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LetsGoBroncos
01-11-2013, 01:57 PM
I think this is the case. If so that is another advantage for us.

ludo21
01-11-2013, 02:01 PM
the advantage for us is that he sucks

B-Large
01-11-2013, 02:05 PM
the advantage for us is that he sucks

Yeah, but you have to admit he throw beautiful spirals to Chris Harris

socalorado
01-11-2013, 02:10 PM
http://www.trbimg.com/img-50d0bb4f/turbine/bal-sports-blitz-tale-of-the-tape-20121218-001/600

TonyR
01-11-2013, 02:11 PM
He threw some pretty good jump balls to Anquan Boldin last week...

Hulamau
01-11-2013, 02:40 PM
He threw some pretty good jump balls to Anquan Boldin last week...

Yes indeed, but that was against Cassius 'used to be better when playing for us even though he was the last CB on our depth chart and thus traded to Indy to be come their #1 CB' Vaughn!

Cassius never once looked back or made a play on any of those balls. Harris would have picked a couple of those High loopers or at least insured an incomplete further tormenting Boldin who he held to ZERO catches in the first game against us in their house, and grabbed that 98 yard Pick 6 on Boldin as well

Look for another one of those Pick 6 moments on Flake-O tomorrow when the cold starts sinking in and the air gets much too thin to think straight after he's been decked a number of times and constantly chased all over Mile High by Von-Doom .. he'll be ripe to throw up another one of those when trying to come from behind again and either Harris, Champ or maybe Carter will be off to the races again.(

Indy's incompetent pass defense should have grabbed two pick 6s last week that Frozen-Joe had gift wrapped for them but butterfingered them away.

Kaylore
01-11-2013, 03:07 PM
He tends to overthrow his receivers. The ball carries in Denver a bit. Also, Flacco is an incredible boob.

bombay
01-11-2013, 03:17 PM
The last time I remember Baltimore being here the Broncos won 12-10. Kyle Boller was mvp with his 4 picks.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-11-2013, 03:35 PM
Well, Bill Simmons picked the Ravens to win! I think this is more wishful thinking on his part, but, and I know im a broken record, I'm seriously, one hundred percent worried about the weather.

If this game were played in a vacuum or dome, whatever, i dont think the Ravens would stand a chance. Peyton would do his thing. But we have a 36 year old QB coming off 4 neck surgeries (and one who has admitted that he needs the glove because his grip is not as good in the cold) who relies on pinpoint accuracy to move the Broncos.

When the weather is good, or even cold (KC game), he's proven he can do this. But sub-20 degree temps? He's going to have more trouble gripping the ball, i dont see how this is avoidable. And if he's off a little, this will be detrimental to the Broncos.

I'm worried. Tell me I'm wrong, give me good reasons to be wrong, please tell me I'm wrong.

ludo21
01-11-2013, 03:58 PM
he has been practicing with a glove for weeks in GAMES.. I think he only has 1 pick Saturday, and 2 TD's.. good guys win

crush17
01-11-2013, 04:01 PM
http://d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net/images/cm-39862-050cf99f211659.jpeg

Tombstone RJ
01-11-2013, 04:26 PM
Well, Bill Simmons picked the Ravens to win! I think this is more wishful thinking on his part, but, and I know im a broken record, I'm seriously, one hundred percent worried about the weather.

If this game were played in a vacuum or dome, whatever, i dont think the Ravens would stand a chance. Peyton would do his thing. But we have a 36 year old QB coming off 4 neck surgeries (and one who has admitted that he needs the glove because his grip is not as good in the cold) who relies on pinpoint accuracy to move the Broncos.

When the weather is good, or even cold (KC game), he's proven he can do this. But sub-20 degree temps? He's going to have more trouble gripping the ball, i dont see how this is avoidable. And if he's off a little, this will be detrimental to the Broncos.

I'm worried. Tell me I'm wrong, give me good reasons to be wrong, please tell me I'm wrong.

weather affects both teams equally. Broncos can run the ball too.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-11-2013, 04:33 PM
weather affects both teams equally. Broncos can run the ball too.

Did you read what i wrote above?

Tombstone RJ
01-11-2013, 04:41 PM
Did you read what i wrote above?

no, I read your mind.

Bronco X
01-11-2013, 04:42 PM
I'm worried. Tell me I'm wrong, give me good reasons to be wrong, please tell me I'm wrong.

The elements will be better tomorrow than they were during that game about 10 years ago (2002 I think) in Denver when Manning led the Colts on two late field goal drives to win the game... but honestly if a Bill Simmons prediction is causing you more worry I'm not sure I can help.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-11-2013, 04:43 PM
no, I read your mind.

Might wanna try reading it again then

SonOfLe-loLang
01-11-2013, 04:45 PM
The elements will be better tomorrow than they were during that game about 10 years ago (2002 I think) in Denver when Manning led the Colts on two late field goal drives to win the game... but honestly if a Bill Simmons prediction is causing you more worry I'm not sure I can help.

Simmons prediction isnt causing me worry. He just happened to mention the same thing ive been mentioning all week, so it was fresh in my mind again. It doesnt concern me what Peyton did in 2002. He wasnt coming off neck surgery in 2002. His past playoff record in the cold is a dumb argument, I agree. Too small a sample size, and it ignores every other factor that went into it. But he's already admitted to having less of a grip on the ball due to the cold. And its gonna be WAY COLD tomorrow.

R8R H8R
01-11-2013, 04:58 PM
Simmons prediction isnt causing me worry. He just happened to mention the same thing ive been mentioning all week, so it was fresh in my mind again. It doesnt concern me what Peyton did in 2002. He wasnt coming off neck surgery in 2002. His past playoff record in the cold is a dumb argument, I agree. Too small a sample size, and it ignores every other factor that went into it. But he's already admitted to having less of a grip on the ball due to the cold. And its gonna be WAY COLD tomorrow.

Not worried at all. PM has already anticipated the cold weather thing by wearing the gloves the past 2 weeks to get used to them. If he just now came out with them, I might be worried, but that is not the case. He (and all Broncos) have been preparing for all aspects of the playoffs for a few weeks now.

cmhargrove
01-11-2013, 05:03 PM
Well, Bill Simmons picked the Ravens to win! I think this is more wishful thinking on his part, but, and I know im a broken record, I'm seriously, one hundred percent worried about the weather.

If this game were played in a vacuum or dome, whatever, i dont think the Ravens would stand a chance. Peyton would do his thing. But we have a 36 year old QB coming off 4 neck surgeries (and one who has admitted that he needs the glove because his grip is not as good in the cold) who relies on pinpoint accuracy to move the Broncos.

When the weather is good, or even cold (KC game), he's proven he can do this. But sub-20 degree temps? He's going to have more trouble gripping the ball, i dont see how this is avoidable. And if he's off a little, this will be detrimental to the Broncos.

I'm worried. Tell me I'm wrong, give me good reasons to be wrong, please tell me I'm wrong.

You're wrong.

Many of the deadliest plays in our arsenal are short and medium range passes anyway. Peyton has been practicing with the glove, and his game doesn't generally depend on flinging bullets all over the field, his passes are about finesse and timing. Aka - easy to catch.

We are the same team that beat the **** out of the Ravens a few weeks ago, and we are about to do it again. Tomorrow will be awesome as we choke on purple tears.

Cito Pelon
01-11-2013, 05:14 PM
Well, Bill Simmons picked the Ravens to win! I think this is more wishful thinking on his part, but, and I know im a broken record, I'm seriously, one hundred percent worried about the weather.

If this game were played in a vacuum or dome, whatever, i dont think the Ravens would stand a chance. Peyton would do his thing. But we have a 36 year old QB coming off 4 neck surgeries (and one who has admitted that he needs the glove because his grip is not as good in the cold) who relies on pinpoint accuracy to move the Broncos.

When the weather is good, or even cold (KC game), he's proven he can do this. But sub-20 degree temps? He's going to have more trouble gripping the ball, i dont see how this is avoidable. And if he's off a little, this will be detrimental to the Broncos.

I'm worried. Tell me I'm wrong, give me good reasons to be wrong, please tell me I'm wrong.

It's not just the cold, it's the lack of humidity also.

Tombstone RJ
01-11-2013, 05:35 PM
Might wanna try reading it again then

no thanks, I answered your question. You might wanna try understanding the answer I provided. But since you are can't understand, I'll essplane. The weather will also affect Flacco. That is, yes, Manning may be affected by the weather and it may hamper the throwing game, but this same problem will also affect Flacco who is already a terrible QB on the road. Ergo, the playing field is level, with quite possibly an advantage to the Broncos. Also, the Broncos have been very effective running the ball so should Manning struggle passing the ball, the Broncos can always run the ball a little more. So, I just provided you with two reasons why you are wrong in your assumption that this cold weather will somehow benefit the Ravens by hampering Manning's ability to throw the ball.

Plus, other posters keep handing you your hat on this issue.

Cito Pelon
01-11-2013, 05:38 PM
Dude on the Weather Channel said he heard on Twitter the Ravens team bus slid off the road on their way to the hotel.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-11-2013, 05:46 PM
no thanks, I answered your question. You might wanna try understanding the answer I provided. But since you are can't understand, I'll essplane. The weather will also affect Flacco. That is, yes, Manning may be affected by the weather and it may hamper the throwing game, but this same problem will also affect Flacco who is already a terrible QB on the road. Ergo, the playing field is level, with quite possibly an advantage to the Broncos. Also, the Broncos have been very effective running the ball so should Manning struggle passing the ball, the Broncos can always run the ball a little more. So, I just provided you with two reasons why you are wrong in your assumption that this cold weather will somehow benefit the Ravens by hampering Manning's ability to throw the ball.

Plus, other posters keep handing you your hat on this issue.

AGAIN, the "level" playing field is what I'm worried about. I dont care that Flacco will have issues throwing the ball, he's ****. I AM concerned with the Broncos having to shift a game plan because Peyton can't throw as well. If Manning's ability to throw the ball is hampered, of course that's an advantage to the Ravens. I dont care how good the Broncos running game is. That's preposturous to suggest otherwise.

Tombstone RJ
01-11-2013, 05:52 PM
AGAIN, the "level" playing field is what I'm worried about. I dont care that Flacco will have issues throwing the ball, he's ****. I AM concerned with the Broncos having to shift a game plan because Peyton can't throw as well. If Manning's ability to throw the ball is hampered, of course that's an advantage to the Ravens. I dont care how good the Broncos running game is. That's preposturous to suggest otherwise.

Ok, so you are saying that a crappy passing game (Flacco) getting crappier isn't an issue (basically makes the Ravens 1 dimensional, no?) but a great passing game getting "maybe" affected by the weather and dropping Manning's completion percentage a few points is somehow a huge advantage to the Ravens?

rideco
01-11-2013, 05:53 PM
A raven player just tweeted a pic from the airport. We are already in their heads.

http://instagram.com/p/UXKN-uQhru/

enjolras
01-11-2013, 05:58 PM
It's supposed to be dry and sunny tomorrow. I'd worry if it was in the snow, but it won't be. Gripping the ball isn't difficult in 20 degree weather, gripping it in a blinding snowstorm is a different animal.

The weather is going to be fine, just cold. He'll carve them up just like usual.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-11-2013, 06:01 PM
Ok, so you are saying that a crappy passing game (Flacco) getting crappier isn't an issue (basically makes the Ravens 1 dimensional, no?) but a great passing game getting "maybe" affected by the weather and dropping Manning's completion percentage a few points is somehow a huge advantage to the Ravens?

No, im saying Flacco is crappy in general, and i dunno that the cold will make him crappier, though we have real reason to believe that Manning may struggle with it (he's the one who claimed his grip isnt what it once was.) Especially when his game is so reliant on his normal accuracy. If the Broncos have to switch their gameplan, then yes, its an advantage for the Ravens. I didnt say its a death knell to the Broncos, but lets just say I really hope Manning keeps that hand warm.

Tombstone RJ
01-11-2013, 06:12 PM
No, im saying Flacco is crappy in general, and i dunno that the cold will make him crappier, though we have real reason to believe that Manning may struggle with it (he's the one who claimed his grip isnt what it once was.) Especially when his game is so reliant on his normal accuracy. If the Broncos have to switch their gameplan, then yes, its an advantage for the Ravens. I didnt say its a death knell to the Broncos, but lets just say I really hope Manning keeps that hand warm.

fair enough, I just don't know how you can assume that the cold weather will only adversely affect Manning and not Flacco. So you are really double dipping on your assumption. 1. you are assuming Manning will be affected by the cold weather and 2. you are assuming that if there is cold weather it will not affect Flacco for whatever reason, giving the Ravens an edge.

I don't anticipate the Broncos changing their game plan unless Manning gets injured and can't throw the ball at all or he has to leave the game.

Bronco X
01-11-2013, 06:23 PM
Simmons prediction isnt causing me worry. He just happened to mention the same thing ive been mentioning all week, so it was fresh in my mind again. It doesnt concern me what Peyton did in 2002. He wasnt coming off neck surgery in 2002. His past playoff record in the cold is a dumb argument, I agree. Too small a sample size, and it ignores every other factor that went into it. But he's already admitted to having less of a grip on the ball due to the cold. And its gonna be WAY COLD tomorrow.

Peyton is better than he was in 2002. He's smarter, and his ability to adjust and adapt is better. The fact that he has had the season he has, the greatest statistical season for a QB in Bronco history and one of his personal best seasons, after being off a year, recovering from neck surgery, AND playing on a completely new team with new coaching and teammates, is a testimony to this. His accomplishments this season, and all he has overcome, have been nothing short of remarkable, and honestly I'm not sure you can fret that it's all coming unraveled because he can't handle 20 degree weather while truly understanding that.

TonyR
01-11-2013, 06:58 PM
Well, Bill Simmons picked the Ravens to win! I think this is more wishful thinking on his part, but...

Unfortunately, I'm with you. I'm always a nervous wreck about playoff games, and this column didn't help. More than just the part about the cold was this part:

In a vacuum, I think the Broncos are better than the Ravens something they proved a few weeks ago with their butt-kicking of the Ravens in Baltimore (even if the Ravens were missing Bernard Pierce and two defensive starters). But if you're picking a big road dog, you want to make sure they can block (they can) and make at least one big special teams play (and the Ravens have a great special teams). You want to make sure they're experienced, and that they won't be even remotely afraid, that they'll be almost irrationally confident that they can win the game (3-for-3 for the Ravens). You want to make sure they're well coached (yes for the Ravens), and that they have a quarterback who's won big games on the road before. (Say what you want about Flacco, but he's 6-4 in the playoffs and came within that Lee Evans strip of making the Super Bowl last year.) You want to make sure they can throw the ball downfield (they can) and that their big-play guys can make two big plays (yes for the Ravens with Ray Rice, Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin and even Bernard Pierce), and that they're on something of a mission (Ray Lewis's announcement clinched that). You want to make sure they can handle the January elements (no problem there). And if there's a dash of "Nobody Believes In Us!," even better (and there is). http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8835592/view/full/the-sports-guy-make-divisional-playoffs-picks

He clearly give the Ravens too much credit, while not giving the Broncos any. I know that. But it's hard to think rationally for me in pre-playoff game mode!

BroncoInSkinland
01-11-2013, 07:18 PM
I'm worried. Tell me I'm wrong, give me good reasons to be wrong, please tell me I'm wrong.

Because Mannings greatest strength as a QB is decision making, and Flaccos greatest weakness is decision making. Peyton will quickly discover how the weather is affecting his ability to throw and adapt, Flacco will not.

DBroncos4life
01-11-2013, 07:35 PM
Unfortunately, I'm with you. I'm always a nervous wreck about playoff games, and this column didn't help. More than just the part about the cold was this part:
In a vacuum, I think the Broncos are better than the Ravens something they proved a few weeks ago with their butt-kicking of the Ravens in Baltimore (even if the Ravens were missing Bernard Pierce and two defensive starters).
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8835592/view/full/the-sports-guy-make-divisional-playoffs-picks

He clearly give the Ravens too much credit, while not giving the Broncos any. I know that. But it's hard to think rationally for me in pre-playoff game mode!

Maybe you should take comfort in knowing that this guy doesn't know what he is talking about. Let me know how a guy that didn't play ended up with 5 carries for 20 yards.

Tombstone RJ
01-11-2013, 07:54 PM
isn't grantland the same website that poo-pooed the Manning signing and then waxed poetic about how bad the Broncos are gonna miss the Teebs? Full on retard type of crap.

Ambiguous
01-11-2013, 08:19 PM
isn't grantland the same website that poo-pooed the Manning signing and then waxed poetic about how bad the Broncos are gonna miss the Teebs? Full on retard type of crap.

Bill Barnwell predicted a swoon this year mostly based on our horrendous point differential last year, and Manning was yet to be proven. He's backed off it and is predicting the Broncos win handily tomorrow. FWIW he also predicted we beat the Steelers last year.

extralife
01-11-2013, 08:45 PM
Well, Bill Simmons picked the Ravens to win! I think this is more wishful thinking on his part, but, and I know im a broken record, I'm seriously, one hundred percent worried about the weather.

If this game were played in a vacuum or dome, whatever, i dont think the Ravens would stand a chance. Peyton would do his thing. But we have a 36 year old QB coming off 4 neck surgeries (and one who has admitted that he needs the glove because his grip is not as good in the cold) who relies on pinpoint accuracy to move the Broncos.

When the weather is good, or even cold (KC game), he's proven he can do this. But sub-20 degree temps? He's going to have more trouble gripping the ball, i dont see how this is avoidable. And if he's off a little, this will be detrimental to the Broncos.

I'm worried. Tell me I'm wrong, give me good reasons to be wrong, please tell me I'm wrong.

You and me both, man. I don't even want to think about it anymore.

TonyR
01-11-2013, 08:55 PM
Bill Barnwell predicted a swoon this year mostly based on our horrendous point differential last year, and Manning was yet to be proven. He's backed off it and is predicting the Broncos win handily tomorrow. FWIW he also predicted we beat the Steelers last year.

Yup, and he discussed it in the recent column linked below.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8831246/bill-barnwell-saturday-slate-nfl-playoff-games

TonyR
01-11-2013, 08:58 PM
isn't grantland the same website that...

It's also the site that put out this recent piece which you probably didn't bother to read because omg grantland sux!!!:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8828013/how-return-simplicity-peyton-manning-indy-offense-ignited-denver-broncos

Kaylore
01-11-2013, 10:00 PM
I'm worried. Tell me I'm wrong, give me good reasons to be wrong, please tell me I'm wrong.

Because cold won't affect Manning. It may affect the receivers and their footing, but then it will also affect the DB's. If we lost tomorrow, which I don't think we will, it will not be "because it was too cold."

And Manning's 1-3 cold weather playoff record were all road games.

Bronco Yoda
01-11-2013, 10:19 PM
The good thing for Flacco is that he's going to have the best O-line he's had all year after moved things around last week. The bad thing for him is that he already other throws half his throws. What do you think he's going to do in Denver.

BroncoMan4ever
01-11-2013, 10:34 PM
Well, Bill Simmons picked the Ravens to win! I think this is more wishful thinking on his part, but, and I know im a broken record, I'm seriously, one hundred percent worried about the weather.

If this game were played in a vacuum or dome, whatever, i dont think the Ravens would stand a chance. Peyton would do his thing. But we have a 36 year old QB coming off 4 neck surgeries (and one who has admitted that he needs the glove because his grip is not as good in the cold) who relies on pinpoint accuracy to move the Broncos.

When the weather is good, or even cold (KC game), he's proven he can do this. But sub-20 degree temps? He's going to have more trouble gripping the ball, i dont see how this is avoidable. And if he's off a little, this will be detrimental to the Broncos.

I'm worried. Tell me I'm wrong, give me good reasons to be wrong, please tell me I'm wrong.
He has used the glove for a few weeks, and to be honest his accuracy and touch have looked great. He has been in the league a long time, this isn't his first cold weather game

Tombstone RJ
01-11-2013, 10:38 PM
Bill Barnwell predicted a swoon this year mostly based on our horrendous point differential last year, and Manning was yet to be proven. He's backed off it and is predicting the Broncos win handily tomorrow. FWIW he also predicted we beat the Steelers last year.

I remember that now, isn't there a thread about that article, some kind of bs formula he had for justifying his opinion and we discussed it in a thread? I'd love to dig up that old thread, pretty sure I destroyed his analysis.

Tombstone RJ
01-11-2013, 10:39 PM
It's also the site that put out this recent piece which you probably didn't bother to read because omg grantland sux!!!:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8828013/how-return-simplicity-peyton-manning-indy-offense-ignited-denver-broncos

why should I read it when I have you to tell me how great it is?

Tombstone RJ
01-11-2013, 10:48 PM
Yup, and he discussed it in the recent column linked below.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8831246/bill-barnwell-saturday-slate-nfl-playoff-games

lol. I've said it before and by god, I'll say it again. Strength of schedule IS COMPLETE AND UTTER BS. There's too much parity in the NFL.

Now this tard is using this excuse to back off his preseason article? "Oh gee, the Broncos schedule didn't turn out to be nearly as hard as I had thought it was gonna be so maybe you'll give me a pass on being a tard?"

Nope. Still a tard.

KipCorrington25
01-12-2013, 12:23 AM
A raven player just tweeted a pic from the airport. We are already in their heads.

http://instagram.com/p/UXKN-uQhru/

Bluth corporation stair car!

Jetmeck
01-12-2013, 01:02 AM
He threw some pretty good jump balls to Anquan Boldin last week...


We got slightly better corners than Indy...just slightly.....lol

Broncoman13
01-12-2013, 08:27 AM
Why are so many people here missing the point that Son of Lelo is trying to make regarding Manning and the Cold??? Manning is wearing the glove b/c the cold aggravates the nerves and gives him less feeling in his hands. He can grip just fine, just doesn't have the sensation in his hands to tell him that. Yes, he has been wearing the glove for a few weeks now and has been doing fine. But there is some unknown here and it is justifiable that Son of Lelo would be concerned. I get it Lelo, I am concerned too. But I think we'll be fine and if Manning isn't effective, the Ravens Run D is not what the once were... We'll be okay!

razorwire77
01-12-2013, 08:35 AM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/joe-flacco-already-preparing-apology-to-ray-lewis,30861/

http://o.onionstatic.com/images/19/19198/original/700.jpg?4160

BroncoBeavis
01-12-2013, 08:44 AM
Why are so many people here missing the point that Son of Lelo is trying to make regarding Manning and the Cold??? Manning is wearing the glove b/c the cold aggravates the nerves and gives him less feeling in his hands. He can grip just fine, just doesn't have the sensation in his hands to tell him that. Yes, he has been wearing the glove for a few weeks now and has been doing fine. But there is some unknown here and it is justifiable that Son of Lelo would be concerned. I get it Lelo, I am concerned too. But I think we'll be fine and if Manning isn't effective, the Ravens Run D is not what the once were... We'll be okay!

I'd be more concerned if there was more moisture. That makes it tough to keep the hands warm.

razorwire77
01-12-2013, 09:02 AM
The pundits seem to be missing another major element to this game, which is Denver will have the best defensive player on the field today. Hard to imagine that a guy with the 3rd most sacks in NFL history through his first two years, a guy that crushed the franchise record with 18.5 sacks and has six forced fumbles and a pick six is hardly being talked about.

This is the game that Von snatches the torch from Ray's Ray's torn triceps.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-12-2013, 09:09 AM
Well, Bill Simmons picked the Ravens to win! I think this is more wishful thinking on his part, but, and I know im a broken record, I'm seriously, one hundred percent worried about the weather.

If this game were played in a vacuum or dome, whatever, i dont think the Ravens would stand a chance. Peyton would do his thing. But we have a 36 year old QB coming off 4 neck surgeries (and one who has admitted that he needs the glove because his grip is not as good in the cold) who relies on pinpoint accuracy to move the Broncos.

When the weather is good, or even cold (KC game), he's proven he can do this. But sub-20 degree temps? He's going to have more trouble gripping the ball, i dont see how this is avoidable. And if he's off a little, this will be detrimental to the Broncos.

I'm worried. Tell me I'm wrong, give me good reasons to be wrong, please tell me I'm wrong.

http://www.nwzpaper.com/articleView?articleId=119

You're wrong.

Was the problem with Peyton in cold weather games the weather? Or was it more trouble with being on the road? Guess we'll find out today.

TonyR
01-12-2013, 09:55 PM
Unfortunately, Simmons nailed it.