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Orange&BlueMohawk
12-26-2012, 07:56 PM
Okay I have slowly been stockpiling my furiosity over the last couple weeks. If I'm not careful, I am going to start boiling over.

For as good as we are doing, and how we are looking going into the last week of the regular season, and potentially getting the Number 1 seed, the only thing Broncos in the entire 1 hour show was our three passing touchdown highlights, a total of 20ish seconds.

They spent more time talking about everything else (obviously) but most notably rookie QB's (RGIII, Luck, Wilson), coaching changes, and five minutes of a Chuggers/ Jets game with sound.

Hell, our game had to have been way more interesting than the Jets/ Chuggers. Even if ours wasn't close.

There was more interest/ coverage in the Vikings/ Texans (thanks AD) but we are better than the Texans.

Overall, I am more disappointed that there was a serious lack of interest in one of the better stories going into the playoffs, especially since we are at the top of our game, on a serious win streak, and roughly the top of power rankings. And how close the race for our Number 1 is.

Anyone else feeling this lack of love, or just getting fed up with it. Better start respecting. Also, other thoughts.

Archer81
12-26-2012, 08:00 PM
Honestly dont care about the lack of attention. If Denver wins out they will get too much of it. Just how it goes.

:Broncos:

Orange&BlueMohawk
12-26-2012, 08:05 PM
Well, I can see it now, from every (anal)yst, commentator, and douche they allow to talk on TV like we care about their opinions.

'I have been saying it all year: look out for the Broncos. I have been on their side since Day 1.'

The only real opinion I pay attention to is Steve Mariucchi. Mainly because he is smart and not a tool.

oubronco
12-26-2012, 08:06 PM
i like flying under the radar just keep chopping that wood and cutting that meat

Orange&BlueMohawk
12-26-2012, 08:10 PM
I guess we will get plenty once the playoffs start, but still.

XXXII&III
12-26-2012, 08:15 PM
It'll just make them all look like fools when they fall all over themselves jumping on the bandwagon.

DomCasual
12-26-2012, 08:49 PM
Every time I hear someone talk about disrespect, I think of this thread: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=918322#post918322

SoCalBronco
12-26-2012, 08:50 PM
The media hates us.

(That was for you, Zach)

DBroncos4life
12-26-2012, 08:55 PM
I do get tired of hearing opposing fans say we can't beat good teams because we lost to Atl,NE, and Hou early in the season.

RedskinBronco
12-26-2012, 08:58 PM
It's honestly all ESPN. They cover the cowboys and all the geographically close to bristol teams (NE, NYG).

It's nothing against the Broncos. The rest of the attention is based on the players. For example, you would hear nothing about the Broncos, Redskins, Colts, Seahawks, Saints if it wasn't for Manning, RGIII, Luck, Wilson and Brees

ESPN is pretty tough to watch, with a lot of fluff and BS but they just gravitate to the main guys. No one would pay attention to the Minnesota Vikings if Peterson was not on the team and even then, it really took them being in contention.

Dr.5280
12-26-2012, 09:04 PM
Revenge Tour II.

SonOfLe-loLang
12-26-2012, 09:05 PM
It's honestly all ESPN. They cover the cowboys and all the geographically close to bristol teams (NE, NYG).

It's nothing against the Broncos. The rest of the attention is based on the players. For example, you would hear nothing about the Broncos, Redskins, Colts, Seahawks, Saints if it wasn't for Manning, RGIII, Luck, Wilson and Brees

ESPN is pretty tough to watch, with a lot of fluff and BS but they just gravitate to the main guys. No one would pay attention to the Minnesota Vikings if Peterson was not on the team and even then, it really took them being in contention.

And Tebow. He still has his own section in the ESPN scroll

baja
12-26-2012, 09:11 PM
I do get tired of hearing opposing fans say we can't beat good teams because we lost to Atl,NE, and Hou early in the season.

I love it that they think that.

BroncoMan4ever
12-26-2012, 09:39 PM
I love flying under the radar. Sure lack of respect sucks, but it makes kicking ass that much sweeter and helps keep the bandwagon fans in New England and San Francisco

BroncoMan4ever
12-26-2012, 09:40 PM
I love it that they think that.

Those good teams don't buy that thought process either

Mile High Salute
12-26-2012, 10:17 PM
(Yawn)

The Broncos haven't done anything yet. Beat Kansas City to clinch a first round bye, then beat the Pats in the divisional round at Mile High, and the respect will come. This is how I'd prefer it to be, actually. It will keep the team focused and with something to prove.

tesnyde
12-26-2012, 11:04 PM
Okay I have slowly been stockpiling my furiosity over the last couple weeks. If I'm not careful, I am going to start boiling over.

For as good as we are doing, and how we are looking going into the last week of the regular season, and potentially getting the Number 1 seed, the only thing Broncos in the entire 1 hour show was our three passing touchdown highlights, a total of 20ish seconds.

They spent more time talking about everything else (obviously) but most notably rookie QB's (RGIII, Luck, Wilson), coaching changes, and five minutes of a Chuggers/ Jets game with sound.

Hell, our game had to have been way more interesting than the Jets/ Chuggers. Even if ours wasn't close.

There was more interest/ coverage in the Vikings/ Texans (thanks AD) but we are better than the Texans.

Overall, I am more disappointed that there was a serious lack of interest in one of the better stories going into the playoffs, especially since we are at the top of our game, on a serious win streak, and roughly the top of power rankings. And how close the race for our Number 1 is.

Anyone else feeling this lack of love, or just getting fed up with it. Better start respecting. Also, other thoughts.

I find it frustrating to have just a quick blurb at the end of the show, which has been the case the on several occasions, however I chalk it up to many of your opponents. Other than the Ravens, most have been dogs that haven't warranted any respect. It's more about them sucking and less about disrespecting us.

lonestar
12-27-2012, 12:00 AM
Well, I can see it now, from every (anal)yst, commentator, and douche they allow to talk on TV like we care about their opinions.

'I have been saying it all year: look out for the Broncos. I have been on their side since Day 1.'

The only real opinion I pay attention to is Steve Mariucchi. Mainly because he is smart and not a tool.

Seriously. Dude it is a game. Not life or death.

Time to get a life outside football.

extralife
12-27-2012, 02:41 AM
we played the Browns last week, and we're playing KC this week. what do you expect?

cutthemdown
12-27-2012, 03:38 AM
Inside the NFL when it was on HBO with Len Dawson was a riot. He picked the Cheifs to win like 99 out of 100 times lol. I had no idea it was even still on. What channel?

cutthemdown
12-27-2012, 03:41 AM
On the subject of highlights remember how hard it was to find them back in the late 70's 80's when a lot of us started watching football? I would stay up and switch between the sports news trying to get all the highlights only to finally see the lame 5 second clip of maybe one play.

Then yeah I would wait for Inside The NFL all excited and they would screw the Broncos every time. The only games the every showed the highlights of were the Raiders Broncos. The bad news is back then they seemed to beat us all the time lol.

RedskinBronco
12-27-2012, 06:14 AM
And Tebow. He still has his own section in the ESPN scroll

Yep. You can add Tebow to that initial prime club of Cowboys/NE/NYG.

It's so funny to see the Cowboys/Redskins hype it up game of the week is all completely slanted from the Cowboys direction on that station.

Everything is from a "how do the cowboys win" and "cowboys can win the NFC east by defeating redskins" perspective

If it wasn't for RGIII, ESPN would have you think the Redskins are some lucky ass, garbage team in the way of the almighty Dallas Cowboys

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-27-2012, 06:20 AM
Well, I can see it now, from every (anal)yst, commentator, and douche they allow to talk on TV like we care about their opinions.

'I have been saying it all year: look out for the Broncos. I have been on their side since Day 1.'

The only real opinion I pay attention to is Steve Mariucchi. Mainly because he is smart and not a tool.

Isn't this thread the very definition of "caring about their opinions"?

Sorry man, we're playing so well, so efficiently right now, we're kind of boring to those who aren't a fan of the team. "Oh, the Broncos won again? Oh." Meanwhile, RG3 is pulling victory after victory out of his helmet, and Andrew Luck is having an astounding rookie campaign.

I prefer the lack of attention. As long as I can see the games, nothing else really matters.

Kaylore
12-27-2012, 06:28 AM
The Broncos aren't flawed and beat teams in an undramatic fashion. They are boring by media standards.

Tombstone RJ
12-27-2012, 06:35 AM
Who watches Inside the NFL anyway?

Old Dude
12-27-2012, 06:52 AM
Back in the stone age, about all we had was the weekly NFL films show (usually on Saturday afternoons.) Dramatic footage, set to music, but most teams got more or less equal time.

Then came the highlights section of Monday Night Football. Compressed down to four or five minutes, not every game made the cut. If your team won, but didn't get mentioned, that was cause for putting a shoe through the TV, especially since Howard made plenty of editorial comments about who was good and who was blah. That's when I first saw people complaining about respect from the media. But you still had the NFL films show on Saturdays to sooth your fanaticism.

When Inside the NFL started, they devoted a lot more time to film. But over the years, as the market has been flooded with the NFL channel and multiple ESPN and other sports shows, not to mention Sunday night games, Thursday night games, and internet sites like NFL.com, chances are most people have seen most highlights from most games at least three or four times before Inside the NFL even airs. So, over time, they spend less time showing film and more time on features and talking heads that usually focus on whatever theme or player strikes them at the moment.

I miss the good old days, except the part where we lost a lot.

Mountain Bronco
12-27-2012, 07:33 AM
Don't care.

maher_tyler
12-27-2012, 07:40 AM
I haven't noticed and lack of coverage at all. I like the fact we just keep rolling onto the next week. This team seems to be more focused than any other team in the league.

Kaylore
12-27-2012, 07:47 AM
Honestly, what's more interesting? The Broncos did the same thing they've done the past ten weeks, or Cowboys vs. Redskins for the NFC East title this weekend? Pagano returns to his playoff bound team. RGIII Rookie sensation surging past the rest of the NFC East. The Steelers folding and fallout for Haley and Big Ben. The Bears imploding. Aaron Rogers dragging a mash-unit of a team into the playoffs just as they are getting healthy. Calvin Johnson and AD making history. Niners/Seahawks.

The Broncos fate is largely decided. The media has to squeeze in all the regular season drama because a lot of teams are about to be eliminated and irrelevant. When the playoffs begin things will change.

dsmoot
12-27-2012, 07:48 AM
Okay I have slowly been stockpiling my furiosity over the last couple weeks. If I'm not careful, I am going to start boiling over.

For as good as we are doing, and how we are looking going into the last week of the regular season, and potentially getting the Number 1 seed, the only thing Broncos in the entire 1 hour show was our three passing touchdown highlights, a total of 20ish seconds.

They spent more time talking about everything else (obviously) but most notably rookie QB's (RGIII, Luck, Wilson), coaching changes, and five minutes of a Chuggers/ Jets game with sound.

Hell, our game had to have been way more interesting than the Jets/ Chuggers. Even if ours wasn't close.

There was more interest/ coverage in the Vikings/ Texans (thanks AD) but we are better than the Texans.

Overall, I am more disappointed that there was a serious lack of interest in one of the better stories going into the playoffs, especially since we are at the top of our game, on a serious win streak, and roughly the top of power rankings. And how close the race for our Number 1 is.

Anyone else feeling this lack of love, or just getting fed up with it. Better start respecting. Also, other thoughts.

I don't know your age or how long you have been a Bronco fan, but in 1996 through 1998, it was no different. The national sports scene is centered on the east coast. Its reporters and staffs originate from that area and so do their allegiances. This bias will never change. When Denver went to SB32, the national news was focused on another John Elway beating.

The media did not recognize that Denver brought a much superior team than the 80's Reeves led teams. They sat stunned with about 5 minutes to go and afterwards trying to explain this upset of great proportions. Anyone who sat through the Bronco 80's knew different.

The following year, when it was difficult to repeat, the national media watched out of the corner of their eye at Denver. What they saw the next year was a better team which saw many of the games on ice by the 3rd quarter. Who knows how many yards TD would have finished with that year. Instead of singing the Bronco praises, the national media prayed for a Jacksonville type upset through the playoffs. For once, the NFC delivered a team to the Superbowl which unequally matched the Broncos as Denver had been unequal to the teams they faced in the 80's Superbowls.

However, the media's prayers were answered in short order, Elway was exchanged for Griese, Lepsis rolled up on TD, Shanahan's britches became too small and the bottom was finally reached when McDaniels rode into town.

Team Elway/Fox have purged the attitude from Dove Valley with an influx of some pretty capable players including some good free agent finds. They hit the jackpot with the Manning signing which was the perfect solution for exiting Tebow. I love Tebow and would still love to see him show everyone wrong but Denver had to jump into the Manning sweepstakes. My wife still hasn't emotionally detached herself from what Denver did to Tim.

We have now come full circle to about 1996. The media still doesn't recognize the Broncos may be a much better TEAM. This is all about Manning. The HOF Manning. Surely Denver will find its end when they face that east coast monster in New England and pretty boy Brady (not Quinn).

ColoradoDarin
12-27-2012, 07:59 AM
I gave up on cable/satellite TV last year, and yet, I don't miss any ESPN/NFLN/Talking head shows at all. They have just above nothing for me as a Bronco fan and I give them the same back (and watch a stream if the games are on M/Th).

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-27-2012, 08:04 AM
Ah yes, the "media as enemy" narrative. "They only like the east coast teams!" Which totally explains their coverage of the Packers.

Derp.

SleepingTiger
12-27-2012, 08:32 AM
I see it differently. Watching many shows on NFLN and listening to national radio shows, I am actually surprised how much respect we get. Just this morning, on the mike and mike with hill and schlereth, question was asked which team do you fear the most. Mangini said it was the Broncos. Top 5 on defense and offense. Said we are the most complete team in the NFL. Heard this on NFLN as well. 5 weeks ago, mike greenburg said he thought the best team in the NFL was the Broncos. Of course, Golic said it was the Patriots, Houston and 49ers.

To be fair, the Texans didn't get that much hype in the first half of the year when they clearly was the best team in the NFL

dsmoot
12-27-2012, 08:47 AM
I see it differently. Watching many shows on NFLN and listening to national radio shows, I am actually surprised how much respect we get. Just this morning, on the mike and mike with hill and schlereth, question was asked which team do you fear the most. Mangini said it was the Broncos. Top 5 on defense and offense. Said we are the most complete team in the NFL. Heard this on NFLN as well. 5 weeks ago, mike greenburg said he thought the best team in the NFL was the Broncos. Of course, Golic said it was the Patriots, Houston and 49ers.

To be fair, the Texans didn't get that much hype in the first half of the year when they clearly was the best team in the NFL

Yes, I have heard Greenburg give kudos to the Broncos. I think he started doing that right after it was obvious his Jets were so pathetic and they had no chance to reach the playoffs. It must have physically hurt him to start saying that. To his credit, he is one of the few. I like Mangini's view of the league regardless of his positive Bronco comments. Schlereth has been a little hard on Denver at times, even this year.

My view of Denver is that last yrs playoff, although entertaining, was against a faltering Pittsburgh team that didn't prove much and NE dismantled them offensively. Denver will still have to prove themselves against those teams that hung losses on them earlier in the year. The real test starts in a couple of weeks where credibility is earned.

Kaylore
12-27-2012, 09:22 AM
Ah yes, the "media as enemy" narrative. "They only like the east coast teams!" Which totally explains their coverage of the Packers.

Derp.

I actually think this is true. It's hard for teams like Seattle to get attention. The media eventually figures it out, but it's usually delayed quite a bit. I 100% belive in the East coast bias.

In this case, I don't think that's the issue.

crawdad
12-27-2012, 09:31 AM
Back in the stone age, about all we had was the weekly NFL films show (usually on Saturday afternoons.) Dramatic footage, set to music, but most teams got more or less equal time.

Then came the highlights section of Monday Night Football. Compressed down to four or five minutes, not every game made the cut. If your team won, but didn't get mentioned, that was cause for putting a shoe through the TV, especially since Howard made plenty of editorial comments about who was good and who was blah. That's when I first saw people complaining about respect from the media. But you still had the NFL films show on Saturdays to sooth your fanaticism.

When Inside the NFL started, they devoted a lot more time to film. But over the years, as the market has been flooded with the NFL channel and multiple ESPN and other sports shows, not to mention Sunday night games, Thursday night games, and internet sites like NFL.com, chances are most people have seen most highlights from most games at least three or four times before Inside the NFL even airs. So, over time, they spend less time showing film and more time on features and talking heads that usually focus on whatever theme or player strikes them at the moment.

I miss the good old days, except the part where we lost a lot.

I remember in the 70's when a local Denver TV station would have someone throw a brick through a TV set when Howard showed his face. He didn't get much facetime when that starting happening.

Old Dude
12-27-2012, 09:40 AM
Honestly, what's more interesting? The Broncos did the same thing they've done the past ten weeks, or Cowboys vs. Redskins for the NFC East title this weekend? Pagano returns to his playoff bound team. RGIII Rookie sensation surging past the rest of the NFC East. The Steelers folding and fallout for Haley and Big Ben. The Bears imploding. Aaron Rogers dragging a mash-unit of a team into the playoffs just as they are getting healthy. Calvin Johnson and AD making history. Niners/Seahawks.

The Broncos fate is largely decided. The media has to squeeze in all the regular season drama because a lot of teams are about to be eliminated and irrelevant. When the playoffs begin things will change.

Yup. The Broncos were "interesting" last year, and got ridiculous amounts of coverage.

Not even the Chiefs fans are up for this week's game. They just want it over quick and ugly so they can get to their draft fantasies.

Greatspirits
12-27-2012, 09:47 AM
I don't mind the lack of attention as well, I hope they don't say squat about us. All that matters now is that they keep winning.

DENVERDUI55
12-27-2012, 10:54 AM
When it has been months since the last competitive game the media would rather talk about a spat between a FB wanting to play QB and his deadbeat coach. When you are boring it is a good thing.

lonestar
12-27-2012, 12:04 PM
I don't know your age or how long you have been a Bronco fan, but in 1996 through 1998, it was no different. The national sports scene is centered on the east coast. Its reporters and staffs originate from that area and so do their allegiances. This bias will never change. When Denver went to SB32, the national news was focused on another John Elway beating.

The media did not recognize that Denver brought a much superior team than the 80's Reeves led teams. They sat stunned with about 5 minutes to go and afterwards trying to explain this upset of great proportions. Anyone who sat through the Bronco 80's knew different.

The following year, when it was difficult to repeat, the national media watched out of the corner of their eye at Denver. What they saw the next year was a better team which saw many of the games on ice by the 3rd quarter. Who knows how many yards TD would have finished with that year. Instead of singing the Bronco praises, the national media prayed for a Jacksonville type upset through the playoffs. For once, the NFC delivered a team to the Superbowl which unequally matched the Broncos as Denver had been unequal to the teams they faced in the 80's Superbowls.

However, the media's prayers were answered in short order, Elway was exchanged for Griese, Lepsis rolled up on TD, Shanahan's britches became too small and the bottom was finally reached when McDaniels rode into town.

Team Elway/Fox have purged the attitude from Dove Valley with an influx of some pretty capable players including some good free agent finds. They hit the jackpot with the Manning signing which was the perfect solution for exiting Tebow. I love Tebow and would still love to see him show everyone wrong but Denver had to jump into the Manning sweepstakes. My wife still hasn't emotionally detached herself from what Denver did to Tim.

We have now come full circle to about 1996. The media still doesn't recognize the Broncos may be a much better TEAM. This is all about Manning. The HOF Manning. Surely Denver will find its end when they face that east coast monster in New England and pretty boy Brady (not Quinn).

Since Denver is so far down the media list of major markets CBS does not care nor does show time, Eason, or even the NFLN.

If it was NOT for Manning no one would care but he is the story line old man comes back from career ending surgerys.

While it is important to us most of us could care less about NE. Or any other east coast team. But those teams out number us by 15-1 maybe more.

Who does the channels care about selling ad space to those folks not us.