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MillerMayhem58
12-23-2012, 09:26 AM
Am I missing something here? The media is talking as if he already has broken the record. His team will probably fail to reach the playoffs. Am I looking at this through my orange colored glasses or is something really wrong with how the media is dealing with this?

Archer81
12-23-2012, 09:27 AM
Less then a year removed from knee reconstruction and has the potential to break Dickerson's record. Its impressive. If the Vikings make the playoffs he will probably win MVP.

:Broncos:

rmsanger
12-23-2012, 10:00 AM
He would have my vote and it's not even close.

CEH
12-23-2012, 10:06 AM
In close to half their games, AD is putting up rushing numbers close to or greater than Ponder's passing numbers. Ponder is not good and the team is riding AD hard and he's responding with a record breaking season

Without AD, Vikes are probably a 3-4 win team

If Vikes make the playoffs, AD would get my vote.

Lestat
12-23-2012, 10:08 AM
dude is a alien or something but he will likely win MVP or at least co-MVP

BroncoMan4ever
12-23-2012, 10:10 AM
Less then a year removed from knee reconstruction and has the potential to break Dickerson's record. Its impressive. If the Vikings make the playoffs he will probably win MVP.

:Broncos:
Peyton's head was just about ready to fall off his shoulders. He couldn't throw anymore. 4 neck surgeries a new team, turning nameless receivers into stars, has his new team in the number 2 seed with a possuble shot at thw number 1 seed and a legit shot at being the 1st QB to win a super bowl for 2 teams, all after being dumped by the only team he ever knew. AD is having a monster year but Peyton is a having a miracle year when there was doubt he'd ever play again

HAT
12-23-2012, 10:16 AM
Am I missing something here? The media is talking as if he already has broken the record. His team will probably fail to reach the playoffs. Am I looking at this through my orange colored glasses or is something really wrong with how the media is dealing with this?

Manning is a VERY distant 2nd.

myMind
12-23-2012, 10:22 AM
Manning is a VERY distant 2nd.

Your post is illogical, and obviously personal opinion.
I could very well see a coMVP this year.

Lestat
12-23-2012, 10:35 AM
either Peterson will win it outright due to him coming back so soon after getting hurt in December of last year or it'll be co MVP's.
AP is getting at least a share due to his injury, the team he is on and the defense he faces while doing the work he's been doing.

RhymesayersDU
12-23-2012, 10:38 AM
I don't have a problem with AP winning it IF he breaks the record. Not just 2K, but he breaks the record. If he does that give him MVP, comeback, offensive player, whatever. All of it. It's his if he breaks the record IMO.

Punisher
12-23-2012, 10:40 AM
Yea because nobody had the Vikings smelling the playoffs.

Bacchus
12-23-2012, 10:58 AM
If the Vikes make the playoffs he needs to win the MVP.

halfback
12-23-2012, 11:02 AM
Yea because nobody had the Vikings smelling the playoffs.

Most "experts" had us finishing no better than third in our division before the season started, that being said if ap breaks record he should get it regardless, if not he should get as many votes as cj2k did when he went over 2k..... None

Jason in LA
12-23-2012, 11:27 AM
If the Vikings will today and next week, they are in.

I would have no issue with AD getting the MVP award. I would like to see the Vikings O line get some of that credit. Looking at the highlights, it's not just AD breaking tackles. And on a lot of those highlights that shows him getting yards after contant, he isn't getting hit until several yards down field. But the guy has been a beast, and he would have earned the MVP award.

I don't think that he should get Comeback Player of the Year. His injury only cost him one start, so he was never really gone.

broncofever
12-23-2012, 11:35 AM
I could easily see AD as MVP and PFM as Comeback Player of the Year or possibly some sort of joint thing, but I expect they will split it.

Aftermath
12-23-2012, 02:21 PM
Are you missing something? AP better be the MVP. Dude is a monster. Their offense is atrocious without him and opposing defenses know they are running all game.

jerseyguy4
12-23-2012, 02:46 PM
I think they should split both MVP and cbpoy

Bacchus
12-23-2012, 02:54 PM
Are you missing something? AP better be the MVP. Dude is a monster. Their offense is atrocious without him and opposing defenses know they are running all game.

MVP stands for Most Valuable Player. If the Vikes do not make the playoffs then how can he be the most valuable player? After all without him they still would not have made the playoffs.


If the Vikes make the play offs he deserves to be MVP. If they don't then not so much.

Bmore Manning
12-23-2012, 03:12 PM
Peyton wasn't even able to throw a football not too many months ago. Peterson is facing 8 man fronts and having success, but if you watch the tape, Minnesota has such creative wrinkles in the run game. San Fran faces similar 8 man fronts, but Gore does not have the break away speed Peterson does, otherwise he would have lots of yards.

It's Peyton and its not even close. Peterson will not even break the rushing record, so how exactly does he deserve to be MVP?

OBF1
12-23-2012, 04:57 PM
Peyton wasn't even able to throw a football not too many months ago. Peterson is facing 8 man fronts and having success, but if you watch the tape, Minnesota has such creative wrinkles in the run game. San Fran faces similar 8 man fronts, but Gore does not have the break away speed Peterson does, otherwise he would have lots of yards.

It's Peyton and its not even close. Peterson will not even break the rushing record, so how exactly does he deserve to be MVP?

Flawed logic... What all time records is/did Peyton Manning break??? Denver made the playoffs last year with Tebow and the Vikings are playing with a crappy team excluding Peterson.

Denver will be left without a personal player award this year unless you count comeback player of the year as a major award. Let's hope we win what counts the most, The Lombardi.

Bmore Manning
12-23-2012, 05:13 PM
Flawed logic... What all time records is/did Peyton Manning break??? Denver made the playoffs last year with Tebow and the Vikings are playing with a crappy team excluding Peterson.

Denver will be left without a personal player award this year unless you count comeback player of the year as a major award. Let's hope we win what counts the most, The Lombardi.

Where is any logic in this post? Your making assumptions and ask what records did Peyton break. What record as AP broken? LOL

I'm gonna call you out when your wrong. This isn't fantasy football player of the year award. Present some kind of argument before you throw rocks, ok glass house?

MillerMayhem58
12-23-2012, 05:14 PM
A guy has his neck cut on 4 different times and I along with millions of other thought he was done. He not only came back but is the best QB in the NFL. 30+ tds over 4,000 yds passing and his team in SB position. neck vs knee.......The guy with the neck surgury had much more to overcome than your average knee injury. Oh BTW as I mentioned in the opening post, AP hasn't broke anything yet. I'm surprised so Bronco fans who watched a BETTER RB (TD) have a better season than AP's jumped on this media blitz party for AP. He is great but not MVP great

Gutless Drunk
12-23-2012, 05:18 PM
11 TD's = MVP ?

Bmore Manning
12-23-2012, 05:22 PM
Minnesota is winning as a team. The defense has been scoring TDs, Peterson is playing exceptional, and Ponder is doing enough. Peterson didn't score today, and didn't even break 100 yds, BUT THEY WON! Everybody needs to hope off APs nuts, if they don't make the playoffs AND he doesn't break the record, he has no chance. All of you talking about him like it's a lock.

I guess the Broncos would be 12-3 with Tebow this year too right?

Or who wants to talk about what Peterson has recovered from and how Manning's recovery is less than special, because I would like to go there!

Hamrob
12-23-2012, 05:48 PM
1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Aaron Rogers
4. AP

I don't care what any of you say......Manning, Rogers and Brady mean a hell of a lot more to their perspective teams that AP does to his..........let alone the league itself.

Heck, AP may not even crack the 2000 yard mark. Did Barry Sanders win NFL MVP when he ran for 2050?

Hamrob
12-23-2012, 05:49 PM
11 TD's = MVP ?You bet!

Eric Decker for MVP!!!!!:thumbs:

peacepipe
12-23-2012, 05:53 PM
1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Aaron Rogers
4. AP

I don't care what any of you say......Manning, Rogers and Brady mean a hell of a lot more to their perspective teams that AP does to his..........let alone the league itself.

Heck, AP may not even crack the 2000 yard mark. Did Barry Sanders win NFL MVP when he ran for 2050?

Yes,he & farve were named co-mvp.

Turd_Ferguson
12-23-2012, 06:45 PM
AP is the only thing making his team as good as they are, which means he makes them a team with a good defense barely good enough to get in the playoffs with ZERO chance of winning a Superbowl.

Manning makes his team a favorite to win the Superbowl. Without him they are a team with a good defense barely good enough to make the playoffs with ZERO chance of winning a Superbowl, or more simply put, THE VIKINGS.

Manning is more valuable to me because he gives his team a chance to win a Superbowl, which AP, as amazing as he clearly is, does not.

BroncoFox
12-23-2012, 07:33 PM
I don't understand how AP would get the vote. Who is most valuable to their team?

Who makes the defense AND special teams AND offense play better? Who coaches everyone, and makes sure the entire team is ready to play? It's not even close to me.

I'd happily give AP offensive player of the year. But the most valuable player to me is Peyton, simply because it's a lot more than just when he is taking snaps.

boltaneer
12-23-2012, 09:13 PM
"MVP" is so subjective because most teams have a player who they couldn't win without. And in years where a player is dominating, they usually win the award: LT's record year (28 rushing TDs) in 2006, Brady's record year (50 TDs) in 2007, etc.

AP carrying the Vikings on his back and breaking the rushing record would make him an easy shoe-in, especially in a year where he wasn't supposed to be close to 100% healthy.

This is a crazy year because of all the records that might fall with AP, Megatron and JJ Watt all having insane years.

errand
12-23-2012, 10:24 PM
Peterson coming back from a knee injury is a feel good story...however Manning missed an entire season, his team won 2 games in his absence, and then he gets released....his future was clouded with doubt that he'd even play again...and if he did would he be any good.....well he responded with one of his best seasons statistically, his new team is 12-3, are SB contenders, and silenced about 99% of his doubters.

boltaneer
12-23-2012, 10:47 PM
It's not about a comeback, a feel good story or even being the most valuable player anymore. This award has now become which player has had the best statistical year.

Unless he goes for 12 yards next week, I think he wins this hands down.

theAPAOps5
12-23-2012, 11:00 PM
It's not about a comeback, a feel good story or even being the most valuable player anymore. This award has now become which player has had the best statistical year.

Unless he goes for 12 yards next week, I think he wins this hands down.

I don't think he does. I thought Brady would screw both A.P. and Manning but he has sucked as of late. Not trying to be a homer but if AP doesn't break Dickersons record I think it's almost a let down the way it's been put in spotlight. I don't think Green Bay gets burned for 210 yards again like in their first season and he falls short. Again just my opinion.

If he does break it he seals the MVP. If he doesn't and Manning manages even an average game against the lowly Chiefs, then Manning is MVP.

boltaneer
12-23-2012, 11:05 PM
I doubt AP runs for 200 next week. But if he has a good game and leads the Vikings to a win, the MVP is his. It's his time.

Aftermath
12-23-2012, 11:36 PM
Manning might not even be the best QB this year. There is no other runningback like AP. Minnesotas defense is a joke. Opposing defenses know they are going to run all game and he still does work. The Broncos won a fricken playoff game with Tebow last year. Peyton Manning is THE MAN but c'mon. You guys basically think the award is Most Valuable Quarterback. If AP doesnt win this award then the reward should just be for the best quarterback every year. Rodgers and Brady are just as valuable as Manning.

Bacchus
12-23-2012, 11:49 PM
Manning might not even be the best QB this year. There is no other runningback like AP. Minnesotas defense is a joke. Opposing defenses know they are going to run all game and he still does work. The Broncos won a fricken playoff game with Tebow last year. Peyton Manning is THE MAN but c'mon. You guys basically think the award is Most Valuable Quarterback. If AP doesnt win this award then the reward should just be for the best quarterback every year. Rodgers and Brady are just as valuable as Manning.

The Vikings' defense is pretty good. They get turnovers. If Minnesota does not make the playoffs than how valuable is Peterson? If he wasn't there they still wouldn't make the playoffs.

If they beat the Packers next week and make the playoffs he deserves it.

All that being said Peterson did not have a good game Sunday and they still won on the road against Houston.

SoCalBronco
12-23-2012, 11:52 PM
I think Peterson would deserve it on the merits if he actually broke the record. To break the all time rushing mark coming off an ACL is a big deal and in terms of value, its likely that MIN would be a 2 win team without him. I think Manning is extremely deserving and he should win it unless Peterson actually breaks the record.

Durango
12-24-2012, 01:09 AM
If Peterson breaks the rushing rushing record, he probably will get MVP, but I think IF he does get MVP, the come-back award will go to Manning. If Manning wins the MVP, Peterson will get the come-back player award.

There's a chance they could be voted co-winners of either, or even both awards, but I just get the feeling that the people tht decide these things will give one to Manning and the other to Peterson.

Atwater His Ass
12-24-2012, 01:40 AM
The Broncos are a completely different team this year with Manning. Denver is now arguably the best team in the league, and definately the hottest. This is all due to Manning.

Although AP is having an impressive season, I don't think he's more vaulable to his team than Manning is to Denver.

I think Manning should win easily over Peterson. I think AP is better positioned to win offensive player of the year.

Bmore Manning
12-24-2012, 03:35 AM
Too many people have let fantasy football overcome actual football. CJ2K was dynamic a few short years ago.. Remember? Broke 2,000 yards.. Over 2,500 from scrimmage.. Guess who won MVP that year?

Early in the year everyone wanted to call Harvin the MVP, now we just hop to the next hot fad? Peterson isn't scoring enough TDs to single handedly beat teams! The defense has played very well during this playoff push, Ponder is doing enough in the passing game. Peterson is a freak, but he single handedly is not carrying the team, and if you think that it's because you only know fantasy football and you buy in to media hype.

jerseyguy4
12-24-2012, 06:36 AM
Here's the current poll results map from espn. What surprises! Ryan top pick in Georgia, Brady in the Northeast, and Rodgers in Wisconsin! :o

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2770/mvpmap.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/mvpmap.jpg/)

rmsanger
12-24-2012, 01:44 PM
A bunch of PFM homers in this forum so no proper discussion to be had here. PFM is the man but AP is not human!

SonOfLe-loLang
12-24-2012, 03:21 PM
Maybe I'm a homer, but I don't know how its not Manning. I'm not even sure how it's close.

Regardless of what the Broncos did last year, it seemed like a team in disarray, definitely one with a leadership void (sorry, Tebow). Peyton Manning came in here and established the Broncos not only as arguably the best team in football, but easily the most consistent. He's instilled a culture in Denver that is incredibly efficient and professional. Gone are the days of "trap games" and letdowns. John Fox said it best: His teammates are afraid to let him down because of how he works, prepares, and succeeds. They want to be on his level. Combine that with his weekly systematic evisceration of the opponent's defense (we're already spoiled by this), his gaudy stats, and that's he's done this with a new team and a new city....this isnt even close. This is Peyton's award.

SonOfLe-loLang
12-24-2012, 03:24 PM
A bunch of PFM homers in this forum so no proper discussion to be had here. PFM is the man but AP is not human!

This is not a question of whether or not AD's season was great (especially considering his injury.) The Broncos were an 8-8 team that was lucky not to be 5-11, and now they are the best team in football. What's the main difference here? ONE ****ing guy.

Elway 4 Life
12-24-2012, 03:30 PM
Manning might not even be the best QB this year. There is no other runningback like AP. Minnesotas defense is a joke. Opposing defenses know they are going to run all game and he still does work. The Broncos won a fricken playoff game with Tebow last year. Peyton Manning is THE MAN but c'mon. You guys basically think the award is Most Valuable Quarterback. If AP doesnt win this award then the reward should just be for the best quarterback every year. Rodgers and Brady are just as valuable as Manning.

The Colts won 2 games without Manning last year. The Patriots won 11 or 12 games with Cassell in Brady's absence. Brady is a great QB but not as valuable as Manning or Rogers to there perspective teams.

bombay
12-24-2012, 03:52 PM
There is no question at all that Manning is more valuable to his team than Peterson is. Manning is a coach on the field, gets the very best out of his teammates, and has led his team to a 13 win season, a bye week in the playoffs, and very possibly to a spot in the superbowl.

Peterson is the feel good story, having an outstanding season when his health was very much in doubt. He's not a guy who lifts players around him, and whether they even make the playoffs is up in the air.

This isn't a tough decision at all. Comeback player? Peterson could certainly win that.

CPA
12-24-2012, 03:57 PM
Had Peyton and AP on my championship fantasy team this year. So, based on that, give MVP and CBPY to both.