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enjolras
12-11-2012, 01:29 PM
Courtesy of Reddit:

http://i.imgur.com/UtYVM.png

TheReverend
12-11-2012, 01:34 PM
It reads funny, but he's just trying to intimate how successful lower seeds have been overcoming a lack of home field advantage.

Really poorly expressed for sure, though

ColoradoDarin
12-11-2012, 01:38 PM
Also, Super Bowl Champions are 46-0 in the Super Bowl.

sinuous sausage
12-11-2012, 01:44 PM
Over the years, winning teams have complied a 1.000 winning percentage in the month of December.

Kaylore
12-11-2012, 02:10 PM
Super Bowl winners are undefeated in their final game of the playoffs going back to 1993.

Kid A
12-11-2012, 02:25 PM
It reads funny, but he's just trying to intimate how successful lower seeds have been overcoming a lack of home field advantage.

Really poorly expressed for sure, though

For it to make sense we need a point of comparison. Like "Pre-2005 Super Bowl winners had won a combined X games on the road. Super Bowl winners since 2005 have won 12."

broncosteven
12-11-2012, 02:26 PM
Peter King also calls up SB winners who were low seeds and tells them they shouldn't have been in the SB.

broncocalijohn
12-11-2012, 02:39 PM
That was the most moronic stat ever! How can you argue with that powerful statistic?

He should have told us about the guy that does the "I'm going to Disneyland!" commercial was 100% of the time on the winning team. True fact.

BroncoHI
12-11-2012, 02:46 PM
Also, Super Bowl Champions are 46-0 in the Super Bowl.

I disagree

Steelers were Super Bowl champions after they lost to the Seahawks

Tombstone RJ
12-11-2012, 02:55 PM
doh!

ColoradoDarin
12-11-2012, 03:01 PM
I disagree

Steelers were Super Bowl champions after they lost to the Seahawks

Nice try, but the refs won that matchup.

TheReverend
12-11-2012, 03:03 PM
Super Bowl winners are undefeated in their final game of the playoffs going back to 1993.

Oh screw it.

Super Bowl winners are also undefeated in their FIRST game of the playoffs dating back even earlier than 2004.

TheReverend
12-11-2012, 03:04 PM
Little known NFL fact:

- No Super Bowl Champion has ever lost a Divisional Round Playoff Game

Kaylore
12-11-2012, 03:07 PM
Little known NFL fact:

- No Super Bowl Champion has ever lost a Divisional Round Playoff Game

Since 1987.

mkporter
12-11-2012, 03:43 PM
I will probably regret being serious in this thread, but I can see that not everyone understands the significance of the statistic (and it does have significance), so here goes:

Was:
-Low seeds rule: Since 2005, Super bowl winners are 12-0 on the road in the playoffs.

Should be:
-Low seeds rule: Since 2005, Super bowl winners have played in 12 road games in the playoffs, an average of almost 2 per year.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
12-11-2012, 03:57 PM
the team with the most points when the game ends wins the superbowl.

last time kansas city went to the superbowl they just came out with this fancy new type of tv it showed moving pictures in color.
also little know fact. the inventor of the color tv was burned at the stake during half time of that last superbowl appearance because everyone thought he be a witch

DONT GO CALLING ME CRAZY. KANSAS CITY WENT TO A SUPERBOWL I KNOW THEY DID I SAW CAVE DRAWINGS THAT PROVED THEY DID

gyldenlove
12-11-2012, 04:58 PM
Actually that quote makes a lot of sense. Since 2005 the most away games a super bowl team could possible play is 21 (7 years times 3 away playoff games per season). On average a team plays 0.83 away games in the playoffs per year (5 away games per 6 teams), that means in 7 seasons the Super bowl champ can be expected to have played in 6 away games and obviously would have won them all. The actual number is twice the expectation value indicating that the super bowl winning team has had a much lower than expected seed in several of the last 7 seasons.

sinuous sausage
12-11-2012, 05:26 PM
'Twas poorly phrased. It is redundant to introduce the outcome of the away playoff game when referring to Super Bowl victors. The Mane is full of logicians, so it makes sense they'd cavil about wasted words and redundancy.

Dr. Broncenstein
12-11-2012, 06:17 PM
Low seed teams are made with bits of real panther, so you know they're good.

Mile High Salute
12-11-2012, 06:39 PM
Low seed teams are made with bits of real panther, so you know they're good.

50 percent of the time, Peter King's stats work EVERY time.

Mile High Salute
12-11-2012, 06:42 PM
"You know, the goal of football is to score more points than the other team. If you do that, you win the game."

"You score a touchdown, you know, that's six points."

- John Madden LOL

broncosteven
12-11-2012, 07:02 PM
Actually that quote makes a lot of sense. Since 2005 the most away games a super bowl team could possible play is 21 (7 years times 3 away playoff games per season). On average a team plays 0.83 away games in the playoffs per year (5 away games per 6 teams), that means in 7 seasons the Super bowl champ can be expected to have played in 6 away games and obviously would have won them all. The actual number is twice the expectation value indicating that the super bowl winning team has had a much lower than expected seed in several of the last 7 seasons.

This post made my head hurt, Can't we just have some more posts were we just point at kFc fans and laugh?

Or talk about relativity that would be easier than figuring out what Peter King is trying to say.

broncosteven
12-11-2012, 07:09 PM
Low seed teams are made with bits of real panther, so you know they're good.

Only before 1999, after that they started using synthetic panther called polycarbohydratediglyceridepanthera, the kosher version is called polycarbohydratediglyceridehaitalpanthera in the event Joshua is interested.

bowtown
12-11-2012, 07:31 PM
Oh screw it.

Super Bowl winners are also undefeated in their FIRST game of the playoffs dating back even earlier than 2004.

Even more remarkable: no team that has started the post season at 0-1 has gone on to win the Super Bowl OR the Conference Championship. Those are crazy odds.

TD4HOF
12-11-2012, 07:36 PM
There's no documented occurrence of a homicide victim ever talking to police.

Mile High Salute
12-11-2012, 09:55 PM
There's no documented occurrence of a homicide victim ever talking to police.

According to Peter King, 100% of the people who've shot themselves in the head have only used one bullet.

ZONA
12-11-2012, 10:34 PM
According to Peter King, San Diego means a whales vagina

Chris
12-11-2012, 10:51 PM
Actually that quote makes a lot of sense. Since 2005 the most away games a super bowl team could possible play is 21 (7 years times 3 away playoff games per season). On average a team plays 0.83 away games in the playoffs per year (5 away games per 6 teams), that means in 7 seasons the Super bowl champ can be expected to have played in 6 away games and obviously would have won them all. The actual number is twice the expectation value indicating that the super bowl winning team has had a much lower than expected seed in several of the last 7 seasons.

what the **** math class

bowtown
12-12-2012, 12:09 AM
No scone that Peter has paid for at Starbucks has not then passed his fat lips and later been digested and dumped out in an acidic brew of Vente Latte and colon residue.

sinuous sausage
12-12-2012, 06:52 AM
Actually that quote makes a lot of sense. Since 2005 the most away games a super bowl team could possible play is 21 (7 years times 3 away playoff games per season). On average a team plays 0.83 away games in the playoffs per year (5 away games per 6 teams), that means in 7 seasons the Super bowl champ can be expected to have played in 6 away games and obviously would have won them all. The actual number is twice the expectation value indicating that the super bowl winning team has had a much lower than expected seed in several of the last 7 seasons.

you have to integrate the inverse of the third imaginary differential. carry that function's one and then cross-multiply the matrices

LRtagger
12-12-2012, 06:58 AM
Make sure Steven A Scott gives him credit for this stat on twitter

Mile High Salute
12-12-2012, 07:43 AM
Make sure Steven A Scott gives him credit for this stat on twitter

...don't forget about Bob Belichick.

(Copyright, Donald Trump Hilarious!)

Mile High Salute
12-12-2012, 07:44 AM
No scone that Peter has paid for at Starbucks has not then passed his fat lips and later been digested and dumped out in an acidic brew of Vente Latte and colon residue.

100 percent of the time, Peter King chooses fries over salad. LOL

Bacchus
12-12-2012, 04:12 PM
Courtesy of Reddit:

http://i.imgur.com/UtYVM.png

King picked the Broncos to go to the SB in the preseason, Idiot? I think not.

errand
12-12-2012, 06:09 PM
King picked the Broncos to go to the SB in the preseason, Idiot? I think not.

Oh, that was the only time he wasn't an idiot.....

enjolras
12-12-2012, 09:41 PM
King picked the Broncos to go to the SB in the preseason, Idiot? I think not.

He probably made the pick mid-stroke.

Bacchus
12-12-2012, 10:12 PM
He probably made the pick mid-stroke.

No one else had the forsight to pick Denver.

BroncoBuff
12-12-2012, 10:20 PM
Yeah, sounds stupid at first, but it's not really. Those numbers are shocking really ... if they're true.

Here's my breakdown: 12 road games for the last 7 SB Champs. That's 1.72 road games each - out of JUST 2 PLAYOFF GAMES! Unless a road Wild-Card berth has won the SB in that period, maybe there's one.

I suppose King might be counting the 2012 Super Bowl winner already, which ups the divider from 7 to 8, but still it's more than 1 1/2 road games for each winner.

Something's wrong there :nono:

enjolras
12-12-2012, 11:28 PM
Yeah, sounds stupid at first, but it's not really. Those numbers are shocking really ... if they're true.

Here's my breakdown: 12 road games for the last 7 SB Champs. That's 1.72 road games each - out of JUST 2 PLAYOFF GAMES! Unless a road Wild-Card berth has won the SB in that period, maybe there's one.

I suppose King might be counting the 2012 Super Bowl winner already, which ups the divider from 7 to 8, but still it's more than 1 1/2 road games for each winner.

Something's wrong there :nono:

The 2010 Packers and the 2005 Steelers both were 6th seeds I believe.

BroncoBuff
12-13-2012, 07:49 AM
The 2010 Packers and the 2005 Steelers both were 6th seeds I believe.

Okay thanks for that, the numbers actually make sense now: With those two teams accounting for 6 of the 12 road wins, there's just 6 roadies left to split between the other 5 champs (6 champs if he's including the 2012 winner already).

That means these other 5 (or 6) eventual champs were seeded #2 on average, right where I'd expect SB winners to have been seeded on average. So King's story is NOT about a "lengthy pattern of low seed success," it's just the story of two SB winners that road-warriored thru 3 away games to get there. IT'S NOT EVEN THAT, the Steelers 3 wins and SB win should not factor into this because of the officiating mess.

So finally we're through the whole thing ... and come out on the other end only to conclude the thread title was right all along ;D

GoHAM
12-13-2012, 08:02 AM
The 2010 Packers and the 2005 Steelers both were 6th seeds I believe.

2007 Giants were a wildcard team too, 5th seed I think.

mwill07
12-13-2012, 08:07 AM
You know, it's so easy to look it up: (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/)

2011: Giants won two road games as 4th seed.
2010: Packers won three road games as 6th seed.
2009: Saints played zero road games as 1st seed.
2008: Steelers played zero road games as 2nd seed.
2007: Giants played three road games as 5th seed.
2006: Colts played one road game as 3th seed.
2005: Steelers played three road games as 6th seed.

So there you have it: 12 road games played by the past 7 SB champs, nine of which came from three teams.

What’s more impressive, I think, is that out of the past 28 teams to secure a first round bye, only two were eventual SB champs.

BroncoBuff
12-13-2012, 08:24 AM
gylden I follow your math, but it seems needlessly complicated to me. Does mine seem hopelessly simplistic to you? :wave:

______


Can't go ten seconds on this topic without memories of that greatest of all Broncos squads warmly washing over .... there will never be, can never be another 1997 Denver Broncos. Led the league in points and yards ... from man 1 to 11, best offense in league history ... 3 in the Hall, 3 on the way, plus the best blocking fullback in the modern era. Aaahhhhh ... sooo waaaaarm :sunshine: ....

and oh yeah the three-week playoff revenge tour, calmly beat three straight teams, two right in their own crap-can buildings ... and then the super bowl in san diego, but i'm warm enough for now

BroncoBuff
12-13-2012, 08:26 AM
Peter I have a question .... where do I go to get the last hour of my life back?

Kaylore
12-13-2012, 09:10 AM
Peter I have a question .... where do I go to get the last hour of my life back?

The same place that Bowtown is saying all those scones go.

Jason in LA
12-13-2012, 09:51 AM
For it to make sense we need a point of comparison. Like "Pre-2005 Super Bowl winners had won a combined X games on the road. Super Bowl winners since 2005 have won 12."

Yep, a better explanation would have made his stat make more sense. I'm assuming that he is saying that Super Bowl winners have come from lower seeds more often over the past several years, meaning that they have had to win more road games.

When I first read the stat, my thought was "no s&*t homie, of course they're undefeated." lol