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Kaylore
01-08-2013, 11:43 AM
Per Klis at Denver post.

Porter, Clady, Kuper, Holliday, McGahee, Xanders' unicorn - all practicing.

McGahee is ineligible to play. Not sure if any of the above will be limited, either.

Rocket 7
01-08-2013, 11:48 AM
Glad to see McGahee back. So much happy!

Mountain Bronco
01-08-2013, 11:54 AM
What about DT? Quick recovery from the Flu? Little know Manning effect?

gunns
01-08-2013, 11:59 AM
What about DT? Quick recovery from the Flu? Little know Manning effect?

This was my first thought too. That flu thread has sent me into a meltdown.

Bronco Yoda
01-08-2013, 12:02 PM
This is great news :)

Kaylore
01-08-2013, 12:02 PM
What about DT? Quick recovery from the Flu? Little know Derek Wolfe effect?

FYP

SoCalBronco
01-08-2013, 12:03 PM
Excellent news.

Kaylore
01-08-2013, 12:07 PM
Glad to see McGahee back. So much happy!

LOL Is that a reference to my facebook doppleganger?

Doggcow
01-08-2013, 12:10 PM
Yay. I still think Moreno should hold onto the #1 job though. He's been great for us (and holding onto the ball)

Rocket 7
01-08-2013, 12:13 PM
LOL Is that a reference to my facebook doppleganger?

Of course LOL

Swedish Extrovert
01-08-2013, 12:27 PM
ALL Broncos are practicing... last time I check DT was a Bronco, so he should be practicing. This is good news.

Yay. I still think Moreno should hold onto the #1 job though. He's been great for us (and holding onto the ball)

Moreno has been a workhorse (surprisingly). I'm excited to see how he develops next year. I don't think we need to draft a RB now.

If it weren't for McGahee's two snafus in the 4th quarter, we beat the Patriots earlier this year. For some reason, with Moreno going in I'm more confident that we'll beat them at home the second time 'round.

LRtagger
01-08-2013, 12:40 PM
ALL Broncos are practicing... last time I check DT was a Bronco, so he should be practicing. This is good news.



Moreno has been a workhorse (surprisingly). I'm excited to see how he develops next year. I don't think we need to draft a RB now.

If it weren't for McGahee's two snafus in the 4th quarter, we beat the Patriots earlier this year. For some reason, with Moreno going in I'm more confident that we'll beat them at home the second time 'round.

He was the key to us beating them in 2009 when he was a rookie

ZONA
01-08-2013, 12:48 PM
If it weren't for McGahee's two snafus in the 4th quarter, we beat the Patriots earlier this year.

That's an assumption. We might have, we might have not. Certainly not a guarantee that we would have. I do think we've done a much better job since the 1st Sandy Eggo game at not digging ourselves a big hole. I like our chances against them in a few weeks.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-08-2013, 01:00 PM
I wish it was cold in denver today so we can practice in it.

I really need to get over the weather. I think im in the minority of people who think it'll affect us

TheReverend
01-08-2013, 01:02 PM
LOL Is that a reference to my facebook doppleganger?

lol good times

Br0nc0Buster
01-08-2013, 01:04 PM
What about DT? Quick recovery from the Flu? Little know Manning effect?

He audibled it to a cold instead

Kaylore
01-08-2013, 01:11 PM
FYI there will be no injury report today so we won't know for sure how limited any of these players are until tomorrow's practice.

theAPAOps5
01-08-2013, 01:14 PM
LOL Is that a reference to my facebook doppleganger?

He was so awesome!

2KBack
01-08-2013, 01:15 PM
ALL Broncos are practicing... last time I check DT was a Bronco, so he should be practicing. This is good news.



Moreno has been a workhorse (surprisingly). I'm excited to see how he develops next year. I don't think we need to draft a RB now.

If it weren't for McGahee's two snafus in the 4th quarter, we beat the Patriots earlier this year. For some reason, with Moreno going in I'm more confident that we'll beat them at home the second time 'round.

I think we should still pick up a late rounder, as I think Mcgahee doesn't have much left. There will be some gems available in the later rounds

SonOfLe-loLang
01-08-2013, 01:49 PM
Someone explain the facebook doppelganger reference?

Swedish Extrovert
01-08-2013, 01:50 PM
I think we should still pick up a late rounder, as I think Mcgahee doesn't have much left. There will be some gems available in the later rounds

What positions are this years draft deep in?

Kaylore
01-08-2013, 01:59 PM
Someone explain the facebook doppelganger reference?

A Chinese spammer created a duplicate account of mine using my name and profile pic and started sending spam to my friends list. The Rev had an amazing conversation with him. I'll let him post it here, if he wants to.

Bronco Boy
01-08-2013, 02:18 PM
Yay. I still think Moreno should hold onto the #1 job though. He's been great for us (and holding onto the ball)

No kidding. McGahee is not worth the extra half yard per carry or so when there is the constant threat of a fumble. Starting to feel the same way about Trindon Holliday, too. Turnovers are just so important in the playoffs.

TheReverend
01-08-2013, 02:21 PM
A Chinese spammer created a duplicate account of mine using my name and profile pic and started sending spam to my friends list. The Rev had an amazing conversation with him. I'll let him post it here, if he wants to.

I dont mind if you put it up. My name's everywhere anyway.

Too lazy to do it myself, though.

Kaylore
01-08-2013, 02:35 PM
Here

bronco militia
01-08-2013, 02:38 PM
LOL

SoCalBronco
01-08-2013, 02:42 PM
Ahahaha

SonOfLe-loLang
01-08-2013, 03:07 PM
hahaha well done

2KBack
01-08-2013, 03:11 PM
What positions are this years draft deep in?

Well, in my opinion, RB is always deep. Which is why I don't like drafting one before the 3rd round

gunns
01-08-2013, 03:31 PM
OMG that was funny!

"I want so much happy too"
"Me so much happy want"

Hilarious!

pricejj
01-08-2013, 03:59 PM
Well, in my opinion, RB is always deep. Which is why I don't like drafting one before the 3rd round

There are 16 RB's who gained over 1,000 yards rushing in the NFL in 2012. 12 of them were selected before the 10th pick of the 3rd round.

There were 14 RB's who gained over 1,000 yards rushing in the NFL in 2011. 13 of them were picked on or before the 1st pick of the 3rd round.

2KBack
01-08-2013, 04:38 PM
There are 16 RB's who gained over 1,000 yards rushing in the NFL in 2012. 12 of them were selected before the 10th pick of the 3rd round.

There were 14 RB's who gained over 1,000 yards rushing in the NFL in 2011. 13 of them were picked on or before the 1st pick of the 3rd round.

Wasted resources.

How many of those 1st and second round 1k rushers made the playoffs (4)...how many with the team that drafted them(3)....and how many are left(2)?

As much as I defend Moreno, because he does have talent, we didn't need to draft him in the first round. Running back is the most plug and play position in the NFL. It is a position that is very statistically dependent on the offense, and one that can be hard to judge on numbers alone. It's also my favorite position, and the one I failed to be successful at in college.

A commitee approach is the best practice for running backs.

Think team success, not individual stats.

For example: Since the Cowboys SB suns in the early 90's, only 2 teams have won the Superbowl with a high round Running back that they drafted: Baltimore in 2000 (Jamal Lewis) and the Colts in 2006 (Addai).

pricejj
01-08-2013, 05:06 PM
Wasted resources.

How many of those 1st and second round 1k rushers made the playoffs (4)...how many with the team that drafted them(3)....and how many are left(2)?

As much as I defend Moreno, because he does have talent, we didn't need to draft him in the first round. Running back is the most plug and play position in the NFL. It is a position that is very statistically dependent on the offense, and one that can be hard to judge on numbers alone. It's also my favorite position, and the one I failed to be successful at in college.

A commitee approach is the best practice for running backs.

Think team success, not individual stats.

For example: Since the Cowboys SB suns in the early 90's, only 2 teams have won the Superbowl with a high round Running back that they drafted: Baltimore in 2000 (Jamal Lewis) and the Colts in 2006 (Addai).

I'm not advocating to take an RB in the 1st round this year. But not everybody can evaluate RB's as good as Shanahan and Bobby Turner.

Of the 4 remaining teams in the AFC playoffs, 3 of the 4 starting RB's were drafted before the 10th pick in the 3rd round (Foster is the other).

Of the 4 remaining teams in the NFC playoffs, 3 of the 4 starting RB's were drafted on or before the 1st pick of the 3rd round (and you can pretty much guarantee the Packers are going to pick an RB in the first 2 rounds this year).

It's just as important to have a high draft pick starting RB, as it is any other position. The Broncos don't have Shanahan, Turner, Gibbs, or Kubiak anymore. And we don't run the 2-back ZBS either. The RB in a single-back set MUST be able to pick up yards consistently without a lead blocker. You need to have a really good RB to at least take the pressure off the QB, or your toast. Same goes for Manning and the Broncos.

McGahee, Moreno, and Hillman were all high draft picks.

TheChamp24
01-08-2013, 05:20 PM
I'm not advocating to take an RB in the 1st round this year. But not everybody can evaluate RB's as good as Shanahan and Bobby Turner.

Of the 4 remaining teams in the AFC playoffs, 3 of the 4 starting RB's were drafted before the 10th pick in the 3rd round (Foster is the other).

Of the 4 remaining teams in the NFC playoffs, 3 of the 4 starting RB's were drafted on or before the 1st pick of the 3rd round (and you can pretty much guarantee the Packers are going to pick an RB in the first 2 rounds this year).

It's just as important to have a high draft pick starting RB, as it is any other position. The Broncos don't have Shanahan, Turner, Gibbs, or Kubiak anymore. And we don't run the 2-back ZBS either. The RB in a single-back set MUST be able to pick up yards consistently without a lead blocker. You need to have a really good RB to at least take the pressure off the QB, or your toast. Same goes for Manning and the Broncos.

McGahee, Moreno, and Hillman were all high draft picks.

Pats - Ridley was a 3rd rounder
Texans - Foster undrafted
Rice - 2nd rounder
Moreno - 1st rounder...ugh

Falcons - Turner, 4th or 5th rounder
Packers - none high picks
49ers - Gore was a 3rd rounder
Seahawks - Lynch a 1st rounder

I just think it shows unless you have an absolute elite talent prospect, you can wait to take a RB. Pats won 2 Super Bowls with Antowain Smith their starting RB, Steelers won with Willie Parker, Packers won with Grant/Starks, Giants with Jacobs/Bradshaw. Don't reach for a RB basically.

pricejj
01-08-2013, 05:23 PM
I want 1st and 2nd round draft picks at as many starting positions as possible on the Broncos, except where lower round guys are clearly playing at a Pro Bowl level.

Here's all the lower draft pick starters on the Broncos:

Core Starters:
1. Elvis Dumervil (Pro Bowler)
2. Dan Koppen (former Pro Bowler)
3. Wesley Woodyard (playing at a Pro Bowl level)
4. Chris Harris (playing at a Pro Bowl level)
5. Eric Decker (should have been a 2nd round pick, having a great year)

Could be replaced:
6. Chris Kuper (good player, but had issues early in his career being effective in the redzone)
7. Mike Adams (playing well, but could be replaced)
8. Joel Dreessen (playing well, but could be replaced)
9. Kevin Vickerson (needs to be upgraded)
10. Justin Bannan (needs to be upgraded by shifting Wolfe)
11. Throw in Keith Brooking due to his age

The only starters that may be upgraded in the offseason are all low draft picks.

That's why it's so imperative to draft starters with your first two picks, year after year. If not...you're team won't be very good.

broncosteven
01-08-2013, 05:24 PM
Per Klis at Denver post.

Porter, Clady, Kuper, Holliday, McGahee, Xanders' unicorn - all practicing.

McGahee is ineligible to play. Not sure if any of the above will be limited, either.

Why can't Willis play until the Championship game? This rule brings confusion to my doorstep.

pricejj
01-08-2013, 05:28 PM
...

Whoops...was wrong about Turner.

Other than that, only Foster, and whomever GB is probably going to replace with Lacy in the 1st round, was drafted before the 10th pick of the 3rd round.

errand
01-08-2013, 05:37 PM
I wish it was cold in denver today so we can practice in it.

I really need to get over the weather. I think im in the minority of people who think it'll affect us

Yes, because it's never cold anywhere else these professional players have played...

maher_tyler
01-08-2013, 05:40 PM
Why can't Willis play until the Championship game? This rule brings confusion to my doorstep.

I think you have to be on IR a certain period of time before you can be taken off. It seems to be the only reason why. I read some where that if a game were tomorrow, he wouldn't be ready to go anyway.

myMind
01-08-2013, 05:46 PM
I thought Willis is on the PUP list, and can't play for six weeks after being placed on that list.

Kaylore
01-08-2013, 05:54 PM
I thought Willis is on the PUP list, and can't play for six weeks after being placed on that list.

The rules are the same but you are only eligible for PUP if your injury is not during the presason or regular season.

McGahee is on IR.

myMind
01-08-2013, 06:06 PM
The rules are the same but you are only eligible for PUP if your injury is not during the presason or regular season.

McGahee is on IR.

Just read up on this, interesting that they can bring one player back now. Always thought the PUP was an in season thing, my mistake.

Que
01-08-2013, 09:29 PM
Yay. I still think Moreno should hold onto the #1 job though. He's been great for us (and holding onto the ball)

This looks just so strange in print. Not that I disagree with you. Just sayin

Que
01-08-2013, 09:43 PM
Here

Such strong work here

Doggcow
01-08-2013, 10:19 PM
http://i.imgur.com/T1UiU.gif

TheChamp24
01-09-2013, 05:58 AM
I want 1st and 2nd round draft picks at as many starting positions as possible on the Broncos, except where lower round guys are clearly playing at a Pro Bowl level.

Here's all the lower draft pick starters on the Broncos:

Core Starters:
1. Elvis Dumervil (Pro Bowler)
2. Dan Koppen (former Pro Bowler)
3. Wesley Woodyard (playing at a Pro Bowl level)
4. Chris Harris (playing at a Pro Bowl level)
5. Eric Decker (should have been a 2nd round pick, having a great year)

Could be replaced:
6. Chris Kuper (good player, but had issues early in his career being effective in the redzone)
7. Mike Adams (playing well, but could be replaced)
8. Joel Dreessen (playing well, but could be replaced)
9. Kevin Vickerson (needs to be upgraded)
10. Justin Bannan (needs to be upgraded by shifting Wolfe)
11. Throw in Keith Brooking due to his age

The only starters that may be upgraded in the offseason are all low draft picks.

That's why it's so imperative to draft starters with your first two picks, year after year. If not...you're team won't be very good.

I think Vickerson doesn't need to be upgraded that much, he's played decent so far to be honest.
I think you're crazy if you think Kuper, probably our best OL, needs to be upgraded.
TE, yes, it would help tremendously to have a great TE out there.

2KBack
01-09-2013, 05:58 AM
Whoops...was wrong about Turner.

Other than that, only Foster, and whomever GB is probably going to replace with Lacy in the 1st round, was drafted before the 10th pick of the 3rd round.

Like I said....3rd round is where you start with a RB, no earlier. Outside of Rice and Moreno, All of the playoff RB's are 3 round or later....or were free agents. You want to sign a former 1st rounder on the cheap? I'm all for it. Spending a 1st round draft pick on a RB is a bad value, second rounder is pushing it....3rd or 4th is just about right.

That's where you'll find guys like:
Michael Dyer
Kenjon Barner
Rex Burkhead
Christine Michael
Marcus Lattimore
Cameron Marshall

All guys that I think will be good pros

TheChamp24
01-09-2013, 06:19 AM
Like I said....3rd round is where you start with a RB, no earlier. Outside of Rice and Moreno, All of the playoff RB's are 3 round or later....or were free agents. You want to sign a former 1st rounder on the cheap? I'm all for it. Spending a 1st round draft pick on a RB is a bad value, second rounder is pushing it....3rd or 4th is just about right.

That's where you'll find guys like:
Michael Dyer
Kenjon Barner
Rex Burkhead
Christine Michael
Marcus Lattimore
Cameron Marshall

All guys that I think will be good pros

I'm on the boat unless you have a special talent at RB, you don't take one in the 1st round.
2nd round I'm all for it.

Bacchus
01-09-2013, 08:04 AM
Yay. I still think Moreno should hold onto the #1 job though. He's been great for us (and holding onto the ball)

He is simply not as good. Moreno will start in the AFC Championship game but if all goes well I expect McGahee to start the SB.

McGahee's fumbling has been a recent two year thing. He has not been a fumbler throughout his career. Hopefully, he will get it under control but Denver needs him on the field. He is quicker, a better runner, pass protector and probably even faster than Moreno.

25 carries Mcgahee gets 132 yards rushing.
25 carries Moreno gets only 114 yards and he doesn't do the little things as well.

I'm all for them splitting carries because Moreno has done a great job filling in, but that is what he has been doing, filling in.

Bacchus
01-09-2013, 08:05 AM
Yay. I still think Moreno should hold onto the #1 job though. He's been great for us (and holding onto the ball)

He is simply not as good. Moreno will start in the AFC Championship game but if all goes well I expect McGahee to start the SB.

McGahee's fumbling has been a recent two year thing. He has not been a fumbler throughout his career. Hopefully, he will get it under control but Denver needs him on the field. He is quicker, a better runner, pass protector and probably even faster than Moreno.

25 carries Mcgahee gets 132 yards rushing.
25 carries Moreno gets only 114 yards and he doesn't do the little things as well.

I'm all for them splitting carries because Moreno has done a great job filling in, but that is what he has been doing, filling in.

TheReverend
01-09-2013, 03:05 PM
Here

Afterward I convinced the guy the money had in fact been transferred into my account already and he got quite nervous for a while before he stopped responding.

Kaylore
01-09-2013, 03:09 PM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/team/injury-report.html

So I lied. Porter was held out with concussion, but the rest all were full.

Name Position Injury Wed. Thu. Fri. Game Status
Adams, Mike S Knee FP - - -
Clady, Ryan T Shoulder FP - - -
Franklin, Orlando T Knee FP - - -
Holliday, Trindon WR Ankle FP - - -
Kuper, Chris G Ankle FP - - -
Leonhard, Jim S Thigh FP - - -
Porter, Tracy CB Concussion DNP - - -
Willis, Matthew WR Knee FP - - -

gunns
01-09-2013, 03:14 PM
Well, in my opinion, RB is always deep. Which is why I don't like drafting one before the 3rd round

This sounds like the WR position to me. RB are either found in the 1st round .......or 6th round. ;D

TheReverend
01-09-2013, 03:20 PM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/team/injury-report.html

So I lied. Porter was held out with concussion, but the rest all were full.

Does he really count as a team-member anymore, anyway?

pricejj
01-09-2013, 03:23 PM
I think Vickerson doesn't need to be upgraded that much, he's played decent so far to be honest.
I think you're crazy if you think Kuper, probably our best OL, needs to be upgraded.
TE, yes, it would help tremendously to have a great TE out there.

I don't want to replace Vickerson either, but taking a 1st round pick at NT (Vickerson's position) is highly probable. The Broncos still need a penetrator there.

Only replace Kuper if he can't play on that foot anymore, obviously.

...

This year, a 3rd round RB (or later) is fine...to replace Lance Ball.

In general, if you're lacking at RB (the Broncos aren't), I would recommend picking a top prospect in the 20-73 range, depending on what players are available, and what other players you need.

2KBack
01-09-2013, 04:01 PM
This year, a 3rd round RB (or later) is fine...to replace Lance Ball.

In general, if you're lacking at RB (the Broncos aren't), I would recommend picking a top prospect in the 20-73 range, depending on what players are available, and what other players you need.

I don't think I'd argue with that....if you don't have any effective runners, the argument could be made to pick for that need. Not me personal philsophy, but understandable.

I think we are replacing McGahee though. Not that I don't like him, I just think age and injuries are going to slow him significantly.