who the Eff is Mike Tomlin? SonofLelo sez it was Cover 0 .

I don't know what else you would call a play with no safety help


Call it what you want, but it was stupid and had nothing to do with "tebows athleticism" and everything to do with their assumption that he couldn't throw a pass or they wouldn't call a pass play. It was a dumbass defense to play. And if he tells you they would do the same thing again, he's lying

Archer81
01-23-2013, 09:56 PM
And yet still Elway is employed...


Life has its little bonuses.



:Broncos:

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 09:59 PM
I don't know what else you would call a play with no safety help


Call it what you want, but it was stupid and had nothing to do with "tebows athleticism" and everything to do with their assumption that he couldn't throw a pass or they wouldn't call a pass play. It was a dumbass defense to play. And if he tells you they would do the same thing again, he's lying

Yeah totally.

"The responsibilities associated with defending their run gaps kind of dictate at times how you attack them," Tomlin said Monday at his news conference Monday at the Steelers training facility on the South Side. "Obviously, they made some plays on us. In hindsight, you analyze with a fine-tooth comb some of the things you did. But I think really your options are limited in terms of how you attack them because of the run gap responsibilities."

Tomlin said it was not a foreign concept for the Steelers to place man-to-man responsibilities on their corners in late-game situations without help from safeties.

"We had done it in several instances leading up to that point," Tomlin said. "It wasn't zero [coverage]. It was a zone coverage that was inverted so the safeties could fit in the run box. So it was an inverted zone coverage where the safeties were close to the line of scrimmage so they could play alley responsibilities in terms of the run game, and they hit a nice play-action on us."

Was that too high risk?

"Not really," he said. "We've done that and done it quite a bit, particularly against wildcat and wildcat type of attacks and plays."

Who does this Tomlin guy think he is with his wins and his rings. Didn't he hear Lelo say that Tebow's athleticism wasn't a factor?

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 10:06 PM
I don't know what else you would call a play with no safety help


Call it what you want, but it was stupid and had nothing to do with "tebows athleticism" and everything to do with their assumption that he couldn't throw a pass or they wouldn't call a pass play. It was a dumbass defense to play. And if he tells you they would do the same thing again, he's lying

So NFL people are stupid when Tebow does well but it's not their fault when Tebow fails?

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 10:12 PM
I don't know what else you would call a play with no safety help


Call it what you want, but it was stupid and had nothing to do with "tebows athleticism" and everything to do with their assumption that he couldn't throw a pass or they wouldn't call a pass play. It was a dumbass defense to play. And if he tells you they would do the same thing again, he's lying

How do you think Tebow dominated SEC defenses like no one in history... they were in the same kind of defensive dilemma...

Tebow has freakish abilities no one else in football has... not even Cam... The Pats overcame it because they happened to have the personnel and Fox played right into their hands.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 10:15 PM
Yeah totally.



Who does this Tomlin guy think he is with his wins and his rings. Didn't he hear Lelo say that Tebow's athleticism wasn't a factor?

Not really? Well when you give up an 80 yard touchdown on a simple post route because you had no help over the top, AND SHOWED THIS AT THE LOS...IN OVERTIME...IN THE PLAYOFFS, YOU ****ED UP.

I don't care how much more qualified he is than me, that was a DUMB decision and has EVERYTHING TO DO with the fact that they didnt think he could complete a pass. RG3, Cam, Kaep, all have Tebow's athleticism, and then some, always have the read option at their disposal and I guarantee you they never face defenses like that all game long.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 10:17 PM
Yeah totally.



Who does this Tomlin guy think he is with his wins and his rings. Didn't he hear Lelo say that Tebow's athleticism wasn't a factor?

And yes, that Tomlin guy with his rings and wins let a lefty quarterback who can't throw for **** put up 300 yards against him.

Next year, said lefty is probably out of the NFL.

GREAT GAME PLAN MIKE!

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 10:23 PM
And yes, that Tomlin guy with his rings and wins let a lefty quarterback who can't throw for **** put up 300 yards against him.

Next year, said lefty is probably out of the NFL.

GREAT GAME PLAN MIKE!

It was either that or let Tebow and McGahee run for 300 yards.. The only way to match the threat is to get your own running QB... why do you think so many are doing just that?

SonOfLe-loLang
01-23-2013, 10:28 PM
It was either that or let Tebow and McGahee run for 300 yards.. The only way to match the threat is to get your own running QB... why do you think so many are doing just that?

yeah, because the broncos offense was such a powerhouse last season.

You're exhausting, and a ****ing fool if you believe any of the bull**** you spew.

But i assume you actually don't and are just a troll with nothing better to do and you get off on people arguing with you because you are a sad, sad, sad man

www.eharmony.com Go find a girl.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 10:29 PM
Not really? Well when you give up an 80 yard touchdown on a simple post route because you had no help over the top, AND SHOWED THIS AT THE LOS...IN OVERTIME...IN THE PLAYOFFS, YOU ****ED UP.

I don't care how much more qualified he is than me, that was a DUMB decision and has EVERYTHING TO DO with the fact that they didnt think he could complete a pass. RG3, Cam, Kaep, all have Tebow's athleticism, and then some, always have the read option at their disposal and I guarantee you they never face defenses like that all game long.

None of those guys can run between the tackles like Tebow.. totally different threat... deadlier threat. Tebow can get 1st downs at will. That is dominance.. the issue is that offensive coaches don't know how to build around it either it's totally different... and this is why defenses struggle so much too. Tebow is also an incredibly underrated deep passer.. watch his college highlights. If you can protect him there is no reason he can't keep doing that...

One pass Rex let Tebow throw was a deep ball and he nailed it.. hit the receiver right in the face mask and he dropped it...

BroncoBeavis
01-23-2013, 10:31 PM
And yes, that Tomlin guy with his rings and wins let a lefty quarterback who can't throw for **** put up 300 yards against him.

Next year, said lefty is probably out of the NFL.

GREAT GAME PLAN MIKE!

Awesome. Right back to Teebsuxfrospyros. Its circular as all get out but there's no arguing with it.

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 10:33 PM
yeah, because the broncos offense was such a powerhouse last season.

You're exhausting, and a ****ing fool if you believe any of the bull**** you spew.

But i assume you actually don't and are just a troll with nothing better to do and you get off on people arguing with you because you are a sad, sad, sad man

www.eharmony.com Go find a girl.

Do you know that Tebow put up the exact same numbers Del Homme did to the superbowl all season? It's Fox's style... he sacrifices offense to protect and help his D. I think it is much harder to do what Tebow did in Fox's offense than it is to play in a conventional offense.. I think Cam would be dead meat in Fox's O.. but it is why Tebow is so underrated now.. Peyton looked terrible in it too.. but Fox had a better D with Del Rio which allowed them to open the offense.. more experienced receivers too.

theAPAOps5
01-23-2013, 10:36 PM
You're projecting

Scarlet Letter

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 10:52 PM
You guys want to see the Tim Tebow story? Watch this - Tebow = Yeager

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsvouGfVTzM

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 11:04 PM
You guys want to see the Tim Tebow story? Watch this - Tebow = Yeager

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsvouGfVTzM

Archer81
01-23-2013, 11:08 PM
http://tinyurl.com/ar7wst6


:Broncos:

DenverBrit
01-23-2013, 11:27 PM
That is pure BS.. how do you know he can't read defenses? That is pure speculation. To suggest that the Steelers don't know how to defend Tebow is just complete stupidity. If your argument hinges on that YOU are crazy not I... once again you follow the mindless media who have been shown to be full of BS.

If Tebow couldn't read D then how did he make the playoffs in the first place.. what you are saying makes ZERO sense..



Yes... judge him on meaningless passer rating.. You also forget the Broncos had Del Rio... Tebow did not.. Tebow couldn't even play aggressively on offense for this reason because whenever they did the D collapsed.



You mean like McGahee fumbling the ball on a drive that could have ended the game..




Tebow didn't improve or Fox didn't improve? Fox almost ruined Peyton before Peyton started running his own offense.. the success Tebow had last season was when he called his own plays too.. but they wouldn't let him do it because the D stunk and the more they scored the more the D collapsed.

If you want to see Tebow improve you need to let him play.. just like Carolina let Cam play... they let him flush 2 seasons... Tebow has already shown more of an upside than Cam.

As a missionary??

MacGruder
01-23-2013, 11:43 PM
As a QB who will win games... Cam's team fell into the Elway trap too... they thought "if that scrub Tebow could get that far with the crappy Broncos team we are definitely going to win the Superbowl"

Then it turned out everyone was wrong and Tebow was carrying them more than Cam ever could. Cam wouldn't last one game under Fox... He'd be an instant basket case. Even Peyton almost didn't make it through. After that playoff game Peyton might be ready to hang em up.

myMind
01-23-2013, 11:46 PM
Rev = Mac. Got it.

But which identity is Moridin?

crawdad
01-24-2013, 03:48 AM
Did you guys know? If you rinse your razor in cold water, you get a closer shave!

crawdad
01-24-2013, 03:49 AM
Doesn't work as well on your scrotum, though!

TheReverend
01-24-2013, 04:43 AM
But which identity is Moridin?

Halfway through Memory of Light right now.

2KBack
01-24-2013, 06:06 AM
Do you know that Tebow put up the exact same numbers Del Homme did to the superbowl all season? It's Fox's style... he sacrifices offense to protect and help his D. I think it is much harder to do what Tebow did in Fox's offense than it is to play in a conventional offense.. I think Cam would be dead meat in Fox's O.. but it is why Tebow is so underrated now.. Peyton looked terrible in it too.. but Fox had a better D with Del Rio which allowed them to open the offense.. more experienced receivers too.

You posted this lie yesterday. Delhomme completed 12% more of his passes, averaged 75 more passing yards per game, and had a Passer rating 8 points higher.

Requiem
01-24-2013, 06:25 AM
Saddest thing about it is that MacGruder is a real person.

Boobs McGee
01-24-2013, 06:38 AM
Saddest thing about it is that MacGruder is a real person.

He's GOTTA be Tebow's brother, right?

DenverBrit
01-24-2013, 07:52 AM
MacGruder...............

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/30141001.jpg

Drunken.Broncoholic
01-24-2013, 07:55 AM
You posted this lie yesterday. Delhomme completed 12% more of his passes, averaged 75 more passing yards per game, and had a Passer rating 8 points higher.

That's all Gruder can do is make up lies. Without lies his posts would just be blank.

Flex Gunmetal
01-24-2013, 09:33 AM
Do you know that Tebow put up the exact same numbers Del Homme did to the superbowl all season? It's Fox's style... he sacrifices offense to protect and help his D. I think it is much harder to do what Tebow did in Fox's offense than it is to play in a conventional offense.. I think Cam would be dead meat in Fox's O.. but it is why Tebow is so underrated now.. Peyton looked terrible in it too.. but Fox had a better D with Del Rio which allowed them to open the offense.. more experienced receivers too.

I feel sorry for your parents. If you had any honor you would fall upon your sword like an adult.

broncocalijohn
01-24-2013, 10:03 AM
I feel sorry for your parents. If you had any honor you would fall upon your sword like an adult.

T0 keep away from family smack, I am going to say that MacGruder was put in an orphanage as an infant and anytime he would have been adopted, he opended up his big mouth. By the time he was 18 and shown the door, the Nuns were more jibulant then what you saw when Jack Tripper picked up Problem Child to be his son.

http://www.anyclip.com/movies/problem-child/zO9xb2utthnn7/

OABB
01-24-2013, 11:19 AM
The rev is gold. Pure.

MacGruder
01-24-2013, 12:03 PM
You posted this lie yesterday. Delhomme completed 12% more of his passes, averaged 75 more passing yards per game, and had a Passer rating 8 points higher.

Yes... Tebow had more running yards to Del Homme's passing yards.. which negates completion percentage. And I wasn't the one who pointed it out initially... someone on the NFL channel did.

The point remains.. it's Fox's system that produces these numbers PLUS Tebow's efficient but ugly style... not efficient as a passer but efficient as a QB. Fox's style was even more extreme with Tebow.

Kaylore
01-24-2013, 12:08 PM
I'm adding this because thus far we've managed to squeeze out one post worth reading per page.

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MacGruder
01-24-2013, 12:17 PM
I feel sorry for your parents. If you had any honor you would fall upon your sword like an adult.

I am sure your Bronco parents are proud you are a good little soldier and drink the Elway kool-aid... is that how this all happens? It's like some kind of generational indoctrination?

TheReverend
01-24-2013, 12:17 PM
The rev is fools gold--like Peyton Manning. Pure.

Fixed

2KBack
01-24-2013, 12:23 PM
Yes... Tebow had more running yards to Del Homme's passing yards.. which negates completion percentage. And I wasn't the one who pointed it out initially... someone on the NFL channel did.

The point remains.. it's Fox's system that produces these numbers PLUS Tebow's efficient but ugly style... not efficient as a passer but efficient as a QB. Fox's style was even more extreme with Tebow.

How stupid are you? Running doesn't negate passing percentage, rushing the ball isn't recorded as a passing attempt whack job. You could try to say it negates the difference in pure yardage production, but that still puts Tebow 25 yards per game behind Jake.

Keep digging....maybe eventually your ass will produce a valid point. I doubt it though. You are just here for the attention...apparently the Jets forums were smart enough to get rid of you and you've come slithering back here to troll.

Kaylore
01-24-2013, 12:23 PM
MacGruder has 5345 posts in just one year.

orangeatheist
01-24-2013, 12:29 PM
MacGruder has 5345 posts in just one year.

What else are you going to do as a youth pastor during the day when your congregation is in school?

MacGruder
01-24-2013, 12:33 PM
How stupid are you? Running doesn't negate passing percentage, rushing the ball isn't recorded as a passing attempt whack job. You could try to say it negates the difference in pure yardage production, but that still puts Tebow 25 yards per game behind Jake.

Keep digging....maybe eventually your ass will produce a valid point. I doubt it though. You are just here for the attention...apparently the Jets forums were smart enough to get rid of you and you've come slithering back here to troll.

It was to the point where McGahee and Moreno were both injured... it wasn't at the end of the season this stat was brought up. The losing streak at the end due to injury probably changed this.. the point is an NFL channel analyst was the one who pointed it out - not I.

And of course running changes things. If you are running to get first downs rather than throwing it definitely negates passing percentage.. so do things like yards per attempt etc.

The point is Fox's system put up low numbers for Del Homme yet he went to the superbowl. It's the system...

MacGruder
01-24-2013, 12:37 PM
Have you guys watched The Right Stuff yet?

Peyton Manning = Gus Grissom.. lol

"The hatch just blew!"

"He screwed the pooch"

Tombstone RJ
01-24-2013, 12:39 PM
It was to the point where McGahee and Moreno were both injured... it wasn't at the end of the season this stat was brought up. The losing streak at the end due to injury probably changed this.. the point is an NFL channel analyst was the one who pointed it out - not I.

And of course running changes things. If you are running to get first downs rather than throwing it definitely negates passing percentage.. so do things like yards per attempt etc.

The point is Fox's system put up low numbers for Del Homme yet he went to the superbowl. It's the system...

Fox's system was dismantled because TT couldn't run it. Herpy derp derp!

BroncoBeavis
01-24-2013, 12:41 PM
Fox's system was dismantled because TT couldn't run it. Herpy derp derp!

Fox has an offensive system? Did I miss something? :)

Tombstone RJ
01-24-2013, 12:43 PM
Fox has an offensive system? Did I miss something? :)

Yes, it's the one TT couldn't run. It's the one that was shelved and replaced with the spread offense TT could manage. It's the one that got Jake Delhomme to the SB and within 3 points of a SB win. Not sure what McGrubber's point is other than he has no point.

MacGruder
01-24-2013, 12:43 PM
Fox's system was dismantled because TT couldn't run it. Herpy derp derp!

No it wasn't... they just added a bit of option run game. The run game fits right in with Fox's system. Fox wouldn't even let Tebow run but in certain situations.. very limited.

Which is why he was a sitting duck with the Pats.

2KBack
01-24-2013, 12:46 PM
It was to the point where McGahee and Moreno were both injured... it wasn't at the end of the season this stat was brought up. The losing streak at the end due to injury probably changed this.. the point is an NFL channel analyst was the one who pointed it out - not I.

And of course running changes things. If you are running to get first downs rather than throwing it definitely negates passing percentage.. so do things like yards per attempt etc.

The point is Fox's system put up low numbers for Del Homme yet he went to the superbowl. It's the system...

You don't have a goddamn point.

I used ot hink you were crazy...now I think you are just dumb.

the only passing statistic affected by running the ball is passing attempts....that's it. Completion % is based on how often the ball you passed is caught by another member of the team. If you run....there is no attempt. If there is no attempt...there is no catch/incompletion. Without those two things, there can be no Passing %. The fact that he has such a low% spits in the face of your claim he is the efficient QB. 63% of the time he threw the ball....something negative happened.


You are dumb

http://www.troll.me/images/ancient-aliens-guy/everyone-is-crazy-except-me.jpg

Tombstone RJ
01-24-2013, 12:48 PM
No it wasn't... they just added a bit of option run game. The run game fits right in with Fox's system. Fox wouldn't even let Tebow run but in certain situations.. very limited.

Which is why he was a sitting duck with the Pats.

herpy derp! "they just added a bit of the run option" herpy derp!

Boobs McGee
01-24-2013, 12:49 PM
I'm adding this because thus far we've managed to squeeze out one post worth reading per page.

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Relevant because I searched "boob high socks" and it was on the first page. And boobs.

Tombstone RJ
01-24-2013, 12:49 PM
that's all it was, just a smidge of the old spread option, nothing much really. Just a slight tweaking of the old pro style offense, that's all it was!