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Jetmeck
12-06-2012, 09:15 PM
We should have buried this loser Raider team early and often.

We got some more work to do..................

Doggcow
12-06-2012, 09:16 PM
Oh **** off.

Al Wilson
12-06-2012, 09:17 PM
I don't think we had a bad game. I think we had a good game; the only problem was the few mistakes in the redzone. Almost every drive the offense was marching down the field.

Bacchus
12-06-2012, 09:18 PM
We should have buried this loser Raider team early and often.

We got some more work to do..................

It really depends if Denver scores more points than the other team.

Jetmeck
12-06-2012, 09:18 PM
Oh **** off.

Your an idiot if you think that effort would work on Houston, NE or
possibly even the Ravens.

Grow up asshole................

Jetmeck
12-06-2012, 09:19 PM
It really depends if Denver scores more points than the other team.

You too...........pull your blinders off.

Better yet tune into the experts backing me up on NFLN.

Some of you clowns wear orange colores glasses.

Archer81
12-06-2012, 09:20 PM
Raiders defense came to play in the RZ. Considering Allen's familiarity with most of the Broncos players, this cannot be a surprise. It was a dogfight, we scored more than they did.

A win is a win.

:Broncos:

Jetmeck
12-06-2012, 09:21 PM
I don't think we had a bad game. I think we had a good game; the only problem was the few mistakes in the redzone. Almost every drive the offense was marching down the field.


FGs against a good offense will get us defeated.....period.

3rd and longs won't get converted regularly against a good defense.

You guys better wake up.

Agamemnon
12-06-2012, 09:23 PM
FGs against a good offense will get us defeated.....period.

3rd and longs won't get converted regularly against a good defense.

You guys better wake up.

We've had no real redzone issues before tonight. Get over it.

Archer81
12-06-2012, 09:23 PM
FGs against a good offense will get us defeated.....period.

3rd and longs won't get converted regularly against a good defense.

You guys better wake up.


Sarcasm?

I am amazed at the "world is ending" nature of alot of these threads post victory. We've won 8 straight. So clearly Denver is doing enough to win, regardless of situations or one unit having an off day.

:Broncos:

Bronco X
12-06-2012, 09:23 PM
I was actually glad to see Prater quell his mini slump.

Bacchus
12-06-2012, 09:25 PM
You too...........pull your blinders off.

Better yet tune into the experts backing me up on NFLN.

Some of you clowns wear orange colores glasses.

Wow you are uptight, you need to relax it is only football.

Al Wilson
12-06-2012, 09:25 PM
FGs against a good offense will get us defeated.....period.

3rd and longs won't get converted regularly against a good defense.

You guys better wake up.
Thanks for stating the obvious, genius.

DBroncos4life
12-06-2012, 09:26 PM
Wrong

bowtown
12-06-2012, 09:28 PM
Your an idiot if you think that effort would work on Houston, NE or
possibly even the Ravens.

Grow up a-hole................

Well then, it's good we weren't playing them tonight.

Action
12-06-2012, 09:28 PM
Honestly, it's hard to analyze and judge a game against a division team especially the second time around.

Theres many areas that needs improvement through.

USMCBladerunner
12-06-2012, 09:29 PM
I understand what you are saying...kind of...it does feel like we should have won by more points, but this game was a a Grade A ass whooping except for only one thing...red zone efficiency...bad blocking in the first half and lame fades in the second made this game feel much much closer than it was.

The second half was particularly good IMO. Except for a busted blitz that went 56 yards and the TD, the defense gave up very little.

The Raiders played hard tonight, but I thought the Broncos outclassed them in every facet. It was only trading a few TDs for FGs that makes this feel like less of the dominating win that it was.

JakeZ01
12-06-2012, 09:30 PM
Well, when they finally ran the ball twice in a row we were fine.

Houshyamama
12-06-2012, 09:31 PM
Thanks sweetheart.

Bronco Boy
12-06-2012, 09:36 PM
We are the #2 offense in the league.

SouthStndJunkie
12-06-2012, 09:40 PM
300+ yard passer and a 100+ yard rusher.

428 yards of offense.

It wasn't perfect, but Denver won by almost 2 TDs on a road game on Thursday night, when road teams traditionally play like ****.

I'll take a road win like that in Oakland, Kansas City, or San Diego every time.

theAPAOps5
12-06-2012, 09:42 PM
It will if it wins game...... Like tonight.

DBroncos4life
12-06-2012, 09:42 PM
Why are Tebow fans still allowed to start threads.

Bacchus
12-06-2012, 09:53 PM
Why are Tebow fans still allowed to start threads.

because as God's children aren't we all fans of The Tebow?

Rocket 7
12-06-2012, 09:53 PM
At least Prater has some confidence back after a few bad weeks in a row.

Drunken.Broncoholic
12-06-2012, 09:53 PM
Why are Tebow fans still allowed to start threads.

They really do give themselves a bad name don't they.
I find it fascinating they want everything on the team to be perfect. But gave tebow a pass.

4th in the league in redzone success. Wake up

NFLBRONCO
12-06-2012, 09:55 PM
It might have been a bigger help for Prater getting over his funk. We won on the road in a short week sweet. We need a confident K for playoffs.

That One Guy
12-06-2012, 09:57 PM
It's hard to judge the efficiency of a team in that situation if the team doesn't really need to score. I'd like to think they know when they need to take shots at the EZ and I trust Manning to make the throw in that situation.

It felt like a preseason game to me so I think it was good for the FGs.

Wes Mantooth
12-06-2012, 10:01 PM
We should have buried this loser Raider team early and often.

We got some more work to do..................

Division games are always hard
They played 4 days ago
You're an idiot

spdirty
12-06-2012, 10:18 PM
It was a Thursday Night away game against a division rival following a win against a good team to clinch the division and heading into a mini bye followed by our game of the year so far. Get over it. We entered the game 4th in redzone efficiency. Sometimes **** happens. We won. No significant injuries happened in a possible trap game. There will always be work to do, and a standard to try to live up to, so just enjoy what we have.

People b**** for the sake of b****ing anymore. For ****s sakes.

Kaylore
12-06-2012, 10:23 PM
We had three days of preparation on the road and "only" won by 13 against a division opponent who is coached by one of our former players? This is unacceptable! I demand a refund!

sinuous sausage
12-06-2012, 10:25 PM
because as God's children aren't we all fans of The Tebow?

I thought it was the other way around

Fedaykin
12-06-2012, 10:29 PM
* No injuries
* Prater got his mojo back
* Only 2 punts
* KM got himself some reps and did well
* Von still firing on all cylinders
* PFM still being PFM
* Still showing a league leading ability to learn and adjust on both sides of the ball
* We showed up for the first half this game

And in the end, it was a 13 point win on the road against a division rival on a short week. And if not for some respect given to Allen, would have been a 20 point win easily at the end.

spdirty
12-06-2012, 10:36 PM
* No injuries
* Prater got his mojo back
* Only 2 punts
* KM got himself some reps and did well
* Von still firing on all cylinders
* PFM still being PFM
* Still showing a league leading ability to learn and adjust on both sides of the ball
* We showed up for the first half this game

And in the end, it was a 13 point win on the road against a division rival on a short week. And if not for some respect given to Allen, would have been a 20 point win easily at the end.
Bill**** it would have been a 16 point win because we forgot how to score touchdowns in the redzone. That kind of **** won't cut it in the playoffs!

sinuous sausage
12-06-2012, 10:38 PM
Bill**** it would have been a 16 point win because we forgot how to score touchdowns in the redzone. That kind of **** won't cut it in the playoffs!

That PAT was just too big a leap of faith for ya, huh?

Wes Mantooth
12-06-2012, 10:38 PM
Bill**** it would have been a 16 point win because we forgot how to score touchdowns in the redzone. That kind of **** won't cut it in the playoffs!

Yeah it will

SonOfLe-loLang
12-06-2012, 10:43 PM
Considering scoring hasnt been a huge problem for the Broncos this year, I'm not worried about it.

SonOfLe-loLang
12-06-2012, 10:44 PM
Bill**** it would have been a 16 point win because we forgot how to score touchdowns in the redzone. That kind of **** won't cut it in the playoffs!

Methinks its more of an anomaly than an inability to do something. Football is a game of VERY small sample sizes...relax, itll be fine.

theAPAOps5
12-06-2012, 10:44 PM
Bill**** it would have been a 16 point win because we forgot how to score touchdowns in the redzone. That kind of **** won't cut it in the playoffs!

If it scores enough points to have a higher score than the other team it will.

BroncoFox
12-06-2012, 10:55 PM
Oh sheesh, we are fine. I knew we'd get negative Nancys after the game. We only won by 13.. on the road.. against a division opponent to sweep them. It's hard to keep a large winning streak alive. It's also unlike a team to lose a bunch in a row. Short week. Could have easily been a letdown game.

I'll take a "letdown" of winning by only 13 points on the road. :giggle:

lonestar
12-06-2012, 11:01 PM
Without reading a lot of posts.

We have to be better than we were this evening playing the almost last D in most catagories we had issues. And they did not even have Seymour on the field.


As in past seasons we allowed a lousy team to hang on and build confidence allowing them to THINK they could play with us.

The definition of a trap game. Glad Manning was there to,rally the team inmyears past it would not have happened.

spdirty
12-06-2012, 11:04 PM
Damn, I thought my sarcasm would come through in the previous post after my first post. Guess I need to put up smileys.

theAPAOps5
12-06-2012, 11:14 PM
Damn, I thought my sarcasm would come through in the previous post after my first post. Guess I need to put up smileys.

LOL yeah you got me!

ZONA
12-06-2012, 11:26 PM
It might have been a bigger help for Prater getting over his funk. We won on the road in a short week sweet. We need a confident K for playoffs.

I hate when people use the short week as an excuse. The other team had a short week also.

All the poster did in my opinion was state the same thing Manning himself would have said. They did alot of things well, they were not good in the redzone and need to work on it. What's the big deal. I don't see why everybody is jumping the guy. It's not like he said we're a sorry ass team and nothing is working for us. He just said we can't settle for FG's in the playoffs. I think anybody would agree with that.

ton80
12-07-2012, 12:17 AM
It was a Thursday Night away game against a division rival following a win against a good team to clinch the division and heading into a mini bye followed by our game of the year so far. Get over it. We entered the game 4th in redzone efficiency. Sometimes **** happens. We won. No significant injuries happened in a possible trap game. There will always be work to do, and a standard to try to live up to, so just enjoy what we have.

People b**** for the sake of b****ing anymore. For ****s sakes.

The most brilliant post of all time!!!!!

Doggcow
12-07-2012, 12:22 AM
I hate when people use the short week as an excuse. The other team had a short week also.

All the poster did in my opinion was state the same thing Manning himself would have said. They did alot of things well, they were not good in the redzone and need to work on it. What's the big deal. I don't see why everybody is jumping the guy. It's not like he said we're a sorry ass team and nothing is working for us. He just said we can't settle for FG's in the playoffs. I think anybody would agree with that.

Except do you really think they put THAT much effort into Oakland? When they have Balt coming etc?

If we win the turnover battle (like we did tonight) in the playoffs, we will be fine.

extralife
12-07-2012, 01:33 AM
Except do you really think they put THAT much effort into Oakland? When they have Balt coming etc?

yes, moron, I do. what, you think the coaches sat around and went "ehhhhh, I don't feel like working this week. maybe I'll think about the game a week and a half from now."

I don't know why everyone is screaming. it wasn't a very good game, go read the game thread. I know everyone is used to us sucking, but when you are a super bowl contender you don't say "well we won, so whatever!" after regular season games. regular season wins mean **** all in the long run.

Bacchus
12-07-2012, 01:42 AM
yes, moron, I do. what, you think the coaches sat around and went "ehhhhh, I don't feel like working this week. maybe I'll think about the game a week and a half from now."

I don't know why everyone is screaming. it wasn't a very good game, go read the game thread. I know everyone is used to us sucking, but when you are a super bowl contender you don't say "well we won, so whatever!" after regular season games. regular season wins mean **** all in the long run.

Didn't you see the Coors Light keg and all you can eat buffet on the Broncos' sideline?

rbackfactory80
12-07-2012, 03:26 AM
Jetmeck is right, that team would get bounced by any playoff team last night. They had plenty of opportunities to break that game open last night and failed.

But this has been a trend--the offense has not fully clicked yet and I said it in the game thread. Manning threw a pick and probably should have thrown two more. The defense has really played well for the last stretch, not the offense.

Punisher
12-07-2012, 04:01 AM
Working on a short week vs a rival, I think they did an ok job.

Atwater His Ass
12-07-2012, 04:24 AM
Winning against a division rival on the road on a short week (raiders played at home the week before) with no injuries is a huge W in my book.

HAT
12-07-2012, 04:50 AM
Jetmeck is right, that team would get bounced by any playoff team last night. They had plenty of opportunities to break that game open last night and failed.

But this has been a trend--the offense has not fully clicked yet and I said it in the game thread. Manning threw a pick and probably should have thrown two more. The defense has really played well for the last stretch, not the offense.

Denver's offense has really regressed since they don't have 15 anymore.

/rbf80

TonyR
12-07-2012, 06:42 AM
PM would at least partically agree with the OP. He's a very demanding perfectionist and he was clearly p*ssed on the sidelines after a couple of those drives stalled. Either way, he got it done for the 8th straight week.

Peyton Manning has now led his teams to at least ten wins in 12 of the 14 years he's played, with the only exceptions having been his rookie season and that of the 2001 Jim Mora "Playoffs?!?!" meltdown.

That's now ten straight seasons of ten wins for Peyton, including seven with at least 12. And with Baltimore, Cleveland, and Kansas City left on the schedule, there's no reason to think Manning won't get his team to 12 once again, which would make for the ninth time he'll have done so in his career.

Running the table would get Denver to 13 wins, where Peyton has already been four times. http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/it-really-is-all-about-peyton-lard

Wes Mantooth
12-07-2012, 06:48 AM
Damn, I thought my sarcasm would come through in the previous post after my first post. Guess I need to put up smileys.

Ya you got me too

Binkythefrog
12-07-2012, 07:07 AM
We all would of loved a 45 -13 beatdown - but at least the Broncos know they can do better. It is nice to talk about this kind of problem with our team instead of worrying about even getting to .500 like the past few years.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/67988/broncos-not-perfect-but-sidestep-trap

Several Denver players spoke with dissatisfaction about their performance -- and warned that it must get better.

“If we are inconsistent,” Bailey deadpanned, “we’ll go right into the playoffs and right out of the playoffs.”

Drunken.Broncoholic
12-07-2012, 07:12 AM
Denver's offense has really regressed since they don't have 15 anymore.

/rbf80

This is hilarious. These clowns are complaining about an offense that scores close to 30 a game, yet had no problem with an offense that never showed up at all in games. Scoring 10 points a game gets you knocked out of the playoffs.


You can't even compare this performance with a potential playoff performance. They barely prepared for this game, no pad practices, 4 days notice?

TonyR
12-07-2012, 07:20 AM
Several Denver players spoke with dissatisfaction about their performance -- and warned that it must get better.

“If we are inconsistent,” Bailey deadpanned, “we’ll go right into the playoffs and right out of the playoffs.”

I love this attitude. LOVE it! And with veteran leaders like PM and Champ you know the whole locker room knows it. The playoffs are a whole different animal.

Rock Chalk
12-07-2012, 07:34 AM
We should have buried this loser Raider team early and often.

We got some more work to do..................

Two of those 3rd down plays in the red zone were Peyton's fault. The ones he got sacked, he ****ed up the protection calls.

TonyR
12-07-2012, 07:51 AM
I'm not saying there's a correlation here, but have you noticed that when Manny Ramirez is in the lineup, it seems like the Broncos give up more pressures and sacks? With Chris Kuper starting, Manning has been sacked four times in six games. With Manny? 15 times in seven games. Of course, Zane Beadles and Dan Koppen deserve their share of the blame, too. http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/gut-reaction-week-14-broncos-at-raiders

BroncoDoom
12-07-2012, 07:55 AM
FGs against a good offense will get us defeated.....period.

3rd and longs won't get converted regularly against a good defense.

You guys better wake up.

Keep eating your sh*t sandwiches! I am enjoying this ride!

Also, your love of toon porn invalidates your opinion automatically.

baja
12-07-2012, 08:00 AM
Two of those 3rd down plays in the red zone were Peyton's fault. The ones he got sacked, he ****ed up the protection calls.

He missed on a couple of passes too.

But that must have been Moreno's fault if you listen to some folks here.

rmsanger
12-07-2012, 08:04 AM
Well to be fair the OP's point is correct to some extent. If and when we play the big boys we'll need much better red zone efficiency! Moreno stepped up for some tough yards in tight situations. Our offensive line needs quite a bit of work in pass protection and run blocking. "ManRam" is terrible but we also didn't get a great seal on run blocking from either tackle. The TEs made no noticeable holes and Peyton was tip toeing around a suffocating pocket all night.

We can and need to be better!

Drunken.Broncoholic
12-07-2012, 08:16 AM
The other teams that some around here are scared of also have played some mediocre games. Patriots put up 18 points against Arizona. Needed OT to beat the jets and and put up 23 against Miami. Lost to Seattle.


This was a routine just cruise through game. Wing it. You think it would've looked the same had this game been played on Sunday instead of Thursday?

SonOfLe-loLang
12-07-2012, 08:37 AM
I dont know why people here consider all games and situations to be exactly equal. Games are snowflakes, and there's no trend of the Broncos offense being **** in the red zone.

Relax. Enjoy the win. Its not like this game was ever close.

cmhargrove
12-07-2012, 08:58 AM
I think that actually/statistically FG's would cut it in the playoffs. What does the average team have, 10 drives per game? If you are playing good D, 30 points per game is pretty decent.

Next point please...

Drunken.Broncoholic
12-07-2012, 09:15 AM
I think that actually/statistically FG's would cut it in the playoffs. What does the average team have, 10 drives per game? If you are playing good D, 30 points per game is pretty decent.

Next point please...

Yep. Playoffs have a different feel all together. Rarely do you go run up the score into the 40s. Usually it's a 24-21 type result.

If field goals don't win it in the playoff, why do missed ones always result in a loss?

All scoring drives matter in the playoffs. It's punts that cost you games.

Drunken.Broncoholic
12-07-2012, 10:45 AM
Not sure but I think broncos are ranked around 4th in the league in red zone efficiency. If the OP is saying field goals won't win based on one game. Then I'll base the patriots scoring 18 against Arizona, and 9 put up by the Ravens. These field goals wouldve helped win with the points those 2 teams failed to put up.

crush17
12-07-2012, 11:00 AM
This team is 10-3, clinched the division, fighting for a 1st round bye, has a world class QB, an elite defense, an RB who stepped in for our starter and has not missed a beat, pro bowl players at WR and CB....and we just won on a short week, in prime time, against a divisional opponent who was fighting for their coach.... And people still want to bitch.


Get over yourselves!

Jetmeck
12-07-2012, 11:38 AM
I remind those of you with orange colored glasses I told you the same after we fumbled and bumbled our way to beating the Pats in 05 playoffs and I took the heat for it just like now.............but guess what I was right then and I am right now............we lost to Pittsburgh the next week horribly and we have lost to better teams earlier this year.

Unless we get better we aren't going far in the playoffs this year................

Drunken.Broncoholic
12-07-2012, 11:59 AM
I remind those of you with orange colored glasses I told you the same after we fumbled and bumbled our way to beating the Pats in 05 playoffs and I took the heat for it just like now.............but guess what I was right then and I am right now............we lost to Pittsburgh the next week horribly and we have lost to better teams earlier this year.

Unless we get better we aren't going far in the playoffs this year................

One HUGE difference. You cannot be comparing Plummer and manning? Look where the broncos are ranked in red zone efficiency this year. If this was a year long problem then I would say you're on to something.

Denver Bronco56
12-07-2012, 12:27 PM
I think people are looking at this Offense and thinking this is what we have...

But in all actuality this O is still gelling, dealing with some injuries and learning as this season has gone on.

Compare where we were chemistry and scheme wise week one to last nights game and its night and day. We are fine tuning things and hoping people get/stay healthy, come playoff time we should be rolling and have some kinks worked out. Knowshon will have had more playing time in the O and hopefully Kuper will be back.

Br0nc0Buster
12-07-2012, 12:44 PM
"Listen up clowns......................."

Short week on the road against a division rival coached by a former coordinator of ours is enough to understand why this game most likely was not going to be a blow out

Couple that with Fox's conservative nature and you get games where we dominated teams in all phases except the scoreboard

I would like to see more consistency in the run game
At times our line would get blown away without giving our qb or rb a chance

I think the Baltimore game next week will be telling more so than any of the recent games we have played

rbackfactory80
12-07-2012, 06:42 PM
Denver's offense has really regressed since they don't have 15 anymore.

/rbf80

haha

lol

LOL

Never ever said they regressed. Just said they are nowhere close to where they need to be. Can't rely on defensive/punt return touchdowns every game.

With that said I am not worried. Just calling a very average effort like I saw it.

Drunken.Broncoholic
12-07-2012, 06:48 PM
haha

lol

LOL

Never ever said they regressed. Just said they are nowhere close to where they need to be. Can't rely on defensive/punt return touchdowns every game.



Didn't they rely on that kind of stuff last year?

rbackfactory80
12-07-2012, 07:00 PM
Didn't they rely on that kind of stuff last year?

Brah, you're caught in the past. I am focused on the current.

If you are asking me to admit that we caught some lucky bounces, no problem. But I will also say this current offense is nowhere near as good as its potential. My criticizing comes from a place of knowing the possibilities of this season. We want to say we are a real contender, we have to play better than last night, it's really that simple.

Next week is the real test though. We'll see if we can take care of a good team on the road.

errand
12-07-2012, 07:02 PM
Your an idiot if you think that effort would work on Houston, NE or
possibly even the Ravens.

Grow up a-hole................

I agree if we got into a shooting match with them, FG's won't cut it.

but keep in mind our defense has been playing quite well and keeping the opposing offenses in check for the most part.

Drunken.Broncoholic
12-07-2012, 07:06 PM
Brah, you're caught in the past. I am focused on the current.

If you are asking me to admit that we caught some lucky bounces, no problem. But I will also say this current offense is nowhere near as good as its potential. My criticizing comes from a place of knowing the possibilities of this season. We want to say we are a real contender, we have to play better than last night, it's really that simple.

Next week is the real test though. We'll see if we can take care of a good team on the road.

I guess I just don't understand how you can be so critical of this years offense yet give Tebows 13 point performances a pass. Every week is a test IMO. Baltimore is the biggest test. Never won there. But this offense is 3rd in the league in scoring. 3rd. John Fox is like 45-4 when his team scores more than 24 points in a game. They average almost 5 more than that. That's a recipe for success.

errand
12-07-2012, 07:10 PM
They really do give themselves a bad name don't they.
I find it fascinating they want everything on the team to be perfect. But gave tebow a pass.

4th in the league in redzone success. Wake up

I know...Tebow hits on 46% of his passes and he'll revolutionize the QB position...Moreno has 168 total yards on 36 touches and it's "meh", what an average game.

Drunken.Broncoholic
12-07-2012, 07:12 PM
I know...Tebow hits on 46% of his passes and he'll revolutionize the QB position...Moreno has 168 total yards on 36 touches and it's "meh", what an average game.


I was really impressed with Moreno yesterday. Never imagined 30+ carries in this offense. They really wanted to hit the run. The benching I think lit a spark under him.

Bacchus
12-07-2012, 07:14 PM
What if the Ravens kick FGs as well? I mean its kinda obvious to say that if the Ravens score TDs FGs won't cut it...... LOL.. What if the Ravens kick FGs, will FGs cut it then?


What if the Ravens get two TDs and Denver kicks 6 FGs? I'm not sure but too me it seems that this game will come down to who scores more points.

Now I am confused..... Will FGs cut it or not?!?!?!?!

Drunken.Broncoholic
12-07-2012, 07:20 PM
What if the Ravens kick FGs as well? I mean its kinda obvious to say that if the Ravens score TDs FGs won't cut it...... LOL.. What if the Ravens kick FGs, will FGs cut it then?


What if the Ravens get two TDs and Denver kicks 6 FGs? I'm not sure but too me it seems that this game will come down to who scores more points.

Now I am confused..... Will FGs cut it or not?!?!?!?!

Ha FGs usually always works for Pitt against the ravens. Their scores are always like 16-13 12-10 results

baja
12-07-2012, 07:38 PM
Denver 35

Baltimore 13

This is the game they put it all together

Book it.

broncosteven
12-07-2012, 07:41 PM
We should have buried this loser Raider team early and often.

We got some more work to do..................

Road game on a very short week vs divisional opponent desperate to win a game. Not worried.

I am glad that Prater got the work and got back on track.

NUB
12-07-2012, 07:42 PM
You can't put a lot of emphasis on divisional games. I'm always happy whenever Denver wins against the Chiefs/Raiders/Chargers because it is never a sure thing, no matter how good the team.