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DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-24-2012, 11:56 AM
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Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, November 23, 2012, 6:10 PM


Only 50 Wal-Mart employees joined in on the nation-wide Black Friday union protests.
It was a complete failure – although the media probably won’t report it that way.

And it was a record day for Wal-Mart!




Wal-Mart claimed today that the much-hyped Black Friday protests at the non-union retail giant fizzled out, with only 50 associates – their term for employees – taking part. The United Food and Commercial Workers union, which organized the protests, disputed that figure though. It said “hundreds and hundreds” joined in at events across the country. The Washington Examiner could not find an independent estimate for the protests.

Even assuming the UFCW figure is correct, that is pretty small given that Wal-Mart is the nation’s largest employer, with 1.4 million people working at its stores. Wal-Mart also claimed at least 10 million transactions since its stores opened late Thursday, which would make 2012 its best Black Friday ever.

The UFCW, whose members mainly work for Wal-Mart’s competitors, has long battled the retail giant. It backed it a now-defunct non-profit group called Wake-Up Walmart, which attacked the retailer. More recently, it has backed groups called OUR Walmart and Making Change at Walmart.

Last week, Wal-Mart filed an unfair practices claim against UFCW with the National Labor Relations Board, claiming the group’s protests were disrupting its business. Labor law prevents unions from picketing for more that 30 days without filing a petition to represent its members.

UFCW had hoped that protests and staff walk-outs on Black Friday would paralyze the retailer and draw media attention. It claimed to have events in 46 states including Atlanta, Miami, Dallas, Wisconsin, Chicago, and Washington DC. Dan Schlademan, director of Making Change at Walmart, told the website Raw Story “hundreds and hundreds” of workers took part. On Twitter, the company posted clips and video from various events.

In a statement, Wal-Mart responded:

“Only 26 protests occurred at stores last night and many of them did not include any Walmart associates.” In addition, the company did not experience the walk-offs that were promised by the UFCW. “We estimate that less than 50 associates participated in the protest nationwide. In fact, this year, roughly the same number of associates missed their scheduled shift as last year,” [CEO Bill] Simon said.

The press release then pointed to some of the reasons people may have been disinclined to walk off.

Walmart associates receive a 10 percent discount on general merchandise bought at Walmart stores all year long. Earlier this holiday season, the company rewarded associates with a special holiday discount of 10 percent off most food items from November 9 to January 1 to help make the holidays for its associates and their families even more special.

Also, to recognize those associates who helped serve customers during its Black Friday events, the company is providing an additional 10 percent discount on an entire basket of goods. Eligible associates who helped execute Walmart’s Black Friday events will also receive holiday pay.

On Twitter, Wal-Mart said: “The number of protests being reported by the UFCW are grossly exaggerated & prove that this group doesn’t speak for our 1.3M Walmart assocs.”

UPDATE: The Service Employees International Union President Mary Kay Henry claimed in a press release emailed to reporters that “thousands” of Wal-Mart employees had walked off the job today. In the statement, which is not currently online, she said:

Today’s protests at Walmart stores across the country are a reminder of the enormous power of working people uniting to demand a better future with a living wage, affordable healthcare and respect on the job. From this day on, ‘Black Friday’ should be remembered as a pivotal day for working people at Walmart and everywhere.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/fail-only-50-wal-mart-employees-joined-nation-wide-union-protests-today-video/



http://washingtonexaminer.com/wal-mart-only-50-employees-protested-ufcw-disputes/article/2514212#.ULElie8hPSw

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-24-2012, 11:57 AM
well guess most walmart employees are happy enough to stay on the job

Rohirrim
11-24-2012, 12:19 PM
I'm sure it has much more to do with the fear than it does with satisfaction.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-24-2012, 12:28 PM
I'm sure it has much more to do with the fear than it does with satisfaction.

fear of what there is plenty of jobs around they can always quit and work some place else now can they

peacepipe
11-24-2012, 12:34 PM
fear of what there is plenty of jobs around they can always quit and work some place else now can they

Why do that when you can go union right where your at.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-24-2012, 01:11 PM
fear of what there is plenty of jobs around they can always quit and work some place else now can they

Riiiiiiiiiiight - working at Wal-Mart is so great they all decided to pass on better opportunities elsewhere.

You're a genius. ::)

Play2win
11-24-2012, 01:40 PM
You would think that working at Walmart, would be your absolute last option.

cutthemdown
11-24-2012, 02:38 PM
I ahve a friend who works part time at one in Ariz. He works in sporting goods, they sell guns there. I always trip out could you imagine if calif walmarts sold rifles etc etc?

He loves the 10% because he buys lots of guns and ammo. The 10% off is a pretty good thing, I bet their employees take advantage of that a lot.

Really though the union BS is just that. They only want those 1.4 million workers for their union dues, it has nothing to do with fairness or working conditions anymore.

Rohirrim
11-24-2012, 06:46 PM
fear of what there is plenty of jobs around they can always quit and work some place else now can they

English, mother ****er. Do you speak it?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-24-2012, 06:50 PM
Bad news for Spammer Dan and the rest of the anti-democracy/pro-corporatocracy wingnuts...

Walmart Strikers Energized By Large Turnouts Nationwide

(Images/video)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/11/23/walmart-strikers-energized-by-large-turnouts-nationwide-imagesvideo/

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-24-2012, 06:52 PM
English, mother ****er. Do you speak it?

He's an embarrassment, isn't he?

Right-wingers are like America's "Cousin Eddie."

cutthemdown
11-24-2012, 07:16 PM
I wonder if Walmart will just fire the ones who participated? Or just let them come back to work and maybe hope it dies down? I read the articles but none said what walmarts plan was for the few hundred that participated. Did Walmart say they could keep jobs?

lonestar
11-24-2012, 07:18 PM
English, mother ****er. Do you speak it?

what is the problem with the far left thinking that civility is a lost art..

It is so typical of the far left democrat/liberal/socialist/commies/progressives ( take your pick) to call names and/or change the subject.

That said not everyone is an English professor that post here.

Every forum I have ever been on is informal and only rarely had a grammar cop, or spelling Nazi always pissing and moaning about members posts..

Yet here it seems everyone from the far left democrat/liberal/socialist/commies/progressives has to weigh in on it..

lonestar
11-24-2012, 07:21 PM
I wonder if Walmart will just fire the ones who participated? Or just let them come back to work and maybe hope it dies down? I read the articles but none said what walmarts plan was for the few hundred that participated. Did Walmart say they could keep jobs?

I'd guess that they would look at the employees work history and what kind of worker he/she is.. If they are habitual slackers they would be gone.. It would be just the tip of the ice berg to keep a moron employed..

cutthemdown
11-24-2012, 07:23 PM
You would think that working at Walmart, would be your absolute last option.

Not a bad place to get your first job, get some experience. Or not bad if say you need extra money but can't commit to anything bigger because of a different job. They offer hours at night, part time work etc so there is some appeal for someone who just wants to work nights for a short time to get extra money.

It's ridiculous to blame Walmart for how they do business. Walmart is dirt cheap prices, the lowest wages, they go hand in hand. No one I know ever goes to Walmart we are middle class we shop at Target LOL! Just kidding they are all the same. Discount stores shouldnt be counted on by the left to provide career worthy jobs people get healthcare at and raise a family.

If Walmart is as good as you can do because of laziness, skill level, ignorance, whatever then you shouldn't have a family anyways. You can use the 150 bucks a month you get from walmart to rent a room somewhere.

Sorry but some people just aren't worth more the 8 bucks an hour, 9 etc. Some at Walmart are worth more, they will move on to better paying jobs in the future as they gain education or experience.

You know go down to a place that is union and get a job if they pay more.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-24-2012, 07:24 PM
what is the problem with the far left thinking that civility is a lost art..

It is so typical of the far left democrat/liberal/socialist/commies/progressives ( take your pick) to call names and/or change the subject.

That said not everyone is an English professor that post here.

Every forum I have ever been on is informal and only rarely had a grammar cop, or spelling Nazi always pissing and moaning about members posts..

Yet here it seems everyone from the far left democrat/liberal/socialist/commies/progressives has to weigh in on it..

Goober-to-English Translation:

Proper English isn't important to the average right-wing dick neck.......except when he's busting some poor immigrant's chops.

myMind
11-24-2012, 08:50 PM
The OP article/video should check their math.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-24-2012, 09:48 PM
English, mother ****er. Do you speak it?

if walmart is sooo ****ty why are they working there why not get a union job and pay union dues.
works so well for my buddy in indy

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-24-2012, 09:50 PM
gee love to get people soo gosh darn angry and dey all hates me now i might cry
:( : : : : : : <----tears of sadness i hopes no wun else sayz bad things to me i might just cut muh self lmfao

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-24-2012, 10:03 PM
Riiiiiiiiiiight - working at Wal-Mart is so great they all decided to pass on better opportunities elsewhere.

You're a genius. ::)

thank you thank you i know i am a genius you finally see that i am btw my real name is lex, lex luther

cutthemdown
11-24-2012, 11:55 PM
What a bunch of BS trying to call someone out for some grammar BS. It's BS because when its a poster you like Roh you don't do that. Two faced much?

Odysseus
11-25-2012, 12:34 AM
You would think that working at Walmart, would be your absolute last option.

For retirees, underemployed, and single parents it probably is.

cutthemdown
11-25-2012, 01:13 AM
For retirees, underemployed, and single parents it probably is.

So without Walmart they would be unemployed right?

cutthemdown
11-25-2012, 01:17 AM
You pick on a business that is low skill, discount retailer, then blame them for poor people not making enough money. I just don't get that. I know some young paralegals with 2 yrs school, 1 full yr interning at a law office or for PD, or DA etc, that only make 14 bucks an hour. it's a tough job and you have to be smart. Eventually you can make 40-45 grand with rare exceptions at super big firms. Most of those paralegals though are law school graduates that could not pass the bar and just give up.

Seriously though you have a lot of stress for that 14-20 bucks an hour. 8-9 bucks is fair for a walmart job. In fact its more then fair.

Odysseus
11-25-2012, 02:08 AM
So without Walmart they would be unemployed right?

Walmart exists because of the premise of your logic. The only way anything that is stated will be clear to you is if you were willing to look at an alternative way of doing business. If you limit the options to take it or leave it then the only person you deceive is yourself. There are other choices but you are unable, unwilling, or incapable of open discussion.

I think without WalMart there would be something else. My point, which you missed, was a discussion about what else should there be. The only creativity that conservatives have lately is in creating new terminology for the word fear. What if the larger discussion had no fear, blame or anger. What would we talk about then?

Odysseus
11-25-2012, 02:13 AM
You pick on a business that is low skill, discount retailer, then blame them for poor people not making enough money. I just don't get that. I know some young paralegals with 2 yrs school, 1 full yr interning at a law office or for PD, or DA etc, that only make 14 bucks an hour. it's a tough job and you have to be smart. Eventually you can make 40-45 grand with rare exceptions at super big firms. Most of those paralegals though are law school graduates that could not pass the bar and just give up.

Seriously though you have a lot of stress for that 14-20 bucks an hour. 8-9 bucks is fair for a walmart job. In fact its more then fair.

WalMart is being subsidized directly and indirectly by Federal dollars. This is called corporate welfare. That means our tax dollars are being spent to perpetuate how Walmart does business.

Corporate welfare and corporate greed was my point. If you look at the problem from the grocery store bagger you'll never get what I am talking about.

lonestar
11-25-2012, 08:33 AM
What a bunch of BS trying to call someone out for some grammar BS. It's BS because when its a poster you like Roh you don't do that. Two faced much?

Yep a lot of that goes on here.

The "professors" seem to belittle as a pack of wolves would snapping, and back biting until they bring their prey down.

A really sad thing for folks that claim to have compassion in their hearts.

But it is what it is, just more Male Bovine Excretment. Since cliton the far left have have their attack dogs savaging anything but their agenda.

Keep up the good fight, do not let them cut you down. :thumbs:

Rohirrim
11-25-2012, 09:27 AM
Yep a lot of that goes on here.

The "professors" seem to belittle as a pack of wolves would snapping, and back biting until they bring their prey down.

A really sad thing for folks that claim to have compassion in their hearts.

But it is what it is, just more Male Bovine Excretment. Since cliton the far left have have their attack dogs savaging anything but their agenda.

Keep up the good fight, do not let them cut you down. :thumbs:

Geez. Lighten up. I was only kidding. It's a quote from Pulp Fiction. Anyway, you tell me what his sentence meant: fear of what there is plenty of jobs around they can always quit and work some place else now can they

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-25-2012, 04:14 PM
what tax credits do business get. would you people eliminate the one that gives tax breaks for vets handicapped ?
and i was thinking about walmart at least the one i go to its either young people or old people .
they seem to be happy working there thats the vibe i got and with jobs so hard to come by ,why not work at walmart ?
yet people think walmart is the gateway to hell .
again if people dont like walmart dont shop there.
if you think walmart is a cheap place to work dont work for them.
its a simple solution

chadta
11-25-2012, 04:53 PM
again if people dont like walmart dont shop there.
if you think walmart is a cheap place to work dont work for them.
its a simple solution

That would mean taking personal responsibility for the position one finds oneself in. Its easier to blame the man.

Walmart should not be subsidized, but you lefties on here bitching and moaning about it isn't going to make them change, they make a lot of money, if it bothers you don't have anything to do with them, not sure what http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/ will use more new material if that happens.

Until the workers say enough is enough, I'm not going to accept those conditions of employment, and it cant just be one or 2, it needs to be a good number of them, as long as most of them just go to work and take it, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

For the record Yes I have quit a job because I felt I was being taken advantage of, and no I didn't have another job lined up when I did it. When I went in and asked my boss for a raise, upon being denied I asked for a letter of reference because I was going to have to start looking for another job, his reply " sure ill do that, you wont leave tho, you'll be here forever" I will never forget those words, I handed in my letter of resignation the next day, didn't have anywhere to go, but i couldn't stay there, not under those conditions, but then I have some self respect.

cutthemdown
11-25-2012, 05:42 PM
WalMart is being subsidized directly and indirectly by Federal dollars. This is called corporate welfare. That means our tax dollars are being spent to perpetuate how Walmart does business.

Corporate welfare and corporate greed was my point. If you look at the problem from the grocery store bagger you'll never get what I am talking about.

Ok so your problem is the govt doesn't get enough tax from them? What are the numbers on that. As in what did walmart pay in corp tax last yr?

I don't see walmart paying all the much lower then what kmart or sears does to start off do they? I would think a discount store would be a place for entry level, or part time work for someone who had another part time job.

I think 8 bucks an hour about right for the skill level. Maybe you need HS diploma at most.

Whatever tax breaks they get I am really not up on. But I am sure they are all legal. So I am sure other companies use the same ones right?

I'm really wondering what you want Walmart to do? Just go union? make less money? They have a minimum wage to indicate the pay for the lowest of skilled jobs. Those are like discount retail, fast food, restaurant work, etc etc.

Really this just another witchhunt. You don't cry about corp welfare for auto industry. hell we bailed them out a lot more then Walmart will ever get. Same with all the unemployment extensions for union construction people on welfare who the unions couldn't keep on the job somewhere. So union not exactly some we don't need the govt entity. And they dont insure you get to work either. A lot of the time they put business under with demands.

barryr
11-25-2012, 06:41 PM
Walmart employs so many people and those that hate that company would like nothing better than to see them closed with an economy already hurting for jobs.

lonestar
11-25-2012, 06:56 PM
That would mean taking personal responsibility for the position one finds oneself in. Its easier to blame the man.

Walmart should not be subsidized, but you lefties on here b****ing and moaning about it isn't going to make them change, they make a lot of money, if it bothers you don't have anything to do with them, not sure what http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/ will use more new material if that happens.

Until the workers say enough is enough, I'm not going to accept those conditions of employment, and it cant just be one or 2, it needs to be a good number of them, as long as most of them just go to work and take it, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

For the record Yes I have quit a job because I felt I was being taken advantage of, and no I didn't have another job lined up when I did it. When I went in and asked my boss for a raise, upon being denied I asked for a letter of reference because I was going to have to start looking for another job, his reply " sure ill do that, you wont leave tho, you'll be here forever" I will never forget those words, I handed in my letter of resignation the next day, didn't have anywhere to go, but i couldn't stay there, not under those conditions, but then I have some self respect.

Good for you. I got a job after getting out of the Navy, servicing cars at Avis RAC worked the night shift and it was not bad because I could watch the baby during the day when Momma went to work.

After a while though did much the same thing, started looking for jobs and had a couple offers, went in to talk to the manager to tell him I had them and would be giving notice, he offered to put me on the counter.. That started a career with them that ultimately led to being the station manager of the largest airport operation in the Avis world. Retired there after 20 plus years to get away from the rat race that it was.

So one can start small and move up if you have the will to work hard.

That said not everyone at Walmart is so motivated.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-25-2012, 07:26 PM
again if people dont like walmart dont shop there.
if you think walmart is a cheap place to work dont work for them.
its a simple solution

And you're happy to go on paying for Wal-Mart's employees' food stamps so the billionaires you worship don't have to, right?

That makes SO much sense - especially from a conservative POV. ::)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-25-2012, 08:08 PM
Dan and the right-wing lie machine vs. reality:

FAIL… Only 50 Wal-Mart Employees Joined Nation-wide Union Protests

1,000 Walmart protests across the US (http://www.salon.com/2012/11/23/1000_walmart_protests_across_the_us/)

An update on nationwide strikes and solidarity demonstrations VIDEO

By Natasha Lennard (http://www.salon.com/writer/natasha_lennard/)

A Walmart press release this morning downplayed what commentators have called historic strike actions (http://www.salon.com/2012/11/20/walmarts_black_friday_showdown/) by Walmart workers this Black Friday across the United States.

The release noted that “the same number of associates missed their scheduled shift as last year,” but hundreds of protests in 46 states beginning Thursday evening have drawn attention to the retailer’s poor labor practices while according to The Nation, workers struck at stores in Dallas, Kenosha, Wis., San Leandro, Calif., and Clovis, N.M. At least one worker went out on strike at stores in Ocean City, Md., Orlando and Baton Rouge.

Rep.-elect Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) joined (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Alan-Grayson-helps-Walmart-worker-walk-off-job-in-Black-Friday-protest/-/1637132/17528464/-/3xykrk/-/index.html) a Walmart worker as she walked off her job in St. Cloud.

Walmart stores rang up almost 10 million transactions from the time doors opened for Black Friday shoppers at 8 p.m. Thursday until midnight. Meanwhile the following strikes and protest actions have been reported:


Dozens of protesters supported strikers in Miami when they walked off the job last night. (http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/11/23/walmart-employees-protest-in-front-of-miami-store/)

500 workers and supporters marched on a Walmart in Landover, MD.

Striking Chicago workers and their supporters marched on several Walmart stores in Illinois beginning at 5:30 a.m. Friday morning.

Striking workers in Duarte, Calif. (https://twitter.com/ForRespect/status/271998859297837056/photo/1) formed a picket lined up in front of their store.

In Florida, U.S. Rep.-elect Alan Grayson walked a worker off her job (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Alan-Grayson-helps-Walmart-worker-walk-off-job/-/1637132/17528464/-/1318ugkz/-/index.html) Thursday night and then joined workers on the picket line Friday morning.

Dozens protested with striking workers in San Leandro, Calif. (http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2012/1122/Black-Friday-liveblog-Is-not-shopping-unpatriotic)

Workers in Clovis and Albuquerque in New Mexico, walked off the job. (http://kunm.org/post/new-mexico-walmart-workers-activists-plan-joint-protests-black-friday)

In Lancaster, Texas, Dallas police ushered strikers (http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/Union-helps-Texas-Walmart-workers-stage-protest--180586401.html) off of Walmart property, but they continued their protest nearby.

The walkout in Kenosha, Wisc. was amplified by a light show last night. (https://twitter.com/RickSmithShow/status/271813076192481281/photo/1) And workers are now on strike (http://vimeo.com/54147131) in Milwaukee, Wisc.

In Quincy, Mass. supporters projected a 30-foot “Stand Up, Live Better” (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.380832045337788.94383.100176396736689&type=1) message on facade of a Walmart supercenter. They distributed 650 flyers, 500 sets of handwarmers, and 300 “I support Walmart workers’ rights!” stickers to customers waiting in line, along with thank you cards for Associates.

A civil disobedience took place in Paramount, outside Los Angeles, noted Josh Eidelson (http://www.thenation.com/blog/171430/black-friday-begins-early-walmart-workers-already-striking-least-seven-states-updated-75#)at the Nation: “Organizers say 1,500 workers and supporters are demonstrating against retaliation. Nine people have been arrested for sitting in the street on Lakewood Boulevard, including three striking Walmart retail workers from area stores: Charlene Fletcher and William Fletcher from Duarte, and Martha Sellers from Paramount.”


Eidelson posted (http://www.thenation.com/blog/171430/black-friday-begins-early-walmart-workers-already-striking-least-seven-states-updated-75#) this video of protesters demonstrating inside a Maryland store:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7QxMC70JS2o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Continue Reading (http://www.salon.com/2012/11/23/1000_walmart_protests_across_the_us/)

cutthemdown
11-25-2012, 11:47 PM
Holy Cow Walmart has 2.1 million employees. Mutha that is a lot of employees. So LABF and the liberal press say 1000. Walmart says way less current employees. So lets just play it safe and take that 1000 and double it. Make it 2000.

out of 2.1 million employees that isn't near enough to go union.

No wonder that union is sniffing around. They won't be able to get much more per hour for them but get just 100 a yr in dues and look at all that jack.

Amazing liberals dont see this for what it is. Unions should be protecting higher skilled workers like brick layers, drywallers, electricians, welders etc. This going after low skill retail is a joke.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-26-2012, 12:20 AM
And you're happy to go on paying for Wal-Mart's employees' food stamps so the billionaires you worship don't have to, right?

That makes SO much sense - especially from a conservative POV. ::)
again if YOU And OTHER PEOPLE DONT LIKE WALMART then DONT SHOP WALMART
DONT WORK FOR WALMART
im going to shop at walmart, dollar tree ,entertainment mart, burger king McDonald , wendy's , jack in the box , ebay , any other place i want to IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THATS YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINE !
BUT I WILL NOT BUY PETS FROM PLACES THAT BUY FROM PUPPY MILLS
IE PET CITY rest of you can but i wont ,i either get my pets from animal shelters or private individuals or orgs that rescue unwanted pets like this lil fellow i adopted
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120718175636/en.futurama/images/d/da/Nibbler-futurama-66787_545_700.jpg
im shure he will make a fine family pet

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-26-2012, 01:12 AM
what good are union dues ?

lonestar
11-26-2012, 01:24 AM
Holy Cow Walmart has 2.1 million employees. Mutha that is a lot of employees. So LABF and the liberal press say 1000. Walmart says way less current employees. So lets just play it safe and take that 1000 and double it. Make it 2000.

out of 2.1 million employees that isn't near enough to go union.

No wonder that union is sniffing around. They won't be able to get much more per hour for them but get just 100 a yr in dues and look at all that jack.

Amazing liberals dont see this for what it is. Unions should be protecting higher skilled workers like brick layers, drywallers, electricians, welders etc. This going after low skill retail is a joke.

Not sure the 2.1 million number is correct. The last number I heard was 1.2. Still a lot of folks.

Btw the folks they are going after for the most part are dumb enough to buy the unions bull crap. Promise them the moon and most will buy into it.

Odysseus
11-26-2012, 06:06 AM
Ok so your problem is the govt doesn't get enough tax from them? What are the numbers on that. As in what did walmart pay in corp tax last yr?

I don't see walmart paying all the much lower then what kmart or sears does to start off do they? I would think a discount store would be a place for entry level, or part time work for someone who had another part time job.

I think 8 bucks an hour about right for the skill level. Maybe you need HS diploma at most.

Whatever tax breaks they get I am really not up on. But I am sure they are all legal. So I am sure other companies use the same ones right?

I'm really wondering what you want Walmart to do? Just go union? make less money? They have a minimum wage to indicate the pay for the lowest of skilled jobs. Those are like discount retail, fast food, restaurant work, etc etc.

Really this just another witchhunt. You don't cry about corp welfare for auto industry. hell we bailed them out a lot more then Walmart will ever get. Same with all the unemployment extensions for union construction people on welfare who the unions couldn't keep on the job somewhere. So union not exactly some we don't need the govt entity. And they dont insure you get to work either. A lot of the time they put business under with demands.

Let's replace WalMart with a company that you think is good corporate citizen. I would be interested to see what you knew about corporate citizenship. Pick a company that you think is righteous.

Nobody is going to destroy your precious Walmart. The point is conversation about corporate greed. I don't care IF they money I am talking about HOW they are making money. Maybe I wasn't clear. Do you like the way WalMart does it corporate business?

Play2win
11-26-2012, 07:18 AM
Seriously, isn't there a correlation between Walmart and Ma Bell?

cutthemdown
11-26-2012, 10:28 AM
Actually no corporation gives more to charity then Walmart.

lonestar
11-26-2012, 10:39 AM
Actually no corporation gives more to charity then Walmart.

BUT BUT BUT the make a profit did you not know that should be against the law?

Blart
11-26-2012, 02:39 PM
Do you really believe Walmart's press release?

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Fedaykin
11-26-2012, 02:58 PM
Actually no corporation gives more to charity then Walmart.

Nah, that's bull****.

They have the highest total, but only because they have the largest profit (profit which is in large part received through exploitation of employees, local municipalities, tax loopholes, etc.)

They gave $320 million in 2010, which is about 2% of profits (on $16bn net income).

Compare that to Kroger, one of their largest competitors who donated 11% of their profits.

Or Macy's, another competitor, 8%

Or Safeway, another competitor, 7.5%

Hell, even the ****ing scummiest corps like Morgan Stanley (5.7%) gave more.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-10-most-charitable-companies-in-america.html

cutthemdown
11-26-2012, 04:36 PM
It's a fact Walmart gave the most money of any corporation.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-26-2012, 04:53 PM
Seriously, isn't there a correlation between Walmart and Ma Bell?

safeway king soopers , sears ,kmart, home depot ,sports authority ,entertainment mart , just to name a few competitors . oh yeah that internet thing too

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-27-2012, 10:51 PM
Dan loves him some corporate welfare.

http://www.bartcop.com/ford-walmart.png

Spider
11-27-2012, 11:00 PM
lol ...wal mart is evil no doubts there but King soopers safeway etc still reserve shelf space for local farmers and localy made products ..wal mart doesnt ...so when you go to wal mart for goods you are stabbing your neighbors in the back ...

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-27-2012, 11:08 PM
lol ...wal mart is evil no doubts there but King soopers safeway etc still reserve shelf space for local farmers and localy made products ..wal mart doesnt ...so when you go to wal mart for goods you are stabbing your neighbors in the back ...

Stabbing your neighbor in the back (and screwing him anyway you can) is the republican way.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-27-2012, 11:13 PM
Conservatives love to pay taxes...

http://www.bartcop.com/walmart-happy_n.jpg

lonestar
11-27-2012, 11:50 PM
I'm betting OCB. O Cartoon Boi has done it again.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-27-2012, 11:50 PM
lol ...wal mart is evil no doubts there but King soopers safeway etc still reserve shelf space for local farmers and localy made products ..wal mart doesnt ...so when you go to wal mart for goods you are stabbing your neighbors in the back ...

i never knew that but i think i seen melons from colorado at walmart ill check next time btw do the farmers market sell mangos , also apples should be from washington potatoes from idaho or colorado.
but evil is a wee bit over the top

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-27-2012, 11:58 PM
I'm betting OCB. O Cartoon Boi has done it again.

not quite a cartoon more like some sort of jpeg statement thing

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-28-2012, 12:04 AM
Conservatives love to pay taxes...

http://www.bartcop.com/walmart-happy_n.jpg
why are people working at walmart since they only pay what a buck a hour.
look i got a way to get rid of walmart.
are you sitting down ?
its a very radical solution this may shock you.
are you prepared for this i hope you are ?

DONT SHOP AT WALMART
DONT WORK AT WALMART
see now wasnt that very simple .
whats that you say
your message isnt getting out ?
well sign up on every forum .
go to every town city in the usa and tell people walmart is bad dont shop work there see simple . what would you do with out me insert snarky remark here _____________ doncha worry i can handle it.
*has any one seen my razor blades and my bottle of sleeping pills ? in case LABF says somethin bad to me and i go all emo and kill muh self *



* disclaimer for the stupid people here that was a joke do not go all hysterical nanners on me i promise you i will not kill myself once again for the mentally impaired i will not kill myself. i used to get alot of kill your self remarks on youtube from the upset children on youtube so any silly remarks from idiots here wont affect me

lonestar
11-28-2012, 12:11 AM
not quite a cartoon more like some sort of jpeg statement thing

Well until you quote the moron I'm guessing that he is.

I like a good political cartoon as much as anyone but, his are borderline fanatical. I do not mean it in a good way, just sicko.

Once I put the clown on IGGY my download times are cut in half.

Ahahahahahahaha

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-28-2012, 12:39 AM
Well until you quote the moron I'm guessing that he is.

I like a good political cartoon as much as anyone but, his are borderline fanatical. I do not mean it in a good way, just sicko.

Once I put the clown on IGGY my download times are cut in half.

Ahahahahahahaha

well now that i think of it yes he is millionaires dont hire people to work as in all of em but i ask you who owns walmart ,king soopers ,safeway , almost every business around. shure there is small businesses that aint millionaires . but most businesses are run by rich people. they hire people to hire people nationwide to over see state and then local and then store managers who then hire people to hire people then that person hires people to work at a store. therefore rich people ,granted not all of em hire people to work for them.
therefore i am right and again LABF gets the following

http://ragenz99.webs.com/face_palm_super.jpg


<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1ytCEuuW2_A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-28-2012, 12:42 AM
now i expect LABF and others to nit pick thru my post and find any mistakes i made then they can post the mistakes while they are at it did i forget a comma period did i misspell something

lonestar
11-28-2012, 06:34 AM
now i expect LABF and others to nit pick thru my post and find any mistakes i made then they can post the mistakes while they are at it did i forget a comma period did i misspell something

Yep the English professors, cartoon boi and grammar cops are probably to busy here to do their real jobs.

I have been a lot of forums and the ridicule here is more than all the rest combined.

I have often seen things misspelled or words used incorrectly. Knowing that even meaning it well, embarrassing someone publicly really does nothing but make them an enemy. So 99% of the time I send them a PM or rep message FYI it should be their instead of there.

Most of the time they are appreciative, but I find about 90% of our liberal morons give petty responses in return. So I have stopped sending them tips.

I know that all of my posts are no longer 100% grammatically correct, for many reasons, mostly because I do not give a rat ass anymore what these morons think. All of the other forums I have been on I take a lot more time in my postings, because they are/were quality forums.

I also find that using an iPad helps to exacerbate words being changed from time to time, yes I know the function can be turned off, but frankly Charlotte I don't give a damn.

Keep up the good fight against the DUMOCRATs ignorance. Just maybe some of the will grow up (mature) into responsible adulthood. :thumbs:

Requiem
11-28-2012, 07:15 AM
Your posts were just as ****ty and incoherent on the other forums as they are here. You are basically retarded.

Rohirrim
11-28-2012, 07:26 AM
now i expect LABF and others to nit pick thru my post and find any mistakes i made then they can post the mistakes while they are at it did i forget a comma period did i misspell something

No. You can continue to take pride in your ignorance.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-28-2012, 08:24 AM
DONT SHOP AT WALMART
DONT WORK AT WALMART


You and Lone Nut and the rest of the short bus passengers are completely missing the point: It's not about shopping at Wal-Mart - it's about your tax dollars subsidizing Wal-Mart's employees.

How can folks who are fundamentally opposed to "handouts" support such a thing?

So far, no wingnut has answered this question.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-28-2012, 08:35 AM
Keep up the good fight against the DUMOCRATs ignorance. Just maybe some of the will grow up (mature) into responsible adulthood. :thumbs:

L0L! :rofl:

Yep - Spammer Dan is an intellectual giant whose contributions to this forum have set a new high water mark for maturity...

...and Romney is going to win in a landslide! :yayaya:

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000970413/3538786_4015783e54_xlarge.jpeg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-28-2012, 08:59 AM
Grayson: Walmart is ‘the largest recipient of public aid in the country’

By Stephen C. Webster
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:46 EST

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/graysonturks-screen.jpg

Representative-elect Alan Grayson (D-FL) said Monday that he will put mega-retailer Walmart squarely in his sights during the next Congress for the company’s liberal use of public assistance programs to supplement their workers’ wages.

Speaking to Current TV host Cenk Uygur on Monday’s episode of “The Young Turks,” Grayson called Walmart “the largest recipient of public aid in the country,” saying their low wages force workers to take food stamps, housing assistance and Medicaid just to get by.

“The taxpayer pays for the earned income credit,” he said. “The taxpayer pays for Medicaid. The taxpayer pays for unemployment insurance when they cut hours down. And the taxpayer pays for other forms of public assistance like food stamps. I think the taxpayer is getting fed up of paying these things when, in fact, Walmart could give every employee its got, even the CEO, a 30 percent raise and still be profitable.”

He added that while the health care mandate in the Affordable Care Act will help, “that’s just the start.”

“In state after state after state, Walmart employees represent the largest group of Medicaid recipients, the largest group of food stamp recipients, and taxpayers shouldn’t have to bear that burden,” Grayson said. “It should be Walmart. So, we’re going to take that burden and put it where it belongs: on Walmart.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/27/grayson-walmart-is-the-largest-recipient-of-public-aid-in-the-country/

Requiem
11-28-2012, 09:13 AM
Am I the only one who finds it odd that Lonestar says he is a registered Democrat?

Odysseus
12-01-2012, 05:52 AM
Am I the only one who finds it odd that Lonestar says he is a registered Democrat?

Nope. Blue Dogs are Republicans in waiting.

cutthemdown
12-01-2012, 08:32 AM
Those employees would be unemployed if not for Walmart. So the amount of public aid would just go up if Walmart was targeted. Specifically what special govt tax breaks do they get, that other companies are not using. I am seriously asking i read all your posts but they don't get specfic on what loopholes Walmart uses to get public money or tax breaks to build and run these stores? You know tax breaks stores like Kmart or Target don't get? Because if playing field is level then you are just punishing Walmart for being big. You are saying their employees need the most food stamps, but is that because they have so many employees, or there % is higher then Target?


Lets say they gave more employees full time. Wouldn't that just mean they would then fire a bunch they no longer need. Hell I worked for Bank of America they kept me right at 32 hours for a long time to avoid giving me bennies. It happens all over. Is Walmart worst then other companies or just bigger?

gunns
12-01-2012, 05:28 PM
I fail to see the story here. The welfare-to-work tax credit has been in effect since Welfare Reform was implemented in the late 90's. I can guarantee you Walmart is not the only company to take up this opportunity nor are they the only one's to keep wages and benefits minimal. There are multiple companies, including Marriott. At least these people are working.

I, for one, would not pay the workers at Walmart any more money than they are getting. Having the worst customer service, per a survey of national companies, says it all. Yes maybe the company doesn't train them in this but it is something that is common sense. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know that when someone asks where something is located you don't just walk by and point.

lonestar
12-01-2012, 05:35 PM
I fail to see the story here. The welfare-to-work tax credit has been in effect since Welfare Reform was implemented in the late 90's. I can guarantee you Walmart is not the only company to take up this opportunity nor are they the only one's to keep wages and benefits minimal. There are multiple companies, including Marriott. At least these people are working.

I, for one, would not pay the workers at Walmart any more money than they are getting. Having the worst customer service, per a survey of national companies, says it all. Yes maybe the company doesn't train them in this but it is something that is common sense. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know that when someone asks where something is located you don't just walk by and point.

You are dead on about tax credits, and IF the government is offering them they would be plain stupid not to take advantage of them..

like so many of the progressives on here would not take free money.. ahahahahahaha

Our customer service here in ELP is not so good.. but almost all the other cities I have shopped in most of their employees bend over backwards for great service..

I actually refused to go into their older stores as they were to cramped, but as they built the superstores there seems to have loads more space in them..

The service is still not at great level in town but that probably has more to do with not being Hispanic than everything else..

gunns
12-01-2012, 05:47 PM
You are dead on about tax credits, and IF the government is offering them they would be plain stupid not to take advantage of them..

like so many of the progressives on here would not take free money.. ahahahahahaha

Our customer service here in ELP is not so good.. but almost all the other cities I have shopped in most of their employees bend over backwards for great service..

I actually refused to go into their older stores as they were to cramped, but as they built the superstores there seems to have loads more space in them..

The service is still not at great level in town but that probably has more to do with not being Hispanic than everything else..

I have never been in a Walmart where there was ANY customer service. I'm not sure if your reference to the Hispanics is that is the majority that work in your stores but in ours it is an equal part of nationalities, including white Americans. And they are all equally oblivious.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
12-01-2012, 05:51 PM
say why dont they make a business based on the denver broncos and they sell all sort of merchandise bronco related.

lonestar
12-01-2012, 05:51 PM
I have never been in a Walmart where there was ANY customer service. I'm not sure if your reference to the Hispanics is that is the majority that work in your stores but in ours it is an equal part of nationalities, including white Americans. And they are all equally oblivious.

where I live the work force is about 85% hispanic as the shoppers are about 95%..

The one closest to my new home is just 6 miles from Mexico port of entry so we get loads of Mexicans coming over to shop.. they have better pricing here than in Juarez walmarts...

now going up the OKC or into Kansas and Nebraska the folks there are super helpful..

chadta
12-02-2012, 05:08 AM
You are dead on about tax credits, and IF the government is offering them they would be plain stupid not to take advantage of them..

like so many of the progressives on here would not take free money.. ahahahahahaha



30 years from now we will be having this same discussion about a big solar company, one that is getting most of its money from tax credits, and the liberals will all complain about it then too. Get the friggin government out of business, get it back to protecting borders, at home not over seas, and doing things its supposed to do and not everything else.

bowtown
12-02-2012, 08:44 AM
I have often seen things misspelled or words used incorrectly. Knowing that even meaning it well, embarrassing someone publicly really does nothing but make them an enemy. So 99% of the time I send them a PM or rep message FYI it should be their instead of there.

Most of the time they are appreciative, but I find about 90% of our liberal morons give petty responses in return. So I have stopped sending them tips.

I know that all of my posts are no longer 100% grammatically correct, for many reasons, mostly because I do not give a rat ass anymore what these morons think. All of the other forums I have been on I take a lot more time in my postings, because they are/were quality forums.

I also find that using an iPad helps to exacerbate words being changed from time to time, yes I know the function can be turned off, but frankly Charlotte I don't give a damn.

Keep up the good fight against the DUMOCRATs ignorance. Just maybe some of the will grow up (mature) into responsible adulthood. :thumbs:

There's a difference between typos and bad grammar and being so completely incoherent that your points--good or bad--are unreadable.