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bfoflcommish
12-06-2012, 07:43 AM
being reported the deal has fallen apart and Butch not coming to CU. Yep good job CU!!

@reedmarks (https://mobile.twitter.com/reedmarks) reporting that #CUBuffs (https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=CUBuffs&s=hash) top target Butch Jones will not be coming to CU after deal falls apart.

Goobzilla
12-06-2012, 07:49 AM
Shocking....Bohn paints himself into a corner and can't seal the deal. Fire this clown and start the search over.

Rohirrim
12-06-2012, 07:50 AM
If Butch Jones turns CU down, this thing is going to turn into a very embarrassing and humiliating circus. If Jones turns CU down, the first thing CU must do is fire Bohn.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-06-2012, 07:50 AM
What a debacle if true.

I think the leak was Jones' agent to Woody.

pricejj
12-06-2012, 07:53 AM
LOL

The guy has a Napoleon complex now, just imagine how he would handle a 6 game losing streak. Not mad that Jones is toast.

Bohn's administration could not be more inept.

bfoflcommish
12-06-2012, 07:56 AM
What a debacle if true.

I think the leak was Jones' agent to Woody.

i really dont think so, i think it was CU side still. Hell Butchs wife was suprised and had call him to ask if true, no way he leaked it before telling wife.

I also think thats why deal falling apart. he's mad CU let it out before hehad chance to tell who was needed to tell on his side.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-06-2012, 08:06 AM
I don't care what Butch said publicly, coaches lie all the time, especially when they're being courted for a new job. 7News said last night they'd been told there was a verbal agreement in place, just nothing signed. That tracks with some of the "denials" that nothing official was done yet.

Woody was clearly chummy with Jones' agent, you could tell that from the articles he wrote. Just because it wasn't Butch directly doesn't mean someone on his side didn't jump the gun.

Whoever it came from, it went through Woody.

pricejj
12-06-2012, 08:07 AM
CU is/are flipping morons. If the people in charge have no idea how to hire a good football coach, or even what a good football coach is. What makes you think that the 3rd guy they would hire is a good football coach?

CU's desperation and decline to complete failure is laughable. Any reputable football person would have nothing to do with that organization.

bfoflcommish
12-06-2012, 08:08 AM
I don't care what Butch said publicly, coaches lie all the time, especially when they're being courted for a new job. 7News said last night they'd been told there was a verbal agreement in place, just nothing signed. That tracks with some of the "denials" that nothing official was done yet.

Woody was clearly chummy with Jones' agent, you could tell that from the articles he wrote. Just because it wasn't Butch directly doesn't mean someone on his side didn't jump the gun.

Whoever it came from, it went through Woody.

may be, but all the reports coming out from jones' side now dont sound like it to me, they sound like they are pissed it was let out and now they are no longer considering it. unless Jones signs somewhere else soon for more $ I really think it was all on CU.

bfoflcommish
12-06-2012, 08:09 AM
the way former cu players are talking right now sounds like they think CU at fault as well.

razorwire77
12-06-2012, 08:09 AM
Embarrassing that a Pac-12 school is being used as a pawn by a coach to extract more money to stay at a Big East school (Probably the most unstable conference in the country.)

The clown show continues.

Rohirrim
12-06-2012, 08:14 AM
Too bad CU didn't learn anything from the way Elway approached the Manning deal.

bronco militia
12-06-2012, 08:22 AM
Too bad CU didn't learn anything from the way _____ approached the _____ deal.

FYP :)

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2012, 08:26 AM
http://www.buffzone.com/cu-news/ci_22135607/butch-jones-turns-down-cu-buffs

No longer just a source.

NFLBRONCO
12-06-2012, 08:29 AM
The guy hired Hawkins and Embree do you really expect anything different from Bohn. I think Jones didn't want job anyways he wanted more money elsewhere.

Tombstone RJ
12-06-2012, 08:30 AM
Has the fail boat arrived yet?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2012, 08:31 AM
Has the fail boat arrived yet?

Been sitting at Folsom Field for about 7 years now. Bohn pulled it right into the stadium.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-06-2012, 08:35 AM
the way former cu players are talking right now sounds like they think CU at fault as well.

The guys who are still pissed one of their own got fired? Alfred, Klatt, Mac, etc., have come across worse than Bohn has in all this, and that is hard to do. They're hardly credible sources of information.

This thing has turned into a total **** show.

NFLBRONCO
12-06-2012, 08:35 AM
I feel for the next HC nobody will be excited about who we land. We expect nothing from them either. All we did today was overpay for an avg coach what a mess.

bfoflcommish
12-06-2012, 08:39 AM
I feel for the next HC nobody will be excited about who we land. We expect nothing from them either. All we did today was overpay for an avg coach what a mess.


I disagree, I think things can be fixed fast with someone like Petrino. Bohn could look like a genius if it works out, or he'll be first out the door, just like he will with any hire that doesnt work out anyway.

Rohirrim
12-06-2012, 08:39 AM
http://urbansavior.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/52.gif

Tombstone RJ
12-06-2012, 08:40 AM
Been sitting at Folsom Field for about 7 years now. Bohn pulled it right into the stadium.

Dare I say it? "The fail boat is sinking!" At least BroncoBuff is bailing out the water just as fast as he can!

I love the arrogancy of the CU Administration. I know what they are thinking: "We are CU, who wouldn't want to coach a football team in the People's Republic of Boulder?"

bfoflcommish
12-06-2012, 08:41 AM
The guys who are still pissed one of their own got fired? Alfred, Klatt, Mac, etc., have come across worse than Bohn has in all this, and that is hard to do. They're hardly credible sources of information.

This thing has turned into a total **** show.



reports are he is staying at Cincy. I think that tells you all other offers werent considered, he was coming to CU til it was handled poorly on this side.

If he mysteriously takes tennesse job i would agree with you

Rohirrim
12-06-2012, 08:44 AM
Perhaps the politics are such in Boulder that the school can no longer sustain a football program?

bfoflcommish
12-06-2012, 08:45 AM
<TABLE class=tweet><TBODY><TR class=tweet-header><TD class=user-info>@markkiszla (https://mobile.twitter.com/markkiszla?p=s)</TD><TD class=timestamp>5m (https://mobile.twitter.com/markkiszla/status/276727083332427776?p=p) </TD></TR><TR class=tweet-container><TD class=tweet-content colSpan=2>A source close to the CU search did apparently anger Jones to the point where he blew up deal. @michaelshults (https://mobile.twitter.com/michaelshults) @pencerm (https://mobile.twitter.com/pencerm)
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Tombstone RJ
12-06-2012, 08:49 AM
Perhaps the politics are such in Boulder that the school can no longer sustain a football program?

Why would the Pac bazillion want CU if they don't have a football team? Why would they want to hand over $21m a year to a castrated school?

Well, at least CU has a woman's lacrosse team, amiright?

NFLBRONCO
12-06-2012, 08:53 AM
Jones handled it bad too just like Cutler

Rohirrim
12-06-2012, 08:54 AM
Why would the Pac bazillion want CU if they don't have a football team? Why would they want to hand over $21m a year to a castrated school?

Well, at least CU has a woman's lacrosse team, amiright?

Well, I guess they could always choose to be the Washington Generals of the Pac 12. They could just cut spending to the bone, rake in their Pac 12 stipend, and guarantee at least one win per season for every team in the conference. ;D

broncswin
12-06-2012, 09:20 AM
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Lmao what a little bitch

bronco militia
12-06-2012, 09:25 AM
maybe Bohn could save some money and hire a guy that wants the job?

razorwire77
12-06-2012, 09:28 AM
Lmao what a little b****

Translation:

Cincinnati is going to pony up the cash to keep me

OR

A better school that CU is flirting with me.

spdirty
12-06-2012, 09:30 AM
Well, if he's gonna do that, I don't want him here. Hope Wisconsin passes him over and he can rot in Cincy. What a little bitch.

I assume DeRuyter is the guy then.

broncswin
12-06-2012, 09:32 AM
Translation:

Cincinnati is going to pony up the cash to keep me

OR

A better school that CU is flirting with me.



Still sounds like a little bitch to me...don't get me wrong, Bohn is a real dumb ass

Hercules Rockefeller
12-06-2012, 09:33 AM
Translation:

Cincinnati is going to pony up the cash to keep me

OR

A better school that CU is flirting with me.

It's not A

bfoflcommish
12-06-2012, 09:36 AM
It's not A

sounds lke it is A.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-06-2012, 09:39 AM
sounds lke it is A.

They had already ponied up the cash and he was still leaning CU's way after that. He still hasn't come out and said he's staying at Cincy.

pricejj
12-06-2012, 10:06 AM
I wouldn't mind Tim DeRuyter. He was Von Miller's Defensive Coordinator at Texas A&M, completely transforming them from a 4-3 to a 3-4. He definitely understands big-time Defense. He can get CU going in the right direction. It would feel like there are real college football coaches at CU for the first time since Barnett was fired. Deruyter was at A&M when Tannehill was there, so he knows what real QB's are supposed to look like.

I think Butch Jones is largely riding the coat-tails of Brian Kelly at Cincinnati...and judging by his people skills, will probably fail miserably at his next gig.

pricejj
12-06-2012, 10:27 AM
DeRuyter was the DC at Air Force prior to his stint at A&M (which brought A&M to national prominence again), and is a former OLB for Air Force in the '80's.

He has the credentials, and could field a good pass rushing Defense very quickly, which is what CU needs to compete in the PAC-12.

Derek Carr (David Carr's younger brother) plays for Fresno now, it's safe to say DeRuyter knows you need a top-flight QB recruit to succeed. Interesting to see who his assistant coaches would be, and if he is CU's new #1.

Tombstone RJ
12-06-2012, 10:31 AM
I love AFA Football so I have no problem with DeRuyter at CU, in fact, I would be excited if CU was smart enough to hire this guy. But who are we kidding?

scorpio
12-06-2012, 10:35 AM
Stage 3: Bargaining

razorwire77
12-06-2012, 10:42 AM
CU seriously just needs a stability hire. There are so many names out there that would jump at 7 figures and to coach a Pac-12 team in a beautiful small city. It's beyond ridiculous that CU couldn't have half a dozen decent veteran coaches on the phone right now.

Dennis Franchione (Texas St.)-A nomad but a history of building decent programs from ****.

Chris Ault (Nevada)-Set up an option offense out of the pistol and eventually transition into a spread out of the pistol as CU recruits better athletes.

Rocky Long (SDSU)- Was DC of UCLA for years. One of the forefathers of the 3-3-5 defense. Built UNM up from **** to respectability. Took SDSU this year to 9-3 with victories over Boise despite losing Ronnie Hillman and Ryan Lindley.

Rod Carey (Northern Illinois)- For obvious reasons.

Tombstone RJ
12-06-2012, 10:53 AM
CU seriously just needs a stability hire. There are so many names out there that would jump at 7 figures and to coach a Pac-12 team in a beautiful small city. It's beyond ridiculous that CU couldn't have half a dozen decent veteran coaches on the phone right now.

Dennis Franchione (Texas St.)-A nomad but a history of building decent programs from ****.

Chris Ault (Nevada)-Set up an option offense out of the pistol and eventually transition into a spread out of the pistol as CU recruits better athletes.

Rocky Long (SDSU)- Was DC of UCLA for years. One of the forefathers of the 3-3-5 defense. Built UNM up from **** to respectability. Took SDSU this year to 9-3 with victories over Boise despite losing Ronnie Hillman and Ryan Lindley.

Rod Carey (Northern Illinois)- For obvious reasons.

As others have mentioned, June Jones, dude has coached in the NFL and college and is a heck of a QB coach. He has name recognition too.

Hire JJ and then bring in a guy like DeRuyter to run the defense, and PAY THEM BOTH WELL!!

Hercules Rockefeller
12-06-2012, 11:01 AM
DeRuyter isn't going to go from HC to DC.

He's made it known since the firing that he's interested.

While everyone else was focused on Jones, Neil Woelk said yesterday that they've had multiple guys on campus.

Tombstone RJ
12-06-2012, 11:05 AM
DeRuyter isn't going to go from HC to DC.

He's made it known since the firing that he's interested.

While everyone else was focused on Jones, Neil Woelk said yesterday that they've had multiple guys on campus.

I thought DeRuyter was a DC, my bad. Well, hire him as HC and bring JJ in as OC? Whatever works.

pricejj
12-06-2012, 11:12 AM
I love AFA Football so I have no problem with DeRuyter at CU, in fact, I would be excited if CU was smart enough to hire this guy. But who are we kidding?

DeRuyter has been mentioned in the conversation, and has shown interest.

The problem is, Bohn (and the rest of the CU administration) seem to like guys who are like themselves...underqualified guys who talk big, like to put on a show, and have no clue how to do their job.

DeRuyter could actually succeed in spite of those morons. I'm sure his values are completely different than the people he's working for, but as long as they stay out of his way and let him do his job, he could build a real college football program at CU...instead of the fantasy land they've been living in since McCartney left.

They only tolerated Barnett (and his mid-western values), because he was winning. But they never really supported him.

What's funny, is former players, like Alfred Williams, know this, but they don't know why the CU administration isn't supporting (both publicly and monetarily) known winners in their football program. It's all because of politics.

The new coach needs to partner with Bohn to force the University to actually invest in the football program (get it in writing), and give the coach leeway to operate the program to as he sees fit.

NFLBRONCO
12-06-2012, 11:12 AM
Herc is next CU coach- per Denver Post

pricejj
12-06-2012, 11:14 AM
I thought DeRuyter was a DC, my bad. Well, hire him as HC and bring JJ in as OC? Whatever works.

DeRuyter has been head coach for one year at Fresno State.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2012, 11:18 AM
Stage 3: Bargaining

This.

CEH
12-06-2012, 11:18 AM
CU targeting Earl Bruce

@reedmarks (https://mobile.twitter.com/reedmarks) reporting that #CUBuffs (https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=CUBuffs&s=hash) top target now if famed coach Earl Bruce

razorwire77
12-06-2012, 11:50 AM
Isn't Earl Bruce like 107-years-old?

Rohirrim
12-06-2012, 11:55 AM
CU targeting Earl Bruce

@reedmarks (https://mobile.twitter.com/reedmarks) reporting that #CUBuffs (https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=CUBuffs&s=hash) top target now if famed coach Earl Bruce

What's the problem? John Robinson not available?

razorwire77
12-06-2012, 12:01 PM
So I put the Google to work. To put this into perspective, I'm 34-years-old and Earle Bruce last coached college football when I was 13. His last coaching gig of any kind was an Arena Football team 10 years ago. He also had a sub .500 record in the Arena league.

If this is what CU is doing, seriously, why not just say F*ck it and hire Dave Logan?

bronco militia
12-06-2012, 12:08 PM
CU targeting Earl Bruce

@reedmarks (https://mobile.twitter.com/reedmarks) reporting that #CUBuffs (https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=CUBuffs&s=hash) top target now if famed coach Earl Bruce

LOLLOLLOL

because those years at CSU were so awesome!

Ha! Ha! Ha!

razorwire77
12-06-2012, 12:12 PM
Honestly, now I hope they hire him just to watch the ensuing chaos. We all joked about hiring away CSU-Pueblo, Adams St. and Fort Lewis' coaches. Any of those guys would be a better hire than Earle Bruce. Jerry Sandusky coaching via satellite television from prison would be a better hire.

crowebomber
12-06-2012, 12:27 PM
CU targeting Earl Bruce

@reedmarks (https://mobile.twitter.com/reedmarks) reporting that #CUBuffs (https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=CUBuffs&s=hash) top target now if famed coach Earl Bruce

Oh hell no. Hey, Buddy Ryan is still alive right? How about Marv Friggin Levy?

Requiem
12-06-2012, 12:31 PM
Nobody worth a darn is going to go coach CU. They would have a losing record if they played in DI-AA.

pricejj
12-06-2012, 12:40 PM
If this is what CU is doing, seriously, why not just say **** it and hire Dave Logan?

This. I love Dave Logan, and would be excited if he was hired....

.....however.

There may be a small difference between preparing to coach against Smoky Hill, Denver East, and ThunderRidge one season...

...and USC, Stanford, and Oregon the next.

pricejj
12-06-2012, 12:44 PM
Nobody worth a darn is going to go coach CU. They would have a losing record if they played in DI-AA.


And to think Gary Kubiak verbally agreed to coach at CU 12 years ago.

24champ
12-06-2012, 01:05 PM
How does Bohn still have a job?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2012, 01:24 PM
This. I love Dave Logan, and would be excited if he was hired....

.....however.

There may be a small difference between preparing to coach against Smoky Hill, Denver East, and ThunderRidge one season...

...and USC, Stanford, and Oregon the next.

http://dailydickpunch.com/2012/11/26/logan-is-no-buffalo/

I know he may be the only person left who would take the job, I just hope he doesn't get the offer. That would be yet another step back.

razorwire77
12-06-2012, 01:33 PM
This. I love Dave Logan, and would be excited if he was hired....

.....however.

There may be a small difference between preparing to coach against Smoky Hill, Denver East, and ThunderRidge one season...

...and USC, Stanford, and Oregon the next.

He would be a better hire than Earl Bruce. Dave Logan's high school defensive coordinator would be a better hire than Earl Bruce.

NFLBRONCO
12-06-2012, 01:34 PM
Do you have a feeling this time CU will just announce they hired someone and have a news conference.

razorwire77
12-06-2012, 01:54 PM
Earl Bruce was our first choice and he brings the type of experience and coaching ability to bring us a national championship

LOL

Hercules Rockefeller
12-06-2012, 01:56 PM
Do you have a feeling this time CU will just announce they hired someone and have a news conference.

Yes

pricejj
12-06-2012, 02:03 PM
Whoever the candidate is, they need to pull the entire CU administration in a room and demand:

1. a new state-of-the-art practice facility
2. and an above average PAC-12 salary for he and his entire staff
3. loosening of recruiting restrictions to PAC-12 minimum

Only after they have legally signed off on all three items, should they accept. I don't care if the guy wins a single game...if he can accomplish those 3 things, it is a success...making it far easier for the next head coach to succeed.

extralife
12-06-2012, 02:26 PM
CU is already offering 1 and 2, and they will never and should never offer 3.

DomCasual
12-06-2012, 02:28 PM
Earl Bruce was our first choice and he brings the type of experience and coaching ability to bring us a national championship

LOL

I think you got punked on the Earl Bruce thing. I'm pretty sure that was a joke.

Steve Sewell
12-06-2012, 02:29 PM
CU is already offering 1 and 2, and they will never and should never offer 3.

Don't say never. There's a reason the Buffs were one of the dominant teams of the late 80's and early 90's.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-06-2012, 02:30 PM
CU is already offering 1 and 2, and they will never and should never offer 3.

The restrictions were loosened when Hawk took over, and everyone who clears the NCAA Clearinghouse is being admitted.

Kaylore
12-06-2012, 02:32 PM
This is a big black mark on an already ugly looking program. Way to failboat your program into oblivion, CU. /shakes head

pricejj
12-06-2012, 02:40 PM
The restrictions were loosened when Hawk took over, and everyone who clears the NCAA Clearinghouse is being admittied.

So what is the problem then? Do the candidates not believe that CU will follow through...or do they just think it impossible to bring CU back to a winning record in a reasonable amount of time (3 years)?

NFLBRONCO
12-06-2012, 02:46 PM
are we at craigslist stage for next coach

broncswin
12-06-2012, 02:53 PM
Please tell me you guys aren't hook line and sinker for the Bruce thing...it was a joke

Hercules Rockefeller
12-06-2012, 03:05 PM
So what is the problem then? Do the candidates not believe that CU will follow through...or do they just think it impossible to bring CU back to a winning record in a reasonable amount of time (3 years)?

Bzedelik had it written in his contract that there would be basketball facility upgrades, I'm guessing they're going to put that in the contract of whoever they hire. I read elsewhere that Alfred said this afternoon they guaranteed $200M in facility upgrades to Jones.

I don't think they'd even require a winning season in 3 years, they know where they're at. They knew it would be difficult with Embree too, it was just so obvious that he and his entire staff had no idea what they were doing. Embree probably still would have been here if he was out recruiting his record, and they weren't getting curb-stomped every week. There's losing and showing progress, growth, development, etc., and there's losing and getting your **** pushed in by everyone.

Other than Jones, the AD has kept this process pretty quiet. None of us know whether he was choice #1 or choice #10, and while it's no consolation, Tennessee has had a tougher time finding a coach and more publicly too.

Bohn wanted a HC from an AQ conference, and other than Bielema going to Arkansas, I don't think there's been a HC that's switched from an AQ to an AQ this year. I think there was only 1 that did it last year too. Bohn's fishing in an area where no one is getting a bite right now, and that makes it look like no one wants the job when there's such a cluster**** with how this went down with Jones. This was basically "Peyton Watch" again, with him signing with the Titans or 49ers.

I still think it's going to be a non-BCS HC or a BCS coordinator that takes the job.

Rohirrim
12-06-2012, 03:08 PM
I hear Lou Holtz is available. :puff:

NFLBRONCO
12-06-2012, 03:10 PM
Bzedelik had it written in his contract that there would be basketball facility upgrades, I'm guessing they're going to put that in the contract of whoever they hire. I read elsewhere that Alfred said this afternoon they guaranteed $200M in facility upgrades to Jones.

I don't think they'd even require a winning season in 3 years, they know where they're at. They knew it would be difficult with Embree too, it was just so obvious that he and his entire staff had no idea what they were doing. Embree probably still would have been here if he was out recruiting his record, and they weren't getting curb-stomped every week. There's losing and showing progress, growth, development, etc., and there's losing and getting your **** pushed in by everyone.

Other than Jones, the AD has kept this process pretty quiet. None of us know whether he was choice #1 or choice #10, and while it's no consolation, Tennessee has had a tougher time finding a coach and more publicly too.

Bohn wanted a HC for an AQ conference, and other than Bielema going to Arkansas, I don't think there's been a HC that's switched from an AQ to an AQ this year. I think there was only 1 that did it last year too. Bohn's fishing in an area where no one is getting a bite right now, and that makes it look like no one wants the job when there's such a cluster**** with how this went down with Jones. This was basically "Peyton Watch" again, with him signing with the Titans or 49ers.

I still think it's going to be a non-BCS HC or a BCS coordinator that takes the job.

BCS Coordinator please

DomCasual
12-06-2012, 03:22 PM
Please tell me you guys aren't hook line and sinker for the Bruce thing...it was a joke

I still remember his last press conference with CSU like it was yesterday. He seemed old and out of touch then. I went back into my memory to try and remember how long ago that was. I guessed 1999. Holy crap - it was 1992! He's got to be in his 80's now!

pricejj
12-06-2012, 03:30 PM
...

Interesting...

I didn't know it was Bzdelik who got the basketball practice facility... and $200M in upgrades? That's some serious loot.

If they really are offering all those things, then maybe CU football finally is ready to turn the corner.

Lestat
12-06-2012, 06:28 PM
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that's about as dumb as you can get to mess up a coaching search.

theAPAOps5
12-06-2012, 06:47 PM
that's about as dumb as you can get to mess up a coaching search.

Bonn should be fired. He shouldn't have even directed the search. They look like clowns in how they handled it. The sad thing is they were given a clue to be private about the process when he got upset about photos at Purdue. All they have to do is keep quiet and act professional.

extralife
12-06-2012, 06:49 PM
Bonn should be fired. He shouldn't have even directed the search. They look like clowns in how they handled it. The sad thing is they were given a clue to be private about the process when he got upset about photos at Purdue. All they have to do is keep quiet and act professional.

CU look like idiots, but this Jones guy looks just as dumb. you don't want people to talk about your job status? you don't want people to ask you whether or not you are skipping town? then how about you don't advertise yourself as looking to take any job in the country. how about you don't go to the press conference of a football team you're trying to bail on. that might be a good start.

Lestat
12-06-2012, 07:04 PM
CU look like idiots, but this Jones guy looks just as dumb. you don't want people to talk about your job status? you don't want people to ask you whether or not you are skipping town? then how about you don't advertise yourself as looking to take any job in the country. how about you don't go to the press conference of a football team you're trying to bail on. that might be a good start.

bottom line, if you have the guy you want in your sights you respect his wishes.
it wasn't so much about stopping people from asking if you're skipping town.
he remembers the issues Cincy fans had when Kelly was leaving, it was a circus and he wanted to avoid it.

this is on CU and Bohn.

theAPAOps5
12-06-2012, 07:17 PM
bottom line, if you have the guy you want in your sights you respect his wishes.
it wasn't so much about stopping people from asking if you're skipping town.
he remembers the issues Cincy fans had when Kelly was leaving, it was a circus and he wanted to avoid it.

this is on CU and Bohn.

It's sad that everyone else can get that, yet they can't. And they were in face to face talks with him.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-06-2012, 09:31 PM
Dude is going to be Tennessee's next coach. He slow played CU waiting to see who filled that spot first, and when Strong turned it down, he became their top target. The leak is a convenient excuse.

NFLBRONCO
12-06-2012, 09:33 PM
Dude is going to be Tennessee's next coach. He slow played CU waiting to see who filled that spot first, and when Strong turned it down, he became their top target. The leak is a convenient excuse.

Agreed

Agamemnon
12-06-2012, 09:33 PM
CU is so ****ed as a program. It's going to take a miracle to fix this catastrophe within the next five years.

theAPAOps5
12-06-2012, 09:35 PM
Dude is going to be Tennessee's next coach. He slow played CU waiting to see who filled that spot first, and when Strong turned it down, he became their top target. The leak is a convenient excuse.

They got played like a fiddle. If they hadn't had been so HEY LOOK WHO WE ARE HIRING egg on face would be minimized.

razorwire77
12-06-2012, 10:49 PM
Did CU hire a firm to help them find a coach, or is Bohn just limp dicking and winging it?

spdirty
12-06-2012, 11:09 PM
Did CU hire a firm to help them find a coach, or is Bohn just limp dicking and winging it?

Bohn and Solich, the university's top booster. Should just sell the AD job to Solich. Couldn't do any worse than Bohn.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-07-2012, 07:30 AM
Bohn and Solich, the university's top booster. Should just sell the AD job to Solich. Couldn't do any worse than Bohn.

Solich actually gives a **** about football, so yeah, that would be nice.

Rohirrim
12-07-2012, 07:53 AM
These are the saddest days I can ever remember for the CU football program. Just pathetic to watch.

razorwire77
12-07-2012, 08:03 AM
All arm-chair quarterbacking aside, it's really sad when I genuinely believe that there are a dozen people in this thread that could do a better job of securing a decent coach for CU football than the people who are actually paid six figures to do it.

DBroncos4life
12-07-2012, 08:07 AM
These are the saddest days I can ever remember for the CU football program. Just pathetic to watch.

This post makes me smile after you what you said last week.:)

Rohirrim
12-07-2012, 10:40 AM
This post makes me smile after you what you said last week.:)

What did I say last week? ???

Rohirrim
12-07-2012, 11:21 AM
Bohn's problem now is, how does he offer less than $13.5 million to a lesser candidate for the job than Butch Jones?

pricejj
12-07-2012, 11:36 AM
Bohn's problem now is, how does he offer less than $13.5 million to a lesser candidate for the job than Butch Jones?

As long as he keeps the same facility upgrade guarantee's it doesn't matter. Jones went to Tennessee. Tennessee wouldn't bat an eyelash for any of the candidates we'll be considering.

SouthStndJunkie
12-07-2012, 11:04 PM
If I were Colorado, I'd go and hire Jim Tressel as my next head coach....and I'm a Michigan fan.

SouthStndJunkie
12-08-2012, 12:10 AM
I did some looking into it, and this will probably deter teams from hiring Jim Tressel:

The NCAA hit Tressel with a five-year show-cause penalty until December 2016, under which any school that wants to hire him must submit a report to the NCAA detailing why it needs to employ him and how it would monitor him to ensure he doesn't break its rules again. Any school hiring Tressel during the five-year period would be subject to more severe sanctions if he cheats again.

Even if a school hires Tressel, he will be suspended for the first five regular-season games when he returns, as well as any postseason contests.

Lestat
12-08-2012, 01:06 AM
once you get hit with a show cause penalty it essentially ends your coaching career.

Agamemnon
12-08-2012, 01:28 PM
Colorado is so screwed right now they might just have to ignore all that and hire Tressel anyway.

Lestat
12-08-2012, 01:34 PM
looks like Niumatalolo and DeRuyter are still interested in the job.
Niumatalolo would be a solid hire, but if it was me Chad Morris or Todd Monken would be getting vetted hard right now.

NFLBRONCO
12-08-2012, 01:49 PM
looks like Niumatalolo and DeRuyter are still interested in the job.
Niumatalolo would be a solid hire, but if it was me Chad Morris or Todd Monken would be getting vetted hard right now.

I like the guy for Navy but, I'd hate that at CU. Let's turn our fortunes around stay away from big conference hires solid work Bohn

SoCalBronco
12-08-2012, 03:46 PM
Cristobal would be decent for you guys. He could get your foot in the door into South Fla talent....he has charisma too.

Goobzilla
12-08-2012, 08:42 PM
looks like Niumatalolo and DeRuyter are still interested in the job.
Niumatalolo would be a solid hire, but if it was me Chad Morris or Todd Monken would be getting vetted hard right now.

I've only heard of DeRuyter and this is the problem CU has now. Bohn overpromised and will underdeliver because the hire won't be a "name" guy

Hercules Rockefeller
12-08-2012, 09:59 PM
One of the small radio stations in Boulder is saying Mullen is interviewing for the job.

Much like the Charlie Strong rumors, I'll believe it when I see it.

Lestat
12-08-2012, 10:11 PM
I've only heard of DeRuyter and this is the problem CU has now. Bohn overpromised and will underdeliver because the hire won't be a "name" guy

how the heck do you hear about DeRuyter but not Ken Niumatalolo when he coaches at Navy and was the OC for Paul Johnson at Navy before becoming head coach?

NFLBRONCO
12-08-2012, 10:34 PM
One of the small radio stations in Boulder is saying Mullen is interviewing for the job.

Much like the Charlie Strong rumors, I'll believe it when I see it.

Would you like this hire if true?

SoCalBronco
12-08-2012, 10:36 PM
IMO, Dan Mullen would be a VERY GOOD hire for CU. He's prolly only interviewing cause they are offering close to 3m per season. He would get CU back to 8 wins pretty fast, IMO (2 years).

Goobzilla
12-09-2012, 08:01 AM
how the heck do you hear about DeRuyter but not Ken Niumatalolo when he coaches at Navy and was the OC for Paul Johnson at Navy before becoming head coach?

Only know of DeRuyter because that's a name that was thrown out before Bohn made his big promises. Plus they said his name a lot while his team was ass blasting CU :wiggle:

Rohirrim
12-09-2012, 08:08 AM
IMO, Dan Mullen would be a VERY GOOD hire for CU. He's prolly only interviewing cause they are offering close to 3m per season. He would get CU back to 8 wins pretty fast, IMO (2 years).

I'd rather get a coach who is going to emulate David Shaw, rather than Chip Kelly.

24champ
12-09-2012, 12:04 PM
Sounds like CU is interested in Mullen and not the other way around. Doubt they get him.

maven
12-09-2012, 12:07 PM
CU that ****ty of a program now? Times have changed.

razorwire77
12-09-2012, 12:24 PM
Yet another coach using a CU interview as leverage to extract more money from a different school.

theAPAOps5
12-09-2012, 12:24 PM
Sounds like CU is interested in Mullen and not the other way around. Doubt they get him.

Apparently he spurned them once, or should I say said thanks but no thanks. It's why that rumor looks like just a rumor.

NFLBRONCO
12-09-2012, 12:34 PM
When do you see a coach hired before or after Christmas?

theAPAOps5
12-09-2012, 12:35 PM
When do you see a coach hired before or after Christmas?

A boat load this year.

Lestat
12-09-2012, 04:24 PM
Only know of DeRuyter because that's a name that was thrown out before Bohn made his big promises. Plus they said his name a lot while his team was ass blasting CU :wiggle:

damn that's cold Hilarious!

Hercules Rockefeller
12-10-2012, 08:37 AM
Sounds like Mike MacIntyre will soon be the former San Jose St HC and the new HC at CU.

edog24
12-10-2012, 08:46 AM
Sounds like Mike MacIntyre will soon be the former San Jose St HC and the new HC at CU.

This seems obscure, are we just out of options at this point? Anyone have any info on him? Are we screwed again?

Hercules Rockefeller
12-10-2012, 08:50 AM
1-12 to 10-2 in 3 seasons at SJS, I think they're even ranked 24th in the BCS.

Mountain Bronco
12-10-2012, 08:53 AM
I don't know much about him, can anyone fill me in?

NFLBRONCO
12-10-2012, 09:06 AM
1-12 to 10-2 in 3 seasons at SJS, I think they're even ranked 24th in the BCS.

What do you think of this hire Herc?

Hercules Rockefeller
12-10-2012, 09:11 AM
What do you think of this hire Herc?

Coached in the SEC and NFL, and built up SJS. He's got a solid resume.

He's not one of the splashy names everyone wanted, but I don't think it's a bad hire. It was always going to come down to staff, so let's see who he brings in.

NFLBRONCO
12-10-2012, 09:16 AM
Coached in the SEC and NFL, and built up SJS. He's got a solid resume.

He's not one of the splashy names everyone wanted, but I don't think it's a bad hire. It was always going to come down to staff, so let's see who he brings in.

Thanks for breakdown Herc

Lestat
12-10-2012, 09:46 AM
really good coach, program builder and a solid hire.
the question is as Herc said, who will be on his staff?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-10-2012, 10:06 AM
I don't believe it until Woody Paige tweets about it.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-10-2012, 10:12 AM
Seems like the national press likes the hire-
Stewart Mandel (SI)- home run
Ted Miller (ESPN)- Butch Jones turning the job down might have been a blessing in disguise

pricejj
12-10-2012, 10:20 AM
It became a little easier for McIntyre to finish 2nd in the WAC this year after the top four teams left (Boise State, Nevada, Fresno State, Hawaii). Couple that with a good college QB (David Fales, Jr.), and you can fairly easily beat the Idaho's, Louisiana Tech's, and New Mexico State's of the world.

I find it difficult to imagine McIntyre improving upon Embree's 4-21 record over the next two years. At least McIntyre should be a able to recruit a good QB from California...that will be his only saving grace.

Requiem
12-10-2012, 10:23 AM
They must have paid him 80 million a year.

oubronco
12-10-2012, 10:37 AM
Damn CU has hit rock bottom

Lestat
12-10-2012, 10:38 AM
Mac is a Brady Hoke type, really good coach and well respected amongst his peers.

in other news Mr. Bobby Petrino is now the new head coach at Western Kentucky.

sinuous sausage
12-10-2012, 10:46 AM
Mac is a Brady Hoke type, really good coach and well respected amongst his peers.

in other news Mr. Bobby Petrino is now the new head coach at Western Kentucky.

hilltoppers, bishes

Rohirrim
12-10-2012, 11:14 AM
Well, it's in Wiki, so it must be true:

George Michael "Mike" MacIntyre[1] (born March 14, 1965) is the head football coach at the University of Colorado.[2] He was previously the head coach of San Jose State University for three years and defensive coordinator for the Duke Blue Devils.

He recruited Patrick Willis to Ole Miss so he can't be all bad, although you can never trust anybody from Miami. ;D

He coached dbacks under Parcells, so that's good. He got rid of the spread at SJS, so that's also good.

So far, I like. ;D

Kaylore
12-10-2012, 11:32 AM
This is a good hire for CU. He is a west guy, knows how to recruit from the region, and is used to rebuilding garbage programs. They'll give him time to do his thing. I honestly think this might be better for CU than Butch Jones. I know some will say that just because he snubbed them, but I don't have any connection to CU and this makes more sense on a variety of levels.

24champ
12-10-2012, 11:42 AM
Good hire for Colorado, 1-11 seasons won't help the PAC12. Hope they become respectable again.

NFLBRONCO
12-10-2012, 11:46 AM
This is a good hire for CU. He is a west guy, knows how to recruit from the region, and is used to rebuilding garbage programs.

This is why I didn't want Jones in first place and then he acted like Cutler and I wanted him even less. We needed a guy that can rebuild garbage programs.

razorwire77
12-10-2012, 11:58 AM
Mike MacIntyre is a solid hire. I surprised (in a good way) for CU. He'll have this team playing watchable football right out of the gate. Hopefully, he'll be given the resources to make solid assistant coaching hires.

SpringStein
12-10-2012, 12:46 PM
This is why I didn't want Jones in first place and then he acted like Cutler and I wanted him even less. We needed a guy that can rebuild garbage programs.

Hilarious!

Kaylore
12-10-2012, 01:44 PM
Did Cutler hide behind a food cart?

Lestat
12-10-2012, 02:04 PM
Did Cutler hide behind a food cart?

no but people will still say the father turning in playbook play was worse.

pricejj
12-10-2012, 02:16 PM
At least we know McIntyre can handle 13 game losing streaks...which is more than I can say for Butch Jones.

Mountain Bronco
12-10-2012, 03:06 PM
Butch Jones came off as a disingenuous diva flirting with the entire nation then taking a SEC job. He won't last 4 years in the SEC with that attitude. I hope CU got the better coach and they might have, considering Butch Jones really road Kelly's coat tails for the past 6 years.

From what I read MacIntyre had a vision that worked at SJS and hopefully has a vision for CU that will work as well.

24champ
12-10-2012, 03:11 PM
no but people will still say the father turning in playbook play was worse.

I'd say hiding behind a food cart was definitely worse....c'mon a freaking food cart! LOL

Tombstone RJ
12-10-2012, 03:15 PM
way to go CU, I guess. Hopefully Wristen ends up at CSU if the current coach continues to stink it up (CSU actually lost to CU this year).

Lestat
12-10-2012, 03:44 PM
Butch Jones came off as a disingenuous diva flirting with the entire nation then taking a SEC job. He won't last 4 years in the SEC with that attitude. I hope CU got the better coach and they might have, considering Butch Jones really road Kelly's coat tails for the past 6 years.

From what I read MacIntyre had a vision that worked at SJS and hopefully has a vision for CU that will work as well.

you're kidding right? he visited with the teams he was serious about seeing more of. he didn't want news to get to his team before he told them himself and got the chance to coach at a big time program in the SEC that needs rebuilding but has all the tools in place.

Jones knows how to build a program and is a offensive genius.
this post by you is severe sour grapes or uninformed ranting.

24champ
12-10-2012, 04:04 PM
way to go CU, I guess. Hopefully Wristen ends up at CSU if the current coach continues to stink it up (CSU actually lost to CU this year).

CSU won this year.

spdirty
12-10-2012, 04:11 PM
Hope this is the guy that gets CU respectable. Liked what I heard from the presser. Like the fact that he will hit Colorado hard and considers California in state. Hopefully if/when he gets CU respectable again he'll change his mind on Texas recruits. But I understand his reasoning for right now.

Lestat
12-10-2012, 04:37 PM
whoa, didn't realize he's gonna be making 2 mil a year. nice little raise for him.

Tombstone RJ
12-10-2012, 04:40 PM
CSU won this year.

oh, well ok then. They still managed to suck.

Requiem
12-10-2012, 05:02 PM
CSU won this year.

North Dakota State gave it to the Rams on their home turf. We got dirty on them. NDSU isn't ready for the FBS commitment for a few reasons, but they keep beating FBS teams. Five more years owning the FCS (we are going to win it again this year) and we will get our call. HOLLA AT JOE MAYS AND YOUR BOIS.

Agamemnon
12-10-2012, 05:27 PM
It became a little easier for McIntyre to finish 2nd in the WAC this year after the top four teams left (Boise State, Nevada, Fresno State, Hawaii). Couple that with a good college QB (David Fales, Jr.), and you can fairly easily beat the Idaho's, Louisiana Tech's, and New Mexico State's of the world.

I find it difficult to imagine McIntyre improving upon Embree's 4-21 record over the next two years. At least McIntyre should be a able to recruit a good QB from California...that will be his only saving grace.

A guy who can take over an abysmal San Diego State team and come within 3 points of beating Stanford in his third year has something going on. At this point I'd be ecstatic if CU could be that competitive with the Cardinal.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-10-2012, 06:40 PM
Said he wouldn't have taken the job if there weren't facility upgrades in his contract

spdirty
12-10-2012, 07:33 PM
Said he wouldn't have taken the job if there weren't facility upgrades in his contract

Great. Hope there are dates for breaking ground written into the contract as well.

Lestat
12-10-2012, 07:59 PM
no coach worth a damn was coming to CU without facilities upgrades in the contract.

Dukes
12-10-2012, 09:47 PM
5 year contract. Anyone believe he lasts that long with the current admin in charge?

BroncoBuff
12-11-2012, 01:32 AM
Hopefully Wristen ends up at CSU if the current coach continues to stink it up.

So Wristen's good enough for the Rams - who've played us 50-50 the past 10 years - but not for CU?

Must admit I like MacIntyre alot, more than Butch Davis, almost as much as Wristen. ^5


5 year contract. Anyone believe he lasts that long with the current admin in charge?

Or "Anyone believe he lasts that long with his record for moving so often?" Bothers me some he never stays anywhere very long ... 1 and 2 year stops all the way between Division III and the NFL. 3 years at San Jose the longest he's stayed anywhere.

Actually, MacIntyre and Wristen are very similar. Same age, both started coaching in 1990. Both worked miracles in their only head-coaching job. I hope Wristen is promoted to CSU's main campus, see how they match up. My money's on Wristen, more stable/loyal, doesn't have one eye looking for his next job. FYI: MacIntyre signed a 5-year contract extension this past January.

Wristen - 5 jobs in 23 years
MacIntyre- 10 jobs 23 years

BroncoBuff
12-11-2012, 01:38 AM
Other than MacIntyre, best part of this thread is SoCal thinking there's a chance we could be competitive recruiting South Florida ... thanks SoCal!! ^5

spdirty
12-11-2012, 05:48 AM
So Wristen's good enough for the Rams - who've played us 50-50 the past 10 years - but not for CU?

Must admit I like MacIntyre alot, more than Butch Davis, almost as much as Wristen. ^5




Or "Anyone believe he lasts that long with his record for moving so often?" Bothers me some he never stays anywhere very long ... 1 and 2 year stops all the way between Division III and the NFL. 3 years at San Jose the longest he's stayed anywhere.

Actually, MacIntyre and Wristen are very similar. Same age, both started coaching in 1990. Both worked miracles in their only head-coaching job. I hope Wristen is promoted to CSU's main campus, see how they match up. My money's on Wristen, more stable/loyal, doesn't have one eye looking for his next job. FYI: MacIntyre signed a 5-year contract extension this past January.

Wristen - 5 jobs in 23 years
MacIntyre- 10 jobs 23 years

If he looks at CU as another rung on the ladder he's climbing and leaves for something better after 3 years then that means that maybe he left the program in good shape. Gotta look for the positives in any situation. :)