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Action
12-07-2012, 04:52 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8724985/darnell-dockett-arizona-cardinals-fined-amount-six-figures-according-source

Denver Broncos linebacker Von Miller was fined $25,000 for roughing the passer last week. Miller was fined for striking the quarterback below the knee area.

This was against the Bucs when he went low on Freeman.

UberBroncoMan
12-07-2012, 04:55 PM
LOL! I remember when Freeman was all smiles and LOL'ing after that play too. What a crock of ****.

baja
12-07-2012, 04:56 PM
This is getting sickening

SouthStndJunkie
12-07-2012, 04:59 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/07/von-millers-25000-fine-raises-specter-of-suspension/

Von Miller’s $25,000 fine raises specter of suspension

Houshyamama
12-07-2012, 05:00 PM
If he gets suspended for these namby pamby bubble-boy QB calls, I'm going to punch a baby in the throat. Goodell's baby.

Punisher
12-07-2012, 05:03 PM
25k That's nothing for The Rolex wearing, diamond ring wearing, Jet Flying, Limousine Driving Von Miller!

Action
12-07-2012, 05:16 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/07/von-millers-25000-fine-raises-specter-of-suspension/

Von Millerís $25,000 fine raises specter of suspension

The NFL has confirmed that Miller was fined $25,000 for striking Buccaneers quarterback Josh Freeman below the knee area last week. Miller, who was given a 15-yard penalty for that hit on Freeman, has now been fined enough times for illegal hits that he risks the NFL deciding that fines just arenít getting the message through to him, and that suspensions are next.

Among Millerís other fines: He was fined $21,000 for a hit on Cam Newton last month. He was fined $7,500 for a late hit against the Patriots in the playoffs in January. He was fined $25,000 for a hit on Mark Sanchez in November of 2011. And he was fined $15,000 for a hit on Carson Palmer in November of 2011.

Thatís five fines in Millerís last 24 games.
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That's $93,500 in fines for 5 games and he hasn't even accumulated 2 seasons.

Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!

Goodell or whomever is in charge of these fines can suck a fat dick though.

Only thing that worries me is the suspension. Otherwise, I could care less... it's not like Von is a dirty player. Von plays the game clean as I've seen...no cheap shots.

I still can't believe he got fined 25k for that Mark Sanchez hit... damn shame.

El Guapo
12-07-2012, 05:28 PM
The comments under that article make me want to puke. Miller is in no way dirty, much less comparable to Harrison or Ed Reed. I also hate that people are saying this, "But he won’t get suspended because he plays for the NFL’s new little darlings…and they get away with cheap shots more than most."

That's funny because I have always felt the complete opposite. I feel like we get an absurd number of wrongful penalties marked against us because we are not a team located in the northeast/east coast.

Bigdawg26
12-07-2012, 05:30 PM
25k That's nothing for The Rolex wearing, diamond ring wearing, Jet Flying, Limousine Driving Von Miller!

I hope you realized he's still on a rookie pay scaled salary!

Mogulseeker
12-07-2012, 05:32 PM
25k That's nothing for The Rolex wearing, diamond ring wearing, Jet Flying, Limousine Driving, energy drink drinking, porn-star ****ing Von Miller!

FYP

Jetmeck
12-07-2012, 05:36 PM
BS plain and simple....ANYONE watching that play can see he wasn't trying to purposely go low................

Punisher
12-07-2012, 05:44 PM
FYP

http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/1945966/81499113.gif

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
12-07-2012, 05:54 PM
25k That's nothing for The Rolex wearing, diamond ring wearing, Jet Flying, Limousine Driving Von Miller!

Of course. Its not your money. A-hole. BTW, I thought this was football not soccer.

SonOfLe-loLang
12-07-2012, 06:12 PM
I'd love to know what he was supposed to do on that play?

HorseHead
12-07-2012, 06:24 PM
This is getting re-god-damn-diculous...

extralife
12-07-2012, 07:02 PM
he's never been called dirty by anyone, and yet the league has seen fit to fine him five times. good to know.

that "hit" on Freeman wasn't anything. he barely touched him. ****.

Drunken.Broncoholic
12-07-2012, 07:06 PM
Goodell just wants Miller to go about 80% effort.


**** this pansy pussy pink football league.

Greatspirits
12-07-2012, 07:08 PM
That's Bolchevilk!

Kid A
12-07-2012, 07:48 PM
I'd love to know what he was supposed to do on that play?

Seriously. And I get why they call the penalty. It sucks, but I can see why the league really wants to force teams to avoid hitting QBs low. That's why you levy a 15 yd penalty.

What I don't understand is why every personal foul penalty (at least by defensive players) now equals a hefty fine, tally toward a suspension. Seems like fines used to mean something different, and indication of a player obviously playing out of line purposefully, etc. Now it might as well be announce by the ref along with the flag. Very weird.

Fedaykin
12-07-2012, 08:04 PM
Only reason to ever levy a FINE (multiple leading up to a suspension) is if a particular action was intending to cause harm or demonstrated gross negligence.

Von has never done that; It's quite absurd that he's getting this kind of treatment.

It's a contact sport: **** happens.

Bronco X
12-07-2012, 08:10 PM
What is it with league commissioners? It's impossible for anyone to sink into the complete void of integrity that Stern wallows in, but Goodell is making a case he deserves comparison a place near the depths that Bettman lies in.

BroncoMan4ever
12-07-2012, 08:34 PM
If he gets suspended for these namby pamby bubble-boy QB calls, I'm going to punch a baby in the throat. Goodell's baby.

Cut out the middle man(baby) and just throat punch Goodell

dictionary
12-07-2012, 11:36 PM
To be honest, from a policy/legal/contract standpoint, future contracts for defensive players (for smart BD oriented agents) will clause the **** out of this in the future--to be clear, hits=$; let the glasses sort it out.

uplink
12-08-2012, 02:00 AM
I thought the replay showed the Bucs blocker directed Miller trajectory down and that is why he ended up hitting low. It even looked like Miller tried to ease off as much as he could when he realized the trajectory adjustment was going to take him low on the QB.

Irish Stout
12-08-2012, 07:51 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/07/von-millers-25000-fine-raises-specter-of-suspension/

Von Millerís $25,000 fine raises specter of suspension

Most of the commenters under this article have never seen Von play or do not understand the difference in magnitude of danger to QBs from the Harrison hits compared to the Miller hits. The Freeman one is BS.

Rohirrim
12-08-2012, 08:39 AM
The continuing wimpification of the NFL.

Beantown Bronco
12-08-2012, 09:04 AM
I hope you realized he's still on a rookie pay scaled salary!

Signed a four-year, $21 million contract. The deal is fully guaranteed, including a $13.7 million signing bonus. 2012: $1,329,563, 2013: $2,284,125, 2014: $3,238,688

Yup, that rookie contract is obviously killing him.

gyldenlove
12-08-2012, 09:20 AM
I'd love to know what he was supposed to do on that play?

He was supposed to not rush the passer, pass rush is one of the most effective way of stopping QBs from passing for 10.000 yards per season which would allow Fox and CBS to put even more Coors light commercials on TV which would generate even more revenue which would mean even bigger yachts for the NFL owners.

ScottXray
12-08-2012, 09:48 AM
These fines for every ticky tack personal foul tha's called
( and some that aren't but video reviewed later) are getting
rediculous. Goodell needs to be checked by the owners on this
crap, which is getting out of hand.

The players have some legitimate beefs and there needs to be a review board of owners or player reps that can overide the fines when there is no apparent INTENT to injure or be reckless.

Sometimes Shyt just happens, and you shouldn't be fined after the
team has already been penalised during a game., usually for something ticky tack.

I don't think the owners realise that fans are starting to get POed at these
stupid fines for routine plays. Most fans do NOT want the play to be pussified any more and already feel the defenses are being ham strung too much.

And since video reviews can still get you fined even when a penalty is not called, when are they going to start fining or penalising offensive players for stuff they do?

Lestat
12-08-2012, 10:20 AM
good lord i swear Harrison was right. they're trying to make this damn flag football or something or if you hit the QB you have to put a soft pillow on the ground to do it.

if this was malicious or Suh type of patter of behavior then sure fine him. but Von hasn't done anything wrong that they still keep on with this BS.

lonestar
12-08-2012, 11:56 AM
Signed a four-year, $21 million contract. The deal is fully guaranteed, including a $13.7 million signing bonus. 2012: $1,329,563, 2013: $2,284,125, 2014: $3,238,688

Yup, that rookie contract is obviously killing him.

After federal taxes, add to that state, perhaps local city taxes, agent fees and that 21 mil is closer to 55% of that. While still a lot of money I'm sure his cost of living lifestyle being elevated over that past 8 months. Unless he invests wisely he runs the same risk as most NFL players of being bankrupt within 5 years of his retirement..

I know nothing of his lifestyle other than IIRC he likes strippers and Vegas. These fines just might make an impact on those deals.

I have always sided with the NFL on safety, resisting the homer fan instincts, but on this one I hope he appeals it and if he does he should win it, from what I've seen on it.

lonestar
12-08-2012, 12:06 PM
These fines for every ticky tack personal foul tha's called
( and some that aren't but video reviewed later) are getting
rediculous. Goodell needs to be checked by the owners on this
crap, which is getting out of hand.

The players have some legitimate beefs and there needs to be a review board of owners or player reps that can overide the fines when there is no apparent INTENT to injure or be reckless.

Sometimes Shyt just happens, and you shouldn't be fined after the
team has already been penalised during a game., usually for something ticky tack.

I don't think the owners realise that fans are starting to get POed at these
stupid fines for routine plays. Most fans do NOT want the play to be pussified any more and already feel the defenses are being ham strung too much.

And since video reviews can still get you fined even when a penalty is not called, when are they going to start fining or penalising offensive players for stuff they do?


Yet it was the owners that made the rule, gave Goodels minions the authority to fine players that break the rules.

The rules are in place to stop the owners players from getting injured, the hundreds of millions of salaries of players that are being paid each year for setting on the bench, being in rehab and the medical costs of such cheap hits.

So do they think calming the game down is a better idea, hopefully extending those careers vs satisfying the bloodlust of a few fans. As an owner what would you do.

Knowing that your hundred million dollar QB and your guaranteed money is subject to cheap hits. What would you do.

Myself I'm going to protect my investment. If I lose some fans to WWF, ilet them go.

Agamemnon
12-08-2012, 02:22 PM
This league is turning into pure **** under Roger Goodell. Pure ****.

Action
12-08-2012, 05:14 PM
Yet it was the owners that made the rule, gave Goodels minions the authority to fine players that break the rules.

The rules are in place to stop the owners players from getting injured, the hundreds of millions of salaries of players that are being paid each year for setting on the bench, being in rehab and the medical costs of such cheap hits.

So do they think calming the game down is a better idea, hopefully extending those careers vs satisfying the bloodlust of a few fans. As an owner what would you do.

Knowing that your hundred million dollar QB and your guaranteed money is subject to cheap hits. What would you do.

Myself I'm going to protect my investment. If I lose some fans to WWF, ilet them go.

I know you're trying to rationalize from the owners perspective, as if everyone in the owner's position would do the same but you actually sound like a puppet.

Obviously, owners don't want to lose their star players. However, it doesn't take away the fact that this has gone too far and too extreme to the point where plays that have LITTLE TO NO RISK OF INJURY, are getting fined.

As an owner, I'd obviously support the new rules to protect to the QBs but the point is that it has gone too far, which you don't simply don't understand because you think you can rationalize everything.

lonestar
12-08-2012, 05:40 PM
I know you're trying to rationalize from the owners perspective, as if everyone in the owner's position would do the same but you actually sound like a puppet.

Obviously, owners don't want to lose their star players. However, it doesn't take away the fact that this has gone too far and too extreme to the point where plays that have LITTLE TO NO RISK OF INJURY, are getting fined.

As an owner, I'd obviously support the new rules to protect to the QBs but the point is that it has gone too far, which you don't simply don't understand because you think you can rationalize everything.

Having been in management for almost 5 decades one does look at things differently.

Not only is it the theat of losing a superstar for the year if not the career but there are also huge lawsuits pending as we speak.

If they appear to be weak on injuries they eat billions of dollars in fines and settlements.

As I said in another post I think if he appeals that one gets reversed. But it will probably cost him 10 grabs in leagal fees.
The threat if suspension will be the reason to win the appeal.

I can see the conspiracy folks going big crap now if he gets suspended for any play off games especially if it is against NE.

This place will go nuts.

Action
12-08-2012, 05:43 PM
Having been in management for almost 5 decades one does look at things differently.

Not only is it the theat of losing a superstar for the year if not the career but there are also huge lawsuits pending as we speak.

If they appear to be weak on injuries they eat billions of dollars in fines and settlements.

As I said in another post I think if he appeals that one gets reversed. But it will probably cost him 10 grabs in leagal fees.
The threat if suspension will be the reason to win the appeal.

I can see the conspiracy folks going big crap now if he gets suspended for any play off games especially if it is against NE.

This place will go nuts.

What you said simply does not have anything to do with my post. You could have just posted this without quoting me. :rofl:

lonestar
12-08-2012, 05:57 PM
What you said simply does not have anything to do with my post. You could have just posted this without quoting me. :rofl:

Now perhaps you missed your last sentence about rationalizing the actions.

That was what I was responding to. Next time IF I quote you I will delete all of the post that was not what I was responding to so you are not confused.

Action
12-08-2012, 06:40 PM
Now perhaps you missed your last sentence about rationalizing the actions.

That was what I was responding to. Next time IF I quote you I will delete all of the post that was not what I was responding to so you are not confused.

... no you really didn't add anything to the conversation. Your post in response to mine was as repetitive as the first without adding anything.

Shoo fly, go on now.

lonestar
12-08-2012, 08:03 PM
... no you really didn't add anything to the conversation. Your post in response to mine was as repetitive as the first without adding anything.

Shoo fly, go on now.

Wow, you are funny tough guy.

If you did not notice anything different.

RIF.

baja
12-08-2012, 08:54 PM
What you said simply does not have anything to do with my post. You could have just posted this without quoting me. :rofl:


Actually this is his point and he never misses a chance to make it no matter how vague the opportunity.

Originally Posted by lonestar
Having been in management for almost 5 decades one does look at things differently.

Bronco X
12-08-2012, 11:23 PM
RIF.

You don't got many other snarky responses do you? If I had to use that for every other post, I'd probably start wondering if I am actually communicating effectively as a writer. Just saying...

Action
12-08-2012, 11:37 PM
Actually this is his point and he never misses a chance to make it no matter how vague the opportunity.

I kind of ignored that part of the post as it doesn't really mean anything.

He could easily be the intern of a Manager's Assistant Manager... for 5 years. Or he could be in management at a fast food joint.

Who knows... it really doesn't matter, lonestar doesn't post or type in any coherent manner that convinces me he really does anything important.

lonestar
12-08-2012, 11:59 PM
I kind of ignored that part of the post as it doesn't really mean anything.

He could easily be the intern of a Manager's Assistant Manager... for 5 years. Or he could be in management at a fast food joint.

Who knows... it really doesn't matter, lonestar doesn't post or type in any coherent manner that convinces me he really does anything important.

Wow is that the pot calling the kettle black or what?

RIF
Obviously you have never read any of my posts.

BTW almost five decades is not 5 years. But that shows you still do not have a clue..

g6matty
12-09-2012, 12:52 AM
Wats rif

lonestar
12-09-2012, 02:37 AM
What is rif

Fixed that for you.

Reading is fundamental.

Thought they would have taught to you last year in fourth grade.

lonestar
12-09-2012, 02:39 AM
Wow, that easier than most of the time.

baja
12-09-2012, 07:25 AM
Wow, that easier than most of the time.

Post a picture of yourself. I want to see what a mover and shaker looks like.

kappys
12-09-2012, 07:28 AM
Having been in management for almost 5 decades one does look at things differently.

Not only is it the theat of losing a superstar for the year if not the career but there are also huge lawsuits pending as we speak.

If they appear to be weak on injuries they eat billions of dollars in fines and settlements.

As I said in another post I think if he appeals that one gets reversed. But it will probably cost him 10 grabs in leagal fees.
The threat if suspension will be the reason to win the appeal.

I can see the conspiracy folks going big crap now if he gets suspended for any play off games especially if it is against NE.

This place will go nuts.

I would be stunned if VM got suspended for a playoff game - he is a national figure and gets recognition from all corners. Even non-bronco fans love to watch him play and abuse opposing D-linemen - I don't tink Goddell would risk it unless he does something heinous.

Far more likely he could get suspended for the last regular season game or the NFL hears the appeal, defers it long enough so that the ruling affects a game next season

bowtown
12-09-2012, 07:40 AM
I didn't realize Pizza Hut has been around for five decades.

swaiy
12-09-2012, 07:46 AM
They should be fining Manny Ramirez for pretending to be a guard.

ScottXray
12-09-2012, 07:53 AM
I would be stunned if VM got suspended for a playoff game - he is a national figure and gets recognition from all corners. Even non-bronco fans love to watch him play and abuse opposing D-linemen - I don't tink Goddell would risk it unless he does something heinous.

Far more likely he could get suspended for the last regular season game or the NFL hears the appeal, defers it long enough so that the ruling affects a game next season

They have already announced the fine, with NO suspension ( this time).
The problem is they probably will try to suspend him if another play like that
happens, and it seems there is no looking at the actual game film , just
"Oh, another personal foul...this guy must be dirty! Fine or Suspend him so he gets the message, that we can't have Dirty plays in the NFL."

And as an owner, don't you think that the commisioner trying to take one of your best players away for a game, or multiple games, is important to you?

Sure the owners gave Goodell the authority to do these things ... That doesn't mean that they can't see he is trying to put his own stamp on the NFL, and that it is being unreasonably done..

If I were the owners I would first form a comittee to review these fines and suspensions to determine if they are reasonable or directly due to intent, and not just circumstance, and also put some language in every future contract that the game is a violent physical game and, while the league will take reasonable steps to try to ensure player safety and health before and after playing, it is an inherent part of the game, and the player assumes ALL risks when they step on the field.

kappys
12-09-2012, 07:56 AM
They have already announced the fine, with NO suspension ( this time).
The problem is they probably will try to suspend him if another play like that
happens, and it seems there is no looking at the actual game film , just
"Oh, another personal foul...this guy must be dirty! Fine or Suspend him so he gets the message, that we can't have Dirty plays in the NFL."

And as an owner, don't you think that the commisioner trying to take one of your best players away for a game, or multiple games, is important to you?

Sure the owners gave Goodell the authority to do these things ... That doesn't mean that they can't see he is trying to put his own stamp on the NFL, and that it is being unreasonably done..

If I were the owners I would first form a comittee to review these fines and suspensions to determine if they are reasonable or directly due to intent, and not just circumstance, and also put some language in every future contract that the game is a violent physical game and, while the league will take reasonable steps to try to ensure player safety and health before and after playing, it is an inherent part of the game, and the player assumes ALL risks when they step on the field.

The Owners are all interested in protecting QB's as much as possible - that said I am simply commenting that I think any suspensions would be very unlikely to affect playoff games unless there is a really dirty play - mostly because of the national dismay at not being able to see Von Miller. The NFL in that case would probably quitely hear the appeal and defer judgement until the postseason is done.

Of course if something happens next week they could easily take Von away from a regular season game

Rock Chalk
12-09-2012, 08:55 AM
This league is turning into pure **** under Roger Goodell. Pure ****.

I take it then you are leaving us and no longer goign to watch "pure ****"?

http://gifsoup.com/view/775686/well-bye-o.gif

lonestar
12-09-2012, 10:59 AM
The Owners are all interested in protecting QB's as much as possible - that said I am simply commenting that I think any suspensions would be very unlikely to affect playoff games unless there is a really dirty play - mostly because of the national dismay at not being able to see Von Miller. The NFL in that case would probably quitely hear the appeal and defer judgement until the postseason is done.

Of course if something happens next week they could easily take Von away from a regular season game

You are probably correct, I was just throwing out a scenario of an OM melt down because it would be against what most feel here is the NFLs FAV new England. Servers fired, data base destroyed because of all the pissing and moaning going on.

I also said if he was suspended from what I have seen in the last one the odds of him getting it overturned would be good.

Bronco Yoda
12-09-2012, 11:43 AM
What a bunch of BS. Anyone watching the play could tell he was trying to hurt anyone.